Pathetic

[andyst79]

Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.

[Bessie Red]

Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.

Over reaction!

[TonySoprano]

Broadbent is shocking, said it for months now.
Bailey isn't good enough, and molyneux is a 1 trick pony.
Clifton is an average league 2 slogger, and gibson just isn't interested.

We simply don't have a midfield, and playoffs is the best we can hope for with this lot.

[andyst79]

Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.

Over reaction!

Not really, we are miles off it and need to drastically improve or we'll be missing out in the playoffs again as GM seems to get outdone tactically in big games. Been too much unnecessary chopping and changing this season

[graingrover]

Not at all as pathetic as your opening post if you are a supporter.Try to read the game as a football fan not as a defeatist .Are you a loser or a fighter?Let me guess !

[PDX_Rover]

Typical chicken little comments after a loss.

[andyst79]

Not at all a defeatist, but am I wrong ? Yes we are well placed in the league & it's not a total disaster against a good team but did we give it a good go really?!  Was poor from GM and the decision making out on the pitch from the players wasn't great either. Been mediocre at best for weeks now

[Surrey Rover]

Bailey made a name for himself last season whilst playing in defence. After Wood returned from injury he was moved back into midfield by which time Matty Craig was in the side and making a big difference to players around him.

If any positives can be taken from this afternoon it’s given McCann a close up view of exactly what is needed to win this division.

[Bessie Red]

Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.

Over reaction!

Not really, we are miles off it and need to drastically improve or we'll be missing out in the playoffs again as GM seems to get outdone tactically in big games. Been too much unnecessary chopping and changing this season

Yes really. We were poor however I didn't think they were much better. First goal was poor from our perspective & second came from a superb ball into our box. Billy, Ironside & Olowu were all unlucky not to score. I reckon we will be closer than 10 points behind them at the end of the season & still get promoted.

[ChrisBx]

Our form is concerning and would see us finish mid-table if we don't improve. We're currently third, yet just two points ahead of eighth position.

[Canadian Rover]

Won't mention players by name, as to not create scapegoats but a few shirked challenges today.

Simply not good enough today at all.

TSL maybe could have done better for their second goal but he's certainly not the problem.

[Cramby10]

Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.

Over reaction!

3 wins in the last 10 would suggest otherwise. 2 of those were against a non league club and 10 men 23rd.
We stunk the place out today. And have done more and more frequently of late. The constant chopping and changing of personnel and formation is harming us terribly in my opinion. The manager has to take some responsibility now. If we want automatic promotion then we need to improve hand over fist.

[andyst79]

Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.

Over reaction!

Not really, we are miles off it and need to drastically improve or we'll be missing out in the playoffs again as GM seems to get outdone tactically in big games. Been too much unnecessary chopping and changing this season

Yes really. We were poor however I didn't think they were much better. First goal was poor from our perspective & second came from a superb ball into our box. Billy, Ironside & Olowu were all unlucky not to score. I reckon we will be closer than 10 points behind them at the end of the season & still get promoted.

As a side hoping for automatic promotion, did their keeper have to make a save today?

[ForsolongaRover]

We succeeded in holding them on the break in the first half, but their defence was better than our attack which did not coordinate at all well. In effect they still dictated the way the game went. Walsall showed their versatility and they are comfortably better than we are.

Whether McCann used subs effectively is debatable. Sharp was not making much headway after half time, but Walsall were mobile in defence and had more skilful players. Whether our decline is just lack of form, poor tactics, or lack of fitness, I don’t know. Molyneux gets well-marked and doesn’t seem to know what he should do, but getting rid quickly and running into space is one answer and he usually doesn’t.

It seems doubtful that we cannot sustain our present position without some strengthening.

[GazLaz]

It was an odd team selection. Two up top but only one creative player in the team. Said it in the other thread. The way to get at them is to match them up formation wise.

[Sprotyrover]

When you have been a Spporter for 50 years you have to be positive!

[Pliskin]

If anything the league table flatters us. We're looking like a pretty average team.

We don't seem to have the quality to turn enough of our attacking play into chances / goals. And we don't really keep that many clean sheets, only 5 all season and just 1 in the last 12.

More worryingly I'm not sure how much scope we'll have to significantly improve things in January given the current size of the squad.

[Bentley Bullet]

I just hope it won't be like last season in reverse.

[Prez]

We’ve resorted to panic football. Nobody wants to put their foot on the ball and dictate the play. Desperate for a play maker in the middle of the park.

[In the box]

Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.

