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streathamdave

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #30 on February 17, 2025, 09:40:57 pm by streathamdave »
We will need a massive rebuild with more experienced players regardless of what division we are laying next year. In all positions.
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Usher wide.

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #31 on February 17, 2025, 10:35:54 pm by Usher wide. »
We will need a massive rebuild with more experienced players regardless of what division we are laying next year. In all positions.

Whichever division we find ourselves in next season (gawd forbid it’s this one), I don’t think we need throw the ‘baby out with the dishwater’.

The player we most need to keep hold of is Joe Olowu from the current squad given the fact that as far as ‘we the supporters’ are concerned, the only way we are going to hang onto him is by offering him a contract as a league1 team with serious ambitions to ‘quickly’ become a Championship side is our only hope of hanging onto him.

Moly’s position, despite being under contract for another two years, still remains a tenuous one if we aren’t promoted this season.

Sterry, Maxwell, McGrath will ‘serve us well’ should we not get promoted but again, if any one of them is offered more money to play at a higher division they’re more likely to go than stay.

Joe & Billy may well be agreeable to stay if we miss out on promotion but given their age & impact this season could we not do better & most certainly if we are promoted we would absolutely need to look to replace them surely?

The midfield needs addressing whether we get promoted or not.

We need more aggression in there, more nouse.

Joe & Billy have shown us that perhaps their best days are behind them be it either a division higher or this one. We need more height, more physicality, more pace.

No more waiting for Broadbent to become ‘the player we know is inside there’, no more Cliftons, Sbarra’s & Close’s.

We need to ‘move on’ promotion or not.

mpc123

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #32 on February 18, 2025, 12:21:30 am by mpc123 »
Funny isn't it, everybody wanted rid of Olowu last year. Now I wonder out of the list you want rid of next year is going to end up our best player. Molly was apparently rubbish a few weeks back.

I don't think any of us are managers.

Usher wide.

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #33 on February 18, 2025, 08:44:06 am by Usher wide. »
Funny isn't it, everybody wanted rid of Olowu last year. Now I wonder out of the list you want rid of next year is going to end up our best player. Molly was apparently rubbish a few weeks back.

I don't think any of us are managers.

So you’d keep Billy & Joe next season, bring Close with a year left on his contract back into the fold & persist with Broadbent, Sbarra & Clifton?

I’m not the manager, just a supporter with an opinion trying to react to what I’m seeing on the pitch & wondering if we’re coped to push on to our dream of playing & competing in Lg1 next to the extent where we’re in with a chance of promotion to the Championship & I don’t happen to believe half a dozen of the squad would be up to that.

Just my thoughts.


GazLaz

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #34 on February 18, 2025, 09:06:10 am by GazLaz »
Funny isn't it, everybody wanted rid of Olowu last year. Now I wonder out of the list you want rid of next year is going to end up our best player. Molly was apparently rubbish a few weeks back.

I don't think any of us are managers.

I didn’t want rid of Olowu!!!!

i_ateallthepies

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #35 on February 18, 2025, 09:11:49 am by i_ateallthepies »
Who washes a baby in dishwater?...

Usher wide.

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #36 on February 18, 2025, 09:38:39 am by Usher wide. »
Funny isn't it, everybody wanted rid of Olowu last year. Now I wonder out of the list you want rid of next year is going to end up our best player. Molly was apparently rubbish a few weeks back.

I don't think any of us are managers.

I didn’t want rid of Olowu!!!!

No but you felt Mols had found his level in Lg1 & I quote “I could find better cheaper”.

So let’s not blow our own trumpet too loud.

GazLaz

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #37 on February 18, 2025, 10:01:19 am by GazLaz »
Funny isn't it, everybody wanted rid of Olowu last year. Now I wonder out of the list you want rid of next year is going to end up our best player. Molly was apparently rubbish a few weeks back.

I don't think any of us are managers.

I didn’t want rid of Olowu!!!!

No but you felt Mols had found his level in Lg1 & I quote “I could find better cheaper”.

So let’s not blow our own trumpet too loud.

I could certainly find a better player than Luke. The lads scored 23 league goals in 2 2/3 seasons with 13 assists. He’s looked good playing in a top 3 team over the last 12 months admittedly but prior to that, when the going was tough, he showed no signs of being a good player.

