Bradford

[TonySoprano]

What I don't get is why they don't give them the 1500 in the south/east corner and give rovers the allocation behind both goals. We should be looking at doing this next yr in L1 aswell.

You're suggesting we put away fans in the Family Stand?

Sorry pal, North East. Also no doubt it would need some work. But mainly to give us the area behind both goals. I went to Leeds v Swansea a few weeks ago and the away fans are that sort of area, tucked up out the way. There are times when it would give us an advantage having fans behind both goals, on penalties for instance. Even in general play, I always think we prefer playing towards South stand, like our fans pull the ball in to the goal at times....could have that at both ends.

Problem is, I can only think of 3 occasions in the stadium’s lifetime when home fans have been in the north (the free palace game, the donnybob challenge against Swansea and last season against Crewe). The upheaval probably isn’t justified

Closing some doors is t at upheaval.

The crewe jpt game had home fans in the north aswell.

[colincramb]

What I don't get is why they don't give them the 1500 in the south/east corner and give rovers the allocation behind both goals. We should be looking at doing this next yr in L1 aswell.

You're suggesting we put away fans in the Family Stand?

Sorry pal, North East. Also no doubt it would need some work. But mainly to give us the area behind both goals. I went to Leeds v Swansea a few weeks ago and the away fans are that sort of area, tucked up out the way. There are times when it would give us an advantage having fans behind both goals, on penalties for instance. Even in general play, I always think we prefer playing towards South stand, like our fans pull the ball in to the goal at times....could have that at both ends.

Problem is, I can only think of 3 occasions in the stadium’s lifetime when home fans have been in the north (the free palace game, the donnybob challenge against Swansea and last season against Crewe). The upheaval probably isn’t justified

Closing some doors is t at upheaval.

The crewe jpt game had home fans in the north aswell.

Yeah, but the original post was suggesting we move away fans from their current area on a permanent basis. Should really have read the posts

[johnny rovers]

Wonder if we will open any more blocks in the east up? I would hazard a guess we could easily sell another 500, at least.

E1 and E46 to go on sale at some point. And the top half of W32. These blocks and the rest of E2 will have to sell out before the north stand is opened up for home fans

[TonySoprano]

What I don't get is why they don't give them the 1500 in the south/east corner and give rovers the allocation behind both goals. We should be looking at doing this next yr in L1 aswell.

You're suggesting we put away fans in the Family Stand?

Sorry pal, North East. Also no doubt it would need some work. But mainly to give us the area behind both goals. I went to Leeds v Swansea a few weeks ago and the away fans are that sort of area, tucked up out the way. There are times when it would give us an advantage having fans behind both goals, on penalties for instance. Even in general play, I always think we prefer playing towards South stand, like our fans pull the ball in to the goal at times....could have that at both ends.

Problem is, I can only think of 3 occasions in the stadium’s lifetime when home fans have been in the north (the free palace game, the donnybob challenge against Swansea and last season against Crewe). The upheaval probably isn’t justified

Closing some doors is t at upheaval.

The crewe jpt game had home fans in the north aswell.

Yeah, but the original post was suggesting we move away fans from their current area on a permanent basis. Should really have read the posts

Yeah, fair enough.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Grant has issued an open letter asking for everyone to come and support, so I guess that’s a last push,….. for the North Stand….

My first thoughts were, great, really pushing sales but then thought it's wasted on me as I've got my season ticket....but then of course the club doesn't know for sure I'll be there.

So guess this is more aimed at season members and trying to reduce pre paid seats being left empty. 

The more I think about this, I think it's unlikely we'll open the North to home fans. Given the potential for it to get volatile it's probably a sensible move. It's taken sometime for these last few seats to shift, so probs fair to say the most regular Rovers fans have already got their place.


Guess we'll hear more soon.

[TonySoprano]

I'd think the possibility of problems would be at a minimum, given the hard-core of Rovers support is at the other end of the stadium.

[roverstillidie91]

Grant has issued an open letter asking for everyone to come and support, so I guess that’s a last push,….. for the North Stand….

