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Bessie Red

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #90 on April 05, 2025, 05:54:08 pm by Bessie Red »
Poor performance but I'll definitely take the 3 points. We just don't seem to create much and I thought we'd never score. Red card probably just swung it for us. Been said before but we HAVE to finish top 3 as I honestly don't fancy us to beat anybody over 2 legs on that showing. Ref was awful again but Cheltenham never really threatened. Another tricky game chalked off and onwards we go. :rtid:

Don’t create much.?  We had 18 shots away from home today..
And we've scored the joint second most goals in the league!



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« Reply #91 on April 05, 2025, 05:54:25 pm by colincramb »
Just got to take each game as it comes now. I’m convinced though we have to beat Wimbledon next week if we are to go up. I honestly think if we do that we will make it. We probably need 3 wins and a draw from our last 6 games

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« Reply #92 on April 05, 2025, 05:54:55 pm by GazLaz »
Didn't like the dogs abuse Gibson was getting.   

Such an easy target. The only bit of quality prior to the goal came from him when he hit the post. Inches away from a wonder goal.

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« Reply #93 on April 05, 2025, 06:05:13 pm by drfchound »
Poor performance but I'll definitely take the 3 points. We just don't seem to create much and I thought we'd never score. Red card probably just swung it for us. Been said before but we HAVE to finish top 3 as I honestly don't fancy us to beat anybody over 2 legs on that showing. Ref was awful again but Cheltenham never really threatened. Another tricky game chalked off and onwards we go. :rtid:

Don’t create much.?  We had 18 shots away from home today..
And we've scored the joint second most goals in the league!

Yep18 shots, six saved by the keeper and a further six blocked and one that hit the post.
Not bad for an away team.

scawsby steve

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #94 on April 05, 2025, 06:06:33 pm by scawsby steve »
Didn't like the dogs abuse Gibson was getting.   

Such an easy target. The only bit of quality prior to the goal came from him when he hit the post. Inches away from a wonder goal.

Disagree. Luke's quality put Ironside in for a sitter that I could have scored.

Usher wide.

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #95 on April 05, 2025, 06:08:37 pm by Usher wide. »
Didn't like the dogs abuse Gibson was getting.

Bloke 3 rows back & to the side of me giving Gibbo grief from Ist half onwards “MOVE GIBSON”, second half…”GET GIBSON OFF!”.

Took great delight when he crossed the ball for Billy’s goal to turn around to him & shout “Great ball from GIbbo eh?”. He nodded & started talking to his mate.

You have to ‘call’ them out.

Well, I feel I have to. P’raps it’s just me.

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #96 on April 05, 2025, 06:11:16 pm by ForsolongaRover »
I thought that there was more effort than we’ve seen in some games recently, but the fact that we could not score sooner means that:

1. We give Cheltenham credit for their performance. They didn’t park the bus, they didn’t allow us space and carried on trying to score.
2. Despite a good deal of effort from most of those in Rovers shirts - and Sharp exemplified that by getting back and defending when necessary - a lot of our players didn’t show enough skill and imagination to make enough of a difference. We could do with more Baileys, Molys, Sterrys and Gibsons, players who have the confidence to hold the ball, run with it  and be creative. (Kelly and Crew?) Incidentally do we have a better header of the ball in attack than Bailey?

I thought the ref. was one who let the game flow and if I dare say so, I think we probably got away with a few dubious challenges.

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« Reply #97 on April 05, 2025, 06:25:30 pm by Bills view »
Kelly didn't play particularly well in that in pivotal 10 position. I know it's easier coming on later in the game when there's more space.

Vital three points. Let's keep ticking them off

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« Reply #98 on April 05, 2025, 06:29:32 pm by Ryaldinhio »
Didn't like the dogs abuse Gibson was getting.

Bloke 3 rows back & to the side of me giving Gibbo grief from Ist half onwards “MOVE GIBSON”, second half…”GET GIBSON OFF!”.

Took great delight when he crossed the ball for Billy’s goal to turn around to him & shout “Great ball from GIbbo eh?”. He nodded & started talking to his mate.

You have to ‘call’ them out.

Well, I feel I have to. P’raps it’s just me.

That was me Usher, as I said at the game if you think 1 cross makes up for 90mins of shite then we have a different mindset.

