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ncRover

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Re: Sbarra
« Reply #30 on April 02, 2025, 01:02:23 pm by ncRover »
Special mention goes to Gibson for looking the most disinterested player to ever play in a big game. Not even giving him the assist for Sharps goal. It was behind him and at a sh!t height. Top class finish.

It was a good cross in the right area and he almost scored in the 1st half but their keeper made a good save.

Clifton can do some good things and has got on the end of things but he is limited what he can do with very little skill to match his endeavour. So yes, he is better than Sbarra on his showing in the last two games.

As said above, we've tried a number of players in that position but none have the all round qualities that would make the difference.

Kelly can run with the ball and ghost past players but he's not really someone who can put his foot on the ball and pick a pass. Very similar to Hurst going forward.

I think Crew and Ennis could do a job in there and might be worth a go.

Gibson can play there and has done for previous clubs.



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selby

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« Reply #31 on April 02, 2025, 01:33:38 pm by selby »
Sbarra had a bad game in possession especially his distribution but he must have been up there in the tackle count and interceptions which isn't as eye catching but just as important and he covers a lot of ground.

GazLaz

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« Reply #32 on April 02, 2025, 01:48:44 pm by GazLaz »
Sbarra had a bad game in possession especially his distribution but he must have been up there in the tackle count and interceptions which isn't as eye catching but just as important and he covers a lot of ground.

Bailey, Broadbent and Sbarra all had nearly identical pass completion %ages.

andyst79

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« Reply #33 on April 02, 2025, 02:35:11 pm by andyst79 »
We missed with the 3rdcentre midfielder role this season; from Kelly (who's got promise) to Crew who's what??? Close, Zain, Hurst, Sabara and Clifton (who I see as a good squad member) but all have lacked.
Westbrook looked lively earlier in the season and was very tidy on the ball, also has the ability to move the ball quickly so don't understand his current situation. Surely if there's a falling out he wouldn't even be making the bench ?!

Padge_DRFC

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« Reply #34 on April 02, 2025, 06:39:17 pm by Padge_DRFC »
39 league games in and this area is still a problem. Comment above further up about Kelly not picking out passes. Sbarra and Clifton don't do that either!

Sarge

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« Reply #35 on April 02, 2025, 07:18:32 pm by Sarge »
Look after my sisters dog a couple of times a year. A miniature Schnauzer, lovely little dog. Small, soft as anything and loves chasing a ball. Trouble is he’s no idea what to do with it if/when he gets it.


Reminds me very much of sbarra. Bet he’s a lovely lad, but for me he’s not up to the job and every time he starts, it’s like playing with 10 men.

There’s another 2 or 3 you could add to that that summary I may add, and I think this is where we could fall short, carrying to many players in games

steve@dcfd

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« Reply #36 on April 02, 2025, 07:26:50 pm by steve@dcfd »
Sbarra had a bad game in possession especially his distribution but he must have been up there in the tackle count and interceptions which isn't as eye catching but just as important and he covers a lot of ground.

Bailey, Broadbent and Sbarra all had nearly identical pass completion %ages.
But that is supposed be Sbarra strength because he doesn’t  tackle doesn’t close any opposing players down. He runs about but didn’t intercept the ball didn’t stop oppposing players from getting the ball.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2025, 07:30:01 pm by steve@dcfd »

Bills view

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« Reply #37 on April 02, 2025, 07:44:03 pm by Bills view »
I don't like criticising players as it's a team game but he does give the impression that he's doing more than he actually is.

If he was brought in for his vision and delivering killer balls and opening teams up in the vital final third then he falls short for me.

ForsolongaRover

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« Reply #38 on April 02, 2025, 08:04:23 pm by ForsolongaRover »
Sbarra had a bad game in possession especially his distribution but he must have been up there in the tackle count and interceptions which isn't as eye catching but just as important and he covers a lot of ground.

Bailey, Broadbent and Sbarra all had nearly identical pass completion %ages.
But that is supposed be Sbarra strength because he doesn’t  tackle doesn’t close any opposing players down. He runs about but didn’t intercept the ball didn’t stop oppposing players from getting the ball.


