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drfchound

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Re: Referee
« Reply #30 on February 15, 2025, 08:07:45 pm by drfchound »
I know that some refs like to let things go early in the game, not getting the cards out for shirt pulling and time wasting etc.
However i do think that they could put a marker down early for things like time wasting or niggly fouls and that tells the players they are not going to stand for it.
The bloke today let too much go unpunished early on and so the players took advantage of his weakness.



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Padge_DRFC

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Re: Referee
« Reply #31 on February 15, 2025, 08:45:14 pm by Padge_DRFC »
He was pretty poor but for both sides. Several times he was conned by players throwing themselves to the ground

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« Reply #32 on February 15, 2025, 09:59:33 pm by danumdon »
There were 10 substitutions in the game, countless players going down injured and plenty of time wasting from their keeper, can someone tell me how that equates to 6 mins of extra time?

Absolutely useless. Its like all the time wasting means nothing, why can they never get this right?

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« Reply #33 on February 15, 2025, 10:06:09 pm by Padge_DRFC »
There were 10 substitutions in the game, countless players going down injured and plenty of time wasting from their keeper, can someone tell me how that equates to 6 mins of extra time?

Absolutely useless. Its like all the time wasting means nothing, why can they never get this right?

Then blew on 96 bang on after a good 2 minutes of time wasting in stoppage time too

danumdon

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Re: Referee
« Reply #34 on February 15, 2025, 10:13:33 pm by danumdon »
There were 10 substitutions in the game, countless players going down injured and plenty of time wasting from their keeper, can someone tell me how that equates to 6 mins of extra time?

Absolutely useless. Its like all the time wasting means nothing, why can they never get this right?

Then blew on 96 bang on after a good 2 minutes of time wasting in stoppage time too

And what really boils my pi** is when he waited for the goalie to put the ball down and kick it so he could blow the whistle, i've never understood why this has to happen, could he not just blow before the keeper kicked the bloody thing! Just what does it achieve, the players are already in the middle of the pitch.

Its like the rule where a keeper can fetch the ball back from the right hand side of the goal and place it on the 6 yard line on the left, just what is the point of that, why can't they just take the kick from whichever side it goes out like they used to? would have saved about 3 mins today.

drfchound

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« Reply #35 on February 15, 2025, 11:52:09 pm by drfchound »
There were 10 substitutions in the game, countless players going down injured and plenty of time wasting from their keeper, can someone tell me how that equates to 6 mins of extra time?

Absolutely useless. Its like all the time wasting means nothing, why can they never get this right?

Then blew on 96 bang on after a good 2 minutes of time wasting in stoppage time too

And what really boils my pi** is when he waited for the goalie to put the ball down and kick it so he could blow the whistle, i've never understood why this has to happen, could he not just blow before the keeper kicked the bloody thing! Just what does it achieve, the players are already in the middle of the pitch.

Its like the rule where a keeper can fetch the ball back from the right hand side of the goal and place it on the 6 yard line on the left, just what is the point of that, why can't they just take the kick from whichever side it goes out like they used to? would have saved about 3 mins today.

The ironic thing about that goal kick rule is that it was brought in to speed up getting the ball back in play.
What about when the keeper jogged to half way to take a free kick then changed his mind and went back while another player took the kick.

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Re: Referee
« Reply #36 on February 16, 2025, 10:30:42 am by andyst79 »
There were 10 substitutions in the game, countless players going down injured and plenty of time wasting from their keeper, can someone tell me how that equates to 6 mins of extra time?

Absolutely useless. Its like all the time wasting means nothing, why can they never get this right?

For me this is something the Fa or FIFA need to look at, why not just have a stop watch that stops every time the ball is inactive for whatever reason? Would just cut out any unnecessary time wasting surely? There's a lot of pressure on referees and what I will say is that personally I find it easier to spot things high up  in the stands as opposed to pitch level or in game with bodies running across you etc. Maybe it would be beneficial to have another official up in the stands to help coordinate with the on field officials?
Other sports like rugby , cricket for example the level of officiating seems far more advanced especially with the help of technology.

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« Reply #37 on February 16, 2025, 03:29:17 pm by danumdon »
There were 10 substitutions in the game, countless players going down injured and plenty of time wasting from their keeper, can someone tell me how that equates to 6 mins of extra time?