Generally I don't get on players backs and there is no animosity between us pal, I just get SOOOO frustrated with Gibbo not working hard enough. His body language was shocking and it was the same today against Chelt. Other night he lost the ball and didnt chase back and a goal came from it. Mid second half today the RB got the ball and was running forward Gibbo was jogging behind him not even half an effort to get back. Does my head in!

I can understand a striker getting away with disappearing for a full game and scoring but midfielders can't dissaper for 90mons and make 1 cross.

drfchound

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« Reply #99 on April 05, 2025, 06:51:00 pm by drfchound »
I thought that there was more effort than we’ve seen in some games recently, but the fact that we could not score sooner means that:

1. We give Cheltenham credit for their performance. They didn’t park the bus, they didn’t allow us space and carried on trying to score.
2. Despite a good deal of effort from most of those in Rovers shirts - and Sharp exemplified that by getting back and defending when necessary - a lot of our players didn’t show enough skill and imagination to make enough of a difference. We could do with more Baileys, Molys, Sterrys and Gibsons, players who have the confidence to hold the ball, run with it  and be creative. (Kelly and Crew?) Incidentally do we have a better header of the ball in attack than Bailey?

I thought the ref. was one who let the game flow and if I dare say so, I think we probably got away with a few dubious challenges.

Cheltenham got away with probably the biggest escape of the game when their defender wiped out Rob Street when he was about six or seven yards from goal.

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #100 on April 05, 2025, 06:54:51 pm by GazLaz »
Didn't like the dogs abuse Gibson was getting.

Bloke 3 rows back & to the side of me giving Gibbo grief from Ist half onwards “MOVE GIBSON”, second half…”GET GIBSON OFF!”.

Took great delight when he crossed the ball for Billy’s goal to turn around to him & shout “Great ball from GIbbo eh?”. He nodded & started talking to his mate.

You have to ‘call’ them out.

Well, I feel I have to. P’raps it’s just me.

That was me Usher, as I said at the game if you think 1 cross makes up for 90mins of shite then we have a different mindset.

Generally I don't get on players backs and there is no animosity between us pal, I just get SOOOO frustrated with Gibbo not working hard enough. His body language was shocking and it was the same today against Chelt. Other night he lost the ball and didnt chase back and a goal came from it. Mid second half today the RB got the ball and was running forward Gibbo was jogging behind him not even half an effort to get back. Does my head in!

I can understand a striker getting away with disappearing for a full game and scoring but midfielders can't dissaper for 90mons and make 1 cross.

Some defensive comparisons per 90. Gibson on the left and Mols on the right. Mols praised for his defensive output and Gibson slated.

This is not anti- Mols by the way. Just sometimes perception counts for more that what is actually happening.


Ryaldinhio

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #101 on April 05, 2025, 06:59:00 pm by Ryaldinhio »
Didn't like the dogs abuse Gibson was getting.

Bloke 3 rows back & to the side of me giving Gibbo grief from Ist half onwards “MOVE GIBSON”, second half…”GET GIBSON OFF!”.

Took great delight when he crossed the ball for Billy’s goal to turn around to him & shout “Great ball from GIbbo eh?”. He nodded & started talking to his mate.

You have to ‘call’ them out.

Well, I feel I have to. P’raps it’s just me.

That was me Usher, as I said at the game if you think 1 cross makes up for 90mins of shite then we have a different mindset.

Generally I don't get on players backs and there is no animosity between us pal, I just get SOOOO frustrated with Gibbo not working hard enough. His body language was shocking and it was the same today against Chelt. Other night he lost the ball and didnt chase back and a goal came from it. Mid second half today the RB got the ball and was running forward Gibbo was jogging behind him not even half an effort to get back. Does my head in!

I can understand a striker getting away with disappearing for a full game and scoring but midfielders can't dissaper for 90mons and make 1 cross.

Some defensive comparisons per 90. Gibson on the left and Mols on the right. Mols praised for his defensive output and Gibson slated.

This is not anti- Mols by the way. Just sometimes perception counts for more that what is actually happening.

I've said it a few times Gaz, it's the body language, he looks so disinterested.

And this end of the season emotions take over  :chair:


GazLaz

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« Reply #102 on April 05, 2025, 07:11:04 pm by GazLaz »
Didn't like the dogs abuse Gibson was getting.