Too many midfielders and not enough attacking minded players . Moly Kelly , Broadbent Gibson all not pulling in the sane direction . Over passing ,not tackling not winning enough second balls . Toothless in front of goal .. McCann has build a team that wants run but can’t win ..

[Lesonthewest]

Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.

Over reaction!

3 wins in the last 10 would suggest otherwise. 2 of those were against a non league club and 10 men 23rd.
We stunk the place out today. And have done more and more frequently of late. The constant chopping and changing of personnel and formation is harming us terribly in my opinion. The manager has to take some responsibility now. If we want automatic promotion then we need to improve hand over fist.

Agree with this, we are awful & no way reflect a McCann team of the past.

[redarmi66]

Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.

Pathetic comment! Get a grip lad. Beaten by the league leaders who showed why they are top. Thought we did ok first half. But they stepped up a gear 2nd half and we couldn't cope. They were bigger better stronger faster. We are still in the mix for promotion but we need a couple of additions in Jan.

[Scooter]

Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.

Over reaction!

Not really, we are miles off it and need to drastically improve or we'll be missing out in the playoffs again as GM seems to get outdone tactically in big games. Been too much unnecessary chopping and changing this season

Yes really. We were poor however I didn't think they were much better. First goal was poor from our perspective & second came from a superb ball into our box. Billy, Ironside & Olowu were all unlucky not to score. I reckon we will be closer than 10 points behind them at the end of the season & still get promoted.

As a side hoping for automatic promotion, did their keeper have to make a save today?

Just the one - from Olowu’s header

[Fal]

Ah here we go again, the meltdown brigade out in force.

Walsall were simply much better than us and you just have to hand it to them.

All the teams around us didn’t win either and aren’t exactly setting the world alight, we are all just as inconsistent as each other.

[andyst79]

Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.

Pathetic comment! Get a grip lad. Beaten by the league leaders who showed why they are top. Thought we did ok first half. But they stepped up a gear 2nd half and we couldn't cope. They were bigger better stronger faster. We are still in the mix for promotion but we need a couple of additions in Jan.

If we've aspirations of winning the league and you think that's an acceptable performance then you're deluded. Losers accept mediocricy, winners don't . But yeah let's get checkbook back out and back him again.

[drfchound]

Ah here we go again, the meltdown brigade out in force.

Walsall were simply much better than us and you just have to hand it to them.

All the teams around us didn’t win either and aren’t exactly setting the world alight, we are all just as inconsistent as each other.

Yep.
A few weeks back it looked as though PV were going to run away with the league but they too have also slipped back.
The same thing might happen with Walsall.
Still half a season to go.

[redarmi66]

Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.

Pathetic comment! Get a grip lad. Beaten by the league leaders who showed why they are top. Thought we did ok first half. But they stepped up a gear 2nd half and we couldn't cope. They were bigger better stronger faster. We are still in the mix for promotion but we need a couple of additions in Jan.

If we've aspirations of winning the league and you think that's an acceptable performance then you're deluded. Losers accept mediocricy, winners don't . But yeah let's get checkbook back out and back him again.

We are not good enough to win the league. Thats been clear before today. Im a realist not a loser. Promotion is the goal.

[Ian Nimmo]

Whilst you could say some of the posts are over the top, we cannot can’t get away from the fact that we have a problem. 
Today we got what many asked for, billy and Joe up front, however the service to them was pathetic. Again we set off positively and we seemed to be knocking the ball about well. However same issue occurs in that we don’t have the quick killer passes from midfield. PK started really well and won lots of the ball, but his final ball is lacking, seems like we are short of the midfielder who can take the game by the scuff of the neck and dictate play, with the likes of pk doing the work. A younger Tommy Roe comes to mind.
We had a plenty of the ball with some good passing, but it didn’t get us anywhere, and then some slack defending to give them a couple of goals.
It understandable why we get some over the top comments, at the end of the day they are worried about the recent results, I can’t see where anyone would not be concerned.

[Danmckay456]

The buck stops with the manager he’s got us in a position which we need to maintain and have the squad to do it but we need to get on a run and shake off the inconsistency, my biggest concern is far too many look a shadow of the form of August -September

[Reg of the Rovers]

I thought we were really poor, and have been for a few games. We're shocking in the final third, quality of final ball and decision-making is terrible.

I thought Walsall weren't that great, I don't think we were blown away by a great team, rather we weren't at it - didn't look like scoring and didn't have enough fight in us. Broadbent is terrible, we need to go shopping the January sales - midfield is such a weakness for us.

Lots of clubs round us with games in hand, we need to win next two to stay top three. We need to find a way to kick on as it all feels a bit stale at the moment.