England

[Filo]

Just plain wrong appointing a German.

Big ask of him if he's going to go one step better than southgate, and even if he does, I'll still have that niggle of him being a German

There’s a word for not liking people based on their race.

Being German is a nationality, not a race

[DonnyOsmond]

If he gets us playing attractive successful football he can be whatever nationality he wants, he can be Thomas McTuchel is he wants.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Difficult to stomach a German being England manager

Why? They don't care that they have English players in their team.... Neither do France.  Times have changed and English/German cultures are more alike than most, particularly in football.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I'm in no position to say he's the wrong choice.

It's just disappointing we've not been able to appoint someone from our own 'DNA' so to speak. If he'd been available, then I would have been happy with Eddie Howe for example, but it doesn't look good if we don't have many more home grown coaches of the right qualities so the FA need to look at succession management. I would have liked Gareth to  have been retained in a role, as there were many good things he brought to the England set up during his time.

[Metalmicky]

We have a wing-nut..... great

[MachoMadness]

Well people have been asking for a 'proven' manager... You can count on one hand the number of managers more 'proven' than this one. Less still if you only count the ones out of contract.

If he wins us a trophy he can be German, wave a German flag, and sing the German national anthem before every game to be honest.

[Padge_DRFC]

No compensation. Rubbish England gone for the cheap option

[River Don]

The Anglo Saxons came from NW Germany. Many of us are more Germanic than British, that ancient Britons being pushed to the edges of the country.

That being said, I've never been very comfortable with the national manager not being brought up here.To me it's not professional football, it's a national endeavour and that should include the coaching staff.

[donnyguy]

According to Sky Germany it’s an 18 month contract and will begin on January 1st.

[DRFC_AjA]

Well people have been asking for a 'proven' manager... You can count on one hand the number of managers more 'proven' than this one. Less still if you only count the ones out of contract.

If he wins us a trophy he can be German, wave a German flag, and sing the German national anthem before every game to be honest.

Before being England manager Capello as manager won....7 x Serie A, 2 x La Liga, 1 x Champions League. He was awful at tournaments with England

Before being the current Argentina manager, Scaloni won.......

My point, as others on the thread have asked. You dont win or gain some extra right to win a tournament just by spending the most money on a manager or getting one who won lots at club level. But here we go again in the media and amongst fans.

[Spilsby Red]

Poor choice

[ncRover]

Well people have been asking for a 'proven' manager... You can count on one hand the number of managers more 'proven' than this one. Less still if you only count the ones out of contract.

If he wins us a trophy he can be German, wave a German flag, and sing the German national anthem before every game to be honest.

Before being England manager Capello as manager won....7 x Serie A, 2 x La Liga, 1 x Champions League. He was awful at tournaments with England

Before being the current Argentina manager, Scaloni won.......

My point, as others on the thread have asked. You dont win or gain some extra right to win a tournament just by spending the most money on a manager or getting one who won lots at club level. But here we go again in the media and amongst fans.

Sarina Weigman

Plus Capello could barely speak English and had never managed in this country. Unlike Tuchel.

[Drover]

Why, in year 2024…does it matter that he’s German?

Exactly and if he is the best man for the job,then so be it.It would be a bit ironic though,if he becomes our first manager to win a major tournament since 66.

[drfchound]

Why, in year 2024…does it matter that he’s German?

Exactly and if he is the best man for the job,then so be it.It would be a bit ironic though,if he becomes our first manager to win a major tournament since 66.

Even more so if we were to beat Germany in the final (again).

[MachoMadness]

Well people have been asking for a 'proven' manager... You can count on one hand the number of managers more 'proven' than this one. Less still if you only count the ones out of contract.

If he wins us a trophy he can be German, wave a German flag, and sing the German national anthem before every game to be honest.

Before being England manager Capello as manager won....7 x Serie A, 2 x La Liga, 1 x Champions League. He was awful at tournaments with England

Before being the current Argentina manager, Scaloni won.......

My point, as others on the thread have asked. You dont win or gain some extra right to win a tournament just by spending the most money on a manager or getting one who won lots at club level. But here we go again in the media and amongst fans.

This is true, and why I'd have been happy to give Carsley a bit more time to stamp his mark on the team. I don't think a history in club football means much.

My point was those asking for a proven manager have got what they wanted, in spades. If your definition of 'proven' is success at the top level of the club game, then there isn't a more proven manager available than Tuchel. We'll see if it's the right call.

[redarmi66]

Whilst i would have preferred an Englishman, i think its a good appointment. Tuchel is a winner. We need to win something. He will have the respect of the players. I think there are a couple of egos in that dressing room that need managing. He can do that. Carsley was not the man for me.You need more than just coaching skills to be the England manager. You have be able to handle all the other stuff too. You have to be good in front of camera, handle the media and the pressure the role brings. The England manager cant be putting cones out in a tracksuit before a game.

[Goole Rover]

Difficult to stomach a German being England manager

It was difficult to stomach an English England manager who refused to sing his country’s national anthem. A great example of pride and motivation to his players.