Hope he fires us to promotion and we can see where he ends up long term and how his career pans out. If I have an opinion on someone it’s not personal, I hope he does well and makes his money out of the game. It’s just what I think at the time. I get a wage out of football so I’ll keep giving my opinions till someone doesn’t want pay me for them any more. That’s when I may realise I’ve diverged too far away from the mark.

Usher wide.

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #38 on February 18, 2025, 01:06:44 pm by Usher wide. »
Funny isn't it, everybody wanted rid of Olowu last year. Now I wonder out of the list you want rid of next year is going to end up our best player. Molly was apparently rubbish a few weeks back.

I don't think any of us are managers.

I didn’t want rid of Olowu!!!!

No but you felt Mols had found his level in Lg1 & I quote “I could find better cheaper”.

So let’s not blow our own trumpet too loud.

I could certainly find a better player than Luke. The lads scored 23 league goals in 2 2/3 seasons with 13 assists. He’s looked good playing in a top 3 team over the last 12 months admittedly but prior to that, when the going was tough, he showed no signs of being a good player.

Hope he fires us to promotion and we can see where he ends up long term and how his career pans out. If I have an opinion on someone it’s not personal, I hope he does well and makes his money out of the game. It’s just what I think at the time. I get a wage out of football so I’ll keep giving my opinions till someone doesn’t want pay me for them any more. That’s when I may realise I’ve diverged too far away from the mark.

There’s always horse racing?

NickDRFC

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #39 on February 18, 2025, 01:15:23 pm by NickDRFC »
We will need a massive rebuild with more experienced players regardless of what division we are laying next year. In all positions.

Whichever division we find ourselves in next season (gawd forbid it’s this one), I don’t think we need throw the ‘baby out with the dishwater’.

The player we most need to keep hold of is Joe Olowu from the current squad given the fact that as far as ‘we the supporters’ are concerned, the only way we are going to hang onto him is by offering him a contract as a league1 team with serious ambitions to ‘quickly’ become a Championship side is our only hope of hanging onto him.

Moly’s position, despite being under contract for another two years, still remains a tenuous one if we aren’t promoted this season.

Sterry, Maxwell, McGrath will ‘serve us well’ should we not get promoted but again, if any one of them is offered more money to play at a higher division they’re more likely to go than stay.

Joe & Billy may well be agreeable to stay if we miss out on promotion but given their age & impact this season could we not do better & most certainly if we are promoted we would absolutely need to look to replace them surely?

The midfield needs addressing whether we get promoted or not.

We need more aggression in there, more nouse.

Joe & Billy have shown us that perhaps their best days are behind them be it either a division higher or this one. We need more height, more physicality, more pace.

No more waiting for Broadbent to become ‘the player we know is inside there’, no more Cliftons, Sbarra’s & Close’s.

We need to ‘move on’ promotion or not.

So last week Joe Ironside was the best in the league at holding ball up and now he’s past it? Bit of a turnaround.

Pancho Regan

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #40 on February 18, 2025, 02:09:14 pm by Pancho Regan »
Funny isn't it, everybody wanted rid of Olowu last year. Now I wonder out of the list you want rid of next year is going to end up our best player. Molly was apparently rubbish a few weeks back.

I don't think any of us are managers.

I didn’t want rid of Olowu!!!!

Me neither! Nor did I think Moly was rubbish!

GazLaz, you mention that Moly has looked good playing in a top-3 team over the last 12 months, but I'd flip that around and suggest we are a top-3 team largely thanks to Moly's excellent form over that 12 months.

We're a bit of a puzzle to me this season.

The general view (including mine) is that our defence has probably been the best part of the team, and yet we've conceded more goals than any other top-7 side.
Another feeling sometimes expressed is that we're not good enough in the final third, we don't hurt the opposition enough and our strikers lack the required quality, and yet we've had more shots this season than any other team in League Two, and only 4 teams have scored more goals than we have.

I think we've failed to dominate enough games and have rarely put the opposition to the sword. The midfield is where we're lacking in my opinion - we rarely control this area of the pitch and get turned over too easily. That was certainly the case against Grimsby, and I don't like to single out a particular player but I felt Charlie Crew looked like a little boy lost at times.

