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selby

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Re: Retained list…
« Reply #30 on May 07, 2025, 07:35:23 pm by selby »
  In Faulkner and Flint the club have two very good young players who have smashed two loans and are attracting a lot of interest from other clubs.
  They will both have careers as professional footballers and have the ability to save and could go on to make the club money as they progress, and hopefully contract talks with Faulkner can be agreed with his agent.



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ravenrover

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Re: Retained list…
« Reply #31 on May 07, 2025, 08:19:46 pm by ravenrover »
Acvording to Sky on talks with Lawlor???? Anderson, Olowu, Faulkener and Sharp

Filo

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« Reply #32 on May 07, 2025, 08:20:44 pm by Filo »
If all the players that have been offered new term accept we will already have a squad of 25 players

Upton Rover

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« Reply #33 on May 07, 2025, 08:23:21 pm by Upton Rover »
I do believe that a good team is one that have been together for sometime, so it’s looking good, with I would say 3 new players in and 3 loan players, Lawlor is a big surprise, I would have got rid

Reg of the Rovers

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« Reply #34 on May 07, 2025, 08:24:36 pm by Reg of the Rovers »
I would try and get teddy, crew and kelly back on loan id have street but don't think that's going to happen.

Try get lowe from stoke.

A new CB and forward or 2

If we got that I'd say we are set
Definitely need a mobile talented midfielder. The lad at Salford, Fornah I think, would fit the bill.
He's on his honeymoon, he's just married the Gremlins actress Phoebe Cates, he's hyphenating his name so he's now Fornah-Cates.

Scooter

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« Reply #35 on May 07, 2025, 08:25:30 pm by Scooter »
Lawlor is obviously happy to be a number 2 which is good to have. He is our Scott Carson

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« Reply #36 on May 07, 2025, 08:30:38 pm by IDM »
With exception of Olowu who imo will leave, the 5 loans and Woods = 6 players missing so Grant has got his work cut out if he is to compete with any certainty next season  and loans are often the last players to be recruited ..

Not necessarily, we could bag some decent loans sooner.  Also, GM hasn’t done too badly with recruitment in his 2 spells here has he.?

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« Reply #37 on May 07, 2025, 08:34:12 pm by CheeseToastie »
Lawlor is a great character and by all words a fantastic pro. I know he's happily settled in Donny so if he's happy on the bench why not keep hold of him, saves us signing 2 keepers in the summer or having somebody thrown in the deep end in the worst case scenario

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« Reply #38 on May 07, 2025, 08:36:08 pm by streathamdave »
Almost certainly it will be built into contracts of players we already have that wages will go up on reaching League 1 so wage bill will probably go up regardless. I'm not sure we will get a replacement for Wood as such as Faulkner will be in the squad. We might sign an experienced defender, but a lot might depend on what Olowu does.

Reg of the Rovers

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« Reply #39 on May 07, 2025, 08:36:38 pm by Reg of the Rovers »
We're light a top keeper, two strikers, a league one midfield maestro a la Ben Whiteman, and cover for creative width. If Olowu goes we'd need a League one level centre half - although McGrath and Tom can always do a job and Bailey can cover in there no messing.

Draytonian III

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« Reply #40 on May 07, 2025, 08:40:52 pm by Draytonian III »
I think Billy Sharp will sign, it’s not about money for him, he’ll have earned plenty in the last 20 years as a professional

andyst79

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« Reply #41 on May 07, 2025, 08:59:20 pm by andyst79 »
I'd be looking to get rid of Close , Sbarras a good pro but not good enough for L1 , Clifton similarly but a decent squad player maybe?

BigH

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« Reply #42 on May 07, 2025, 09:04:02 pm by BigH »
Lawlor is obviously happy to be a number 2 which is good to have. He is our Scott Carson
More like Frank Carson

ncRover

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« Reply #43 on May 07, 2025, 09:32:11 pm by ncRover »
We're light a top keeper, two strikers, a league one midfield maestro a la Ben Whiteman, and cover for creative width. If Olowu goes we'd need a League one level centre half - although McGrath and Tom can always do a job and Bailey can cover in there no messing.

I think we need someone out wide with more goal output than Gibson to push him for a starting place. Always remember McCann saying 4-3-3 meant 3 strikers.

Unfortunately, I don’t think there’ll be 2 new centre forwards if we’ve offered Sharp a new deal. A sentimental decision.

Olowu won’t be easy to replace if he goes we need to know if he’s staying ASAP as everyone wants a quick centre half nowadays. And with Anderson and McGrath they need a speedy partner.

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« Reply #44 on May 07, 2025, 10:11:36 pm by NickDRFC »
I think Billy Sharp will sign, it’s not about money for him, he’ll have earned plenty in the last 20 years as a professional

It could be his last year as a pro so conversely he might be looking to maximise his last payday.

