The red card

[Filo]

https://x.com/nocontextrovers/status/1873441268573065477?s=61&t=DCRm1C_BBr5pt7J45jXUsA

Ridiculous from the ref

[bobbymax]

That's just an utterly ridiculous and crap piece of refereeing!

[PDX_Rover]

Utter nonsense. Rovers should appeal it.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I don't think so. He marked where the free kick was to be taken, moved the ball back when Gibson tried to advance it, then started to pace out 10 yards. He had to stop again to tell Gibson at which point it looks like Maxwell tried to diffuse the situation by putting the ball further back but Gibson insisted on flicking it forward again. 

Don't take liberties when you're on a yellow. He had fair warning.

[Filo]

Utter nonsense. Rovers should appeal it.

Can’t appeal second yellows

[Chris Black come back]

I don't think so. He marked where the free kick was to be taken, moved the ball back when Gibson tried to advance it, then started to pace out 10 yards. He had to stop again to tell Gibson at which point it looks like Maxwell tried to diffuse the situation by putting the ball further back but Gibson insisted on flicking it forward again. 

Don't take liberties when you're on a yellow. He had fair warning.

This is correct.

[Drover]

What pi55es me off,what advantage do you get for a few inches, don't know why so many players try do it.

[POD]

I don't think so. He marked where the free kick was to be taken, moved the ball back when Gibson tried to advance it, then started to pace out 10 yards. He had to stop again to tell Gibson at which point it looks like Maxwell tried to diffuse the situation by putting the ball further back but Gibson insisted on flicking it forward again. 

Don't take liberties when you're on a yellow. He had fair warning.

It looks from this clip that Gibson felt that the free kick should have been taken further forward and wasn’t going to be told otherwise, either by Maxwell or the referee.   

When he actually moves part of the white marking foam, he gives the referee no alternative but to give him a second yellow card.

[Thorney]

Yet when ivan toney did it after a wall set up and scored straight from it he was just classed as being crafty and goal stood.

[drfchound]

Toneys free kick was in a shooting position and he actually did gain an advantage by moving the ball.
In the place where Gibson was going to take his free kick from he had nothing to gain by moving the ball a couple of feet in any direction.
I do think that the ref gave the yellow card without realising that he had already booked Gibson and it was only when he went to write his name that it dawned on him and he had to pull out the red card.

[Filo]

Toneys free kick was in a shooting position and he actually did gain an advantage by moving the ball.
In the place where Gibson was going to take his free kick from he had nothing to gain by moving the ball a couple of feet in any direction.
I do think that the ref gave the yellow card without realising that he had already booked Gibson and it was only when he went to write his name that it dawned on him and he had to pull out the red card.

I agree with this, there was a bit of a delay between the yellow and red cards, he’ll never admit that though

[Lesonthewest]

He was already on a yellow, gave the ref an excuse to make the decision, silly & immature.

[donnievic]

What pi55es me off,what advantage do you get for a few inches, don't know why so many players try do it.

it’s the fact he moved it forward not once but twice when the ref told him not too

[mushRTID]

Regardless if Gibson was stupid or not, I’m convinced the way it played out that the ref didn’t realise he’d already been booked.

It took ages for him to pull out the red.

[Silkscarf]

Both the ref and Gibson look ridiculous here. Gibson was just like Molly at home a few weeks back (Chez was it?). Schoolboy errors.

A good ref won’t give 2 yellows for that kind of nonsense, especially when he didn’t make everything clear enough himself. OK a yellow, then get the game going again.

But Gibson was just pointlessly cheating like most players do, pinching the odd few inches on a free kick/corner/throw-in which makes bugger all difference as we see every week when they can’t get the bloody thing past the first defender or it just goes far too long and sails out for a goal kick or throw-in.

Maybe get some proper wingers to do the outdated unfashionable stuff.

[GazLaz]

Both the ref and Gibson look ridiculous here. Gibson was just like Molly at home a few weeks back (Chez was it?). Schoolboy errors.

A good ref won’t give 2 yellows for that kind of nonsense, especially when he didn’t make everything clear enough himself. OK a yellow, then get the game going again.

But Gibson was just pointlessly cheating like most players do, pinching the odd few inches on a free kick/corner/throw-in which makes bugger all difference as we see every week when they can’t get the bloody thing past the first defender or it just goes far too long and sails out for a goal kick or throw-in.

Maybe get some proper wingers to do the outdated unfashionable stuff.

He’s just moved the ball off a shitty bald part of the pitch on to grass. He wasn’t even going to take the free kick!

[selby]

  His own fault a brain fart, in his defence the marks on the pitch of the actual foul were clearly to be seen a yard in front of the referees markings.

[donnyguy]

Gibson on twitter
Really disappointed to let the team down in those circumstances. Just tried to put the ball on a bit of grass but should’ve been wiser on a yellow. Lesson learned, credit to the boys digging in. Great support as always

[roversdude]

Tbf he was told several times by the ref

[Usher wide.]

Both the ref and Gibson look ridiculous here. Gibson was just like Molly at home a few weeks back (Chez was it?). Schoolboy errors.

A good ref won’t give 2 yellows for that kind of nonsense, especially when he didn’t make everything clear enough himself. OK a yellow, then get the game going again.

