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Ryaldinhio

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Jamie Sterry
« on September 03, 2024, 10:44:51 pm by Ryaldinhio »
Yet another goal at back post from an un marked player while he walks back, same as last week, week before, and most of last season.

Constant liability.

Nixon over Sterry every day of the week for me, atleast he is a defender with work ethic.



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RobTheRover

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #1 on September 03, 2024, 11:22:09 pm by RobTheRover »
Broadbent's man. He got caught ball watching.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #2 on September 03, 2024, 11:27:20 pm by Alan Southstand »
Agreed Rob, far too passive!

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #3 on September 03, 2024, 11:32:44 pm by drfchound »
Also no one has mentioned how Straughan-Brown let his man go past and away from him to get the shot away that Lawlor saved late on.
SSB did well otherwise but if that had been Sterry or maybe Broadbent then some people would have made a big deal out of it.
Players make mistakes.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #4 on September 04, 2024, 12:43:35 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
Again, there was another example of being a bit too casual after the break.

Agree, the free man was more Broadbents than Sterry, who was retreating from a more advanced position, although he didn't exactly bust a gut to get back in position.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #5 on September 04, 2024, 07:38:02 am by graingrover »
Sterry played well goîg forward and went  past defenders with speed on the break( in his defense) .

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #6 on September 04, 2024, 08:01:59 am by Fal »
With the way we play we are always going to get caught out in those positions as Grant wants both fullbacks to push up.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #7 on September 04, 2024, 08:19:03 am by Goole Rover »
With the way we play we are always going to get caught out in those positions as Grant wants both fullbacks to push up.
Yes I’ve thought that and wondered why hasn’t Grant done something about it. It’s fact that he’s been caught out a number of times so as a player why doesn’t he do something about.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #8 on September 04, 2024, 08:30:23 am by donnievic »
Everyone forgets the good things his does though like cutting passes out and getting infront of attacker to shield it back to lawlor late in 1st half,he just seem this seasons scape goat by the look of things,no mention of McGrath f**king up at the back to give them a one on one chance to go in front but if been sterry it would of been all over here with fans wanting them linched

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #9 on September 04, 2024, 08:44:44 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
There's a balance to be had with any player. Sterry is still the better choice for his forward play, generally raiding forward with his head up  and making good choices re passes and crosses. He just has a bit more finesse in the final third. With McCann favouring attack being the best line of defence will probably continue to favour Sterry.

If Nixon can improve in the final third then he could be a better all round player.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #10 on September 04, 2024, 09:09:15 am by sf9944 »
I thought Sterry played well last night to be honest.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #11 on September 04, 2024, 09:11:20 am by drfchound »
I thought Sterry played well last night to be honest.

He did.

Reg of the Rovers

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #12 on September 04, 2024, 09:30:23 am by Reg of the Rovers »
Sterry's not for me, he looks good going forward and a couple of his forward passes and runs last night were very good, but he's an awful defender who doesn't do the basics (stay switched on, stay tight, track runners, block crosses, make tackles etc). We've enough flair up the pitch now so I'd rather us be tight at the back and let our forward players be creative. Nixon over Sterry all day for me.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #13 on September 04, 2024, 01:01:04 pm by Lesonthewest »
Yet another goal at back post from an un marked player while he walks back, same as last week, week before, and most of last season.

Constant liability.

Nixon over Sterry every day of the week for me, atleast he is a defender with work ethic.

Must say Sterry was strolling back when he could see where Ward was straight in front of him, he had a good game overall, but that was certainly poor defensively.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #14 on September 04, 2024, 01:11:54 pm by Hickleton Rover »
Olowu was marking ward ( and doing a good job) all night the one time olowu went to help a fellow defender is the time ward got free to tap in, imo a full backs job is to try and stop wingers now we want them to defend centre forwards FFS let Grant do his job with what resources he has, and criticize or congratulate the team as a whole

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #15 on September 04, 2024, 02:59:18 pm by Lesonthewest »
Olowu was excellent against Ward, but Ward took up that position knowing Sterry was out of position, Sterry could see the danger right in front of him but chose to leave it to others. Just in my opinion of course.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #16 on September 04, 2024, 03:45:33 pm by Ryaldinhio »
I am not questioning Sterry as a player and what he brings overall to the team. Yes he is half decent going forward, but that shouldn't be totally to the detriment of defending. Yes GM plays attacking, but he certainly wouldn't have told Sterry not to track back.