Bloke 3 rows back & to the side of me giving Gibbo grief from Ist half onwards “MOVE GIBSON”, second half…”GET GIBSON OFF!”.

Took great delight when he crossed the ball for Billy’s goal to turn around to him & shout “Great ball from GIbbo eh?”. He nodded & started talking to his mate.

You have to ‘call’ them out.

Well, I feel I have to. P’raps it’s just me.

That was me Usher, as I said at the game if you think 1 cross makes up for 90mins of shite then we have a different mindset.

Generally I don't get on players backs and there is no animosity between us pal, I just get SOOOO frustrated with Gibbo not working hard enough. His body language was shocking and it was the same today against Chelt. Other night he lost the ball and didnt chase back and a goal came from it. Mid second half today the RB got the ball and was running forward Gibbo was jogging behind him not even half an effort to get back. Does my head in!

I can understand a striker getting away with disappearing for a full game and scoring but midfielders can't dissaper for 90mons and make 1 cross.

Some defensive comparisons per 90. Gibson on the left and Mols on the right. Mols praised for his defensive output and Gibson slated.

This is not anti- Mols by the way. Just sometimes perception counts for more that what is actually happening.

I've said it a few times Gaz, it's the body language, he looks so disinterested.

And this end of the season emotions take over  :chair:



I agree. He looks lethargic.

I’d be really interested to see our two wingers in L1 next season and who transitions to the level above the best. Make no bones about it Gibsons underlying numbers in nearly all areas are the better of the two but Mols end product has been dynamite for 12 months. Over performing wildly goals wise.

You’d think, given his output, teams should be queueing up to sign Luke.

Ryaldinhio

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« Reply #103 on April 05, 2025, 07:14:26 pm by Ryaldinhio »
Didn't like the dogs abuse Gibson was getting.

Bloke 3 rows back & to the side of me giving Gibbo grief from Ist half onwards “MOVE GIBSON”, second half…”GET GIBSON OFF!”.

Took great delight when he crossed the ball for Billy’s goal to turn around to him & shout “Great ball from GIbbo eh?”. He nodded & started talking to his mate.

You have to ‘call’ them out.

Well, I feel I have to. P’raps it’s just me.

That was me Usher, as I said at the game if you think 1 cross makes up for 90mins of shite then we have a different mindset.

Generally I don't get on players backs and there is no animosity between us pal, I just get SOOOO frustrated with Gibbo not working hard enough. His body language was shocking and it was the same today against Chelt. Other night he lost the ball and didnt chase back and a goal came from it. Mid second half today the RB got the ball and was running forward Gibbo was jogging behind him not even half an effort to get back. Does my head in!

I can understand a striker getting away with disappearing for a full game and scoring but midfielders can't dissaper for 90mons and make 1 cross.

Some defensive comparisons per 90. Gibson on the left and Mols on the right. Mols praised for his defensive output and Gibson slated.

This is not anti- Mols by the way. Just sometimes perception counts for more that what is actually happening.

I've said it a few times Gaz, it's the body language, he looks so disinterested.

And this end of the season emotions take over  :chair:



I agree. He looks lethargic.

I’d be really interested to see our two wingers in L1 next season and who transitions to the level above the best. Make no bones about it Gibsons underlying numbers in nearly all areas are the better of the two but Mols end product has been dynamite for 12 months. Over performing wildly goals wise.

You’d think, given his output, teams should be queueing up to sign Luke.

I've liked Gibbo from day dot, just want him to work back.....maybe because it was always instilled in me that no matter the talent you still have to work.

Everyone watches and KNOWS he could give more for the team......

Lesonthewest

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #104 on April 05, 2025, 07:59:08 pm by Lesonthewest »
Great win
Another one ticked off,
Superb week for us, 7 points from 3 games

What would 9 points have been if 7 is superb.

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« Reply #105 on April 05, 2025, 08:09:17 pm by dickos1 »
Great win
Another one ticked off,
Superb week for us, 7 points from 3 games

What would 9 points have been if 7 is superb.

You tell me!
Magnificent, outstanding, perfect?
Any of the above

dickos1

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #106 on April 05, 2025, 08:13:20 pm by dickos1 »
Poor performance but I'll definitely take the 3 points. We just don't seem to create much and I thought we'd never score. Red card probably just swung it for us. Been said before but we HAVE to finish top 3 as I honestly don't fancy us to beat anybody over 2 legs on that showing. Ref was awful again but Cheltenham never really threatened. Another tricky game chalked off and onwards we go. :rtid:

Apart from Tranmere every other game is top 8. Worrying on the last 3 games showings.