My first thoughts were, great, really pushing sales but then thought it's wasted on me as I've got my season ticket....but then of course the club doesn't know for sure I'll be there.

So guess this is more aimed at season members and trying to reduce pre paid seats being left empty. 

The more I think about this, I think it's unlikely we'll open the North to home fans. Given the potential for it to get volatile it's probably a sensible move. It's taken sometime for these last few seats to shift, so probs fair to say the most regular Rovers fans have already got their place.


Guess we'll hear more soon.

if everyone shared on Facebook and general social media but like you said we have had tickets for sale in the last block on the east stand for which I've purchased 4 in but has really slowed since the blocks in the west and east was released.

[IDM]

If you can only get a ticket with a purchase history, then you should get the same email.  I got it too, not a ST holder but I already bought tickets some weeks ago..

[Pancho Regan]

Grant has issued an open letter asking for everyone to come and support, so I guess that’s a last push,….. for the North Stand….

Well I'm bringing a +1 with me and my brother is bringing +2, so we're doing our bit to answer Grant's rallying cry.

[colincramb]

Grant has issued an open letter asking for everyone to come and support, so I guess that’s a last push,….. for the North Stand….

My first thoughts were, great, really pushing sales but then thought it's wasted on me as I've got my season ticket....but then of course the club doesn't know for sure I'll be there.

So guess this is more aimed at season members and trying to reduce pre paid seats being left empty. 

The more I think about this, I think it's unlikely we'll open the North to home fans. Given the potential for it to get volatile it's probably a sensible move. It's taken sometime for these last few seats to shift, so probs fair to say the most regular Rovers fans have already got their place.


Guess we'll hear more soon.

if everyone shared on Facebook and general social media but like you said we have had tickets for sale in the last block on the east stand for which I've purchased 4 in but has really slowed since the blocks in the west and east was released.

I would hardly say it’s really slowed. A lot of people will only have purchased after mondays result. So it’s only been a day after that game to effectively sell the stadium out to home fans

[GazLaz]

What I don't get is why they don't give them the 1500 in the south/east corner and give rovers the allocation behind both goals. We should be looking at doing this next yr in L1 aswell.

You're suggesting we put away fans in the Family Stand?

Sorry pal, North East. Also no doubt it would need some work. But mainly to give us the area behind both goals. I went to Leeds v Swansea a few weeks ago and the away fans are that sort of area, tucked up out the way. There are times when it would give us an advantage having fans behind both goals, on penalties for instance. Even in general play, I always think we prefer playing towards South stand, like our fans pull the ball in to the goal at times....could have that at both ends.

I was thinking about this though, I wonder what the stats are when we kick to the south first half Vs second? Certainly feels like we actually play better going south first.  Our biggest two home wins this year have come that way.

My lad said before the game that they think they are disadvantaging us by turning us around but we will just potentially play better in the first half and it will be game over at half time. The rest as they say, is history.

[ravenrover]

I'm sure I read on DRFC official tje North stand will NOT be open for home fans

[Super Colin Cramb]

I’ve been told by someone who works at the ground that the safety officer will not allow home fans in the North Stand.Apparently Bradford will have the central blocks. Makes no sense restricting there numbers.

[anton123]

We can go right up to the corners on both sides I guess giving home fans around another 1k that we would usually not have because of segregation

[normal rules]

I’ve been told by someone who works at the ground that the safety officer will not allow home fans in the North Stand.Apparently Bradford will have the central blocks. Makes no sense restricting there numbers.

Some considerations you may have overlooked. With a full away end, and it being a local ish derby and it being a very important game, and it being bradfords last away game,there would be a need to have Police inside the ground . At a cost to the club . Police outside are not paid for by DRFC . The extra ticket sales may not balance out the cost to have cops in the ground. Then there are the extra stewards and concourse staff required. Wendies and dingles both at home also at 3pm.

[johnny rovers]

I’ve been told by someone who works at the ground that the safety officer will not allow home fans in the North Stand.Apparently Bradford will have the central blocks. Makes no sense restricting there numbers.

