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Pancho Regan

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Re: Faulkner??
« Reply #90 on May 23, 2025, 08:53:45 am by Pancho Regan »
@Gaz - You able to see how Faulkner did in NLN?

From his previous post, it appears Selby has all the data at his fingertips.
Perhaps he could share the stats with us in full?



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ravenrover

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Re: Faulkner??
« Reply #91 on May 23, 2025, 09:20:35 am by ravenrover »
I think every player who at times have been considered as a 1st team defender, unlike the youngsters who have been on the bench out of necessity, would be a dominant force in a non league team

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« Reply #92 on May 23, 2025, 09:34:17 am by BobG »
It's clear as day that McCann must be quite a tough bloke. He has all the cards in his hand. He therefore can, and is, playing hardball. That interview is a clear statement that he's publicly backing Faulkner into a corner. You only ever do that when you really don't have a problem with any of the possible outcomes.

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« Last Edit: May 23, 2025, 02:31:03 pm by BobG »

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« Reply #93 on May 23, 2025, 10:48:56 am by Smyth »
Have a read correctly, something claimed on here, Bobby's on around about national living wage, yet has an agent? eff me
« Last Edit: May 23, 2025, 10:51:05 am by Smyth »

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« Reply #94 on May 23, 2025, 11:10:18 am by In the box »
No decision as yet but final decision should be made before the end of the week according to Free Press one way or the other.
If he can get a better contract elsewhere with guarantee of first team football then good luck to him.
McCann says he isn’t likely to get first team football .. it makes you wonder if this is the reason he won’t sign his contract . Grant doesn’t seem not to have got a obvious plan B set up and to lose so may players in one hit is just beginning to show as a budgetary matter… as players are rejecting the offers made .

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« Reply #95 on May 23, 2025, 11:17:08 am by IDM »
We recruited players early last summer and in January.  What makes you think it will be any difference this time around.
Or yet again someone looking to have a pop at the club with no grounds to do so.?

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« Reply #96 on May 23, 2025, 11:18:29 am by graingrover »
Don’t you find that one-to-one chats / discussions / negotiations are best ?

Sven Vath

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« Reply #97 on May 23, 2025, 11:44:23 am by Sven Vath »
No decision as yet but final decision should be made before the end of the week according to Free Press one way or the other.
If he can get a better contract elsewhere with guarantee of first team football then good luck to him.
McCann says he isn’t likely to get first team football .. it makes you wonder if this is the reason he won’t sign his contract . Grant doesn’t seem not to have got a obvious plan B set up and to lose so may players in one hit is just beginning to show as a budgetary matter… as players are rejecting the offers made .

Some said this last year.... and then we won the league.

In Grant we trust

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« Reply #98 on May 23, 2025, 12:05:06 pm by Leedsrover »
In my opinion the team that won League 2 is not good enough to be top end of league 1 and I think Grant knows this.Players who were out on loan were not good enough for our League 2 team and I believe Grant thinks they are not good enough to step up at this time. Hence Goodman,Kuleya , Degruchy etc have left the club. The budget surely has to be spent on players who can help us compete next season. There is no room for sentiment in football at any level.It is a very subjective comparison to view performances at Buxton with what we will need against Cardiff City, for example.
That said we we need to identify and develop players through our ranks and I think Bobby is worth a contract looking to the future, but the value of the contract offered must reflect the priorities for next season.     

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« Reply #99 on May 23, 2025, 01:16:40 pm by Nudga »
No decision as yet but final decision should be made before the end of the week according to Free Press one way or the other.
If he can get a better contract elsewhere with guarantee of first team football then good luck to him.
McCann says he isn’t likely to get first team football .. it makes you wonder if this is the reason he won’t sign his contract . Grant doesn’t seem not to have got a obvious plan B set up and to lose so may players in one hit is just beginning to show as a budgetary matter… as players are rejecting the offers made .

How do you know it wasn't just location/fresh challenge that was the reason for not renewing?

Also, what Grant thinks a player is worth and what an agent thinks they're worth are probably miles apart.

Not sure why it's always deemed as Rovers fault? Maybe in Blunts tenure but not now.

Usher wide.

