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danumdon

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #30 on February 15, 2025, 10:07:18 pm by danumdon »
You know it would be nice to see GM finally decide who his first choice players are, build a game plan for the team to play to(one that doesn't changer every game) and go out and give his first choice team time to gel by playing together and refining a style of play.

If we are to spend the rest of the season tinkering with our side to nullify the opposition at the expense of playing to our strengths and letting them worry about us i think many fans are ready to explode!!

We are never able to build an attacking style and a formation to play because it changes every game to suite every change.

Frustrating is just not quite powerful enough a word!



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mpc123

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #31 on February 15, 2025, 10:25:12 pm by mpc123 »
I get that and feel that too. Yet I think that could be any supporter of any football club.


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Re: Gibson
« Reply #32 on February 16, 2025, 12:18:01 am by dickos1 »
What are his strengths? I imagine they’re similar to molyneux?
Well according to GM him & Molly are the best two wingers in the league, (his words not mine! )so you'd think we'd want to get the ball forward early to either him or Molly into wide areas and let them have a go at either full back 1 on 1 for starters wouldn't you?!

Yes!
So it seems to be working for one player but not the other. Therefore it’s obviously not down to the manager not playing to Gibson’s strengths

andyst79

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #33 on February 16, 2025, 08:32:09 am by andyst79 »
Tbf , Gibbsons not been afforded the faith that Molly's had from the manager. Molly's form fell off a cliff around Xmas (doesn't help when teams are doubling up on him admittedly) He could have quite easily have been dropped with no argument but the faith and prolonged run in the team served him well and he repaid the faith with a massive return to form. Unfortunately Gibbson or Hurst have not been afforded such luxury and a bang average loanee seems preferred which I find disappointing. What I will say though is that Molly's work rate out of possession is top drawer and maybe the other 2 need to look at this as an example

DRFCTom

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #34 on February 16, 2025, 09:02:46 am by DRFCTom »
Tbf , Gibbsons not been afforded the faith that Molly's had from the manager. Molly's form fell off a cliff around Xmas (doesn't help when teams are doubling up on him admittedly) He could have quite easily have been dropped with no argument but the faith and prolonged run in the team served him well and he repaid the faith with a massive return to form. Unfortunately Gibbson or Hurst have not been afforded such luxury and a bang average loanee seems preferred which I find disappointing. What I will say though is that Molly's work rate out of possession is top drawer and maybe the other 2 need to look at this as an example

You just answered your own question, it’s the work rate. Whatever game LM is having he never gives up and always puts a shift in, the same can’t be said for Gibson and hurst unfortunately which is what Grant will be seeing

andyst79

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #35 on February 16, 2025, 10:00:25 am by andyst79 »
Tbf , Gibbsons not been afforded the faith that Molly's had from the manager. Molly's form fell off a cliff around Xmas (doesn't help when teams are doubling up on him admittedly) He could have quite easily have been dropped with no argument but the faith and prolonged run in the team served him well and he repaid the faith with a massive return to form. Unfortunately Gibbson or Hurst have not been afforded such luxury and a bang average loanee seems preferred which I find disappointing. What I will say though is that Molly's work rate out of possession is top drawer and maybe the other 2 need to look at this as an example

You just answered your own question, it’s the work rate. Whatever game LM is having he never gives up and always puts a shift in, the same can’t be said for Gibson and hurst unfortunately which is what Grant will be seeing
Why's he signed Gibbson then and told him he's the best left winger in the league?

redarmi66

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #36 on February 16, 2025, 10:10:34 am by redarmi66 »
Tbf , Gibbsons not been afforded the faith that Molly's had from the manager. Molly's form fell off a cliff around Xmas (doesn't help when teams are doubling up on him admittedly) He could have quite easily have been dropped with no argument but the faith and prolonged run in the team served him well and he repaid the faith with a massive return to form. Unfortunately Gibbson or Hurst have not been afforded such luxury and a bang average loanee seems preferred which I find disappointing. What I will say though is that Molly's work rate out of possession is top drawer and maybe the other 2 need to look at this as an example

You just answered your own question, it’s the work rate. Whatever game LM is having he never gives up and always puts a shift in, the same can’t be said for Gibson and hurst unfortunately which is what Grant will be seeing
Why's he signed Gibbson then and told him he's the best left winger in the league?

Its just another man management tactic. If he truly was the best winger he would play every single game. Like Moly does.

andyst79

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #37 on February 16, 2025, 10:17:19 am by andyst79 »
Tbf , Gibbsons not been afforded the faith that Molly's had from the manager. Molly's form fell off a cliff around Xmas (doesn't help when teams are doubling up on him admittedly) He could have quite easily have been dropped with no argument but the faith and prolonged run in the team served him well and he repaid the faith with a massive return to form. Unfortunately Gibbson or Hurst have not been afforded such luxury and a bang average loanee seems preferred which I find disappointing. What I will say though is that Molly's work rate out of possession is top drawer and maybe the other 2 need to look at this as an example

You just answered your own question, it’s the work rate. Whatever game LM is having he never gives up and always puts a shift in, the same can’t be said for Gibson and hurst unfortunately which is what Grant will be seeing
Why's he signed Gibbson then and told him he's the best left winger in the league?