Absolutely useless. Its like all the time wasting means nothing, why can they never get this right?

For me this is something the Fa or FIFA need to look at, why not just have a stop watch that stops every time the ball is inactive for whatever reason? Would just cut out any unnecessary time wasting surely? There's a lot of pressure on referees and what I will say is that personally I find it easier to spot things high up  in the stands as opposed to pitch level or in game with bodies running across you etc. Maybe it would be beneficial to have another official up in the stands to help coordinate with the on field officials?
Other sports like rugby , cricket for example the level of officiating seems far more advanced especially with the help of technology.

Unfortunately football like life in general is being regulated to death by people who think they are making things better but conversely make everything worse. Not sure what it is with the football authorities but every time they make a change it just makes everything worse!

Less has always been more, football is a prime example of tinkering with a game causing it to become a very reduced spectical than what it was previously.

roversdude

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Re: Referee
« Reply #38 on February 17, 2025, 08:15:28 pm by roversdude »
Does the law governing how long a keeper can hold the ball for still exist?

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« Reply #39 on February 17, 2025, 10:53:17 pm by rich1471 »
Does the law governing how long a keeper can hold the ball for still exist?
It still stands ,but a trial in Italy u20 games will give the opposite team a corner if the goalie holds onto the ball too long, the referee should put his hand up as a count down for 5 seconds left.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2025, 11:00:18 pm by rich1471 »

karldew

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« Reply #40 on February 17, 2025, 10:59:10 pm by karldew »
Does the law governing how long a keeper can hold the ball for still exist?
I believe it changed from 8 seconds to a reasonable time allowed by the referee

6 second rule wasn’t it? Why they ever changed that I’ll never know. Sure Andy Williams use to count with his fingers in the air to make the referee aware of the seconds :lol:

drfchound

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« Reply #41 on February 17, 2025, 11:04:55 pm by drfchound »
Does the law governing how long a keeper can hold the ball for still exist?
I believe it changed from 8 seconds to a reasonable time allowed by the referee

6 second rule wasn’t it? Why they ever changed that I’ll never know. Sure Andy Williams use to count with his fingers in the air to make the referee aware of the seconds :lol:

I don’t remember Andy doing that Karl but I bet it didn’t make the refs do anything about it if the keepers didn’t get the ball back into play  quickly enough.

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« Reply #42 on February 18, 2025, 07:00:54 am by Donnywolf »
And don't forget the Keepers time doesn't start till he's holding the ball

That's why they stand for a minute ( maybe more ) until an opposition player comes towards them , and then they pick it up and the countdown "starts" or as we have decided seems to have been abandoned


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Re: Referee
« Reply #43 on February 18, 2025, 09:24:02 am by 5minstogo »
What happened to the long periods of added time we were having at the start of last season? At least then there was a consequence for time wasting

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« Reply #44 on February 18, 2025, 11:53:45 am by Jimmydee »
I look at these incidents in a different way because most supporters have a view from above, it’s a lot different from being at ground level for the officials, the same applies to the players, I often hear people around me that criticise the players for not passing to an unmarked player, we can see the unmarked player but it’s unlikely that the player with the ball can.
Also I hear people slagging off our players and deem them as effin useless, please be aware that we’re not in the premier league and paying ridiculous fees for skilled players, we’re in the fourth division.

drfchound

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« Reply #45 on February 18, 2025, 04:10:08 pm by drfchound »
I look at these incidents in a different way because most supporters have a view from above, it’s a lot different from being at ground level for the officials, the same applies to the players, I often hear people around me that criticise the players for not passing to an unmarked player, we can see the unmarked player but it’s unlikely that the player with the ball can.
Also I hear people slagging off our players and deem them as effin useless, please be aware that we’re not in the premier league and paying ridiculous fees for skilled players, we’re in the fourth division.

……..and those fourth division players are, in the main, many many times better than some of the people who are calling them useless.

