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SydneyRover

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Re: Southport
« Reply #720 on August 08, 2024, 11:01:22 pm by SydneyRover »
So a relatively quiet night on the streets last night, thankfully..

And silence from the apologists for the rioters.




And no apologies from those that incited the riots, look at the comment immediately above. My advice sprot would be to delete everything on your phone and any hard drives, take them out into the road and run the car over them a couple of times.
That’s one hell of an accusation Syd, kindly evidence
How I have incited a riot? The only racist comments on here were made by you by the way!

You just don't get it do you, a large body of people disseminated false information across the internet which gave complete and utter fools legitimacy to attack people and property and you and your posts were part of that.

If you can't see that then I can't help you so collate all your emails where you posted false names and said the lad from Southport isn't Welsh and email them to this address:

https://www.southyorkshire.police.uk/

Get their opinion

Just say the word and I can do it for you.
Why don’t you Syd and mention your Racist comment to them too now put up or shut up!
In R v Rogers (2007) 2 W.L.R. 280, the defendant was involved in an altercation with three Spanish women during the course of which he called them "bloody foreigners" and told them to "go back to your own country". The House of Lords, in upholding the defendant's conviction, held that the definition of a racial group clearly went beyond groups defined by their colour, race, or ethnic origin. It encompassed both nationality (including citizenship) and national origins.

Just do it



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SydneyRover

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Re: Southport
« Reply #721 on August 08, 2024, 11:36:29 pm by SydneyRover »
''Man, 69, given prison sentence for violent disorder in English riots
Retired welder William Morgan thought to be oldest person charged as a result of recent unrest''

''William Nelson Morgan, 69, was sentenced to 32 months in prison, having previously admitted violent disorder and carrying a cosh during a riot on County Road in Liverpool on Saturday.

Liverpool crown court was told he had been arrested when he refused to move as police pushed back a crowd of rioters. The court was shown body-worn-camera footage of Morgan being arrested. In it he says: “I’m English, I’m 70, all right – leave me alone!” He can also be seen to shout: “Get off me, I’m f**king 70, you pricks.”

The police officer attempting to arrest him replies: “Then why are you here? Why are you at a f**king riot, man?”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/08/pensioner-69-given-prison-sentence-for-violent-disorder-in-english-riots

It's hard to know what to say about some of this sort of shit.

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Re: Southport
« Reply #722 on August 08, 2024, 11:51:35 pm by danumdon »
''Man, 69, given prison sentence for violent disorder in English riots
Retired welder William Morgan thought to be oldest person charged as a result of recent unrest''

''William Nelson Morgan, 69, was sentenced to 32 months in prison, having previously admitted violent disorder and carrying a cosh during a riot on County Road in Liverpool on Saturday.

Liverpool crown court was told he had been arrested when he refused to move as police pushed back a crowd of rioters. The court was shown body-worn-camera footage of Morgan being arrested. In it he says: “I’m English, I’m 70, all right – leave me alone!” He can also be seen to shout: “Get off me, I’m f**king 70, you pricks.”

The police officer attempting to arrest him replies: “Then why are you here? Why are you at a f**king riot, man?”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/08/pensioner-69-given-prison-sentence-for-violent-disorder-in-english-riots

It's hard to know what to say about some of this sort of shit.

If this is now the tarrif thats getting handed out for this type of crime then Starmer has a bloody great problem. He will not have the prison space to lock up the thousands that are going to require it.

Going on this fella's case, some are going to be getting life?

But, if you're stupid enough to be hanging around a riot scene then what did he expect?

SydneyRover

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Re: Southport
« Reply #723 on August 09, 2024, 12:09:23 am by SydneyRover »
Still manage to find a few weasel words for Starmer, it won't change the election result.

Get used to it, five more years and then some.

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Re: Southport
« Reply #724 on August 09, 2024, 07:42:55 am by Axholme Lion »
It’s not remotely unusual for charging decisions to take some time. Of course in this day and age everyone expects everything right away or is led to believe that information is being withheld by those with sinister motives. But we never know and nor should we be privy to everything that goes on behind the scenes. It’s only the very babyish people (of which we clearly have some on here) that draw all kinds of invented conclusions to enable them to go yelping out the latest hashtags and straplines on repeat.

Like the rioter from a week ago who has been charged, convicted and sentenced within about 3 days? He deserved it of course. But how did they manage to do that so quickly?! Very puzzling....

