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[DonnyBazR0ver]

Tell me, seriously Michael Shaw, what your qualifications and experience are that allows you state, categorically, that the Rovers sustainability strategy is "poorly thought out" and "mediocre". Seriously, if you can justify those statements with evidence and proper qualifications then I'd take them a lot more seriously than I do right now. At the moment I'm a follower of Hitchens Razor and Professor Cox. For the former:

"An assertion made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"

and for the latter:

 "The problem with today’s world is that everyone believes they have the right to express their opinion AND have others listen to it. The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense".

Over to you

BobG

My evidence Bobg  is there for all to see if you pay attention.

With Ryan, Watson and Bramall as owners we rose up to the Championship. With just Bramall we have been in League Two for three years. Isn’t it obvious. With massive funding Wrexham proved what funding can do, and with one owner controlling the purse strings Doncaster will never be a Wrexham.

Collapsing down into the lowest tier is hardly going promote support for the club and that support needs to be rebuilt.
I have said similar time and time again, but if some can’t absorb common sense then there is nothing more I can do.

I am calm, because I don’t have a season ticket and don’t personally attend many matches so I am not as emotional as most posters on here.  You just spout off your opinion, like others that live on this forum with a massive number of posts, but don’t provide intelligent arguments yourself against views like mine.

We were once a Championship side and look where we have been for three years.  Fact.

Your evidence has as many holes as Swiss Cheese.

Yes, we were a Championship but you forgot to mention we couldn't sustain it and why.

Ipswich and Wrexham have a far bigger catchment area and can call upon 30k attendances. If you haven't watched any of the many videos about why the Wrexham ownership chose them above other clubs including Hartlepool. They did their homework. Both those clubs potential income would blow ours out of the water.

[silent majority]

Preston had an operating loss of £20.2m in 2022, £14.4m in 2023 and £14.4m again. in 2024. Over the last decade their wage bill has more than tripled and they’ve gone from an operating profit of  £17.4m to a loss of £14.4m. Since 2020 they have booked a cumulative loss of £90.3m. 

That’s not the same as what the owner puts in, though.

Just had a look myself and in the 2022/23 figures £9.5m was put in and in the 2023/24 it was £9.8m. 2024/25 figures aren’t publicly available yet. Still eye watering figures.

Whichever way you look at it though the owners are underwriting a loss of £90m in the last 5 years.

It was covered in an EFL report a couple of years ago when an overseas buyer was asking how much it would cost to own and run an EFL club. I’ll see if I can find it.

[BobG]

And Michael Shaw used a helluva lot of words to not answer the question. Hardly surprising though. It's always the empty vessels that make the most noise.

BobG

[Michael Shaw]

If I just say "BobG you are pompous literary muppet” then I haven’t  said enough. If I explain myself you say “ Michael Shaw used a helluva lot of words to not answer the question”.

Since when were Hitchens Razor and Professor Cox Rovers fans, or got anything to do with following Doncaster Rovers?  And you accuse me of using lots of words!!  And why do you think I have to explain anything to you or anyone else? We  are all entitled to our own opinions.

[BobG]

Still using plenty of words to avoid answering the question...

Crack on mate. We know what you are: an empty vessel that just goes on and on making the same fatuous noises - never constructive, never offering evidence,  always running away.

BobG