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BillyStubbsTears

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Worryingly bad
« on August 17, 2024, 05:15:55 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
That was seriously cack. Back to first half of last season performances. A strong, fast press and we fall apart.

I think we are going to be relying on Kelly being the next Craig.



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ForsolongaRover

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #1 on August 17, 2024, 05:27:04 pm by ForsolongaRover »
Anyone know if we'd already drawn Everton in the cup last time we played at Newport? Minds elsewhere?

That would be a terrible indictment on the professionalism of the players and the management. It’s only the League Cup for heavens sake.

ChrisBx

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #2 on August 17, 2024, 05:37:08 pm by ChrisBx »
Piss poor capitulation in the second half. Some very bad individual performances too. Let's hope we get back on track quickly.

pib

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #3 on August 17, 2024, 05:42:02 pm by pib »
Christ. Bit of an overreaction. Poor second half but let’s not get carried away.

jmt23

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #4 on August 17, 2024, 05:42:30 pm by jmt23 »
No, we were not at it! They were a big physical and fast team, and that highlighted how far some of the lads were off it. Passes were not strong enough, tackles were half hearted and we dithered on the ball.
We were not as poor as last year though, we had chances, and made the wrong choices - I am certain a few will get a shellacking from Grant.
There was an attitude of” do you know who we are” today, that needs stamping out, and replacing with the hard graft we showed at the back end of last season.

dickos1

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #5 on August 17, 2024, 05:45:17 pm by dickos1 »
I think it’s a bit of an overreaction, new team, new season.
Stockport got 5 points from their first 6 games last season and then won the title

PDX_Rover

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #6 on August 17, 2024, 05:47:07 pm by PDX_Rover »
Not worrying too much about this. I think it’s good that some weaknesses were highlighted so they can be nipped in the bud.

Take the loss and lessons from it

Goole Rover

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #7 on August 17, 2024, 05:58:21 pm by Goole Rover »
Not worrying too much about this. I think it’s good that some weaknesses were highlighted so they can be nipped in the bud.

Take the loss and lessons from it

A sensible post.

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #8 on August 17, 2024, 05:59:04 pm by Copps is Magic »
Long old season. But there are structural imbalances in the team that you just can't ignore. Fullbacks that are prone to letting players drift by them. Anderson and Wood who are fine if everything is in front of them (well Anderson completely missed the header for the 3rd goal but usually fine) but struggle in other circumstances and then, today, three central midfielders (Broadbent, Bailey and Clifton) who are all steddy eddies but rarely take the game by the scruff of the neck.

Anyway, what surprised me was our attacking players, who, after their final two goals, kind of dissapeared. Alot of overhit crosses, miss touches and  a lack of urgency which I don't think McCann will be happy with.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2024, 06:02:36 pm by Copps is Magic »

Campsall rover

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #9 on August 17, 2024, 06:11:32 pm by Campsall rover »
Back down to Earth after that.
I am making no more score predictions this season as it did bite me on the bum.

Just a bad day at the office
We go again next week. Expect a big reaction to that defeat.

Lesonthewest

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #10 on August 17, 2024, 06:24:30 pm by Lesonthewest »
No, we were not at it! They were a big physical and fast team, and that highlighted how far some of the lads were off it. Passes were not strong enough, tackles were half hearted and we dithered on the ball.
We were not as poor as last year though, we had chances, and made the wrong choices - I am certain a few will get a shellacking from Grant.
There was an attitude of” do you know who we are” today, that needs stamping out, and replacing with the hard graft we showed at the back end of last season.

The last paragraph. He needs to play hardball with the players from the off, that 2nd half was nowhere near good enough, against a side virtually just put together. They got in our faces & we fell apart, remeniscent of the past few seasons. Kelly & Fleming surely have to start next week.

Chris Black come back

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #11 on August 17, 2024, 06:34:37 pm by Chris Black come back »
Back down to Earth after that.
I am making no more score predictions this season as it did bite me on the bum.

Just a bad day at the office
We go again next week. Expect a big reaction to that defeat.

Yes, you predicted a 3-0 win and we lost 3-1. Almost exactly 100pc wrong.

duggiesmyhero

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #12 on August 17, 2024, 06:54:15 pm by duggiesmyhero »
Massive over reaction from some supporters on here, we huffed and puffed but looked 2nd best all over the pitch. Could still be playing now and fail to score. It gives McCann plenty to work on this week, personally I'd drop Anderson for Oluwo as well. If anybody expected us to walk this league think again

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #13 on August 17, 2024, 06:58:39 pm by GazLaz »
That was seriously cack. Back to first half of last season performances. A strong, fast press and we fall apart.

I think we are going to be relying on Kelly being the next Craig.


I’m not too worried. Tuesday, Saturday away games are never easy. Especially first week of the season. I know we made changes but it’s the disruption in prep, travel, late night etc that have the impact. They scored a couple of decent goals but weren’t great.


We will win next week.

pib

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #14 on August 17, 2024, 07:04:52 pm by pib »
We gave away some silly goals and the heads went a bit when the game state changed, but it wasn’t as bad overall as some are making out. First half was ok. Improvements to be had for sure but not the time to panic.

Misery loves company though so the reaction from some isn’t surprising.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #15 on August 17, 2024, 07:46:38 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I'm not going overboard about this, but I think it's legitimate to have some concerns.

Don't forget how absolutely key the three January loans were to last season's miracle. It's perfectly reasonable to wonder if we have replaced them with players of a similar standard.