Some considerations you may have overlooked. With a full away end, and it being a local ish derby and it being a very important game, and it being bradfords last away game,there would be a need to have Police inside the ground . At a cost to the club . Police outside are not paid for by DRFC . The extra ticket sales may not balance out the cost to have cops in the ground. Then there are the extra stewards and concourse staff required. Wendies and dingles both at home also at 3pm.

But the main consideration of this thread extending is that the away end is only half full. Bradford have sold approximately 1500 tickets in a stand that holds 3334. That's alot of seats to not sell to either set of fans!

[normal rules]

You have missed my point. Having a full
Away end would increase costs to the club which perhaps they are not willing to do. Or maybe SYP simply cannot provide enough cops to facilitate the safe housing of a full away end ? Safety officers cannot just allow a full capacity ground to happen without many considerations . If rovers were to win and PV lose on sat then there would be a full scale pitch invasion, for sure. With a full away end of disgruntled Bradford fans ?  Recipe for trouble . All these things have to be factored in .i suspect there will be a number of factors why away fan numbers have been limited . And shithousery by DRFC (as has been suggested on the Bradford forum) isn’t one of them.
And lastly, and maybe most significantly, there is a scenario on Sat where Bradford and rovers could both secure promotion . Imagine a full away end and full home sides in raptures.a perfect storm for stewarding/ policing . It would end in chaos as there is a minority that would use it as an excuse for disorder. Limiting away fans for this game and keeping home fans out of the north stand is perfectly justified, reasonable and necessary.

[ravenrover]

I'd be very sirprised if there aren't double the number of stewards in front of South Stand

[drfchound]

I'd be very sirprised if there aren't double the number of stewards in front of South Stand

It would be a good idea to prevent fans invading the pitch during the game, which some might fancy trying if we were to score a late winner.

[sf9944]

There may be good reason for not opening up the north stand to home fans. Reasons we are not party to.

However….in my opinion cost (of stewarding/policing) should not be one of them.

This is the sort of ‘mega’ game that arises very infrequently and the club should facilitate the opportunity for as many of our fans to see it as possible. This sort of game is the perfect vehicle for growing our fan base.

The only other thing I would add is that in similar circumstances I don’t see other clubs limiting ticket sales. I do wonder if we are a little too cautious and a little too apt to take the path of least resistance rather than pulling out all the stops to make things happen.

Again though we are not party to the decision making so I might be completely wrong!

[TonySoprano]

It'll be the same as it was for the play off game last season. Rovers fans round the north east corner and into the north stand.

[IDM]

You have missed my point. Having a full
Away end would increase costs to the club which perhaps they are not willing to do. Or maybe SYP simply cannot provide enough cops to facilitate the safe housing of a full away end ? Safety officers cannot just allow a full capacity ground to happen without many considerations . If rovers were to win and PV lose on sat then there would be a full scale pitch invasion, for sure. With a full away end of disgruntled Bradford fans ?  Recipe for trouble . All these things have to be factored in .i suspect there will be a number of factors why away fan numbers have been limited . And shithousery by DRFC (as has been suggested on the Bradford forum) isn’t one of them.
And lastly, and maybe most significantly, there is a scenario on Sat where Bradford and rovers could both secure promotion . Imagine a full away end and full home sides in raptures.a perfect storm for stewarding/ policing . It would end in chaos as there is a minority that would use it as an excuse for disorder. Limiting away fans for this game and keeping home fans out of the north stand is perfectly justified, reasonable and necessary.

Both teams only get promoted on Sat if Bradford win, and Walsall lose.

I can’t see folks hanging around until 5pm to find out..