Its just another man management tactic. If he truly was the best winger he would play every single game. Like Moly does.
Agreed but don't come out and say it publicly keep it in house. Just making himself look stupid with these comments

ForsolongaRover

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #38 on February 16, 2025, 10:36:09 am by ForsolongaRover »
I can understand why, if you accept the proposition, you blame the player, but recruitment is about selecting the right players followed by coaching, motivation and management to develop them and integrate them into a team strategy.

If, in some peoples’ views he has not improved, perhaps we should question why such development has not been successful either.
 

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #39 on February 16, 2025, 11:29:30 am by steve@dcfd »
Tbf , Gibbsons not been afforded the faith that Molly's had from the manager. Molly's form fell off a cliff around Xmas (doesn't help when teams are doubling up on him admittedly) He could have quite easily have been dropped with no argument but the faith and prolonged run in the team served him well and he repaid the faith with a massive return to form. Unfortunately Gibbson or Hurst have not been afforded such luxury and a bang average loanee seems preferred which I find disappointing. What I will say though is that Molly's work rate out of possession is top drawer and maybe the other 2 need to look at this as an example

You just answered your own question, it’s the work rate. Whatever game LM is having he never gives up and always puts a shift in, the same can’t be said for Gibson and hurst unfortunately which is what Grant will be seeing
Why's he signed Gibbson then and told him he's the best left winger in the league?
He’s said that before about other young forwards especially wingers but they are not. He has good skills but try’s to beat to many players he believes in the hype that Grant said about him.

edlored

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #40 on February 16, 2025, 11:49:17 am by edlored »
Whoever thought he's a good winger I'll never know no pace and walks around like he can't be arsed

ForsolongaRover

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #41 on February 16, 2025, 03:22:21 pm by ForsolongaRover »
Whoever thought he's a good winger I'll never know no pace and walks around like he can't be arsed

It was McCann who took this view.

andyst79

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #42 on February 23, 2025, 11:29:55 am by andyst79 »
What are his strengths? I imagine they’re similar to molyneux?
Well according to GM him & Molly are the best two wingers in the league, (his words not mine! )so you'd think we'd want to get the ball forward early to either him or Molly into wide areas and let them have a go at either full back 1 on 1 for starters wouldn't you?!

Prime example there yesterday of playing to his strengths and letting him have a go 1 on 1. Yes he can be frustrating at times I understand this but hopefully he can keep improving.

Padge_DRFC

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #43 on February 23, 2025, 11:37:20 am by Padge_DRFC »
Gibson is the best left winger on his day. Technically very good on the ball.

GazLaz

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« Reply #44 on February 23, 2025, 12:00:52 pm by GazLaz »
To score goals you need a certain level of creativity in the team. Gibson offers that. He’s not the best off the ball but if he doesn’t play we are likely to create less.

danumdon

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« Reply #45 on February 23, 2025, 12:08:56 pm by danumdon »
There's certainly a player in Gibson, its just been very unfortunate for us that we have struggled to get him firing, The buildup to the first goal yesterday demonstrates what can be achieved but at the same time all the rest of his crosses and passes struggle to hit the mark, it looked like nothing would go for him prior to and after the goal.

Not sure if its a confidence or attitude thing but we've had him all season and it only comes in fits and starts, some decent man management required to get to the bottom of this.

There's a player in there, desperate to be unleashed.

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #46 on February 23, 2025, 12:10:12 pm by Chris Black come back »
If Broadbent can get his act together on a more consistent basis then we've filled the problem spot of the defensive screen. That allows Bailey to get further forward where he is much better. We need to stop f**king around with the wide players. We are now getting into the run in so McCann needs to be starting Molyneux and Gibson every game. Street straight through the middle with Ironside and Sharp on the bench as options.

andyst79

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #47 on February 23, 2025, 12:17:28 pm by andyst79 »
If Broadbent can get his act together on a more consistent basis then we've filled the problem spot of the defensive screen. That allows Bailey to get further forward where he is much better. We need to stop f**king around with the wide players. We are now getting into the run in so McCann needs to be starting Molyneux and Gibson every game. Street straight through the middle with Ironside and Sharp on the bench as options.
Broadbent was very good yesterday, was it just me or did he seem 1/2 a yard quicker as well?!

danumdon

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #48 on February 23, 2025, 12:30:00 pm by danumdon »
If Broadbent can get his act together on a more consistent basis then we've filled the problem spot of the defensive screen. That allows Bailey to get further forward where he is much better. We need to stop f**king around with the wide players. We are now getting into the run in so McCann needs to be starting Molyneux and Gibson every game. Street straight through the middle with Ironside and Sharp on the bench as options.
Broadbent was very good yesterday, was it just me or did he seem 1/2 a yard quicker as well?!

Amazing what some game time can give you.