If you watch the replay back Olowu moves away from the attacker and almost passes him on to Broadbent but with no communication. First mistake. Then Broadbent doesn't commit to picking him up and seems stuck in two minds, knows he is there but doesn't position correctly. Second mistake.

Sterry is facing all of this as his is on a slow jog back and makes zero effort to get back and help out. That is where my issue lies. I'm all for attacking full backs but their primary job is defending. Attacking full backs doesn't mean you have 2CBs and a cm dropping in. It means you have lads that can get up and down.

This is not the first time either, the hair bobble incident for example.

If someone is trying and it doesn't come off that's fine. But someone not even trying and working their arse off for the team, that I can't stand.

Watch the replay back, whilst the initial errors are not from Sterry he could have been back in there in plenty of time to stop it.

People labeling him a scape goat? If we keep conceding at back stick every week when he is walking back or doing his hair then it will get talked about, that doesn't make him a scape goat!

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #17 on September 04, 2024, 05:22:40 pm by Lesonthewest »
I am not questioning Sterry as a player and what he brings overall to the team. Yes he is half decent going forward, but that shouldn't be totally to the detriment of defending. Yes GM plays attacking, but he certainly wouldn't have told Sterry not to track back.

If you watch the replay back Olowu moves away from the attacker and almost passes him on to Broadbent but with no communication. First mistake. Then Broadbent doesn't commit to picking him up and seems stuck in two minds, knows he is there but doesn't position correctly. Second mistake.

Sterry is facing all of this as his is on a slow jog back and makes zero effort to get back and help out. That is where my issue lies. I'm all for attacking full backs but their primary job is defending. Attacking full backs doesn't mean you have 2CBs and a cm dropping in. It means you have lads that can get up and down.

This is not the first time either, the hair bobble incident for example.

If someone is trying and it doesn't come off that's fine. But someone not even trying and working their arse off for the team, that I can't stand.

Watch the replay back, whilst the initial errors are not from Sterry he could have been back in there in plenty of time to stop it.

People labeling him a scape goat? If we keep conceding at back stick every week when he is walking back or doing his hair then it will get talked about, that doesn't make him a scape goat!

Totally agree with next to last paragraph, don't think anyone's having a go at him, realky goid player, just an observation he could  have done better.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #18 on September 04, 2024, 06:40:01 pm by ravenrover »
I am not questioning Sterry as a player and what he brings overall to the team. Yes he is half decent going forward, but that shouldn't be totally to the detriment of defending. Yes GM plays attacking, but he certainly wouldn't have told Sterry not to track back.

If you watch the replay back Olowu moves away from the attacker and almost passes him on to Broadbent but with no communication. First mistake. Then Broadbent doesn't commit to picking him up and seems stuck in two minds, knows he is there but doesn't position correctly. Second mistake.

Sterry is facing all of this as his is on a slow jog back and makes zero effort to get back and help out. That is where my issue lies. I'm all for attacking full backs but their primary job is defending. Attacking full backs doesn't mean you have 2CBs and a cm dropping in. It means you have lads that can get up and down.

This is not the first time either, the hair bobble incident for example.

If someone is trying and it doesn't come off that's fine. But someone not even trying and working their arse off for the team, that I can't stand.

Watch the replay back, whilst the initial errors are not from Sterry he could have been back in there in plenty of time to stop it.

People labeling him a scape goat? If we keep conceding at back stick every week when he is walking back or doing his hair then it will get talked about, that doesn't make him a scape goat!
But with no communication?
You must havr very good hearing if there was no visible method

Ryaldinhio

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #19 on September 04, 2024, 08:44:07 pm by Ryaldinhio »
I am not questioning Sterry as a player and what he brings overall to the team. Yes he is half decent going forward, but that shouldn't be totally to the detriment of defending. Yes GM plays attacking, but he certainly wouldn't have told Sterry not to track back.

If you watch the replay back Olowu moves away from the attacker and almost passes him on to Broadbent but with no communication. First mistake. Then Broadbent doesn't commit to picking him up and seems stuck in two minds, knows he is there but doesn't position correctly. Second mistake.

