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Sprotyrover

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£46 Billion
« on July 15, 2024, 05:55:46 pm by Sprotyrover »
That’s the latest projected cost to complete Hinckley C there is no completion date in site and the re have been long delay’s wherever this type of reactor has/is being Installed,China , France and Finland. EDF are looking for a further £5 Billion of investment!
The project is vast with 12,000 workers on site. They have taken over Pontins old Holiday camp
At Weston Super Mare and they also have built a Small town centre on the site. Ed Milliband will be scrutinising the Papert as Sewell C is likely to be put on the Back Burner .
Source Sunday times.



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Bristol Red Rover

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Re: £46 Billion
« Reply #1 on July 15, 2024, 10:24:36 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
Obscene. There's a lot who have scammed on this that should go for a min of 5 years in normal hardcore prison and have their assets siezed. But thankfully we live in a democracy whereby the people don't want that, or at least the puppets they elect don't.

albie

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Re: £46 Billion
« Reply #2 on July 19, 2024, 09:37:30 am by albie »
As soon as you hear folk bleating on about "baseload", you know they are ignorant:
Steve Holliday CEO National Grid: baseload is outdated
https://energypost.eu/interview-steve-holliday-ceo-national-grid-idea-large-power-stations-baseload-power-outdated/

Hincley was supposed to be open by 2017, at a fraction of the cost.
The business case is shot to pieces, and the sooner Reeves and Starmer realise new nuclear is a money pit the better.

SydneyRover

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Re: £46 Billion
« Reply #3 on July 19, 2024, 09:52:07 am by SydneyRover »
Pontins used to be good but they have a lousy reputation atm

Mike_F

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Re: £46 Billion
« Reply #4 on July 19, 2024, 10:06:00 am by Mike_F »
I don't necessarily think new nuclear is a money pit, it's the now outdated big reactor tech that is onerously expensive.

The future of nuclear is in the smaller reactors developed by the likes of Rolls Royce. Wish I'd held onto the shares I bought at 70p instead of taking a 50% profit!

Sprotyrover

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Re: £46 Billion
« Reply #5 on July 19, 2024, 10:32:32 am by Sprotyrover »
Albie has some doubts about small nuclear!

albie

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Re: £46 Billion
« Reply #6 on July 20, 2024, 12:56:27 pm by albie »
Nuclear  power has always been about the military need for resource materials;
https://renewextraweekly.blogspot.com/2024/04/civil-and-military-nuclear-mutuality.html

Small Modular Nuclear is a continuation of that trend.
It will never be viable without state support, and will need subsidy for construction and decommisioning.

That is the context......as a power source, we have cheaper solutions with shorter timescales and no big waste disposal issues.
Why would you go for nukes if you want to decarbonise quickly, when Hinkley shows it will take 20 years and come in way over budget?

big fat yorkshire pudding

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Re: £46 Billion
« Reply #7 on July 20, 2024, 01:51:24 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
I don't necessarily think new nuclear is a money pit, it's the now outdated big reactor tech that is onerously expensive.

The future of nuclear is in the smaller reactors developed by the likes of Rolls Royce. Wish I'd held onto the shares I bought at 70p instead of taking a 50% profit!

Still got mine, 477% they're up (sorry). £5 and I'm out, I wish I'd gone in much bigger but then had they not gone up....  Small tech reactors are a good idea and would go on for decades.

albie

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Re: £46 Billion
« Reply #8 on July 20, 2024, 04:56:20 pm by albie »
BFYP,

You will not find an energy economist to agree with you.

The best person to speak to this is Prof Steven Thomas.
Here is his view based on many years experience of the industry;
https://www.sgr.org.uk/resources/small-modular-reactors-last-chance-saloon-nuclear-industry

SMD will not help with the rise in nuclear costs coming at the same time as a big fall in water, wind, sun and grid scale battery costs.

It is a massive black hole for cash to move from the public accounts to de-risk private sector investors, and will contribute very little to electricity supply to a reasonable timeline.

albie

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Re: £46 Billion
« Reply #9 on July 22, 2024, 12:44:04 pm by albie »
Oh dear me;
Safety warnings as Torness nuclear plant sees increase in cracks | The National
https://www.thenational.scot/news/24465709.safety-warnings-torness-nuclear-plant-sees-increase-cracks/?ref=twtrec

Time to call a halt I think!

 

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