If 7 points out of 9 is worrying then I don’t know what to say anymore

RoversInSpain

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #107 on April 05, 2025, 08:15:40 pm by RoversInSpain »
1 pen all season
Hit woodwork more times than anyone else
Scored plenty compared to others
Winning the league is in our own hands with 6 to go
But still plenty of doomers ready to say we’re sh+T and we could’ve, should’ve, would’ve.
Move on folks it’s a biggy Satdee…



Lesonthewest

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #108 on April 05, 2025, 09:11:10 pm by Lesonthewest »
Great win
Another one ticked off,
Superb week for us, 7 points from 3 games

What would 9 points have been if 7 is superb.

You tell me!
Magnificent, outstanding, perfect?
Any of the above

Superb

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #109 on April 06, 2025, 12:12:09 am by Pancho Regan »
Didn't like the dogs abuse Gibson was getting.

Bloke 3 rows back & to the side of me giving Gibbo grief from Ist half onwards “MOVE GIBSON”, second half…”GET GIBSON OFF!”.

Took great delight when he crossed the ball for Billy’s goal to turn around to him & shout “Great ball from GIbbo eh?”. He nodded & started talking to his mate.

You have to ‘call’ them out.

Well, I feel I have to. P’raps it’s just me.

That was me Usher, as I said at the game if you think 1 cross makes up for 90mins of shite then we have a different mindset.

Generally I don't get on players backs and there is no animosity between us pal, I just get SOOOO frustrated with Gibbo not working hard enough. His body language was shocking and it was the same today against Chelt. Other night he lost the ball and didnt chase back and a goal came from it. Mid second half today the RB got the ball and was running forward Gibbo was jogging behind him not even half an effort to get back. Does my head in!

I can understand a striker getting away with disappearing for a full game and scoring but midfielders can't dissaper for 90mons and make 1 cross.

Where I would take issue with you is shouting for a player to be taken off when he is making a positive contribution to the game.

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #110 on April 06, 2025, 12:15:47 am by andysly »
1 pen all season
Hit woodwork more times than anyone else
Scored plenty compared to others
Winning the league is in our own hands with 6 to go
But still plenty of doomers ready to say we’re sh+T and we could’ve, should’ve, would’ve.
Move on folks it’s a biggy Satdee…

And still we wait for the day it clicks and everything goes our way, hopefully it’ll happen v Wimbledon or Bradford or both

Ryaldinhio

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« Reply #111 on April 06, 2025, 05:07:06 am by Ryaldinhio »
Didn't like the dogs abuse Gibson was getting.

Bloke 3 rows back & to the side of me giving Gibbo grief from Ist half onwards “MOVE GIBSON”, second half…”GET GIBSON OFF!”.

Took great delight when he crossed the ball for Billy’s goal to turn around to him & shout “Great ball from GIbbo eh?”. He nodded & started talking to his mate.

You have to ‘call’ them out.

Well, I feel I have to. P’raps it’s just me.

That was me Usher, as I said at the game if you think 1 cross makes up for 90mins of shite then we have a different mindset.

Generally I don't get on players backs and there is no animosity between us pal, I just get SOOOO frustrated with Gibbo not working hard enough. His body language was shocking and it was the same today against Chelt. Other night he lost the ball and didnt chase back and a goal came from it. Mid second half today the RB got the ball and was running forward Gibbo was jogging behind him not even half an effort to get back. Does my head in!

I can understand a striker getting away with disappearing for a full game and scoring but midfielders can't dissaper for 90mons and make 1 cross.

Where I would take issue with you is shouting for a player to be taken off when he is making a positive contribution to the game.

Dont understand Pancho? Yes he MADE one positive contribution with the cross on 84th minute. That doesn't mean he was MAKING a positive contribution to the game for the other 83 before that?



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« Reply #112 on April 06, 2025, 09:48:54 am by Ian Nimmo »
For me it was another underperformance from Gibson.
Ok unlucky to hit post, but could he have scored yes possibly.