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Re: Referee
« Reply #46 on February 22, 2025, 06:51:02 pm by andyst79 »
He was shocking today , unfortunately we're in a division where the standard of football and officiating are on par. What I will say is that we're seeming to find a way to win games and are doing away with unnecessary playing around at the back .

drfchound

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« Reply #47 on February 22, 2025, 07:08:15 pm by drfchound »
He was shocking today , unfortunately we're in a division where the standard of football and officiating are on par. What I will say is that we're seeming to find a way to win games and are doing away with unnecessary playing around at the back .

Yep, we have all heard the term “good teams find a way to win”.
It is notable isn’t it that we have quite a few fans who seem to look for things to criticise even when we win matches.

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« Reply #48 on February 22, 2025, 07:14:03 pm by GazLaz »
From a professional point of view, if I was in charge of a club, I ban any talk or thought of referees. They are what they are, you can’t affect how they referee games. Complete waste of energy taking about them.

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« Reply #49 on February 22, 2025, 07:34:44 pm by roversdude »
He was shocking today , unfortunately we're in a division where the standard of football and officiating are on par. What I will say is that we're seeming to find a way to win games and are doing away with unnecessary playing around at the back .

Yep, we have all heard the term “good teams find a way to win”.
It is notable isn’t it that we have quite a few fans who seem to look for things to criticise even when we win matches.

And a few who only appear when we lose

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« Reply #50 on February 22, 2025, 09:53:58 pm by Padge_DRFC »
What happened to the long periods of added time we were having at the start of last season? At least then there was a consequence for time wasting

Pep and Klopp cried about it.

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« Reply #51 on February 22, 2025, 09:58:58 pm by Bentley Bullet »
The fourth official announced 7 minutes of added time today, and the referee played 10.

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« Reply #52 on February 22, 2025, 10:06:18 pm by NickDRFC »
The fourth official announced 7 minutes of added time today, and the referee played 10.

Was there anything that could have justified playing that much extra? Given it’s a minimum added time, any injuries/subs/stoppages that meant play had to carry on an extra 2 mins?

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« Reply #53 on February 22, 2025, 10:07:37 pm by glosterred »
We made 2 subs and a booking for wasting time

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« Reply #54 on February 22, 2025, 10:12:37 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
Yeah it took TSL a good minute to take one kick, fine to add it on.  A shame other refs haven't been doing it.

I think we've been hard done by this season by refs, hopefully our luck will come when it matters.

The red was just a 60-40 in favour of red for me, just a bit reckless. But I also thought their guy was very lucky to only get yellow for lashing out. Bar that I thought the referee was alright.

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« Reply #55 on February 23, 2025, 07:08:26 am by Donnywolf »
60 40 Red. He gave Ref a decision to make as the Pundits say

100 0 Red when Whalley booted Sterry. Gave Lino a decision to make it seems. Ref was as close to both but abdicated responsibility on this judgement

40 - 60 that Street fouled their Keeper early doors. For me it was entirely the other was round

100 0 correct to Yellow Card Street for dissent a few minutes later

0 100 for ignoring several ( not just 1 or 2 ) Stanley players for dissent equal to the Street dissent which it seemed did not warrant same punishment. There were waved arms , getting in his face and straight forward "pointing" at him

100 0 inconsistent

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« Reply #56 on February 23, 2025, 07:22:26 am by rich1471 »
60 40 Red. He gave Ref a decision to make as the Pundits say

100 0 Red when Whalley booted Sterry. Gave Lino a decision to make it seems. Ref was as close to both but abdicated responsibility on this judgement

40 - 60 that Street fouled their Keeper early doors. For me it was entirely the other was round

100 0 correct to Yellow Card Street for dissent a few minutes later

0 100 for ignoring several ( not just 1 or 2 ) Stanley players for dissent equal to the Street dissent which it seemed did not warrant same punishment. There were waved arms , getting in his face and straight forward "pointing" at him

100 0 inconsistent
when street was through on goal he gave it for handball not a foul on the keeper was in the seats it was a handball

Donnywolf

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« Reply #57 on February 23, 2025, 09:35:55 am by Donnywolf »
Cheers ... didn't spot that and glad to be corrected.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Referee
« Reply #58 on February 23, 2025, 09:43:35 am by idler »
What was Bailey booked for?

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« Reply #59 on February 23, 2025, 09:49:35 am by andysly »
Wearing a white shirt

 

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