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« Reply #100 on May 23, 2025, 01:52:46 pm by Usher wide. »
In my opinion the team that won League 2 is not good enough to be top end of league 1 and I think Grant knows this.Players who were out on loan were not good enough for our League 2 team and I believe Grant thinks they are not good enough to step up at this time. Hence Goodman,Kuleya , Degruchy etc have left the club. The budget surely has to be spent on players who can help us compete next season. There is no room for sentiment in football at any level.It is a very subjective comparison to view performances at Buxton with what we will need against Cardiff City, for example.
That said we we need to identify and develop players through our ranks and I think Bobby is worth a contract looking to the future, but the value of the contract offered must reflect the priorities for next season.   

Well put.

I think you’ve just about encapsulated why Grant has taken the stance he has. Grant has stated that he doesn’t want to ‘just float around’ in league 1 but seems determined to put a side out that can really compete with some good sides that not too long ago were playing in the Premiership.

I would have given you a ‘like’ but the first part of your user name put paid to that!

BobG

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« Reply #101 on May 23, 2025, 02:05:10 pm by BobG »
No, no Usher Wide! Surely every single post Leeds Hayter posts should get a thousand likes?? Anybody from Leeds who supports God's team should be lauded at every opportunity! Especially given the glorious pun embedded in his username :):)

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Sven Vath

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« Reply #102 on May 23, 2025, 02:16:14 pm by Sven Vath »
In my opinion the team that won League 2 is not good enough to be top end of league 1 and I think Grant knows this.Players who were out on loan were not good enough for our League 2 team and I believe Grant thinks they are not good enough to step up at this time. Hence Goodman,Kuleya , Degruchy etc have left the club. The budget surely has to be spent on players who can help us compete next season. There is no room for sentiment in football at any level.It is a very subjective comparison to view performances at Buxton with what we will need against Cardiff City, for example.
That said we we need to identify and develop players through our ranks and I think Bobby is worth a contract looking to the future, but the value of the contract offered must reflect the priorities for next season.   

I'm happy with mid table. Then you look at teams like lincoln who finished there and the player they were able to loan out.

Just a few good additions could transform this team, but some need to step up.

Let's take Cops who was able to do this.

We have to trust our manager to make the right decisions.

Pancho Regan

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« Reply #103 on May 23, 2025, 08:59:50 pm by Pancho Regan »
We can give a lot of credit to Lincoln for having such a depth of talent in their squad that they could afford to loan out a player like Rob Street who was surplus to their requirements.

Or we could say they really didn’t know or appreciate what they had.

Time will tell.

The devil in me wants to make sure we finish above Lincoln next season in order to prove a point.

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« Reply #104 on May 24, 2025, 01:14:49 am by PDX_Rover »
If Faulkner thinks he can do better elsewhere, let him go. Grant wants him to continue his career with Rovers. That’s it.

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« Reply #105 on May 24, 2025, 01:59:38 am by boro_rover »
I think GM is playing this one well. Faulkner isn’t ready to play at league 1 level as he wasn’t ready to play in league 2 last year.

Faulkner may have to accept less in wages than he was expecting to stay here. But long term he has security, the opportunity to develop around better players and coaches at this level than he would in the national league.

I would imagine Bobbys agent is trying to maximise his cut by trying to make him hold out for a better deal. But GM probably feels indifferent about Bobby with regard to what he can currently contribute to the club, versus his ceiling of potential.

I would like to see him sign on and see what he can achieve with us, but if he goes to pastures new I have every confidence that Grant can bring in another prospect at the same level.

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« Reply #106 on May 24, 2025, 04:16:04 am by les@donr »
As things stand, there can be only one winner, and it isn’t Bobby. He is being poorly advised by his agent.
« Last Edit: May 24, 2025, 11:26:10 pm by les@donr »

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« Reply #107 on May 24, 2025, 07:01:55 am by Filo »
Every other contract offer was sorted out either way by the deadline last Monday, why is he afforded an extension to that deadline? The ship has sailed in my eyes, he goes and we get development compensation

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« Reply #108 on May 24, 2025, 08:30:44 am by keith79 »
Offered contract = compensation.

