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rtid88

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Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« on April 13, 2025, 02:13:24 am by rtid88 »
After so many good loan signings last season. Who ultimately made decisions this year as to who we signed as for me none of our signings this year have added anything.



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Smyth

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #1 on April 13, 2025, 05:30:03 am by Smyth »
Street has, take away his contribution and we'd definitely now be looking at playoffs. Signed to replace Yeboah who himself was brought in on June 11th, presumably because he was such an outstanding talent, but now hardly getting off the subs bench at Dunfermline.
Sbarra is what he is, a good non league player

Chris Black come back

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #2 on April 13, 2025, 06:39:30 am by Chris Black come back »
It is hard to make a case for any of the decisions since last summer. The new deals for Close and Westbrooke look truly astounding decisions. TSL pretty good. Rest of loanees all very hit and miss. Sbarra has struggled to adapt to league football again. Billy has been a squad addition and not a revelation.

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #3 on April 13, 2025, 07:38:07 am by Padge_DRFC »
Gibson, Street and TSL. The rest have been pretty average signings

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #4 on April 13, 2025, 08:09:14 am by ncRover »
Gibson is a good player but a different one to Adelakun, which has upset the balance a bit in attack.

I think we’ll go up this season, but the 24/25 signings and upcoming retained list are going to put us in trouble for League One next season I fear.

If promotion was expected there should have been better long term planning.
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Rovers91

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #5 on April 13, 2025, 08:32:44 am by Rovers91 »
I also don't think the manager has used them correctly I'm sure if Crew played for someone who plays football he would definitely add something.

Our midfield has been shite all season and has just got away with the fact we are in a poor league 2. Broadbent, Clifton and Sbarra will all be embarrassed week in week out if we get promoted yet this season they are the ones getting picked week in week out. I'm baffled how Westbrooke, Crew and Kelly haven't got more time because the ones we have played instead of them are shite.

As for the permanent signings Grant made this season I wouldn't mind if everyone of them weren't here next season.

Ian Nimmo

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #6 on April 13, 2025, 08:34:09 am by Ian Nimmo »
Gibson has been very unproductive this season and therefore can’t be considered to have been a good signing, I am sure majority of supporters will have been expecting more from him.
I have been saying for quite some time, is body language is shocking and just strolls around when he’s off the ball, and offers very little urgency when he loses the ball.

Reg of the Rovers

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #7 on April 13, 2025, 08:44:13 am by Reg of the Rovers »
There’s been some absolute stinkers of decisions - Close and Westbrooke as mentioned, plus Yeboah and Ennis who are down there with our worst ever loanees.

We seem to have gone for quantity over quality, Kelly and Crew both shown glimpses but raw kids who were always more likely to struggle than success. Add the useless Ennis and Yeboah and that’s four loans pretty much wasted. One or two more senior players would have worked much better.

Far too scattergun in recruitment, and we really haven’t ever addressed the main weakness which is in the middle of the park every week. Whatever league we’re in next year we need a huge shake up.

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #8 on April 13, 2025, 09:05:14 am by GazLaz »
McCann.

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #9 on April 13, 2025, 10:54:38 am by DonnyOsmond »
McCann.

/Head of Recruitment and his team?

The Dav

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #10 on April 13, 2025, 11:06:13 am by The Dav »
This is sounding like the love affair with some fans for Mcann is coming to an end ! I for one was absolutely chuffed when he came back, however the football from his team this season hasn’t been enjoyable, if we do make it up this season, then do we trust him and his team to deliver a squad capable of competing? And before I’m told to get a grip I’m a season ticket holder and watch what’s been delivered on the pitch.

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #11 on April 13, 2025, 11:53:34 am by selby »
  One thing to be considered when watching these players in u21s football is a decline in the overall standard of players at that level.
  We have now got to the stage with the academy system where most players coaches and systems and styles of coaching are all the same, and robotic, do the same tricks, line up the same way, pass the ball backwards and sideways, and unfortunately the ones who don't fit and show different straights and probably a little individualism are discarded into non league or in many cases pack in at 17 to twenty years old.
  Kelly and Crew are fine examples play for clubs hundreds of miles apart and virtually the same player, technically very good, but playing at a pace and physicality they have not come across before, and are not allowed to dominate the ball.
 A couple of weeks ago I watched Derby County u21s v Buxton Buxton having just as young a side as Derby Buxton a mix of players discarded by league club u21s sides and never got near the first teams at their clubs, and loans such as Burton from Hartlepool, Faulkner from us, and Mann from Stockport all having played non league loans before and obviously Buxtons own players playing in league games in the National North a good standard.
  Not one Derby player would have got in Buxton's team who were stronger faster and technically in front of them, Faulkner, Burton , and Mann miles in front of them like taking candy off a baby, and they were the same age as the Derby side.
 Now to me Kelly and Crew are at the stage of the Derby lads, and in Faulkner and Flint we have two of our own who have flourished in the national North League  which is where Crew and Kelly should be playing and probably Ennis, substitute us for Buxton and Darlington and we are their finishing school and its too much for them and we have not been any better a loan for them as they are for us.
  Burton and Mann with Faulkner are quite a formidable back line of good young players attracting a lot of interest from other clubs because of their youth, McGraths dad certainly has an eye for young players, and you can see him looking for pay days for Buxton moving them on building a side of all young players very few older than their early tweties.