Almost as if the Courts can stay open 24/7 to tackle the "far right". But other demographics must await due process. Strange.
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IDM

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Re: Southport
« Reply #725 on August 09, 2024, 09:06:11 am by IDM »
That was a mindless comment and the bloke should be punished in the same way as the online morons encouraging the riots.


Jonathan

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Re: Southport
« Reply #726 on August 09, 2024, 03:48:53 pm by Jonathan »
The Labour councillor has now been charged.

Dealt with swiftly in 24 hours since it came to light. Suspended, arrested, charged.

Tony Soprano of course had been brainwashed into believing none of this could or would happen.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2024, 03:51:06 pm by Jonathan »

bpoolrover

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Re: Southport
« Reply #727 on August 09, 2024, 04:54:09 pm by bpoolrover »
The Labour councillor has now been charged.

Dealt with swiftly in 24 hours since it came to light. Suspended, arrested, charged.

Tony Soprano of course had been brainwashed into believing none of this could or would happen.
the manchester aiport ones have not thou, and of course all the ones wandering the streets with bats and knives, all should be dealt with the same

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Southport
« Reply #728 on August 09, 2024, 04:57:04 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
The Labour councillor has now been charged.

Dealt with swiftly in 24 hours since it came to light. Suspended, arrested, charged.

Tony Soprano of course had been brainwashed into believing none of this could or would happen.
the manchester aiport ones have not thou, and of course all the ones wandering the streets with bats and knives, all should be dealt with the same

And as I said last night, not one of the people who tried to commit mass murder by burning down full hotels had yet been sentenced. I'm really not sure what your point is.

Meanwhile, here's someone who HAS been sentenced, who clearly had deep and principled concerns and was frustrated that the rest of us weren't taking them seriously.

https://x.com/TheNorthernEcho/status/1821915577260065008
« Last Edit: August 09, 2024, 08:00:22 pm by BillyStubbsTears »

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Southport
« Reply #729 on August 09, 2024, 09:50:37 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Manchester airport been locked up for 3 years yet? Considering a bloke stood there in Liverpool and got just short of 3 years I imagine those at the airport will be locked up for 7-8 years now.

How many times does this need to be answered?

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Southport
« Reply #730 on August 09, 2024, 10:59:06 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Surprised that no-one has mentioned that Sameer Ali and Adnan Ghafoor have been sentenced to 20 and 30 months for violent behaviour in counter "protests". Almost like there isn't two tier legal action after all?

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Southport
« Reply #731 on August 09, 2024, 11:16:26 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Surprised that no-one has mentioned that Sameer Ali and Adnan Ghafoor have been sentenced to 20 and 30 months for violent behaviour in counter "protests". Almost like there isn't two tier legal action after all?

Yeah but what's happening with the people from Manchester Airport?!

Bristol Red Rover

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Re: Southport
« Reply #732 on August 09, 2024, 11:50:55 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
Surprised that no-one has mentioned that Sameer Ali and Adnan Ghafoor have been sentenced to 20 and 30 months for violent behaviour in counter "protests". Almost like there isn't two tier legal action after all?

Yeah but what's happening with the people from Manchester Airport?!
I imagine that's delayed and complex due to the police actions.

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Re: Southport
« Reply #733 on August 09, 2024, 11:53:01 pm by Bentley Bullet »
They remain on police bail after several incidents at Manchester Airport last month. The men were previously arrested on suspicion (for f**ks sake) of affray and assault after an altercation at the airport.

Bristol Red Rover

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Re: Southport
« Reply #734 on August 09, 2024, 11:56:24 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
Kinda sad really that the anti immigration protesters direct all that anger and frustration about their situations onto immigration rather than the system that abuses them, All that energy put out that ends up like pissing in the wind, and they are unable to see that.

SydneyRover

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Re: Southport
« Reply #735 on August 10, 2024, 01:32:22 am by SydneyRover »
They remain on police bail after several incidents at Manchester Airport last month. The men were previously arrested on suspicion (for f**ks sake) of affray and assault after an altercation at the airport.

suspicion is only a word used until anything has been proven ffs how old are you?

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Southport
« Reply #736 on August 10, 2024, 08:29:40 am by Bentley Bullet »
They remain on police bail after several incidents at Manchester Airport last month. The men were previously arrested on suspicion (for f**ks sake) of affray and assault after an altercation at the airport.
It doesn't matter if they are Muslim or not they committed a very serious assault on the police and the culprits are still walking the streets while other people have been locked up for much less serious assaults on the police since that incident.


