Olowu and molly

[Thorney]

Massive end of season coming up.

If we dont go up then i dont think we will see these 2 at the eco-power next season unfortunatly

[karldew]

We need to announce Olowu has signed a new deal ASAP!

[GazLaz]

Moly has got 2 years left on his contract hadn’t he?

[graingrover]

What on earth is the point of such a pessimistic post especially since you are ill-informed about Molyneuxasked for a long-term contract and said he wanted to follow in Voppinger’s footsteps at Donny and be hailed a Donny legend .

[Thorney]

Moly has got 2 years left on his contract hadn’t he?

Yes he has.
But if we dont go up then do you not think that some offers would not come him for him that will tempt him away? And the sale price would be to good for a league 2 side to turn down

[Thorney]

What on earth is the point of such a pessimistic post especially since you are ill-informed about Molyneuxasked for a long-term contract and said he wanted to follow in Voppinger’s footsteps at Donny and be hailed a Donny legend .

Stating that these 2 players are becoming so good that there will be scouts and eyes throughout the leagues that will be on high alert that joe is out of contract in the summer. And any wide player that scores and assists like luke does will also create intrest.

[GazLaz]

Nolan at Accrington got 17 goals and plenty of assists last season and he couldn’t get a move out of L2. I don’t think it’s certain he goes.

[Thorney]

Nolan at Accrington got 17 goals and plenty of assists last season and he couldn’t get a move out of L2. I don’t think it’s certain he goes.

Maybe not certain and i hope he is with us in league 1.

Do you not think that he would have intrest from clubs higher up in the pyramid?

[GazLaz]

Nolan at Accrington got 17 goals and plenty of assists last season and he couldn’t get a move out of L2. I don’t think it’s certain he goes.

Maybe not certain and i hope he is with us in league 1.

Do you not think that he would have intrest from clubs higher up in the pyramid?

It’s not impossible but I don’t think they will be queueing up. He’s not got the physicality/ pace or mentality to play much higher.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

What on earth is the point of such a pessimistic post especially since you are ill-informed about Molyneuxasked for a long-term contract and said he wanted to follow in Voppinger’s footsteps at Donny and be hailed a Donny legend .

Stating that these 2 players are becoming so good that there will be scouts and eyes throughout the leagues that will be on high alert that joe is out of contract in the summer. And any wide player that scores and assists like luke does will also create intrest.

People were saying exactly the same about Molyneux and his contract last January onwards. We got on the run and both parties said they didn't want to get distracted by negotiations while there was a job to do on the pitch.

Can't we allow the professionals to do their jobs when the times right without assuming no news is bad news. The same applies now, the best we can do is support Joe by singing his name and showing the love.

[Thorney]

Nolan at Accrington got 17 goals and plenty of assists last season and he couldn’t get a move out of L2. I don’t think it’s certain he goes.

Maybe not certain and i hope he is with us in league 1.

Do you not think that he would have intrest from clubs higher up in the pyramid?

It’s not impossible but I don’t think they will be queueing up. He’s not got the physicality/ pace or mentality to play much higher.

Pace his the problem for him.
Dont think the other 2 are.

[GazLaz]

Nolan at Accrington got 17 goals and plenty of assists last season and he couldn’t get a move out of L2. I don’t think it’s certain he goes.

Maybe not certain and i hope he is with us in league 1.

Do you not think that he would have intrest from clubs higher up in the pyramid?

It’s not impossible but I don’t think they will be queueing up. He’s not got the physicality/ pace or mentality to play much higher.

Pace his the problem for him.
Dont think the other 2 are.

We will see. Big step up to L1 from L2. I wouldn’t be desperate to sign a winger from L2 that struggles to beat a man at that level.

Let him assist us getting promoted and then see what happens.

[StocksArmy]

McGrath MOTM by a landslide for me tonight. Need to tie him to a better contract. Left sided centre halves are extremely hard to come by. Add to that he’s only 21. If or when he moves on we want to be demanding big money with a sell on clause for him.

[One_Matty_Lucas]

If Moly maintains the form that will get him a big move away we will be promoted.

[Red wizard]

If he keeps up current form then I can't see us keeping Olowu.

[ncRover]

Molyneux is a great player at L2 level, one of the best in the league now.
But he’d be a risk for a L1 club to spend a transfer fee on, given that he’s at peak age for a winger (turning 27) and is unproven at L1 level.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Some would have us believe the club should be selling our prime assets for the maximum profit if we want to succeed. Reinvesting in the next rough diamonds to brush up etc.

Of course we would hope Joe signs a other new deal, but then surely we should be cashing in with these two??

Call me old fashioned but I like to keep the good players and take them with us up the leagues.