McCann seems to rate Broadbent in the Craig role, but I am sceptical. Today was very reminiscent of what we looked like for 30 matches last season until we found a midfielder who could take on the press and make it irrelevant.

Kelly showed some signs of being able to do that in his cameo today. We're going to need someone to do it.

dickos1

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #16 on August 17, 2024, 07:54:38 pm by dickos1 »
Close, westbrooke, Kelly will all comfortably do what craig did with the ball around the press.
Off the ball I’m not sure but we don’t need to worry about players being good enough to take the ball under pressure when we have those 3

Lesonthewest

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #17 on August 17, 2024, 08:01:55 pm by Lesonthewest »
I haven't read 1 post that's been an overeaction, not one. I have enjoyed reading posters thoughts on on the game & how we played though. I reckon that's what a forum is about.

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #18 on August 17, 2024, 08:04:17 pm by RoversInSpain »
Play it cool until game 34, then go for it.
Crikey I had hoped we’d seen the last of weak, boys v men  performances like that.
Hey ho, let’s get it going for Morcambe. Another club we still owe a beating.

PDX_Rover

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #19 on August 17, 2024, 08:15:04 pm by PDX_Rover »
I thought Broadbent was good first half. He and Clifton were pretty solid. Lots to work on though because we got bullied second half. Sbarra against their hefty lads was a big ask.

Thought the ref was inconsistent. Not blaming him for the loss but Wildig went through the back of Bailey and it was a clear yellow. Whitmore was another repeat offender. And Bailey was booked for a much lesser crime.






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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #20 on August 17, 2024, 08:31:33 pm by Dutch Uncle »
I thought Broadbent was good first half. He and Clifton were pretty solid. Lots to work on though because we got bullied second half. Sbarra against their hefty lads was a big ask.

Thought the ref was inconsistent. Not blaming him for the loss but Wildig went through the back of Bailey and it was a clear yellow. Whitmore was another repeat offender. And Bailey was booked for a much lesser crime.

Not looking for excuses, but it looked like a foul on Moly for their first goal and the third looked offside to me, although the defending wasn't great. Their 2nd goal was a great hit. The stats say we had 21 shots to their 12, of which 8 on target to their 5. There will be days when things go our way and days when they don't.

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #21 on August 17, 2024, 08:33:40 pm by graingrover »
There was no midfield  General  ,which is what Craig developed into though we have in the squad Close and Westbrooke who have the experience and technique to do that .The only player who gave of his best today was  Owen Bailey Mr Reliable .I would not have headed the thread Worryingly Bad BST

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #22 on August 17, 2024, 08:39:18 pm by jmt23 »
As much as those stats say we were unlucky, Newport were better than us today, in a few areas. As I said before poor choices cost us today.

Grant was keen to state on Tuesday he wanted to put last years Newport performance right. I think he will be a little annoyed at the team and maybe himself.
I thought Owen was poor today, great goal, but poor overall, almost a nothing performance from him. Midfield needs some work by Grant.

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #23 on August 17, 2024, 08:39:36 pm by StocksArmy »
It’s 1 defeat. We move on
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mushRTID

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #24 on August 17, 2024, 08:46:09 pm by mushRTID »
We’ve been poor for one half of football.
We haven’t been destroyed for 90 mins, we haven’t had players or management looking clueless or not interested…we’ve just been poor for one half.

I don’t think it was worryingly bad.

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #25 on August 17, 2024, 08:51:29 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
If we were consistent every week these players would be at higher levels, we shouldn't forget that.

Of course we need to now win next week and get back at it.  We're still miles ahead of this time last year.

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #26 on August 17, 2024, 08:52:47 pm by Donnywolf »
Christ. Bit of an overreaction. Poor second half but let’s not get carried away.


Agree let's not over react either way

We are not going to be Invincibles now and I never thought we would but possibly ( almost certainly ) GM and his Staff will have learnt a lot today and demand and get improvement from this group of players

I trust them to do that

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #27 on August 17, 2024, 09:12:08 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Losing possession in poor areas of the pitch. Moly should not be trying to run with the ball in that area.  Managing the game away from home is different and you have to do whatever it takes to kill the home teams momentum. Stop the game, boot it into row Z etc.

Yes, we looked a bit weak in the tackle whereas Tuesday we looked strong. Their second strike was a corker mind.

Third was a shocker from our back line.

As others have said, learn from the mistakes and don't forget about the good stuff. Maybe a couple of players need reminding it's a team game and they can't always be the match winners.

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #28 on August 17, 2024, 09:20:40 pm by danumdon »
Worryingly bad is a little melodramatic i'd say.

Early season game, new players to bed in, some players been given slightly different roles to perform.

We were second best for most of this game and it's a wakeup call for the squad. For all their running and bluster we gave them 2 easy goals through some slack play, the other goal was good.

If anyone thought we could just steamroller this league as a carry over from last season then its just been blown away, and that includes some of the players who gave a poor performance from what we know they can do.

Best get it out of the way early, the squad now know that if they are not on it then this is the type of result to expect.

Something for the squad as well as GM to think about, some work to do this next week.

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Re: Worryingly bad
« Reply #29 on August 17, 2024, 10:01:39 pm by Campsall rover »
Back down to Earth after that.
I am making no more score predictions this season as it did bite me on the bum.

Just a bad day at the office
We go again next week. Expect a big reaction to that defeat.

Yes, you predicted a 3-0 win and we lost 3-1. Almost exactly 100pc wrong.
Did you think we would lose 3-1 then?

 

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