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Re: Southport
« Reply #737 on August 10, 2024, 09:53:09 am by drfchound »
They remain on police bail after several incidents at Manchester Airport last month. The men were previously arrested on suspicion (for f**ks sake) of affray and assault after an altercation at the airport.
It doesn't matter if they are Muslim or not they committed a very serious assault on the police and the culprits are still walking the streets while other people have been locked up for much less serious assaults on the police since that incident.

A slight deviation from the topic here, so apologies.
I saw one of those police in action programmes last night and a cop with a dog chased and caught a driver who had run away from his car after being driving recklessly.
During what ensued the runaway hit the cop multiple times as well as trying to bite an ear off the police dog and was eventually arrested on SUSPICION of assaulting a police officer.
Despite all the evidence being recorded on a body cam and shown in court, the driver was found to be not guilty of assaulting the police officer.
Incredible, how does that work?

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Re: Southport
« Reply #738 on August 10, 2024, 11:28:05 am by tyke1962 »
The thing is, social media has a very big effect on normalising and amplifying the far right narrative. Yaxley-Lennon, Lawrence Fox, the relentless output from GB News and now that man-child Musk, all have very high profiles. All supported by literally an army of Kremlin bots, very skillfully pushing the line into people's feeds.

So it can look as though the opinions of the far right are widely shared and believed in the country.

They aren't. Last night showed that at 24 hours notice, tens of thousands of people up and down the country will peacefully demonstrate their opposition to far right violence. That's the take-home of last night.


Nice to see you've got all your opponents lined up in a convenient way Billy .

Perhaps you could walk us through this article by Owen Jones in today's Graun .

Just for the record Owen Jones  is somebody on the left I've little time for along with the other Pro Palestinian fruitcakes .

The Tories have created an Islamophobic cesspit – but Labour must share some of the guilt | Owen Jones https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/10/tories-islamophobic-labour-tony-blair-muslim-members?CMP=share_btn_url

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Southport
« Reply #739 on August 10, 2024, 11:52:14 am by Bentley Bullet »
They remain on police bail after several incidents at Manchester Airport last month. The men were previously arrested on suspicion (for f**ks sake) of affray and assault after an altercation at the airport.
It doesn't matter if they are Muslim or not they committed a very serious assault on the police and the culprits are still walking the streets while other people have been locked up for much less serious assaults on the police since that incident.
Correction.

It doesn't shouldn't matter if they are Muslim or not they committed a very serious assault on the police and the culprits are still walking the streets while other people have been locked up for much less serious assaults on the police since that incident.



SydneyRover

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Re: Southport
« Reply #740 on August 10, 2024, 12:10:55 pm by SydneyRover »
I would hope you're not inciting people to take the law into their own hands with your posts bb?

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Southport
« Reply #741 on August 10, 2024, 12:14:08 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
The thing is, social media has a very big effect on normalising and amplifying the far right narrative. Yaxley-Lennon, Lawrence Fox, the relentless output from GB News and now that man-child Musk, all have very high profiles. All supported by literally an army of Kremlin bots, very skillfully pushing the line into people's feeds.

So it can look as though the opinions of the far right are widely shared and believed in the country.

They aren't. Last night showed that at 24 hours notice, tens of thousands of people up and down the country will peacefully demonstrate their opposition to far right violence. That's the take-home of last night.


Nice to see you've got all your opponents lined up in a convenient way Billy .

Perhaps you could walk us through this article by Owen Jones in today's Graun .

Just for the record Owen Jones  is somebody on the left I've little time for along with the other Pro Palestinian fruitcakes .

The Tories have created an Islamophobic cesspit – but Labour must share some of the guilt | Owen Jones https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/10/tories-islamophobic-labour-tony-blair-muslim-members?CMP=share_btn_url


Good contribution Tyke.

From your usual file of "I'm going to reply to you by ignoring what you say and instead linking to someone who thinks Labour are to blame" posts.

tyke1962

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Re: Southport
« Reply #742 on August 10, 2024, 12:43:24 pm by tyke1962 »
The thing is, social media has a very big effect on normalising and amplifying the far right narrative. Yaxley-Lennon, Lawrence Fox, the relentless output from GB News and now that man-child Musk, all have very high profiles. All supported by literally an army of Kremlin bots, very skillfully pushing the line into people's feeds.

So it can look as though the opinions of the far right are widely shared and believed in the country.

They aren't. Last night showed that at 24 hours notice, tens of thousands of people up and down the country will peacefully demonstrate their opposition to far right violence. That's the take-home of last night.


Nice to see you've got all your opponents lined up in a convenient way Billy .

