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Drover

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Re: The Gibson Chant
« Reply #30 on October 05, 2024, 11:50:15 pm by Drover »
Gibbo is the one that stood out for me at pre season friendlies,his finishing is great,I felt he would thrive in GM's style/team.He started the season great,had a blip where his finishing let him down by his usually high standard in a couple of games recently,and looks back to his best again,Bravo young man.



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CottyRover

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Re: The Gibson Chant
« Reply #31 on October 06, 2024, 11:06:36 am by CottyRover »
Hope Bradford don’t see it as being disrespectful if it’s sung at the next away game or should we give it a miss
A big YES, and a very good point.
Would not be the song to sing.
Please give it a miss just for one game.




Could be taken as tragedy abuse?

andyst79

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Re: The Gibson Chant
« Reply #32 on October 06, 2024, 11:11:37 am by andyst79 »
Gibbo is the one that stood out for me at pre season friendlies,his finishing is great,I felt he would thrive in GM's style/team.He started the season great,had a blip where his finishing let him down by his usually high standard in a couple of games recently,and looks back to his best again,Bravo young man.
The timing of his run was superb and also the way he took it round the keeper, however that slight hesitation to slot it home almost cost him , allowing the defender to put in a great block, but from there the calmness &  composure to pick his spot was tremendous. I've seen premier league players panic and just try and blast it in those situations.

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Re: The Gibson Chant
« Reply #33 on October 06, 2024, 11:55:59 am by GazLaz »
Gibbo is the one that stood out for me at pre season friendlies,his finishing is great,I felt he would thrive in GM's style/team.He started the season great,had a blip where his finishing let him down by his usually high standard in a couple of games recently,and looks back to his best again,Bravo young man.
The timing of his run was superb and also the way he took it round the keeper, however that slight hesitation to slot it home almost cost him , allowing the defender to put in a great block, but from there the calmness &  composure to pick his spot was tremendous. I've seen premier league players panic and just try and blast it in those situations.

Both goals were great finishes. They weren’t hit and hopes, the ball went exactly where he wanted both times.

donnievic

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Re: The Gibson Chant
« Reply #34 on October 06, 2024, 03:57:53 pm by donnievic »
In all my years home and away I have never heard such amazing support for one player as that in the second half - tremendous to be there and witness and he must be feeling ten feet tall - massive praise to all the Rovers Fans today.

Very hard to pick MOM today out of Gibson, Bailey,McGrath and Kelly - and Broadbent looked what he is - CLASS.

It was a good song and must have made JG feel ten feet tall.
I just feel a bit sorry for Ironside who still hasn’t got a fan song even after what he achieved last season.
the Ironside one was to the tune of abba’s gimme,gimme,gimme
A striker from England
Plays in red n white
And is name is Joe iron-side

drfchound

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Re: The Gibson Chant
« Reply #35 on October 06, 2024, 04:48:51 pm by drfchound »
In all my years home and away I have never heard such amazing support for one player as that in the second half - tremendous to be there and witness and he must be feeling ten feet tall - massive praise to all the Rovers Fans today.

Very hard to pick MOM today out of Gibson, Bailey,McGrath and Kelly - and Broadbent looked what he is - CLASS.

It was a good song and must have made JG feel ten feet tall.
I just feel a bit sorry for Ironside who still hasn’t got a fan song even after what he achieved last season.
the Ironside one was to the tune of abba’s gimme,gimme,gimme
A striker from England
Plays in red n white
And is name is Joe iron-side

I will listen out for it next time Joe is on the pitch.

RoversInSpain

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Re: The Gibson Chant
« Reply #36 on October 08, 2024, 04:41:49 pm by RoversInSpain »
Hope Bradford don’t see it as being disrespectful if it’s sung at the next away game or should we give it a miss
A big YES, and a very good point.
Would not be the song to sing.
Please give it a miss just for one game.




Could be taken as tragedy abuse?
Thoughtless and uncaring, would be my thoughts.
And I’m sure we wouldn’t want to be placed in this bracket.