Filo

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« Reply #109 on May 24, 2025, 08:38:08 am by Filo »
Offered contract = compensation.
Thats already happened, he rejected the contract offer 2 days after the deadline

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« Reply #110 on May 24, 2025, 09:59:13 am by roversdude »
I’d have loved Bobby to stay, but I guess we will now see how highly the other team’s watching him rate him

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« Reply #111 on May 24, 2025, 10:28:06 am by Spud »
Offered contract = compensation.
Thats already happened, he rejected the contract offer 2 days after the deadline

I'm guessing he's saying that's why we offered a contract, so as to be entitles to the compensation.

Filo

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« Reply #112 on May 24, 2025, 10:43:14 am by Filo »
Offered contract = compensation.
Thats already happened, he rejected the contract offer 2 days after the deadline

I'm guessing he's saying that's why we offered a contract, so as to be entitles to the compensation.

Thats probably the case, effectively he’s been released by offering an unacceptable contract, knowing we’ll get compensation for him

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« Reply #113 on May 24, 2025, 10:47:17 am by sedwardsdrfc »
The compensation thing is a smart move by the club if he’s got serious interest from bigger clubs.

But if it’s not the case surely the compensation panel can’t expect non league clubs to pay any real money if he’s drops down to play regular. If that means he can’t get an offer from a NL side and is basically in a stay at Rovers or forget pro football situation then I actually think it’s not a great look for

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« Reply #114 on May 24, 2025, 11:30:53 am by Thorney »
Bobby needs to sit down and have a real think of what he wants and sod what an agent or anyone else advises.

Is it so bad that he stays and spends anotger year loaned out to angood NL team at only 21.

Unless he has intrest from a league 2 team or lower then he will only end up either loaned out or not making a matchday squad because i cant see a team higher than us taking him on to put straight into the 1st team.

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« Reply #115 on May 24, 2025, 12:16:24 pm by Ian Nimmo »
Really not sure on making any comments specifically about Bobby, except that whatever the outcome I hope he makes a good decision and gets a future in the game.

However what seems clear to me is that our academy is just not working. Since we elevated our league position to the championship, we are still not producing any young players to play at a decent L2 standard or above.

Therefore questionable if we should be continuing to invest any real money into the academy?

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« Reply #116 on May 24, 2025, 01:11:17 pm by Danmckay456 »
Probably because most decent young kids in our area get signed up from a very young age by bigger local sides or elite premier league teams , that’s where we have to improve not just getting kids in for the sake to make teams and numbers up.

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« Reply #117 on May 24, 2025, 01:33:23 pm by Chris Black come back »
Putting Faulkner to one side, there are three lads in Flint, Williams and Straughan-Brown that have played or been favoured under McCann, and will have a chance of making the squad in League One. If one or two of that group play next season in some form, that’s a decent output from the academy set up.

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« Reply #118 on May 24, 2025, 02:12:16 pm by In the box »
No decision as yet but final decision should be made before the end of the week according to Free Press one way or the other.
If he can get a better contract elsewhere with guarantee of first team football then good luck to him.
McCann says he isn’t likely to get first team football .. it makes you wonder if this is the reason he won’t sign his contract . Grant doesn’t seem not to have got a obvious plan B set up and to lose so may players in one hit is just beginning to show as a budgetary matter… as players are rejecting the offers made .

Some said this last year.... and then we won the league.

In Grant we trust
We had three recognised central defenders and four with McGarth now we have NONE !! Win the league without them then ?

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« Reply #119 on May 24, 2025, 02:17:10 pm by Barmby Rover »
No decision as yet but final decision should be made before the end of the week according to Free Press one way or the other.
If he can get a better contract elsewhere with guarantee of first team football then good luck to him.
McCann says he isn’t likely to get first team football .. it makes you wonder if this is the reason he won’t sign his contract . Grant doesn’t seem not to have got a obvious plan B set up and to lose so may players in one hit is just beginning to show as a budgetary matter… as players are rejecting the offers made .

Some said this last year.... and then we won the league.

In Grant we trust
We had three recognised central defenders and four with McGarth now we have NONE !! Win the league without them then ?

It must have made Williams feel very wanted, he was impressive when he played in the (Carabao?) cup game, and could spring a surprise in the way McGrath has this season, but we still need a couple of centre backs.

 

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