Perhaps you could walk us through this article by Owen Jones in today's Graun .

Just for the record Owen Jones  is somebody on the left I've little time for along with the other Pro Palestinian fruitcakes .

The Tories have created an Islamophobic cesspit – but Labour must share some of the guilt | Owen Jones https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/10/tories-islamophobic-labour-tony-blair-muslim-members?CMP=share_btn_url


Good contribution Tyke.

From your usual file of "I'm going to reply to you by ignoring what you say and instead linking to someone who thinks Labour are to blame" posts.

I'm always happy to challenge your preferred convenient labelling narrative Billy and will continue to do so .

IDM

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Re: Southport
« Reply #743 on August 10, 2024, 01:37:20 pm by IDM »
“Suspicion” is just formal legalese which is used until someone is found guilty in court, even when their guilt is bleeding obvious in the first place..

Noting more, nothing less..

bpoolrover

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Re: Southport
« Reply #744 on August 10, 2024, 06:37:59 pm by bpoolrover »
Alot of trouble in croyden today, lots of things being thrown at police and hardly a mention on bbc, just makes me wonder why?

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Southport
« Reply #745 on August 10, 2024, 07:01:54 pm by Bentley Bullet »
“Suspicion” is just formal legalese which is used until someone is found guilty in court, even when their guilt is bleeding obvious in the first place..

Noting more, nothing less..
Suspicion is the act or an instance of suspecting something wrong without proof or on slight evidence.

I was being sarcastic about the interpretation of the word in that particular instance.

Nothing more, nothing less..

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Re: Southport
« Reply #746 on August 10, 2024, 08:01:59 pm by Colemans Left Hook »
The thing is, social media has a very big effect on normalising and amplifying the far right narrative. Yaxley-Lennon, Lawrence Fox, the relentless output from GB News and now that man-child Musk, all have very high profiles. All supported by literally an army of Kremlin bots, very skillfully pushing the line into people's feeds.

So it can look as though the opinions of the far right are widely shared and believed in the country.

They aren't. Last night showed that at 24 hours notice, tens of thousands of people up and down the country will peacefully demonstrate their opposition to far right violence. That's the take-home of last night.


Nice to see you've got all your opponents lined up in a convenient way Billy .

Perhaps you could walk us through this article by Owen Jones in today's Graun .

Just for the record Owen Jones  is somebody on the left I've little time for along with the other Pro Palestinian fruitcakes .

The Tories have created an Islamophobic cesspit – but Labour must share some of the guilt | Owen Jones https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/10/tories-islamophobic-labour-tony-blair-muslim-members?CMP=share_btn_url


Good contribution Tyke.

From your usual file of "I'm going to reply to you by ignoring what you say and instead linking to someone who thinks Labour are to blame" posts.

Re: Surely it's time to close the thread entitled Southport

time to take a break  for your mental health

3 posts in a row isn't healthy

SydneyRover

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Re: Southport
« Reply #747 on August 11, 2024, 05:03:01 am by SydneyRover »
“Suspicion” is just formal legalese which is used until someone is found guilty in court, even when their guilt is bleeding obvious in the first place..

Noting more, nothing less..
Suspicion is the act or an instance of suspecting something wrong without proof or on slight evidence.

I was being sarcastic about the interpretation of the word in that particular instance.

Nothing more, nothing less..

you sounded serious with your explanations, comments #746 & #749 not a whoosh in sight!

selby

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Re: Southport
« Reply #748 on August 11, 2024, 10:44:51 pm by selby »
 Check the directors of the well organised lefty marches  who provide the placards and flags, it seems some prominent labour MPs and Union representative would have a nice little financial  interest in the weekend marches in London carrying on as a nice little earner on the side.
 Its a fifth column that has infiltrated government organisations and education and the judiciary, and are fixated on control the lessons of the soviet era and communism, and a lot of soft sods are falling for it.
  The upshot will be that they will drive opposition underground just like it did in Eastern Europe and build from there.

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Re: Southport
« Reply #749 on August 12, 2024, 02:09:52 am by SydneyRover »
Check the directors of the well organised lefty marches  who provide the placards and flags, it seems some prominent labour MPs and Union representative would have a nice little financial  interest in the weekend marches in London carrying on as a nice little earner on the side.
 Its a fifth column that has infiltrated government organisations and education and the judiciary, and are fixated on control the lessons of the soviet era and communism, and a lot of soft sods are falling for it.
  The upshot will be that they will drive opposition underground just like it did in Eastern Europe and build from there.

Not wrong there selby

 

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