Dutch Uncle

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Re: The Gibson Chant
« Reply #37 on October 08, 2024, 05:28:41 pm by Dutch Uncle »
Hope Bradford don’t see it as being disrespectful if it’s sung at the next away game or should we give it a miss
A big YES, and a very good point.
Would not be the song to sing.
Please give it a miss just for one game.




Could be taken as tragedy abuse?
Thoughtless and uncaring, would be my thoughts.
And I’m sure we wouldn’t want to be placed in this bracket.

FWIW, my opinion is that the classy thing to do would be for us to announce prior to the match that we are not singing it during this one game as a mark of respect to Bradford ('us' could be DRFC Official and/or supporters' group). Then if any less classy people try to start singing, maybe they could be persuaded to stop.   

karldew

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Re: The Gibson Chant
« Reply #38 on October 08, 2024, 05:47:43 pm by karldew »
Hope Bradford don’t see it as being disrespectful if it’s sung at the next away game or should we give it a miss
A big YES, and a very good point.
Would not be the song to sing.
Please give it a miss just for one game.




Could be taken as tragedy abuse?
Thoughtless and uncaring, would be my thoughts.
And I’m sure we wouldn’t want to be placed in this bracket.

FWIW, my opinion is that the classy thing to do would be for us to announce prior to the match that we are not singing it during this one game as a mark of respect to Bradford ('us' could be DRFC Official and/or supporters' group). Then if any less classy people try to start singing, maybe they could be persuaded to stop.   

Get it sang, no announcements needed. Nothing wrong about it.

TonySoprano

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Re: The Gibson Chant
« Reply #39 on October 08, 2024, 06:50:52 pm by TonySoprano »
Agreed, anyone with more than one brain cell will know it's got absolutely nothing to do with the bradford tragedy.

Get it sung and support our players !

idler

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« Reply #40 on October 08, 2024, 09:52:42 pm by idler »
Having lived in Bradford since 1978 and knowing many City fans some who were there on that day I think that it would be in very bad taste. Surely we can rise above it for one game.
They lost 56 fans and over 200 were injured that day plus many more suffered mentally. Imagine if it were us that had lost fans like that. Just my opinion of course.

karldew

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« Reply #41 on October 08, 2024, 10:23:28 pm by karldew »
When Gibson scores a 93rd minute winner we’ll just clap rather than chant his name until and after the final whistle.

RTID!
« Last Edit: October 14, 2024, 09:16:23 am by karldew »

RoversInSpain

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Re: The Gibson Chant
« Reply #42 on October 09, 2024, 08:53:43 pm by RoversInSpain »
Having lived in Bradford since 1978 and knowing many City fans some who were there on that day I think that it would be in very bad taste. Surely we can rise above it for one game.
They lost 56 fans and over 200 were injured that day plus many more suffered mentally. Imagine if it were us that had lost fans like that. Just my opinion of course.

100% (as the footy players say).

Just chant the lads name. “Giiiibbbo” ain’t to difficult is it, or is it.

idler

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« Reply #43 on October 09, 2024, 09:57:56 pm by idler »
One of those that died, Leo, was in my house giving me a quote for double glazing a week or so before the fire. He was telling us how he had turned his life around and met a young lady after his failed marriage. He was really looking forward to the future.
He was one of those who made their way to the back of the stand only to find the exit padlocked. He was only identified by his car keys. There will be loads in the Bradford end knowing similar stories. Let’s show some respect, and class.  As RoversInSpain says we can support the Rovers and Gibson in the right manner.

Padge_DRFC

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Re: The Gibson Chant
« Reply #44 on October 10, 2024, 06:10:17 am by Padge_DRFC »
I think this is fairly obvious. You just don't go to the place where a tragedy happened like Bradford did and start singing a song that sings about starting fires.

TonySoprano

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« Reply #45 on October 10, 2024, 11:50:39 am by TonySoprano »
Again, anyone with more than one brain cell will realise it's got nothing to do with the tragedy.

Why do people in this day and age go out of their way to find insult in everything.


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Re: The Gibson Chant
« Reply #46 on October 10, 2024, 12:15:48 pm by Bentley Bullet »
It's called "putting your foot in it", or at least it used to be when people respected decorum.

Saying something quite innocently like "How's your husband?"
and getting the reply "Oh, he died this morning", is putting your foot in it.