But Gibson was just pointlessly cheating like most players do, pinching the odd few inches on a free kick/corner/throw-in which makes bugger all difference as we see every week when they can’t get the bloody thing past the first defender or it just goes far too long and sails out for a goal kick or throw-in.

Maybe get some proper wingers to do the outdated unfashionable stuff.

He’s just moved the ball off a shitty bald part of the pitch on to grass. He wasn’t even going to take the free kick!

You’re wrong.

Not only did he place the ball in front of the refs mark, after which the ref stopped turned around & gesticulated that he move the ball back, Gibson then (in full view of the ref) wiped the remainder of the refs now ‘dissolving spray line’ out with his foot!

C’mon, he’s taking the p**s & the refs having none of it because it’s tantamount to dissent.

As for your defence argument that he was merely moving the ball onto a ‘grassy area of the pitch’, you’re having a laugh! The state of that pitch he would have been better leaving it on the more ‘level’ barren patch PLUS, it was a free kick not on the edge of the area where a clean strike might give us a goal but from a position by the byline where a delivery into the box was called for.

Now I’m no lover of referees but Gibson needs to put a finger to each side of his head & think about what’s going on in there because he went from hero to zero in a flick of a switch but thank goodness for him, hopefully going forward, we hung on for a draw for the 17 minutes he ended up being off the pitch.

He gave that ref the reason/excuse call it what you will to show a yellow card (in this case a second yellow therefore a red therefore a games ban at least) & he needs to reflect on all of that despite what protestations Grant might put up.

[dickos1]

This kind of thing happens numerous times every game without any yellow card, to give someone a 2nd yellow is farcical. A ridiculous decision

[Donnywolf]

Toneys free kick was in a shooting position and he actually did gain an advantage by moving the ball.
In the place where Gibson was going to take his free kick from he had nothing to gain by moving the ball a couple of feet in any direction.
I do think that the ref gave the yellow card without realising that he had already booked Gibson and it was only when he went to write his name that it dawned on him and he had to pull out the red card.

Absolutely my thoughts. Ref blatantly ignored 2nd Yellows as most ( not all of them do )

One that stood out was Taylor who having beef Booked for dissent then threw himself to floor in 2nd Half and should have copped a second as Ref quite clearly told him to get up , inferring a simulation. But he didn't

[SydneyRover]

If the verdict is that there was nothing to gain from moving the ball, it shows the idiocy of doing just that in defiance of the ref, no?

[Donnywolf]

Same at Corners SR. What possible advantage can be gleaned by Corner takers putting ball out of quadrant by a millimetre ?

When they do it in SW and NE corner it is for time wasting of course

Why are officials so compulsive about that millimetre when there are much more blatant pinching of yards that could make a real difference

Example . Team gets caught Offside just outside Penalty Area . Lino stands there with flag up. Keeper is going long. Centre back knocks ball 5 yards forward of Lino.

Then calls keeper forward . He will pick ball up , or bounce it , or spin in further forward often another 5 yards BUT what does Lino do

Answer 99 times out of a hundred he will run to be in line with the kick

1 out of a hundred he will start running as Keeper is taking kick

0 out of a Hundred ( I've never seen this ) he will Flag to Ref or tell him over Mike that kicking team has stolen 10 yards

Conclusion. Consistency in the game is NIL

Ref cares about a Millimetre at Corners for example because that REALLY matters but doesn't give a s**t about restarts anywhere else where it could run into yards or many many yards

[SydneyRover]

Yes it infuriates but all lino's and refs are different animals you have to accept what they decide on the day and you take the risk of getting a card.

[Ian Nimmo]

We have seen so far that the standard of officials is in the main very poor.
This ref was inconsistent sometimes being fair but on other occasions he got things totally wrong, Ironside being flatened and hursty being totally taken out were clearly yellow cards, indeed some refs may have given a red.

However Gibson was stupidity and clearly wasn’t thinking straight, as soon as he moved the ball the 3rd time I shouted out what are you doing!

The real problem is the officials seem to get away with their errors and totally incapable performances, which probably because there is a real shortage of officials.

[In the box]

https://x.com/nocontextrovers/status/1873441268573065477?s=61&t=DCRm1C_BBr5pt7J45jXUsA

Ridiculous from the ref

A talking too was all that was needed . But Gibson knew that he’d been booked and the ref saw an opportunity easy target .

[donnievic]

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Both the ref and Gibson look ridiculous here. Gibson was just like Molly at home a few weeks back (Chez was it?). Schoolboy errors.

A good ref won’t give 2 yellows for that kind of nonsense, especially when he didn’t make everything clear enough himself. OK a yellow, then get the game going again.

But Gibson was just pointlessly cheating like most players do, pinching the odd few inches on a free kick/corner/throw-in which makes bugger all difference as we see every week when they can’t get the bloody thing past the first defender or it just goes far too long and sails out for a goal kick or throw-in.

Maybe get some proper wingers to do the outdated unfashionable stuff.

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the ref didn’t give 2 yellows only one

[EasyforDennis]

If you look at the incident properly, when the referee turned back to look, it was Maxwell, not Gibson, who had picked the ball up.

[In the box]

If you look at the incident properly, when the referee turned back to look, it was Maxwell, not Gibson, who had picked the ball up.

He saw Gibson play around with the foam that ref had placed at that clinched it …