Continuity and building some understanding are others.

roversdude

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« Reply #49 on February 23, 2025, 01:16:19 pm by roversdude »
Broadbent has looked good all season in my opinion - been unlucky to be in and out of the team.
Gibson very good on his day just need to make sure the day is more often

GazLaz

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #50 on February 23, 2025, 01:16:57 pm by GazLaz »
If Broadbent can get his act together on a more consistent basis then we've filled the problem spot of the defensive screen. That allows Bailey to get further forward where he is much better. We need to stop f**king around with the wide players. We are now getting into the run in so McCann needs to be starting Molyneux and Gibson every game. Street straight through the middle with Ironside and Sharp on the bench as options.
Broadbent was very good yesterday, was it just me or did he seem 1/2 a yard quicker as well?!

Amazing what some game time can give you.

Continuity and building some understanding are others.

Broadbent has had decent games but he’s just massively inconsistent I think. Really no help being good once every three games, especially when you play in that position.

danumdon

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #51 on February 23, 2025, 01:51:38 pm by danumdon »
If Broadbent can get his act together on a more consistent basis then we've filled the problem spot of the defensive screen. That allows Bailey to get further forward where he is much better. We need to stop f**king around with the wide players. We are now getting into the run in so McCann needs to be starting Molyneux and Gibson every game. Street straight through the middle with Ironside and Sharp on the bench as options.
Broadbent was very good yesterday, was it just me or did he seem 1/2 a yard quicker as well?!

Amazing what some game time can give you.

Continuity and building some understanding are others.

Broadbent has had decent games but he’s just massively inconsistent I think. Really no help being good once every three games, especially when you play in that position.

Welcome to fourth tier football.

I'm, looking at our squad list and weighing up what alternatives we currently have.

I maybe some time!

Ian Nimmo

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #52 on February 23, 2025, 04:31:22 pm by Ian Nimmo »
He made a good pass for the first goal, but then missed an absolute sitter.
Yes as others have said, very good on his day, but we have not seen many days.
Off the ball, he’s terrible with very low work rate, and his body language his shocking.
We need players to give everything, so on performances so far, would prefer someone else in starting lineup.

andyst79

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« Reply #53 on February 23, 2025, 04:48:11 pm by andyst79 »
He made a good pass for the first goal, but then missed an absolute sitter.
Yes as others have said, very good on his day, but we have not seen many days.
Off the ball, he’s terrible with very low work rate, and his body language his shocking.
We need players to give everything, so on performances so far, would prefer someone else in starting lineup.
Think he gets harshly judged , granted his work rate isn't as good as Molly's but Molly is top drawer at what he does out of possession. Gibson reminds me a bit of Chris Waddle in the respect he sometimes looks lazy or disinterested but he does his fair share for me.

GazLaz

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #54 on February 23, 2025, 05:24:05 pm by GazLaz »
Just done a comparison on Gibson and Molys defensive contributions this season. You’d be surprised how similar they are.

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #55 on February 23, 2025, 05:53:31 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
If Broadbent can get his act together on a more consistent basis then we've filled the problem spot of the defensive screen. That allows Bailey to get further forward where he is much better. We need to stop f**king around with the wide players. We are now getting into the run in so McCann needs to be starting Molyneux and Gibson every game. Street straight through the middle with Ironside and Sharp on the bench as options.

I think you're right there. The more I think about this, I think McCann will set up to hit hard early in each game, going all out attack to hopefully get one or two up and then defend for our lives using mesters tactics to see the game through.

If only it were that simple but I think that front three of Gibson, Street and Moly seem to be the preferred set up. He's maybe made his mind up that Clifton is the best choice for the more advanced midfield berth along with Bailey making making late runs.

Broadbent got the nod over Crew which is  fair, if he thinks about opponents being more physical than a passing team.

Maybe after that, content to soak up pressure and go long to catch teams on the break.

It's probably no coincidence the last two games have followed this pattern.

I'm sure we would love to see Crew on the pitch helping us to play more on the deck and play through the lines. That may come at some point but maybe Broadbent  has a more physical edge.

It's easy to look at Broadbent similar to Olowu was, when we say he's good but he's got a mistake in him. Well, maybe some players can get away with it and some can't 

Let's hope both Gibson and Broadbent finish the season strong. 

drfchound

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #56 on March 05, 2025, 09:59:58 am by drfchound »
Gibbo now showing that he can become a valuable player for us.
I thought that last night and in the two previous matches he has got his confidence back and some of his attacking skills are coming through.
He just needs a goal and I reckon he will go on a bit of a scoring spree.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2025, 01:26:51 pm by drfchound »

GazLaz

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #57 on March 05, 2025, 11:16:10 am by GazLaz »
He’s the only one that can beat a man with a bit of skill and pace. We need to get the ball to him more in games like last night. He was really good again.

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #58 on March 05, 2025, 12:38:39 pm by jmt23 »
Not a chance Gaz, I know you’re not keen on Molly but blimey, Moly has just as much if not  more pace and just as much skill. I do like Jordan too by the way.

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Re: Gibson
« Reply #59 on March 05, 2025, 12:53:09 pm by DRFCSouth »
He's taking some attention & pressure off of Molyneux when he's on form. Which is why I think we're seeing the best of Molyneux. The capability of using both wings is key.

 

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