Sounds like Senior- sorry we're not discussing him are we - but he's possibly even worse, particularly as he's a defender. You could say that Bailey was the only rounded midfielder we have on the permanent staff. Why borrow Kelly and Crew and not use them? Clifton at least has power and directness. A man of Sbarra's stature needs above-average ball control or speed to compensate. I was truly surprised when it became apparent that he had neither.

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« Reply #39 on April 02, 2025, 09:50:54 pm by Cramby10 »
Sbarra had a bad game in possession especially his distribution but he must have been up there in the tackle count and interceptions which isn't as eye catching but just as important and he covers a lot of ground.
give over lad. You have to be on the wind up here. He couldn’t tackle a fish supper. He never got near an oppo player.

drfchound

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« Reply #40 on April 03, 2025, 09:37:30 am by drfchound »
Goals scored by our opponents have come from Gibson losing the ball or making a poor pass around halfway on several occasions recently.

GazLaz

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« Reply #41 on April 03, 2025, 10:37:17 am by GazLaz »
Goals scored by our opponents have come from Gibson losing the ball or making a poor pass around halfway on several occasions recently.

There were plenty of opportunity to stop the goal between him giving the ball away on the half way line and the header going in.

ForsolongaRover

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« Reply #42 on April 03, 2025, 12:50:35 pm by ForsolongaRover »
Goals scored by our opponents have come from Gibson losing the ball or making a poor pass around halfway on several occasions recently.

There were plenty of opportunity to stop the goal between him giving the ball away on the half way line and the header going in.

The pass to Gibson was not a good one in that a Walsall defender was in the best position to receive it with Gibson needing to take it from behind him, so it was not really even a 50-50 ball. The player who had the best chance to stop the resulting cross was Senior who who chose to stand off their winger rather than put in a tackle who then crossed the ball. He repeating what he had done a little earlier when the cross came to nothing, but this time the header was superbly directed inside TSL's right hand post. Senior doesn't seem to tackle and rarely passes the ball forwards, so his role is very limited to say the least.

drfchound

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« Reply #43 on April 03, 2025, 09:48:25 pm by drfchound »
Goals scored by our opponents have come from Gibson losing the ball or making a poor pass around halfway on several occasions recently.

There were plenty of opportunity to stop the goal between him giving the ball away on the half way line and the header going in.

I’m not disputing that Gaz but the point I made is still relevant.

Padge_DRFC

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« Reply #44 on April 03, 2025, 10:12:24 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Patrick Kelly must be kicking balls in to Sandall Beat Woods all week in training. Having watched Clifton and Sbarra contribution it's truly baffling. Clifton doesn't actually do much off the ball either. Often late and never wins the ball anyway.

Must be a rule to have only 1 risk taking player in the team and Gibson is getting that role at the minute.

Pancho Regan

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« Reply #45 on April 04, 2025, 08:16:20 am by Pancho Regan »
Quite a bit of criticism of Clifton on here which I think is unfair.
You certainly can't bracket him together with Sbarra in my opinion.

At least Clifton has some physicality about him and does get into dangerous positions.
And he has weighed in with League 5 goals this season.



Reg of the Rovers

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« Reply #46 on April 04, 2025, 08:37:26 am by Reg of the Rovers »
Clifton head and shoulders above Sbarra, who is absolutely dreadful. I cringe every time his name is on the team sheet.

Re No10 role Hurst was played there most of pre-season and looked very decent. Ironside also could surely do a role as a deep striker playing with either Sharp or Street. Why Grant can’t see this is a puzzle.

andysly

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« Reply #47 on April 04, 2025, 12:43:26 pm by andysly »
My issue with starting Clifton is his tackling. Always seems to collect a yellow then it’s tightrope time until he’s invariably hooked.
We have being under the cosh far too many games with going down to 10 maybe GMC is of a similar opinion in lowering the chances

Pancho Regan

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« Reply #48 on April 04, 2025, 01:01:52 pm by Pancho Regan »
My issue with starting Clifton is his tackling. Always seems to collect a yellow then it’s tightrope time until he’s invariably hooked.
We have being under the cosh far too many games with going down to 10 maybe GMC is of a similar opinion in lowering the chances

Yeah, at least we don't need to worry about Sbarra getting booked for a bad tackle!