Anyway, 15 games to go and plenty of points to be won.
Let's get back to winning ways, starting tonight.




Barmby Rover

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #41 on February 18, 2025, 06:51:02 pm by Barmby Rover »
TSL

Our 6 best players were all here last year.

The back 4, Bailey and Molyneux

Ironside should also be playing every week from the start

Good grief, our goal difference would be -26 or so then, if he played for 30 games he might have scored two or three times.

dickos1

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #42 on February 19, 2025, 07:46:25 am by dickos1 »
Funny isn't it, everybody wanted rid of Olowu last year. Now I wonder out of the list you want rid of next year is going to end up our best player. Molly was apparently rubbish a few weeks back.

I don't think any of us are managers.

I didn’t want rid of Olowu!!!!

No but you felt Mols had found his level in Lg1 & I quote “I could find better cheaper”.

So let’s not blow our own trumpet too loud.

I could certainly find a better player than Luke. The lads scored 23 league goals in 2 2/3 seasons with 13 assists. He’s looked good playing in a top 3 team over the last 12 months admittedly but prior to that, when the going was tough, he showed no signs of being a good player.

Hope he fires us to promotion and we can see where he ends up long term and how his career pans out. If I have an opinion on someone it’s not personal, I hope he does well and makes his money out of the game. It’s just what I think at the time. I get a wage out of football so I’ll keep giving my opinions till someone doesn’t want pay me for them any more. That’s when I may realise I’ve diverged too far away from the mark.

Pretty evident to me that McCann has got the best out of molyneux, like he’s done with lots of players, especially in that position.
This season he’s up there with the best players in the division and looked very good playing against players of a much higher level.

dickos1

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #43 on February 19, 2025, 05:35:05 pm by dickos1 »
Moly and McGrath , not sure about who else,  some of the other signings must've had a CV put together by a Labour MP

He didn’t sign moly

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #44 on February 19, 2025, 06:01:36 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Seems on a lot of threads we’re talking down our players and saying s rebuild is needed. It’s not the case this is down to management and I’m a huge fan of GM. This season he’s not got it right though. We’re still in the mix because we’ve got good players.

The club gave Grant everything he asked for or could reasonably expect in L2. He’s not got it right often enough and has wasted some expensive resources who were signed/ offered extensions only to hardly feature.

Let’s not do anything stupid either way I’d still back grant to get it right but let’s not get on the players backs they were good enough in ten summer and still are

streathamdave

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Re: 2024/25 Signings
« Reply #45 on February 20, 2025, 11:13:29 am by streathamdave »
Not really a case of talking our players down, but let's look at things slightly differently. I don't think anyone could realistically argue that we are strong enough in central midfield, less so if you take out our young loanees in that area. We are crying out for an hard as nails experienced pro in that area. I'm not talking a thug by the way, but someone who can put well timed firm tackles in and can help to direct play. For a decent squad we need 4 fit competing central defenders. Mcgrath and Olowu take up 2 of those positions. I'd like to see Faulkner back in the fold as our 4th cental defender giving him time to develop into the player I think he can still be. That leaves the question for me of Anderson/Wood or someone new. for the rotate in and out as needed central defender. Hopefully Oram turns into a good Keeper, but Lawlor and a loan Keeper is not the answer. I would have no issue with us signing TSL or TLT perm if either was made available but most likely neither will be. Jamal Blackman would be a realistic signing who would be an upgrade on Lawlor. Most of our creativity out wide comes from Molyneux, Sterry and when fit Maxwell. Full back is probably my area of least concern when it comes to our squad, but that doesn't mean I'm totally happy with it. We need another wide man to compete with Gibson assuming that Hurst is on his way out. Up top we need at least 3 target men types. Billy isn't what he was but he's still scoring and I wouldn't be adverse to giving him one final year. Ironside's main attribute seems to be his hold up play, but I want a player who is ours (not a loanee) to be able to compete with them. Not quite the target man, but I want to see more what Sbarra brings to the table, because right now I simply don't know.  Regardless of the division we find ourselves in (and I hope it is league 1) we need a minimum of 5 new players inthe squad to strengthen the spine and give competition. Developing a squad takes time and I feel Mccann is the right man and will get it right.

 

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