Sterry is facing all of this as his is on a slow jog back and makes zero effort to get back and help out. That is where my issue lies. I'm all for attacking full backs but their primary job is defending. Attacking full backs doesn't mean you have 2CBs and a cm dropping in. It means you have lads that can get up and down.

This is not the first time either, the hair bobble incident for example.

If someone is trying and it doesn't come off that's fine. But someone not even trying and working their arse off for the team, that I can't stand.

Watch the replay back, whilst the initial errors are not from Sterry he could have been back in there in plenty of time to stop it.

People labeling him a scape goat? If we keep conceding at back stick every week when he is walking back or doing his hair then it will get talked about, that doesn't make him a scape goat!
But with no communication?
You must havr very good hearing if there was no visible method

Communication isn't only verbal and in that situation would have expected a clear gesture as well as a shout, either of which you would see a reaction from Broadbent as to the man he had been passed.......quite easy to see that none of this occurred.

I was simply pointing out that it wasn't only Sterry at fault for the goal, and usually with the exception of keeper error it is never just one player at fault. In truth it wasn't a Sterry error that caused it, but please watch it back and see his efforts to get back in to defend a clear risk. That is not acceptable and I expect Grant and Cliff will be talking to him about it......aswell as Broadbent.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #20 on September 04, 2024, 08:59:55 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
A similar situation arose at PV for their equaliser.

I think it was Clifton who pressed the player in possession,  in fact getting a tackle in but somehow the PV player came out with the ball. Simulatenously, both Bailey and Westbrooke were drawn towards the same player, leaving the goalscorer the space to run into behind. It really only needed one of them to go. Had either of them have held their ground then they could have covered that run. The pass was good enough to disect all of them and the player was in. Classic ball watching rather than picking up the man.

It happens sometimes quicker than someone can make a shout.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #21 on September 04, 2024, 09:18:43 pm by Ryaldinhio »
A similar situation arose at PV for their equaliser.

I think it was Clifton who pressed the player in possession,  in fact getting a tackle in but somehow the PV player came out with the ball. Simulatenously, both Bailey and Westbrooke were drawn towards the same player, leaving the goalscorer the space to run into behind. It really only needed one of them to go. Had either of them have held their ground then they could have covered that run. The pass was good enough to disect all of them and the player was in. Classic ball watching rather than picking up the man.

It happens sometimes quicker than someone can make a shout.

I almost added this I'm the post above. For me that one was on westbrooke. Clifton flew into the tackle amd was on the deck, Bailey pressed behind him, then Westbrooks movement and body language was a whole lot of nothing. No effort no intensity.

When I saw the squad the other night before kick off and he wasn't in there my mind I went straight back to seeing that dad jog, not sticking a leg out and little jump as the ball went in the net.....that's why he wasn't there.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #22 on September 04, 2024, 09:28:54 pm by ravenrover »
I am not questioning Sterry as a player and what he brings overall to the team. Yes he is half decent going forward, but that shouldn't be totally to the detriment of defending. Yes GM plays attacking, but he certainly wouldn't have told Sterry not to track back.

If you watch the replay back Olowu moves away from the attacker and almost passes him on to Broadbent but with no communication. First mistake. Then Broadbent doesn't commit to picking him up and seems stuck in two minds, knows he is there but doesn't position correctly. Second mistake.

Sterry is facing all of this as his is on a slow jog back and makes zero effort to get back and help out. That is where my issue lies. I'm all for attacking full backs but their primary job is defending. Attacking full backs doesn't mean you have 2CBs and a cm dropping in. It means you have lads that can get up and down.

This is not the first time either, the hair bobble incident for example.

If someone is trying and it doesn't come off that's fine. But someone not even trying and working their arse off for the team, that I can't stand.

Watch the replay back, whilst the initial errors are not from Sterry he could have been back in there in plenty of time to stop it.

People labeling him a scape goat? If we keep conceding at back stick every week when he is walking back or doing his hair then it will get talked about, that doesn't make him a scape goat!
But with no communication?
You must havr very good hearing if there was no visible method

Communication isn't only verbal and in that situation would have expected a clear gesture as well as a shout, either of which you would see a reaction from Broadbent as to the man he had been passed.......quite easy to see that none of this occurred.