To say "How's your husband?", knowing full well he died this morning, is somewhat contemptible.

To sing the Gibson chant at the Bradford game, knowing full well about the ground's past fire disaster, is insensitive and innapropriate.
« Last Edit: October 10, 2024, 12:18:31 pm by Bentley Bullet »

TonySoprano

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Re: The Gibson Chant
« Reply #47 on October 11, 2024, 10:05:04 am by TonySoprano »
Your analogy doesn't fit here.

The more accurate one would be, to not talk about your own spouse infront of someone who lost theirs 40 years ago.
Which is of course, daft.



There's better ways to show respect, and remember the victims of that terrible tragedy.
I personally will visit the memorial, and have a few mins of quiet reflection.

Ldr

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« Reply #48 on October 11, 2024, 12:08:49 pm by Ldr »
I wonder if other teams fans had such a cringing discussion over singing Will Griggs chant at Bradford? Mentioning the word “fire” is not tragedy mocking in any way unless deliberately referencing the event, which it isn’t. Society needs to stop thinking everyone and everything is offensive

karldew

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« Reply #49 on October 11, 2024, 02:18:57 pm by karldew »
I wonder if other teams fans had such a cringing discussion over singing Will Griggs chant at Bradford? Mentioning the word “fire” is not tragedy mocking in any way unless deliberately referencing the event, which it isn’t. Society needs to stop thinking everyone and everything is offensive

Amen

Campsall rover

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« Reply #50 on October 11, 2024, 02:31:43 pm by Campsall rover »
The point is it could be taken as being insensitive.
Bradford fans are not familiar with the song are they.
What they will hear is “start a fire” and the rest becomes blurred.

If some of you can’t see that then you really are the most selfish & insensitive to what happened on that horrific day at Valley Parade.

In no way should that song be sung at Bradford on the 26th Oct.
End of imo.

Ldr

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« Reply #51 on October 11, 2024, 02:43:50 pm by Ldr »
The point is it could be taken as being insensitive.
Bradford fans are not familiar with the song are they.
What they will hear is “start a fire” and the rest becomes blurred.

If some of you can’t see that then you really are the most selfish & insensitive to what happened on that horrific day at Valley Parade.

In no way should that song be sung at Bradford on the 26th Oct.
End of imo.

Why wouldn’t they be familiar? It’s not unique to us

Campsall rover

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« Reply #52 on October 11, 2024, 03:20:52 pm by Campsall rover »
The point is it could be taken as being insensitive.
Bradford fans are not familiar with the song are they.
What they will hear is “start a fire” and the rest becomes blurred.

If some of you can’t see that then you really are the most selfish & insensitive to what happened on that horrific day at Valley Parade.

In no way should that song be sung at Bradford on the 26th Oct.
End of imo.

Why wouldn’t they be familiar? It’s not unique to us
Get a grip.
Are you old enough to have seen what happened that day? If you are you need to give yourself a damn good wobble.
If your not then just think about what those survivors, relatives & friends have gone through for the last 39 yrs and 5 months.

Hag

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« Reply #53 on October 11, 2024, 03:23:13 pm by Hag »
Easy to sort. ask the Bradford fans on their forum.

Ldr

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« Reply #54 on October 11, 2024, 03:32:34 pm by Ldr »
The point is it could be taken as being insensitive.
Bradford fans are not familiar with the song are they.
What they will hear is “start a fire” and the rest becomes blurred.

If some of you can’t see that then you really are the most selfish & insensitive to what happened on that horrific day at Valley Parade.

In no way should that song be sung at Bradford on the 26th Oct.
End of imo.

Why wouldn’t they be familiar? It’s not unique to us
Get a grip.
Are you old enough to have seen what happened that day? If you are you need to give yourself a damn good wobble.
If your not then just think about what those survivors, relatives & friends have gone through for the last 39 yrs and 5 months.

Of course I am, and I suspect I’ve had to view the footage a lot more than you on fire training courses. Where do we draw the line? Stop telling players to shoot in case it offends relatives of shooting victims? Crosses will be out so we don’t upset Christians, can’t say sinking without trace, may be upsetting to anyone who knows anyone who has gone down with a ship.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2024, 03:57:42 pm by Ldr »

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« Reply #55 on October 11, 2024, 04:08:10 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Easy to sort. ask the Bradford fans on their forum.

