A stain on our club!

[IDM]

I once told off 2 fellas that were consistently effing and jeffing because it was unnecessary and I had a young grandson with me, they told me to eff off into the family stand.
The family stand is good for the concourse pre match and half time entertainment and the Donny dog club, but surely the south stand isn’t just for adults only?
 

To be honest, if I was taking a primary school age child to football, I’d use the family stand.

My previous work manager is/was a Peterborough fan. Took his lad then aged 12/13 with him, letting him know that he would hear bad language, and maybe even use it himself.  Made a rule that he wasn’t allowed to repeat it anywhere else, particularly at home.  As far as I can tell, it worked.

[Jimmydee]

My grandson will be familiar with foul language but at times it’s not necessary in different environments and I’m a season ticket holder in the south stand, so I’m not going to be bullied into the family stand when I’m encouraging my grandson to come to watch the rovers.
I was polite and civil when I spoke to the two potty mouths and I think that they were embarrassed as well as being ignorant and rude.

[normal rules]

The club needs its own dedicated Police FLO. Never going to happen with current levels of pol or staffing around the country. A dedicated officer would know who these are and working with the club would ensure an immediate club home ban.

[silent majority]

The club needs its own dedicated Police FLO. Never going to happen with current levels of pol or staffing around the country. A dedicated officer would know who these are and working with the club would ensure an immediate club home ban.

They pretty much do. We share ours with Barnsley as a general rule.

Could be different these days but that’s generally how it’s done.

[CheeseToastie]

I went to Millwall in 2008, hammered them and won 3-0.  Not even a whiff of trouble.

I know they are only a stones throw away from each other but the new den compared to the old den and world's away from each other that old den just intimidated you walking upto it you were just expecting something to happen and 9/10 times it did the new den is just totally different and same as you've already said I've been a couple of times and never had any bother couldn't fault their fans at all

[IDM]

The New Den has (had.?) a caged walkway linking the away stand to South Bermondsey station.  However there is no segregation on the platforms.  That day I went, I think I the home fans were just stunned by how we had blown them away on the pitch.  Might had been different if it was a closer game and they had lost due to a bad ref decision.

I’m not the sort to go looking for trouble either.

I remember that abandoned game at Charlton, when away fans were going back to the station.  A local bobby was getting dogs abuse from some of our lot for simply directing folks to the platform on the station.  Then some of our less mature fans were goading Charlton fans from the safety of the platforms being separated by railway lines..

It’s pointless. 

[selby]

  If as reported the main protagonist in this situation has not been at the game  and the offence was made in an area not in the immediate area of the ground policed by stewards, then in my mind although the club are implicated by association and it is not a good look it is a matter for the police who it looks like never recognised a situation could occur.
  I have seen at many local derby's and certain teams like Grimsby fans being escorted from the ground to town, and heavy policing of certain road junctions.
  Perhaps with the bigger away followings expected this season , especially some of the larger clubs involved the police should be more in evidence between the town and the stadium. and a designated route for away fans only close to the ground.
  Just observing local games against

[Ian Nimmo]

Selby, the trouble and harassment of these two fans started at the west/north corner of the perimeter and was viewed by fans who do not post on here.
So without any doubt, within the stadium perimeter prior to exiting onto the main road.

[Jenny]

My grandson will be familiar with foul language but at times it’s not necessary in different environments and I’m a season ticket holder in the south stand, so I’m not going to be bullied into the family stand when I’m encouraging my grandson to come to watch the rovers.
I was polite and civil when I spoke to the two potty mouths and I think that they were embarrassed as well as being ignorant and rude.

No one would expect you to be 'bullied' into moving into the family stand just because you have kids, but at the same time, you shouldn't expect people to not use foul language because there are kids around them just because you have chosen not to sit in a stand where you wouldn't come across that. It works both ways.

We've been taking our young kids to the football since they were babies, they have heard all sorts of language, they know not to repeat it. We don't sit in the family stand now, but we did for a couple of seasons and that is the only place I would pull people up if I thought their language was out of order around kids.

[Jimmydee]

Yes, my grandson has heard all of the obscenities, the effing and jeffing was aimed at our own players that they didn’t think that were worthy of wearing a rovers shirt, also suggesting our players breaking an opponent’s legs.
The aggression was vile. Should it be acceptable in the South stand?

[idler]

When I was younger you never swore in front of ladies or children full stop. If you did swear and saw a lady in earshot you apologised immediately.
There was far less swearing in films and on tv in those days. I think that the first time that the f word was used on tv was on TW3 about 1965. Personally I prefer not to sit near somebody who screams obscenities at the top of their voice for 90 minutes.

[sf9944]

JimmyDee poses the question…

Is it acceptable for fans to scream vile obscenities in the south stand? Especially in the presence of kids.

I’m interested to hear what people think.

Perhaps people who think it’s unacceptable to scream for a rovers player to break the legs of an opponent are just ‘woke’?