[RoversInSpain]

You have missed my point. Having a full
Away end would increase costs to the club which perhaps they are not willing to do. Or maybe SYP simply cannot provide enough cops to facilitate the safe housing of a full away end ? Safety officers cannot just allow a full capacity ground to happen without many considerations . If rovers were to win and PV lose on sat then there would be a full scale pitch invasion, for sure. With a full away end of disgruntled Bradford fans ?  Recipe for trouble . All these things have to be factored in .i suspect there will be a number of factors why away fan numbers have been limited . And shithousery by DRFC (as has been suggested on the Bradford forum) isn’t one of them.
And lastly, and maybe most significantly, there is a scenario on Sat where Bradford and rovers could both secure promotion . Imagine a full away end and full home sides in raptures.a perfect storm for stewarding/ policing . It would end in chaos as there is a minority that would use it as an excuse for disorder. Limiting away fans for this game and keeping home fans out of the north stand is perfectly justified, reasonable and necessary.

Sadly because a few people can’t behave themselves these are very good points.
However I don’t see restrictions for FA Cup Finals,Champions League Semi Finals andFinals World Cup semi and finals. We have many big games this time of year, grounds are for filling, why don’t we do just that? And stop trying to sanitise everything. .

[johnny rovers]

There may be good reason for not opening up the north stand to home fans. Reasons we are not party to.

However….in my opinion cost (of stewarding/policing) should not be one of them.

This is the sort of ‘mega’ game that arises very infrequently and the club should facilitate the opportunity for as many of our fans to see it as possible. This sort of game is the perfect vehicle for growing our fan base.

The only other thing I would add is that in similar circumstances I don’t see other clubs limiting ticket sales. I do wonder if we are a little too cautious and a little too apt to take the path of least resistance rather than pulling out all the stops to make things happen.

Again though we are not party to the decision making so I might be completely wrong!

If the Shadow could raise these legitimate concerns during the close season and feedback that would be appreciated.

[sf9944]

If, as suggested, the safety officer is saying no then the question should be….‘ok what do we need to do to make you say yes’?

The precedent has been set. This has been done previously and recently.

[i_ateallthepies]

There may be good reason for not opening up the north stand to home fans. Reasons we are not party to.

However….in my opinion cost (of stewarding/policing) should not be one of them.

This is the sort of ‘mega’ game that arises very infrequently and the club should facilitate the opportunity for as many of our fans to see it as possible. This sort of game is the perfect vehicle for growing our fan base.

The only other thing I would add is that in similar circumstances I don’t see other clubs limiting ticket sales. I do wonder if we are a little too cautious and a little too apt to take the path of least resistance rather than pulling out all the stops to make things happen.

Again though we are not party to the decision making so I might be completely wrong!

Perhaps it is nothing more complicated than the club may be planning to significantly increase the strength of stewarding at the Black Bank end and are unable to do that and call upon sufficient additional stewards to adequately staff a North stand filled with both home and away fans.  In which case the fans are paying a penalty for the irresponsibility of fans a year previous.

[RoversInSpain]

Can’t see there is a shortage of stewards, Barnsley are at home to the mighty Shrewsbury and Rotherham don’t even play.

[scawsby steve]

What I don't get is why they don't give them the 1500 in the south/east corner and give rovers the allocation behind both goals. We should be looking at doing this next yr in L1 aswell.

You're suggesting we put away fans in the Family Stand?

Sorry pal, North East. Also no doubt it would need some work. But mainly to give us the area behind both goals. I went to Leeds v Swansea a few weeks ago and the away fans are that sort of area, tucked up out the way. There are times when it would give us an advantage having fans behind both goals, on penalties for instance. Even in general play, I always think we prefer playing towards South stand, like our fans pull the ball in to the goal at times....could have that at both ends.

Problem is, I can only think of 3 occasions in the stadium’s lifetime when home fans have been in the north (the free palace game, the donnybob challenge against Swansea and last season against Crewe). The upheaval probably isn’t justified

Notts County at home towards the end of the title winning season 2012/13, CC. The strange thing is that the Rovers fans were seated at the opposite side of the stand to where they were last season against Crewe.

[normal rules]

Can’t see there is a shortage of stewards, Barnsley are at home to the mighty Shrewsbury and Rotherham don’t even play.

Wendies at home to
Pompey