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #12 on April 13, 2025, 11:55:44 am by DonnyOsmond »
Kelly and Crew are completely different midfielders.

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #13 on April 13, 2025, 12:02:55 pm by mushRTID »
McCann said in an interview early last season that he has the final say on transfers as it’s him who will be judged if they fail.

Well he needs to accept that most have been poor this season.

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #14 on April 13, 2025, 12:07:42 pm by normal rules »
Not securing Adelakun , for whatever reason, has hurt us this season. He was the regular goal scorer we have missed .

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #15 on April 13, 2025, 02:48:34 pm by EasyforDennis »
Not securing Adelakun , for whatever reason, has hurt us this season. He was the regular goal scorer we have missed .

Not signing Adelakun had nothing to do with the player. It was all down to his agent.

dickos1

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #16 on April 13, 2025, 03:17:17 pm by dickos1 »
Not the clubs fault with adelekun, we offered him a contract he listened to poor advice and ended up with no club when the season started.
Hope he sacked his agent

McCann has made some very good signings and some poor ones, the same as any club in the country

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #17 on April 13, 2025, 04:12:19 pm by selby »
DO, I rope them in with Marsh from last season good players at u21s level good when on the ball and not dominant when not on the ball or strong enough.
  Decent ball control but easily knocked off the ball every coach is looking for the same thing teams like us need them when they have had experience of men's football not the nursery., the difference in Broadbent after playing regular is there for all to see with games  under his belt.
  Different positions but Flint and Faulkner are in front of them development wise, they have made a difference in the games I have watched them and dominated their man in the opposition.

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #18 on April 13, 2025, 04:12:46 pm by GazLaz »
Not the clubs fault with adelekun, we offered him a contract he listened to poor advice and ended up with no club when the season started.
Hope he sacked his agent

McCann has made some very good signings and some poor ones, the same as any club in the country

He got offered fortunes abroad that didn’t materialise.

Draytonian III

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #19 on April 13, 2025, 04:28:00 pm by Draytonian III »
Not the clubs fault with adelekun, we offered him a contract he listened to poor advice and ended up with no club when the season started.
Hope he sacked his agent

McCann has made some very good signings and some poor ones, the same as any club in the country







Isn’t his brother his agent

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #20 on April 13, 2025, 04:33:16 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
I struggle to criticise the recruitment that much. Was happy with a lot of the signings as individuals based on what they were doing for other clubs. And you’d think if it’s manager led recruitment he’d have an idea how he wants it to fit together. Potentially a case of our owners giving him exactly what he asked for and not challenging him.

I have 2 areas I’d take issue with

The loanees have been mostly a waste of space and personally think we need to forget loanees unless they’ve played a reasonable number of men’s games. The players top clubs will send to L2 aren’t their best prospects. It’s the dregs. And yes I know there’s examples of good ones but not enough imo.

Contract renewals, and this all depends on how much we are paying obviously but, we’ve had a shocker here. Close was a terrible decision we all saw it at the time. Wood is a 40yr old man. Yes finished last season well but it’s a very risky move and watching him play he’s a liability now imo.

Westbrooke I was ok with extending and actually think he’d do a job for us still. But it was like GM got him extended and then wiped his hands of him. Unless Westbrooke has done something out of order it’s just wasteful.

I hope the owners do needle GM about this type of thing it’s wasteful. When he comes asking for a new midfielder I’d be saying what happened to the 2 I’m paying 3k a week for (combined) that you asked me to extend? Or the winger whose contract we extended and you sent on loan to be replaced by someone far worse on loan who now gets no game time. There has to be accountability on the daft decisions.


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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #21 on April 13, 2025, 04:35:03 pm by LincolnDonny »
Not the clubs fault with adelekun, we offered him a contract he listened to poor advice and ended up with no club when the season started.
Hope he sacked his agent

McCann has made some very good signings and some poor ones, the same as any club in the country







Isn’t his brother his agent





Del boy ?

ncRover

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #22 on April 15, 2025, 09:10:14 am by ncRover »
DO, I rope them in with Marsh from last season good players at u21s level good when on the ball and not dominant when not on the ball or strong enough.
  Decent ball control but easily knocked off the ball every coach is looking for the same thing teams like us need them when they have had experience of men's football not the nursery., the difference in Broadbent after playing regular is there for all to see with games  under his belt.
  Different positions but Flint and Faulkner are in front of them development wise, they have made a difference in the games I have watched them and dominated their man in the opposition.