[BobG]

Or perhaps they're  not?

BobG

[Ldr]

You’re only offended if you choose to be.

[DRFC_AjA]

JimmyDee poses the question…

Is it acceptable for fans to scream vile obscenities in the south stand? Especially in the presence of kids.

I’m interested to hear what people think.

Perhaps people who think it’s unacceptable to scream for a rovers player to break the legs of an opponent are just ‘woke’?

Why is this conversation focusing on the south stand the same thing can be heard in every stand at the KM and at every English ground. Not sure why south is being singled out

[idler]

I don’t hear much where I sit in the West Stand to be fair.

[ridgewoodrover]

I never ever heard my dad use bad language. I’m now 64 , suppose that generation were made of different material .                                                                                                  He was know shrinking violet either, born and bred in Hyde park

[Scooter]

My daughter turns 5 tomorrow and I’ll be bringing her to her first rovers game at some point soon. I have season tickets in the south stand so I’ll be bringing in there albeit I’ll move away from the central area
The family stand is great for pre match stuff and face painting but dire for any kind of atmosphere

[roversontheup]

JimmyDee poses the question…

Is it acceptable for fans to scream vile obscenities in the south stand? Especially in the presence of kids.

I’m interested to hear what people think.

Perhaps people who think it’s unacceptable to scream for a rovers player to break the legs of an opponent are just ‘woke’?

I've never really understood why foul language is so accepted at football matches. My late Dad would always turn and say there were enough words in the English (or any other) language without resorting to foul language. Different times now but still applies. Football is for everyone so why should we accept it? I confess I put up with most things but some words are just totally unacceptable to me and I will always pull people up if I hear it.

[EasyforDennis]

The kids don't hear anything different to what they hear in the school playground. It's part of growing up. As long as they don't use it in front of me then I am ok with it. If I hear them swearing in front of me they get told not to do it.

[Nudga]

Who's the silly Billy in the black?

The referee's a rather annoying fellow.

Get your lanyard out for the lads.

Rotherhams a rabbit hole, I want to go home.

Whooooo the chuffin eck are you.

Poo ground, no fans

You're gonna get your silly head custard pie'd in.

[ravenrover]

Whilst I only knew my Dad for 10years of my life I never heard anything worse than bloody or bugger as an expletive and he was a pit man! And that was 60 odd years ago.

[RobTheRover]

Whilst I only knew my Dad for 10years of my life I never heard anything worse than bloody or bugger as an expletive and he was a pit man! And that was 60 odd years ago.

Same. I remember hearing my dad say bas**rd once when I was about 18 and I was shocked to the core.

8 years today since he passed away too, so that thought has made me smile.

[scawsby steve]

Yeah, teachers and parents never used bad language in front of kids in the 1950s.

They just beat the crap out of them instead.

[Dagenham Rover]

Theres a distinct line I f and jeff like a trooper ( ok I was in the Army for 12+ years) when I'm with the lads so to speak. However with strangers socially and  even at football  its a no no, yes it is easily moderated. Kids, strangers, ladies Nah

[Goole Rover]

Yeah, teachers and parents never used bad language in front of kids in the 1950s.

They just beat the crap out of them instead.

My Dad served four years in Burma, his mate told me that he never heard him swear during the time that they were out there. He never laid a finger on me.
Looking at previous posts you seem to be getting a bit of a battering old boy.

[ravenrover]

Yeah, teachers and parents never used bad language in front of kids in the 1950s.

They just beat the crap out of them instead.

My Dad served four years in Burma, his mate told me that he never heard him swear during the time that they were out there. He never laid a finger on me.
Looking at previous posts you seem to be getting a bit of a battering old boy.

Likewise my wifes Dad. After Burmha, which he would very rarely talk about,  he went back to the pit. He never laid a finger on either of his kids and the worst I heard him come out with was flippin/floppin eck

[scawsby steve]

Yeah, teachers and parents never used bad language in front of kids in the 1950s.

They just beat the crap out of them instead.

My Dad served four years in Burma, his mate told me that he never heard him swear during the time that they were out there. He never laid a finger on me.
Looking at previous posts you seem to be getting a bit of a battering old boy.

"Seem" is in the present tense, GR. I'm talking about the past, and yes, I did get more than a bit of a battering, as did lots of kids. Some of the teachers in those days were sadistic psychopaths, and would have been in prison nowadays.

As regards dads, many of you on here don't know you're born, with dads that never laid a finger on you, and in many cases took you to football and other events.

To be honest, most of my mates also had lovely dads, which is why I spent most of my time at their houses, and left home at 17.

It's also the reason that I live for my grandkids, making sure they get all the things that I never had, and that no-one hurts them.

[ravenrover]

Which schools did you go to SS?

[moses]

I went to Hatfield HS and got some good hidings from the teachers in the 80’s. Being picked up by the hairs on your neck was particular favourite of the science teacher.