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Barmby Rover

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« on May 30, 2025, 04:34:19 pm by Barmby Rover »
For promotion next season 10/1, as champions 35/1, I have put a (very) few quid on those.

Dingles 11/2 and 18/1

I wonder if they would do a bet that Rovers finish above ...... say the Dingles, and what price that would be? I would put money on that!



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karldew

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« Reply #1 on May 30, 2025, 04:35:41 pm by karldew »
For promotion next season 10/1, as champions 35/1, I have put a (very) few quid on those.

Dingles 11/2 and 18/1

I wonder if they would do a bet that Rovers finish above ...... say the Dingles, and what price that would be? I would put money on that!

I’m sure sky bet do a ‘finish above’ bet. Might have to wait for the season to start, but you can definitely do it somewhere.

BerlinRed

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« Reply #2 on May 30, 2025, 04:39:20 pm by BerlinRed »
ChatGPT has us finishing 11th. I'll take that.

LincsRover

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« Reply #3 on May 30, 2025, 04:49:37 pm by LincsRover »
£10 each way at 40/1 to be champions (1/4 odds 1,2,3) and £30 on us to be promoted at 12/1. Bet365. Come on rovers!  :boxing:

Barmby Rover

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« Reply #4 on May 30, 2025, 05:18:04 pm by Barmby Rover »
Good luck LR. I hope we are both profitable at the end of the season, but I wouldn't ne too disappointed with 11th either this season.

ncRover

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« Reply #5 on May 30, 2025, 05:52:10 pm by ncRover »
Sky bet has us 17th favourite to win the league

Bradford 13th for some bizarre reason.

No season long bets for me this year after my cash out disaster

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« Reply #6 on May 30, 2025, 06:06:55 pm by Chris Black come back »
It’s not the same metric but I would be absolutely fine with finishing 17th.

scawsby steve

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« Reply #7 on May 30, 2025, 06:16:15 pm by scawsby steve »
It’s not the same metric but I would be absolutely fine with finishing 17th.

I doubt that Terry, Gavin, and Grant would be fine with that.

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« Reply #8 on May 30, 2025, 06:37:17 pm by Chris Black come back »
Sure, we all hope to do better than that, but we also need to be realistic. Our budget is likely bottom third so finishing in the bottom third would be par. Not bad for a transition year. It is going to be a very tough league next season.

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« Reply #9 on May 30, 2025, 07:01:56 pm by RoversInSpain »
Sure, we all hope to do better than that, but we also need to be realistic. Our budget is likely bottom third so finishing in the bottom third would be par. Not bad for a transition year. It is going to be a very tough league next season.
Why is our budget bottom third? This club is on a revival, we are told we are getting extra coaches/coach, the medical team has been totally revamped, we appear to be keeping our best players, I don’t think keeping Molly,Sterry, Maxwell, Bailey and Sharp is particularly bottom third. I think we need to start recognising what certain people are putting very generously into the club and hopefully with cup runs v Palace and Everton + being Champions has given them a little bit back or at least a warm feeling.
McCann is a Championship manager with big ambition, it’s good we don’t promote the fact we have a solid financial backing, but I’ll be very surprised if we are not set up for a playoff position next season.

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« Reply #10 on May 30, 2025, 07:11:27 pm by Chris Black come back »
It’s bottom third because there are two thirds of clubs in League One with a bigger budget. Bolton (£15m), Wigan (£11m) and Blackpool (£10m) all finished nowhere last season but will have by and large wage bills double our wage bill. Clubs can always outperform their budget but the budget is usually the greatest determinant of success. We will have a bottom third budget in League One next season. That we are at that level is neither good nor bad but the reality.
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scawsby steve

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« Reply #11 on May 30, 2025, 07:22:30 pm by scawsby steve »
Sure, we all hope to do better than that, but we also need to be realistic. Our budget is likely bottom third so finishing in the bottom third would be par. Not bad for a transition year. It is going to be a very tough league next season.

I agree that we need to be realistic, but the reality is that a bottom half finish is highly unlikely to be followed by a successful season, because all the evidence stacks up against it.

For a start, the better players, particularly the loans, are likely to want to move on to better things, meaning yet another team rebuild.

Also, attendances are likely to drop in the second half of the season, impacting on revenue, and the following season's ST sales could also take a hit.

I've never understood the words "transition" and "consolidation" that some fans relate to. To me momentum is everything, and I'm sure that's what Terry, Gavin, and Grant will be aiming for.

Yes, it's going to be tough, but if we finish in the bottom half, I don't see then why anyone would expect the next season to be any different.

Sammy Chung was King

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« Reply #12 on May 30, 2025, 07:32:03 pm by Sammy Chung was King »
I think every season you should start off wanting to be champions, you can’t start off saying I want to stay up. To win the title the manager would need to overachieve with the funds he is likely to get.

We have in our favour the fact we are used to winning from being promoted, but the negative is we have lost our striking focal point in Street. He has to be replaced. Crew has to be replaced another of our main players in the latter half of the season. We’ve lost our backline centrally, so that needs rebuilding.