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ForsolongaRover

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« Reply #49 on April 04, 2025, 01:50:09 pm by ForsolongaRover »
My issue with starting Clifton is his tackling. Always seems to collect a yellow then it’s tightrope time until he’s invariably hooked.
We have being under the cosh far too many games with going down to 10 maybe GMC is of a similar opinion in lowering the chances

It’s not just Clifton though is it? It’s not uncommon for us to pick two yellow cards in the first quarter. Refs used to be loth to book players early on, but more recently such leniency is not generally extended. It’s hardly something that management and analysts could overlook.

andysly

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« Reply #50 on April 04, 2025, 08:41:53 pm by andysly »
Agreed but other players do tend to tone things down a little, every time HC goes into a challenge it could be a booking

andysly

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« Reply #51 on April 05, 2025, 02:35:21 pm by andysly »
How many of us wanted him to go to the corner instead of shooting for that 2nd goal.
Good lad

The Beast

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« Reply #52 on April 05, 2025, 02:43:01 pm by The Beast »
Lucky he didn’t get sent off , should’ve been booked before his booking, clever foul but lucky to get away with it .

Padge_DRFC

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« Reply #53 on April 05, 2025, 02:55:31 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Good of McCann to play with 10 men and even it up today bringing on Clifton and Sbarra

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« Reply #54 on April 05, 2025, 03:16:50 pm by Canadian Rover »
Good of McCann to play with 10 men and even it up today bringing on Clifton and Sbarra

I don't get it. I don't understand the negativity towards our own players in a title/promotion run in.

Let alone one where Sbara got an assist for the 2nd.


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« Reply #55 on April 05, 2025, 03:31:38 pm by Usher wide. »
Good of McCann to play with 10 men and even it up today bringing on Clifton and Sbarra

I don't get it. I don't understand the negativity towards our own players in a title/promotion run in.

Let alone one where Sbara got an assist for the 2nd.

Does it count as an assist when the goalkeeper parries his shot away?

Not that it matters because we have Street who runs for all ‘lost causes’ where others may have let it go out for a corner he whips in a goal from a tight angle.


drfchound

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« Reply #56 on April 05, 2025, 06:55:22 pm by drfchound »
Good of McCann to play with 10 men and even it up today bringing on Clifton and Sbarra

I don't get it. I don't understand the negativity towards our own players in a title/promotion run in.

Let alone one where Sbara got an assist for the 2nd.

Does it count as an assist when the goalkeeper parries his shot away?

Not that it matters because we have Street who runs for all ‘lost causes’ where others may have let it go out for a corner he whips in a goal from a tight angle.

It doesn’t count as an assist when the keeper stops a shot and someone scores from the rebound.
Crazy isn’t it.

RoversInSpain

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« Reply #57 on April 05, 2025, 08:04:49 pm by RoversInSpain »
Thank god another Joe missed the easiest chance to score that I’ve ever seen.
No Ironside thread then??, Sbarra has been fantastic compared to this Joe this season.
Weird isn’t it?

rich1471

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« Reply #58 on April 05, 2025, 08:20:03 pm by rich1471 »
Thank god another Joe missed the easiest chance to score that I’ve ever seen.
No Ironside thread then??, Sbarra has been fantastic compared to this Joe this season.
Weird isn’t it?
how ironside missed the goal was unbelievable one of the worst I have seen

drfchound

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« Reply #59 on April 05, 2025, 08:39:40 pm by drfchound »
Thank god another Joe missed the easiest chance to score that I’ve ever seen.
No Ironside thread then??, Sbarra has been fantastic compared to this Joe this season.
Weird isn’t it?
how ironside missed the goal was unbelievable one of the worst I have seen

Anyone who has ever played regularly as a striker will have missed a chance like that.
It happens.

 

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