I was simply pointing out that it wasn't only Sterry at fault for the goal, and usually with the exception of keeper error it is never just one player at fault. In truth it wasn't a Sterry error that caused it, but please watch it back and see his efforts to get back in to defend a clear risk. That is not acceptable and I expect Grant and Cliff will be talking to him about it......aswell as Broadbent.
Maybe read what I said again.
Giving a verbal instruction doesn't need a visual instruction.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #23 on September 04, 2024, 09:45:18 pm by Ryaldinhio »
I am not questioning Sterry as a player and what he brings overall to the team. Yes he is half decent going forward, but that shouldn't be totally to the detriment of defending. Yes GM plays attacking, but he certainly wouldn't have told Sterry not to track back.

If you watch the replay back Olowu moves away from the attacker and almost passes him on to Broadbent but with no communication. First mistake. Then Broadbent doesn't commit to picking him up and seems stuck in two minds, knows he is there but doesn't position correctly. Second mistake.

Sterry is facing all of this as his is on a slow jog back and makes zero effort to get back and help out. That is where my issue lies. I'm all for attacking full backs but their primary job is defending. Attacking full backs doesn't mean you have 2CBs and a cm dropping in. It means you have lads that can get up and down.

This is not the first time either, the hair bobble incident for example.

If someone is trying and it doesn't come off that's fine. But someone not even trying and working their arse off for the team, that I can't stand.

Watch the replay back, whilst the initial errors are not from Sterry he could have been back in there in plenty of time to stop it.

People labeling him a scape goat? If we keep conceding at back stick every week when he is walking back or doing his hair then it will get talked about, that doesn't make him a scape goat!
But with no communication?
You must havr very good hearing if there was no visible method

Communication isn't only verbal and in that situation would have expected a clear gesture as well as a shout, either of which you would see a reaction from Broadbent as to the man he had been passed.......quite easy to see that none of this occurred.

I was simply pointing out that it wasn't only Sterry at fault for the goal, and usually with the exception of keeper error it is never just one player at fault. In truth it wasn't a Sterry error that caused it, but please watch it back and see his efforts to get back in to defend a clear risk. That is not acceptable and I expect Grant and Cliff will be talking to him about it......aswell as Broadbent.
Maybe read what I said again.
Giving a verbal instruction doesn't need a visual instruction.

I don't disagree with that RR but there is no reaction from Broadbent when Joe moves away from him. No turn to see where the player is until too late. Watching that goal I don't believe there is a shout from Joe.

But these things will happen.

If we win 2.1 every week who cares why the 1 went in!

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #24 on September 04, 2024, 10:07:37 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Sterry is a good player at this level. Yes maybe not a proper defender but he will create goals too. Question is is he better than Nixon. Personally I think Nixon is better and has a higher ceiling so should play.

That said I’ve not seen him have a run of games for a while with his injury

Ryaldinhio

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #25 on September 04, 2024, 10:16:05 pm by Ryaldinhio »
Sterry is a good player at this level. Yes maybe not a proper defender but he will create goals too. Question is is he better than Nixon. Personally I think Nixon is better and has a higher ceiling so should play.

That said I’ve not seen him have a run of games for a while with his injury

Agree with all of this.

A big thing for me is effort and work ethic. Which puts Nixon infront by a nose.

Ita a good problem to have.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #26 on September 07, 2024, 06:52:51 pm by Ryaldinhio »
Thought sterry had a great game today. Definitely not a liability today.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #27 on September 07, 2024, 06:57:21 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Sterry was excellent today.

Him, Westbrook and McGrath top three today for me.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #28 on September 07, 2024, 07:06:29 pm by RoversInSpain »
The way he puts his body between the attacker and the ball and wins a free kick every time is an art form.
Top 3
1.McGrath, this is very encouraging, no nonsense, can out leap opponents in his own box and the opposition, snaps into a tackle, super stuff.
2. Westbrooke, cool as you like, always seemed to have time to push out passes, put a foot on the bal.
3. Joint,  Sterry and Fleming, Fleming was involved in so much, he’ll sleep tonight.Loved it when he went nose to nose with their player in last minute or so when about to defend a corner, BF was about 2 foot smaller in height, but gave him a right good eyeball.

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Re: Jamie Sterry
« Reply #29 on September 07, 2024, 07:06:50 pm by Metalmicky »
Yep - I thought Sterry was v.good today.... he has a good footballing brain and adapts himself well...
Good professional IMO.

 

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