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« Reply #45 on May 07, 2025, 10:37:33 pm by 5minstogo »
I think there is a misconception that Billy is on mega bucks. He's well worth keeping on what we're paying. Presumably a slight uplift in League 1 but I think he scores more in League 1..

keyser_soze

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« Reply #46 on May 07, 2025, 10:50:42 pm by keyser_soze »
I think there is a misconception that Billy is on mega bucks. He's well worth keeping on what we're paying. Presumably a slight uplift in League 1 but I think he scores more in League 1..

I think he’s well quoted as saying it was a family/geographical/sentimental decision to return to DRFC rather than a financial one. I expect another 1 year deal will be relatively easy negotiation/decision for all involved if we’ve not taken the piss with wages.

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« Reply #47 on May 07, 2025, 10:58:15 pm by Thorney »
Billy has already stated he wants to stay, so unless the contract offer is very insulting, then i think its pretty certain he stays

Pancho Regan

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« Reply #48 on May 07, 2025, 11:04:41 pm by Pancho Regan »
Well, nothing surprising there.

Except Selby plugging Bobby Faulkner for the 1,000th time.


Draytonian III

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« Reply #49 on May 08, 2025, 01:03:25 am by Draytonian III »
Billy has already stated he wants to stay, so unless the contract offer is very insulting, then i think its pretty certain he stays
I think Billy Sharp will sign, it’s not about money for him, he’ll have earned plenty in the last 20 years as a professional

It could be his last year as a pro so conversely he might be looking to maximise his last payday.

So let’s say Billy’s earned on average £5,000 a week for 20 years he’ll have earned £5.2 million before tax, it’s not about money for him

Cramby10

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« Reply #50 on May 08, 2025, 10:23:43 am by Cramby10 »
Looks like good sound business to me. I would have offered contracts to all who we’re in talks with also.
The biggest quandary to me is a handful of players still under contract. Sbarra, Clifton and Close are just not good enough. Weren’t good enough in league 2 never mind league 1. Get rid.
There’ll be question marks over Zain, Hurst and Ironside too.  I think Zain is a baller myself and is a bit of class that we need. Hurst has had many chances to prove himself and keeps falling short. Is it time to get rid? And Joe. I love him to bits but we’ve had a taste of what a quick, strong, mobile striker can do for us. We need 2. A starter and a back up.
Do we want to go back to slow and ponderous? Personally I’d get rid of both Hurst and Joe.
Can or does Grant want to move these along remains to be seen.
I love this speculation period.

Filo

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« Reply #51 on May 08, 2025, 10:38:07 am by Filo »
Looks like good sound business to me. I would have offered contracts to all who we’re in talks with also.
The biggest quandary to me is a handful of players still under contract. Sbarra, Clifton and Close are just not good enough. Weren’t good enough in league 2 never mind league 1. Get rid.
There’ll be question marks over Zain, Hurst and Ironside too.  I think Zain is a baller myself and is a bit of class that we need. Hurst has had many chances to prove himself and keeps falling short. Is it time to get rid? And Joe. I love him to bits but we’ve had a taste of what a quick, strong, mobile striker can do for us. We need 2. A starter and a back up.
Do we want to go back to slow and ponderous? Personally I’d get rid of both Hurst and Joe.
Can or does Grant want to move these along remains to be seen.
I love this speculation period.

You can’t just get rid of players under contract unless you pay them off, so may as well keep them

Bessie Red

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« Reply #52 on May 08, 2025, 10:43:52 am by Bessie Red »
Billy has already stated he wants to stay, so unless the contract offer is very insulting, then i think its pretty certain he stays
I think Billy Sharp will sign, it’s not about money for him, he’ll have earned plenty in the last 20 years as a professional

It could be his last year as a pro so conversely he might be looking to maximise his last payday.

So let’s say Billy’s earned on average £5,000 a week for 20 years he’ll have earned £5.2 million before tax, it’s not about money for him
I would imagine he would have got a bucket full of dollars for his short stint in the US plus his contract when playing in the Prem would have been very lucrative.  As others have said I don't think he will be wanting much but Rovers must be respectful when offering a new contract to him.

BobG

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« Reply #53 on May 08, 2025, 11:28:13 am by BobG »
That's all very well Draytonian and it may be accurate. But there is another, equally likely possibility: when one earns more, one spends more. Commitments are made, expectations are raised. Mortgages, private schools, private health care for example. When I left BT I doubled my wages and halved my tax bill. But I continued to not have enough money..... Going back to BT now would be a financial impossibility.

None of us know what Billy's commitments and familial expectations are. He could agree to play for buttons. But equally, he may not.

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selby

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« Reply #54 on May 08, 2025, 01:52:39 pm by selby »
  That goes for all them that we are in talks with BobG and at least two of them have offers from other clubs on the table.