[i_ateallthepies]

Absolutely right, Baz.  Every player you bring in is a gamble, why get rid of your best players you know are already the right fit and performing well?

[Ian Nimmo]

In the period 60’s to 90’s we sold at first opportunity and was one of main reasons we yo-yo between divisions 3 and 4.
If we can get promoted this year it will help us to retain these two.

However salary between L1 and L2 is huge. Difference between L1 and Championship is colossal and there is no way players can afford to turn down any moves that come their way.

[selby]

   When it comes to pace with Moly, he is not slow, at Barrow he carried the ball on a heavy pitch thirty to forty yards with a chasing defender without the ball not making any ground up, and in fairness after the first few weeks of the season at least two sides early on played quick defenders against him, one a midfielder especially to match his pace, also doubling up on him with a midfielder tucking in inside to make him go down the line.
  I have it on good authority he is up there in sprints in the first few at the club, the lad from Bristol City was fast but not with a ball at his feet, that is the secret, still quick carrying the ball, and he beats his man regularly, now on the outside as well.

[DrewSouthStand]

On the Barrow forum one of their fans said they were sat next to some people from various clubs taking notes, including someone from Hull. Sounds like scouts to me and these two would be whom I'd have been watching if I were they

[IDM]

Give them contracts with promotion pay rise clauses, or release fees if we don’t go up.?

[ForsolongaRover]

Some would have us believe the club should be selling our prime assets for the maximum profit if we want to succeed. Reinvesting in the next rough diamonds to brush up etc.

Of course we would hope Joe signs a other new deal, but then surely we should be cashing in with these two??

Call me old fashioned but I like to keep the good players and take them with us up the leagues.

However objectively we make the case one way or the other, a would suggest that the main influence is the player’s own wishes and ambitions guided to a greater or lesser extent by his agent. I’m sure that players don’t set out to mislead when they are interviewed about their relationship with the club, but I cannot remember a Rovers player ever saying anything uncomplimentary about the club and his commitment to the cause. Detaching myself from my club allegiance I’d guess Olowu is the most likely one to move on because he is a more rounded player, the best we’ve got I’d say.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Give them contracts with promotion pay rise clauses, or release fees if we don’t go up.?

Well that's how things work. You can bet your bottom dollar there's both release clauses and sell on clauses in Moly's contract which are mutually beneficial. Without agreeing these, chances are they could have walked away but then you'll get those who'll say we sold em for peanuts, as was the case with Whiteman and Marquis who both re-signed when they could have walked.

Joe is in a similar position now. To suggest we should have re-negotiated his contract 12 months ago (12 months into his 2 year extension) is not understanding how it works. Chances are Joe's reps wouldn't have even considered further negotiations precisely because they're now in the strongest possible negotiating position, certainly better than 12 months ago. Plus from the clubs perspective, why give a player another pay rise half way through his contract?

Always difficult to call but I would guess with Joe, he wouldn't want to see the club short changed whilst understanding his value, so with the right clauses he could re-sign knowing the club will be 'fair' to him too should offers come in. The other good thing, is with TBs more hands on interest, I would guess he's more aware of the players value to the club and might be able to 'influence 'Joe to stay a little longer. Obvs a promotion thrown in can only help.

[The Dav]

I think Joe will sign another deal ! You can clearly see he’s happy here and now an integral maybe even senior (not in age) member of our team ! I’ve just got this feeling he’s a man of integrity and loyal, but if he goes then it will be with my blessing as he’s turned into one hell of a player for us !

[sedwardsdrfc]

If Molly lost form and struggled with criticism however unwarranted then he won’t be getting big money offers. His route to a better level is growing with this team like copps did.

[mpc123]

If Molly lost form and struggled with criticism however unwarranted then he won’t be getting big money offers. His route to a better level is growing with this team like copps did.

Why won't he?

[sedwardsdrfc]

If Molly lost form and struggled with criticism however unwarranted then he won’t be getting big money offers. His route to a better level is growing with this team like copps did.

Why won't he?

Well if it’s true that he struggled with confidence off the back of that I’m not sure clubs with more money and more demanding fans would want to take the risk.

[jmt23]

Grant has said some players clause/ options have been triggered. I hope it’s not Joe but can imagine it will be.
Great lad and superb player, should be the captain for me.

[mpc123]

If Molly lost form and struggled with criticism however unwarranted then he won’t be getting big money offers. His route to a better level is growing with this team like copps did.

Why won't he?

Well if it’s true that he struggled with confidence off the back of that I’m not sure clubs with more money and more demanding fans would want to take the risk.

I don't get it?  He is fine. As before it's about coming back and being stronger. For sure you know it won't effect him again now more likely than someone who hasn't been through it.