However my main concern is his work rate for the team, he just does not want to get involved when he’s not got the ball.
The example of running behind the right back was typical, he was just jogging behind him, no attempt to run after him quickly, he has enough pace to have got into a position where he could have challenged the player, instead he left him clear to be able to take time to make a pass.
This is just so poor.

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« Reply #113 on April 06, 2025, 09:56:46 am by GazLaz »
For me it was another underperformance from Gibson.
Ok unlucky to hit post, but could he have scored yes possibly.

However my main concern is his work rate for the team, he just does not want to get involved when he’s not got the ball.
The example of running behind the right back was typical, he was just jogging behind him, no attempt to run after him quickly, he has enough pace to have got into a position where he could have challenged the player, instead he left him clear to be able to take time to make a pass.
This is just so poor.


Defensive comparison to Mols (again, no slight on Mols, just a like for like position comparison) yesterday…

Gibsons numbers on the left, Mols on the right.


I do think some players look to be charging around more than others so it looks like they are working harder but they can in essence be achieving nothing in the way of stopping the opposition playing.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2025, 09:58:50 am by GazLaz »

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« Reply #114 on April 06, 2025, 02:49:59 pm by i_ateallthepies »
For me it was another underperformance from Gibson.
Ok unlucky to hit post, but could he have scored yes possibly.

However my main concern is his work rate for the team, he just does not want to get involved when he’s not got the ball.
The example of running behind the right back was typical, he was just jogging behind him, no attempt to run after him quickly, he has enough pace to have got into a position where he could have challenged the player, instead he left him clear to be able to take time to make a pass.
This is just so poor.


Defensive comparison to Mols (again, no slight on Mols, just a like for like position comparison) yesterday…

Gibsons numbers on the left, Mols on the right.


I do think some players look to be charging around more than others so it looks like they are working harder but they can in essence be achieving nothing in the way of stopping the opposition playing.


The examples given of Gibson blatantly choosing to not do his share of the defensive work are seen by numerous people and aren't imagined.  If Molyneux was seen doing the same I'm sure it would be noticed and commented on similarly.  You have nailed your colours to Gibson's mast and refuse to see what is in front of you.

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« Reply #115 on April 06, 2025, 03:20:12 pm by Spud »
Gibson's been much improved, going forwards, for me. A month or two back he'd get in good positions & nearly always pass back, now he looks confident in taking his man on & is about the best passer of the ball we have.
Those expecting him to be up & down all game are always gonna be disappointed, tbh if Grant's prepared to stick with him then that's good enough for me. If you are gonna call him please not at the games, unless you wanna destroy his confident, not sure why anyone would want to do that to any of our players tbh.

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« Reply #116 on April 06, 2025, 03:21:45 pm by Spud »
To add to that, Moly was fantastic again yesterday, especially on the left.

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« Reply #117 on April 06, 2025, 09:20:16 pm by GazLaz »
Hakeeb didn’t do any defensive work last season. Some wingers aren’t best in that area.

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« Reply #118 on April 06, 2025, 09:49:36 pm by IDM »
I don’t remember Cotterill doing much either..

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« Reply #119 on April 15, 2025, 10:44:43 pm by Ryaldinhio »
Didn't like the dogs abuse Gibson was getting.

Bloke 3 rows back & to the side of me giving Gibbo grief from Ist half onwards “MOVE GIBSON”, second half…”GET GIBSON OFF!”.

Took great delight when he crossed the ball for Billy’s goal to turn around to him & shout “Great ball from GIbbo eh?”. He nodded & started talking to his mate.

You have to ‘call’ them out.

Well, I feel I have to. P’raps it’s just me.

That was me Usher, as I said at the game if you think 1 cross makes up for 90mins of shite then we have a different mindset.

Generally I don't get on players backs and there is no animosity between us pal, I just get SOOOO frustrated with Gibbo not working hard enough. His body language was shocking and it was the same today against Chelt. Other night he lost the ball and didnt chase back and a goal came from it. Mid second half today the RB got the ball and was running forward Gibbo was jogging behind him not even half an effort to get back. Does my head in!

I can understand a striker getting away with disappearing for a full game and scoring but midfielders can't dissaper for 90mons and make 1 cross.

Jump in Usher, shut these lot down....

Gibbo is clearly talented, given his stats in L1 last season.

His lack of effort pisses up the back of every fan who pays to watch or every half talented lad who wanted to be a professional footballer.

Shoot me down, and the rest of em on here........

 

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