I think the odds are a bit stingy looking at the problems we need to fix. It’s all dependent on the players the manager can bring in.

RoversInSpain

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« Reply #13 on May 30, 2025, 08:07:30 pm by RoversInSpain »
Gillingham had a big budget apparently so did MK Dons.
To me this is not about how much money you chuck at something it’s about getting the right people in the right places (players with the correct characters), off the field,David Rennie who was part of Leicester’s rise from League 1 to Premier league Champions, totally professional set up (apparently the Cantley renovations bring these facilities upto top end Championship)
To me these type of activities far outweigh buying a £2mill player.
We have folk saying we’ve lost Street, Olowu, Crew etc, well we lost Adelukan, Craig and TLT from a record equaling 10 match winning streak, but because we’ve got the right people we replaced them and won a title. We will replace again, even though we have allegedly a bottom end budget. That’s because we’ve got quality people looking after things, which the big spenders don’t have and that’s why they have to try and buy their way to success.

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« Reply #14 on May 30, 2025, 10:38:09 pm by LincsRover »
Good luck LR. I hope we are both profitable at the end of the season, but I wouldn't ne too disappointed with 11th either this season.

Me too but always the optimist! My bets are paid for from this years winnings and something I do every year. You win some you lose some!

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« Reply #15 on May 30, 2025, 11:08:33 pm by danumdon »
I think we can say with some certainty that every season the GM has ben involved with the club has had us achieve certain targets, i don't see any reason why next season he can't achieve again.

We as a lower league team will always require to rebuild a team after a successful season, its something we've always had to do, i don't see any reason why GM wont be given the means to get in players who are going to be the equals or better to what we have lost. With the momentum we have from last season and the added impetus of new blood i think we can catch a few napping, if that happens early on who knows where it will take us.

We need to build on what we are creating here. All those big names in league 1 next season are just that names, we should fear no one.

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« Reply #16 on May 31, 2025, 08:26:09 am by ncRover »
I’d be happy with a mid table finish and like a loyal supporter I’d still turn up the season after that if so!

I actually think it’s a healthy and positive approach to be content with that. Rather that than expecting a season after promotion to be plain sailing and then being miserable when it likely isn’t.

It’s never boring with a McCann team, you can count on that.

Barmby Rover

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« Reply #17 on May 31, 2025, 08:29:35 am by Barmby Rover »
I think every season you should start off wanting to be champions, you can’t start off saying I want to stay up. To win the title the manager would need to overachieve with the funds he is likely to get.

We have in our favour the fact we are used to winning from being promoted, but the negative is we have lost our striking focal point in Street. He has to be replaced. Crew has to be replaced another of our main players in the latter half of the season. We’ve lost our backline centrally, so that needs rebuilding.

I think the odds are a bit stingy looking at the problems we need to fix. It’s all dependent on the players the manager can bring in.

That's PL thinking, and why that league isn't worth watching.

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« Reply #18 on May 31, 2025, 08:31:24 am by Frankie Rennie »
Good to see some positivity on here and no reason to suggest Donny shouldn’t be at least in the top half and even pushing for top six. I know Wrexham were a special case but look how well Stockport and Mansfield also did so maybe the step up isn’t as massive as some think. Even the teams coming down from the Championship don’t look that threatening and seem likely to lost their best players. If you can keep your best and find a few good additions or loans who knows? Look at Orient, fighting off relegation the season before but the three loans they brought in, particularly Kelman turned them round. Kelman had been on multiple loans previously and done nothing but last year was amazing so you just never know. If you can be lucky and find the right ones anything can happen and let’s be honest whether it’s Donny or Wanderers if we can’t be optimistic now then when can we?

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« Reply #19 on May 31, 2025, 11:21:55 am by ncRover »
Good to see some positivity on here and no reason to suggest Donny shouldn’t be at least in the top half and even pushing for top six. I know Wrexham were a special case but look how well Stockport and Mansfield also did so maybe the step up isn’t as massive as some think. Even the teams coming down from the Championship don’t look that threatening and seem likely to lost their best players. If you can keep your best and find a few good additions or loans who knows? Look at Orient, fighting off relegation the season before but the three loans they brought in, particularly Kelman turned them round. Kelman had been on multiple loans previously and done nothing but last year was amazing so you just never know. If you can be lucky and find the right ones anything can happen and let’s be honest whether it’s Donny or Wanderers if we can’t be optimistic now then when can we?

Wrexham and Stockport are outliers with their financial backing.
Crawley went straight back down and Mansfield nearly did too.

The teams that went up the year before that (Orient, Stevenage, Northampton) are more realistic for us to look at as a marker. They finished 9th, 11th and 14th respectively.

But of course the league standards are changing all the time.

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« Reply #20 on May 31, 2025, 05:59:45 pm by Smyth »
Any odds on Sir Keir Rodney turning up in Donny, anywhere but more particularly the St Leger race day, no freebies in the Royal Box so no pretending he's long had affection for the area and race, looking looooong odds against taking the field.
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« Reply #21 on May 31, 2025, 06:07:55 pm by Chris Black come back »
His wife's family are from Doncaster.

 

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