Quite a few on here were wanting us to sign Louie Marsh, but he hasn’t pulled any trees up at Fleetwood since signing in Jan.

And you’re right about Crew. He’s struggled to get a game because he’s too lightweight and not brave enough. Look at the Chesterfield 1st goal here. Not exactly busting a gut to get back for their 3rd either?

https://youtu.be/NLgNltJNMLc?si=i8rL3qr_LSouo-WX

Like you say, academy football doesn’t prepare them for the physical side of the game anymore.
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GazLaz

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #23 on April 15, 2025, 10:04:18 am by GazLaz »
DO, I rope them in with Marsh from last season good players at u21s level good when on the ball and not dominant when not on the ball or strong enough.
  Decent ball control but easily knocked off the ball every coach is looking for the same thing teams like us need them when they have had experience of men's football not the nursery., the difference in Broadbent after playing regular is there for all to see with games  under his belt.
  Different positions but Flint and Faulkner are in front of them development wise, they have made a difference in the games I have watched them and dominated their man in the opposition.

Quite a few on here were wanting us to sign Louie Marsh, but he hasn’t pulled any trees up at Fleetwood since signing in Jan.

And you’re right about Crew. He’s struggled to get a game because he’s too lightweight and not brave enough. Look at the Chesterfield 1st goal here. Not exactly busting a gut to get back for their 3rd either?

https://youtu.be/NLgNltJNMLc?si=i8rL3qr_LSouo-WX

Like you say, academy football doesn’t prepare them for the physical side of the game anymore.

Loads of academy players move straight into Prem teams and look fantastic. They are there.

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #24 on April 15, 2025, 10:31:20 am by DonnyBazR0ver »
I don't know why we're asking the question when McCann on more than one occasion explained the recruitment process he oversees and makes the final decisions. Meet The Owners was one specific event when he explained it in a response to a direct question.

It's easy for us to criticise in hindsight but more difficult to take responsibility to make decisions, sometimes difficult ones, assessing risk and making compromises.

He's not the kind of bloke to shy away from answering any questions  but more importantly, promotion or not, he and the board will review everything at the end of the season including how he's managed the players once through the door. On the outside, we may think one or two loans haven't had the game time and/or not lived up to endorsements from McCann when signing them. He's already said he has to make some difficult decisions when leaving players out of the matchday squad and yes, of course those decisions are of his own making.

We're about 5 games away from deciding whether this year's recruitment has been good enough to achieve the desired goal.

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #25 on April 15, 2025, 10:46:58 am by dickos1 »
There’s been some absolute stinkers of decisions - Close and Westbrooke as mentioned, plus Yeboah and Ennis who are down there with our worst ever loanees.

We seem to have gone for quantity over quality, Kelly and Crew both shown glimpses but raw kids who were always more likely to struggle than success. Add the useless Ennis and Yeboah and that’s four loans pretty much wasted. One or two more senior players would have worked much better.

Far too scattergun in recruitment, and we really haven’t ever addressed the main weakness which is in the middle of the park every week. Whatever league we’re in next year we need a huge shake up.

Not even close to our worst ever signings

Smyth

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #26 on April 15, 2025, 11:19:12 am by Smyth »
There’s been some absolute stinkers of decisions - Close and Westbrooke as mentioned, plus Yeboah and Ennis who are down there with our worst ever loanees.

We seem to have gone for quantity over quality, Kelly and Crew both shown glimpses but raw kids who were always more likely to struggle than success. Add the useless Ennis and Yeboah and that’s four loans pretty much wasted. One or two more senior players would have worked much better.

Far too scattergun in recruitment, and we really haven’t ever addressed the main weakness which is in the middle of the park every week. Whatever league we’re in next year we need a huge shake up.

Not even close to our worst ever signings
Damned by faint praise..

Did you see this article? At the time I thought wow, this kid is going to be so unbelievably talented,  signing so early in the transfer window,  no-one else is going to have the impact this 17 year old will who'd  previously reached the stratosphere with Bath. Quote from McCann " he's someone we've watched  religiously "
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/clkk19112ddo
« Last Edit: April 15, 2025, 11:30:38 am by Smyth »

dickos1

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #27 on April 15, 2025, 11:26:55 am by dickos1 »
Not sure of your point
If you don’t think we’ve made worse signings ever than yeboah then you’ve lost the plot

Smyth

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #28 on April 16, 2025, 08:21:49 am by Smyth »
Street again, without his goals where would we now be?
Someone at Lincoln knew he was worth a long contract.
A board with experience and knowhow?

https://www.weareimps.com/club/board-members-and-key-investors

Smyth

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Re: Who made the 24/25 recruitment decisions?
« Reply #29 on April 16, 2025, 08:28:13 am by Smyth »
Not sure of your point
If you don’t think we’ve made worse signings ever than yeboah then you’ve lost the plot
Who else did we sign on a season long loan deal in very early June having had such public high praise from the manager who then had his loan ended? Explain please, so we can do a like for like comparison.

 

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