Cramby10

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« Reply #55 on May 08, 2025, 02:28:59 pm by Cramby10 »
Looks like good sound business to me. I would have offered contracts to all who we’re in talks with also.
The biggest quandary to me is a handful of players still under contract. Sbarra, Clifton and Close are just not good enough. Weren’t good enough in league 2 never mind league 1. Get rid.
There’ll be question marks over Zain, Hurst and Ironside too.  I think Zain is a baller myself and is a bit of class that we need. Hurst has had many chances to prove himself and keeps falling short. Is it time to get rid? And Joe. I love him to bits but we’ve had a taste of what a quick, strong, mobile striker can do for us. We need 2. A starter and a back up.
Do we want to go back to slow and ponderous? Personally I’d get rid of both Hurst and Joe.
Can or does Grant want to move these along remains to be seen.
I love this speculation period.

You can’t just get rid of players under contract unless you pay them off, so may as well keep them
if you read the penultimate sentence it says can he move them along?  Loans could be arranged or they could be told they’re not in plans and encouraged to look elsewhere. 4 of the 6 would be in demand I would imagine.
And if we’re in position where we ‘may as well play them’ when some are clearly not good enough then we could be in for a rough ride.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2025, 02:44:12 pm by Cramby10 »

Filo

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« Reply #56 on May 08, 2025, 02:58:59 pm by Filo »
Looks like good sound business to me. I would have offered contracts to all who we’re in talks with also.
The biggest quandary to me is a handful of players still under contract. Sbarra, Clifton and Close are just not good enough. Weren’t good enough in league 2 never mind league 1. Get rid.
There’ll be question marks over Zain, Hurst and Ironside too.  I think Zain is a baller myself and is a bit of class that we need. Hurst has had many chances to prove himself and keeps falling short. Is it time to get rid? And Joe. I love him to bits but we’ve had a taste of what a quick, strong, mobile striker can do for us. We need 2. A starter and a back up.
Do we want to go back to slow and ponderous? Personally I’d get rid of both Hurst and Joe.
Can or does Grant want to move these along remains to be seen.
I love this speculation period.

You can’t just get rid of players under contract unless you pay them off, so may as well keep them
if you read the penultimate sentence it says can he move them along?  Loans could be arranged or they could be told they’re not in plans and encouraged to look elsewhere. 4 of the 6 would be in demand I would imagine.
And if we’re in position where we ‘may as well play them’ when some are clearly not good enough then we could be in for a rough ride.

Not sure where I’ve said “may as well play them”

Anyway, my point is, if we were to pay their contract off, it’s money wasted when we could just pay them and keep them in the event of a horrendous injury crisis

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« Reply #57 on May 08, 2025, 04:41:05 pm by Alan Southstand »
It depends on who Grant wants in first and foremost! There will be players coming available that may well be of particular interest to us and if he can get them in, I think he will. Only then he can tell who will be surplus and whether they can be listed.

I can see Close going back Sarff. Westbrook not sure, but he’s done little to cement a place and it was noticeable that Grant brought in 2 midfield loans! Question marks over Hursty also. He’s not really set Scotland ablaze!

It’s going to be an interesting few weeks.

Cramby10

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« Reply #58 on May 08, 2025, 04:44:37 pm by Cramby10 »
Looks like good sound business to me. I would have offered contracts to all who we’re in talks with also.
The biggest quandary to me is a handful of players still under contract. Sbarra, Clifton and Close are just not good enough. Weren’t good enough in league 2 never mind league 1. Get rid.
There’ll be question marks over Zain, Hurst and Ironside too.  I think Zain is a baller myself and is a bit of class that we need. Hurst has had many chances to prove himself and keeps falling short. Is it time to get rid? And Joe. I love him to bits but we’ve had a taste of what a quick, strong, mobile striker can do for us. We need 2. A starter and a back up.
Do we want to go back to slow and ponderous? Personally I’d get rid of both Hurst and Joe.
Can or does Grant want to move these along remains to be seen.
I love this speculation period.

You can’t just get rid of players under contract unless you pay them off, so may as well keep them
if you read the penultimate sentence it says can he move them along?  Loans could be arranged or they could be told they’re not in plans and encouraged to look elsewhere. 4 of the 6 would be in demand I would imagine.
And if we’re in position where we ‘may as well play them’ when some are clearly not good enough then we could be in for a rough ride.

Not sure where I’ve said “may as well play them”

Anyway, my point is, if we were to pay their contract off, it’s money wasted when we could just pay them and keep them in the event of a horrendous injury crisis
never suggested we did

ncRover

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« Reply #59 on May 08, 2025, 05:04:18 pm by ncRover »
If Grant wanted to move on any under contract players there’d be a ‘listed for transfer’ section on the retained list, no?

 

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