Hmmm.. "Donny fan in peace. We are a cutely aware of the Bradford fire disaster and we will always be respectful of this particularly the family and friends of those who tragically lost their lives. However, we have a chant for one of our players which contain references to fire so we would like to ask you if we sing it, is it likely to cause offence?"

Now, however politely you might ask this, I expect you'd probably get a mixed response, just as we have on here. I think  my advice for what it's worth is where there is doubt, don't go there at all and show the ultimate respect, even if some might think it's over sensitive. As said by others support Gibson and the team in other ways just for one game! 

Dutch Uncle

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« Reply #56 on October 11, 2024, 05:58:30 pm by Dutch Uncle »
Easy to sort. ask the Bradford fans on their forum.

Hmmm.. "Donny fan in peace. We are a cutely aware of the Bradford fire disaster and we will always be respectful of this particularly the family and friends of those who tragically lost their lives. However, we have a chant for one of our players which contain references to fire so we would like to ask you if we sing it, is it likely to cause offence?"

Now, however politely you might ask this, I expect you'd probably get a mixed response, just as we have on here. I think  my advice for what it's worth is where there is doubt, don't go there at all and show the ultimate respect, even if some might think it's over sensitive. As said by others support Gibson and the team in other ways just for one game! 

Part of the potential problem in my eyes is the very specific line 'can't start a fire without a spark'. That is more than just a song with the word 'fire' in it. It very closely describes the crux of the whole disaster.

It is much easier for us to avoid singing this particular song on one day than for survivors and relatives have awful memories re-awakened at the very scene of their suffering and loss. I would have much less of a problem with us singing it at the Keepmoat/Ecopower.

Equally I would have much less of a problem singing the equivalent of the 'Will Grigg's on fire' song, based on 'Freed from Desire' with lyrics not specifically describing how a fire starts.     

DonnyBazR0ver

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« Reply #57 on October 11, 2024, 06:26:35 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Easy to sort. ask the Bradford fans on their forum.

Hmmm.. "Donny fan in peace. We are a cutely aware of the Bradford fire disaster and we will always be respectful of this particularly the family and friends of those who tragically lost their lives. However, we have a chant for one of our players which contain references to fire so we would like to ask you if we sing it, is it likely to cause offence?"

Now, however politely you might ask this, I expect you'd probably get a mixed response, just as we have on here. I think  my advice for what it's worth is where there is doubt, don't go there at all and show the ultimate respect, even if some might think it's over sensitive. As said by others support Gibson and the team in other ways just for one game! 

Part of the potential problem in my eyes is the very specific line 'can't start a fire without a spark'. That is more than just a song with the word 'fire' in it. It very closely describes the crux of the whole disaster.

It is much easier for us to avoid singing this particular song on one day than for survivors and relatives have awful memories re-awakened at the very scene of their suffering and loss. I would have much less of a problem with us singing it at the Keepmoat/Ecopower.

Equally I would have much less of a problem singing the equivalent of the 'Will Grigg's on fire' song, based on 'Freed from Desire' with lyrics not specifically describing how a fire starts.     

Agree Dutch. Any reference to fire should ideally be avoided. We just don't know how it could be interpreted or even misinterpreted, so just avoid it.

I would imagine we would gain more respect as a fan base, even by having this discussion and choosing not to sing the song by erring on the side of caution.

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« Reply #58 on October 11, 2024, 06:46:26 pm by ravenrover »
Let's face it, it's not going to happen. The "fans" will belt this out as they did at Grimsby particularly if Jordan has a blinder.
Right or wrong, to some it doesn't feature in their mindset

Campsall rover

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« Reply #59 on October 11, 2024, 07:11:35 pm by Campsall rover »
Let's face it, it's not going to happen. The "fans" will belt this out as they did at Grimsby particularly if Jordan has a blinder.
Right or wrong, to some it doesn't feature in their mindset
The majority who will sing it will not have been born until well after 1985
That’s the problem. Many will have very little knowledge of the tragedy.

 

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