[DRFC_AjA]

Difficult to stomach a German being England manager

It was difficult to stomach an English England manager who refused to sing his country’s national anthem. A great example of pride and motivation to his players.

40+ caps for Ireland. It's not an issue. The media made it more than it was

[DRFC_AjA]

Well people have been asking for a 'proven' manager... You can count on one hand the number of managers more 'proven' than this one. Less still if you only count the ones out of contract.

If he wins us a trophy he can be German, wave a German flag, and sing the German national anthem before every game to be honest.

Before being England manager Capello as manager won....7 x Serie A, 2 x La Liga, 1 x Champions League. He was awful at tournaments with England

Before being the current Argentina manager, Scaloni won.......

My point, as others on the thread have asked. You dont win or gain some extra right to win a tournament just by spending the most money on a manager or getting one who won lots at club level. But here we go again in the media and amongst fans.

Sarina Weigman

Plus Capello could barely speak English and had never managed in this country. Unlike Tuchel.

There were 3 part time teams at Euro 2022 ie plumbers and electricians so let's not even bother going there.

Let's hope Tuchel does the bizzo but my point still stands that "great CV" isn't good enough to be the main reason

[Bentley Bullet]

Players born in countries other than England may qualify for the England team through English parents or grandparents, or residency in England and subsequent naturalisation as British citizens.

The manager is just as much a part of the team as the players and should have to follow the same rules.

[River Don]

Just heard a journalist on Five live express the way I feel about this very well.

Given the manager in football is seen as the most consequential individual, why don't the same rules of nationality apply as the players?

Buying in outside expertise in this way devalues international football.

[Bentley Bullet]

If England were to win a tournament under Tuchel, the Germans would claim responsibility.

It would definitely take the edge off us winning something.

[ncRover]

In international football there is less contact time with the players. Tuchel won the champions league (knockout football) after 4 months with Chelsea. And he had Werner and Mount in attack. That is ridiculous.

I personally don’t care where he comes from. He is an individual. He wanted the job. He enjoys working in England and has spoken fondly of our players in the past. He admires our football culture.

To manage world class players (some with big egos) you need a world class manager. If the small matter of where someone was born and raised is more important than success then that’s a bit sad I’m afraid. No English managers are anywhere near Tuchel.

Semi-finals and runners up medals don’t mean anything.

[River Don]

It's more a question for FIFA and UEFA.

What's the point in international football if you can just buy in foreign talent? The manager these days is seen as the most important member of the team.

International football has an ethic more like amatuer football, though this has been degraded over recent decades. To me, that's what it still should aspire to be.

We have club football for the professional alternative.

[ncRover]

Well people have been asking for a 'proven' manager... You can count on one hand the number of managers more 'proven' than this one. Less still if you only count the ones out of contract.

If he wins us a trophy he can be German, wave a German flag, and sing the German national anthem before every game to be honest.

Before being England manager Capello as manager won....7 x Serie A, 2 x La Liga, 1 x Champions League. He was awful at tournaments with England

Before being the current Argentina manager, Scaloni won.......

My point, as others on the thread have asked. You dont win or gain some extra right to win a tournament just by spending the most money on a manager or getting one who won lots at club level. But here we go again in the media and amongst fans.

Sarina Weigman

Plus Capello could barely speak English and had never managed in this country. Unlike Tuchel.

There were 3 part time teams at Euro 2022 ie plumbers and electricians so let's not even bother going there.

Let's hope Tuchel does the bizzo but my point still stands that "great CV" isn't good enough to be the main reason

I thought you were coming at it from a cultural angle?

Can you please explain how the women’s game being a lower standard makes a foreign manager work out there but not in the men’s game?

[belton rover]

If England were to win a tournament under Tuchel, the Germans would claim responsibility.

It would definitely take the edge off us winning something.

I don’t agree with that.
If, say, Eddie Howe won the World Cup for Germany, I’d be:
A. As jealous as f**k
B. Thinking why, oh why could we not get him?

[TonySoprano]

Just plain wrong appointing a German.

Big ask of him if he's going to go one step better than southgate, and even if he does, I'll still have that niggle of him being a German

There’s a word for not liking people based on their race.

There's a name for people like you too.

Oh, and German is a nationality not a race

[TonySoprano]

If England were to win a tournament under Tuchel, the Germans would claim responsibility.

It would definitely take the edge off us winning something.

I don’t shree with that.
If, say, Eddie Howe won the World Cup for Germany, I’d be:
A. As jealous as f**k
B. Thinking why, oh why could we not get him?

Yeah, so it would be down to eddie however, our fellow englishman

[belton rover]

If England were to win a tournament under Tuchel, the Germans would claim responsibility.

It would definitely take the edge off us winning something.

I don’t shree with that.
If, say, Eddie Howe won the World Cup for Germany, I’d be:
A. As jealous as f**k
B. Thinking why, oh why could we not get him?

Yeah, so it would be down to eddie however, our fellow englishman

That’s not the point I was making.

[RoversInSpain]

If he wins matches for England couldn’t care less where he’s from.
Seems a good character, that handshake with Conti was a cracker, nearly ripped his arm off.
Next we’ll be saying Rovers should have an English manager…..
Well no thanks!