Clifton

[andyst79]

Sorry I don't particularly like singling players out and like I've said in previous posts , you can't fault his work rate but god he's awful and I dare say we're paying him miles more than what we offered to Biggins  to stay

[colincramb]

Not sure on the comment regarding pay, no idea what biggins wanted/was offered to stay versus what Clifton gets. But Biggins was a marginally more effective player in almost all departments other than possibly work rate.

IF we get out of this league, really not sure what he could offer in the league above. Gives his all but that’s probably not enough. Strange signing really

[Nudga]

Another one GazLaz got right.

[rich1471]

Clifton wins the ball and gives us some grit in midfield,that's his job to break up play and win the ball

[drfchound]

Sorry I don't particularly like singling players out and like I've said in previous posts , you can't fault his work rate but god he's awful and I dare say we're paying him miles more than what we offered to Biggins  to stay

Totally different level but people said the same about players like Nobby Styles and David Batty but they were invaluable to their teams at the time.

[steve@dcfd]

Clifton worked hard covered all the the ground yes technically he’s not the right player but if we had taken our chance then Clifton would not had been singled out . On that pitch and that game he did what was required.

[Usher wide.]

Clifton, why?

Broadbent, why?

On a night when we’ve scraped a draw against a sh**e team (yes I know about being reduced to 10 men etc) I can’t for the life of me understand why Clifton gets a place in front of Billy or Joe.

Without that early press & a goal inside 5 minutes we again looked like a side struggling with its ‘identity’.

I’ll gladly take those 3 points but, it’s going to be a rollercoaster of a ride for the last fourteen games starting at Accrington on Saturday.

Let’s not get carried away by tonight.

[Usher wide.]

Another one GazLaz got right.

In a ‘civil partnership’ or long, lost brothers?

[andyst79]

Clifton worked hard covered all the the ground yes technically he’s not the right player but if we had taken our chance then Clifton would not had been singled out . On that pitch and that game he did what was required.

A difficult pitch and other players were equally unaafective but just doesn't tick many boxes for me and  not just on this showing. I'm just putting my opinion out there and happy to hear other's thoughts

[Cramby10]

He’s a nothing player. Offers nowt.

[ncRover]

Clifton, why?

Broadbent, why?

On a night when we’ve scraped a draw against a sh**e team (yes I know about being reduced to 10 men etc) I can’t for the life of me understand why Clifton gets a place in front of Billy or Joe.

Without that early press & a goal inside 5 minutes we again looked like a side struggling with its ‘identity’.

I’ll gladly take those 3 points but, it’s going to be a rollercoaster of a ride for the last fourteen games starting at Accrington on Saturday.

Let’s not get carried away by tonight.

Here we go again. Poor George Broadbent.
Did nothing wrong and pulled off some good passes we’d be praising Charlie Crew for.

[Ryaldinhio]

The issue is emotion is brought into it when watching usually driven by the commentary similar to boxing.

Morecambe had 1 shot on target in the whole game, which I think was 1st half......yet we were hanging on?????

It feels that way because of emotion but we weren't really hanging on were we?

[drfchound]

Clifton, why?

Broadbent, why?

On a night when we’ve scraped a draw against a sh**e team (yes I know about being reduced to 10 men etc) I can’t for the life of me understand why Clifton gets a place in front of Billy or Joe.

Without that early press & a goal inside 5 minutes we again looked like a side struggling with its ‘identity’.

I’ll gladly take those 3 points but, it’s going to be a rollercoaster of a ride for the last fourteen games starting at Accrington on Saturday.

Let’s not get carried away by tonight.

We didn’t scrape a draw though.
To be fair, we should have scored three or four goals tonight.
Not just the chances in the first half either, we had at least two glorious opportunities in the second half.
The last 25 minutes was always going to be backs to the wall after the sending off.

[andyst79]

Tbf I can understand why Broadbent played today. It was a difficult pitch, not one for the purists. I thought he did ok. Our defence was superb 2nd half and Senior was unlucky , was having a great game until he got sent off.

[Canadian Rover]

I think Clifton is a hard working, hard tackling midfielder that's ideal for us in this league. Gone are the days of Stock and Wellens!! A fully committed centre midfielder is a valuable asset in a team. He's not silky but he's our grafter and deserves more respect from our fans.

Put it this way gimme Clifton on a game like that vs Close any day off the week.

[Nudga]

Another one GazLaz got right.

In a ‘civil partnership’ or long, lost brothers?

Dafuq are you on about?

[Ryaldinhio]

I think Clifton is a hard working, hard tackling midfielder that's ideal for us in this league. Gone are the days of Stock and Wellens!! A fully committed centre midfielder is a valuable asset in a team. He's not silky but he's our grafter and deserves more respect from our fans.

Agree. L2 midfielder who suits where we are at the minute.

Let's get put of this league.

[andyst79]

I think Clifton is a hard working, hard tackling midfielder that's ideal for us in this league. Gone are the days of Stock and Wellens!! A fully committed centre midfielder is a valuable asset in a team. He's not silky but he's our grafter and deserves more respect from our fans.

He's not been played as a centre midfielder, that's the issue for me

[Padge_DRFC]

I don't even think he breaks up play much. Bailey is the best at that out of them all.

[dickos1]

Clifton, why?

Broadbent, why?

On a night when we’ve scraped a draw against a sh**e team (yes I know about being reduced to 10 men etc) I can’t for the life of me understand why Clifton gets a place in front of Billy or Joe.

Without that early press & a goal inside 5 minutes we again looked like a side struggling with its ‘identity’.

I’ll gladly take those 3 points but, it’s going to be a rollercoaster of a ride for the last fourteen games starting at Accrington on Saturday.

Let’s not get carried away by tonight.

Scraped a draw ?

[oggycompton]

Offers nothing, dont udnerstand it, but who do you put in that 10 role?

[sedwardsdrfc]

Don’t dislike him what he offers ever team needs. I have more issue with him been used as a 10 role. We really need someone who gets on the ball in that position not a workhorse.

[andyst79]

Don’t dislike him what he offers ever team needs. I have more issue with him been used as a 10 role. We really need someone who gets on the ball in that position not a workhorse.

Being able to put yourself about and work hard off the ball should be a given for any footballer , he seems a decent pro at L2 standard but we need someone more progressive at 10

[ncRover]

L2 is such a physical league with no time on the ball. Sbarra would have been eaten alive last night.
And even at the top level, attacking midfield players aren’t diminutive tricky types lacking in athleticism like they were in the 00s.
Pressing and winning the ball back high up the pitch so much more important nowadays.

[steve@dcfd]

No Clifton is not ideal as a 10. But I don’t see a player at the club who is an out and out 10. Sbarra technically good but gets run over by opposition midfield players. None of the three strikers Street Billy or Ironside could do the midfield duties of a 10. Kelly for me is not the player but the closest again easy knocked off the ball. So you with left with Molyneux but he more dangerous off right.
Last night the role required a work man like performer which Clifton gave that. Now if we had taken our 4 clear cut chances this debate would be irrelevant.

[TonySoprano]

Clifton, why?

Broadbent, why?

On a night when we’ve scraped a draw against a sh**e team (yes I know about being reduced to 10 men etc) I can’t for the life of me understand why Clifton gets a place in front of Billy or Joe.

Without that early press & a goal inside 5 minutes we again looked like a side struggling with its ‘identity’.

I’ll gladly take those 3 points but, it’s going to be a rollercoaster of a ride for the last fourteen games starting at Accrington on Saturday.

Let’s not get carried away by tonight.

Here we go again. Poor George Broadbent.
Did nothing wrong and pulled off some good passes we’d be praising Charlie Crew for.

Thing with broadbent, I think people are wanting him to be a Ben whiteman, which he certainly isn't.
He's a league 2 player, and doing ok for us.

[danumdon]

L2 is such a physical league with no time on the ball. Sbarra would have been eaten alive last night.
And even at the top level, attacking midfield players aren’t diminutive tricky types lacking in athleticism like they were in the 00s.
Pressing and winning the ball back high up the pitch so much more important nowadays.

Exactly right. Its not a coincidence that GM ensured he had his most robust players in that match last night. On that playing surface and against a team who may be at the bottom but fighting for their survival you need all hands to the pump.

It was always going to be a hard night, the very good start from us was always going to be pulled back but what we did was ensure they had to work very hard to even get a sniff of our goal.For all their possession and grunt TSL was very comfortable with his evenings work.

Its always going to be a battle at this stage of the season and relative form can mean nothing, we went to a place which was always going to be difficult and managed to come through with a good win and a precious clean sheet.

Clifton may look a bit industrial and lack the nous and skill of a Close but he's definitely our player who ticks the boxes in these type of battles.

[Move DRFC]

Hopefully we go up and bin off the plodders like Clifton Ironside Broadbent and hate to say it Sharp.

[ncRover]

Clifton, why?

Broadbent, why?

On a night when we’ve scraped a draw against a sh**e team (yes I know about being reduced to 10 men etc) I can’t for the life of me understand why Clifton gets a place in front of Billy or Joe.

Without that early press & a goal inside 5 minutes we again looked like a side struggling with its ‘identity’.

I’ll gladly take those 3 points but, it’s going to be a rollercoaster of a ride for the last fourteen games starting at Accrington on Saturday.

Let’s not get carried away by tonight.

Here we go again. Poor George Broadbent.
Did nothing wrong and pulled off some good passes we’d be praising Charlie Crew for.

Thing with broadbent, I think people are wanting him to be a Ben whiteman, which he certainly isn't.
He's a league 2 player, and doing ok for us.

I agree with your last sentence. But you’d think he was the midfield equivalent of Jordy Hiwula the way people go on about him on here and twitter.
He has to do a lot more than others to receive any credit and a lot less than others to receive any criticism.

[edlored]

Thing is with the recruitment we've not got many league one ready players so it's partial rebuild again