Molyneux

[rich1471]

Bailey (who some people have said wasn’t fantastic yesterday) and O’Riordan aside, has any player been stand out amazing? Not really. Yet we’ve had an unreal set of results so far, driven by very good team performances. Would definitely take the latter.

Five league games in and we are nearly a quarter of the way there to staying up!

As you say, Five league games in and we are nearly a quarter of the way there to staying up! or 2 ppg is promotion form better to look at the positives in live ,also I'm not knocking your post ,just some posters on here are always negative

[GazLaz]

Bailey (who some people have said wasn’t fantastic yesterday) and O’Riordan aside, has any player been stand out amazing? Not really. Yet we’ve had an unreal set of results so far, driven by very good team performances. Would definitely take the latter.

Five league games in and we are nearly a quarter of the way there to staying up!

Broadbent has been good as has Gotts when he has played. I think there has been some really strong performers this season so far.

[Usher wide.]

Bailey (who some people have said wasn’t fantastic yesterday) and O’Riordan aside, has any player been stand out amazing? Not really. Yet we’ve had an unreal set of results so far, driven by very good team performances. Would definitely take the latter.

Five league games in and we are nearly a quarter of the way there to staying up!

Broadbent has been good as has Gotts when he has played. I think there has been some really strong performers this season so far.

I’d add the “one trick pony” to that group. The one who cut the ball back for Bails to guide into the net.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Bailey (who some people have said wasn’t fantastic yesterday) and O’Riordan aside, has any player been stand out amazing? Not really. Yet we’ve had an unreal set of results so far, driven by very good team performances. Would definitely take the latter.

Five league games in and we are nearly a quarter of the way there to staying up!

Broadbent has been good as has Gotts when he has played. I think there has been some really strong performers this season so far.

Yes and then you think of Nixon and Senior who've coped well with the move up a level. Middleton is settling in nicely where he's doing what it said on his tin with good crossing ability plus I think there's more to come with goals, set pieces etc. Gibson isn't doing too bad either and doesn't look out of place.

We were concerned about centre backs and possibly having to play Bailey there but this area is strong with O'Riordon, Pearson and Grehan looking very comfortable.

As we plot our way through the fixture schedule, Carling Cup, EFL Trophy then FA Cup, just as we did last season, we'll see McCann shuffle the pack even though we might bemoan the lack of a 'settled' team.

Come the mid season review in January if we are well placed in the top half, then the last two seasons should give us confidence we can finish strongly in the run in, when it's more likely we'll establish a 'settled' team. 

Up to game 10 we'll know more about what we're capable of. Still too early to judge this league when results are unpredictable and no club looks superior yet.

[scawsby steve]

It's a good job he provided the 2 assists at Mansfield, and stuck the penalty away against Exeter, or that would have been 5 points down the pan.

[NickDRFC]

It's a good job he provided the 2 assists at Mansfield, and stuck the penalty away against Exeter, or that would have been 5 points down the pan.

I really rate Moly and think it’s mad that people are complaining about him (not that I’ve really seen it) but we have other players who could have stuck that penalty away.

[scawsby steve]

It's a good job he provided the 2 assists at Mansfield, and stuck the penalty away against Exeter, or that would have been 5 points down the pan.

I really rate Moly and think it’s mad that people are complaining about him (not that I’ve really seen it) but we have other players who could have stuck that penalty away.

Or they could have missed. Let's stick to facts, Nick, not conjecture.

[NickDRFC]

It's a good job he provided the 2 assists at Mansfield, and stuck the penalty away against Exeter, or that would have been 5 points down the pan.

I really rate Moly and think it’s mad that people are complaining about him (not that I’ve really seen it) but we have other players who could have stuck that penalty away.

Or they could have missed. Let's stick to facts, Nick, not conjecture.

It’s also conjecture to say that we’d have 2 points fewer from that game if he’d missed the penalty. Someone might have stuck away the rebound, or another taker might have scored, or we might have scored from open play, or Exeter might have broken away and scored again costing us 3 points, or…

It’s impossible to say, the only fact is that we won and he scored a penalty, not that we won because he scored a penalty. Even though it was a huge contribution!

[Petche]

It's a good job he provided the 2 assists at Mansfield, and stuck the penalty away against Exeter, or that would have been 5 points down the pan.

I really rate Moly and think it’s mad that people are complaining about him (not that I’ve really seen it) but we have other players who could have stuck that penalty away.

Or they could have missed. Let's stick to facts, Nick, not conjecture.

It’s also conjecture to say that we’d have 2 points fewer from that game if he’d missed the penalty. Someone might have stuck away the rebound, or another taker might have scored, or we might have scored from open play, or Exeter might have broken away and scored again costing us 3 points, or…

It’s impossible to say, the only fact is that we won and he scored a penalty, not that we won because he scored a penalty. Even though it was a huge contribution!

WTF?

[Pancho Regan]

It's a good job he provided the 2 assists at Mansfield, and stuck the penalty away against Exeter, or that would have been 5 points down the pan.

I really rate Moly and think it’s mad that people are complaining about him (not that I’ve really seen it) but we have other players who could have stuck that penalty away.

Or they could have missed. Let's stick to facts, Nick, not conjecture.

It’s also conjecture to say that we’d have 2 points fewer from that game if he’d missed the penalty. Someone might have stuck away the rebound, or another taker might have scored, or we might have scored from open play, or Exeter might have broken away and scored again costing us 3 points, or…

It’s impossible to say, the only fact is that we won and he scored a penalty, not that we won because he scored a penalty. Even though it was a huge contribution!

Are you OK Nick?

[NickDRFC]

I might not be articulating the point very well or I might just be on my own in thinking that Moly didn’t win us the 3 points against Exeter…either way fair enough!

[RoversInSpain]

Bizarre thread. This time last year exactly the same tripe with one joker wanting rid of Molyneux, next it’ll be a poll as to how long we give McCann.
5 games 10 points and in R2 of the league cup.

[In the box]

Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Molyneux is a market man on the pitch now and has to find away of lifting his game or he will just get isolated . He isn’t the fasted of players be he is direct and effective so he needs back up to work with when ever he’s got the ball so leaving him trying to beat 2-3 players every time ..

[coventryrover]

Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.

I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol

me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

[GazLaz]

Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.

I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol

me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.

[Usher wide.]

Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.

I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol

me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.

I understand the term ‘doubling up’ with regards to opponents ensuring at least two players track Mols’ runs & try to prevent him cutting inside or delivering a ball into the box (strength in numbers), but the phrase ‘moments man’ you used to describe Middleton’s contribution to the team is a new one to me.

You also called him “a one trick pony”, which I feel is unfair. His ‘job’ currently as a wide player, is to get balls into the penalty area consistently which he’s doing with aplomb. Grant would no doubt like to see him add goals to his repertoire (as he did & has done with Mols) & I have no doubt that will come.

I get you prefer Gibbo on that side, that’s your prerogative. But don’t show that preference by slating a ‘new player’ five league games into the season with unjustified sleights.

[dickos1]

Some crazy posts on here, he was our best player at Huddersfield, got two assists at Mansfield, and scored the winner v Exeter.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Jeez, nearly every game he’s got at least 2 of the opposition on his back.

Last thing he needs is some of our fans on his back as well.

He’s a marked man, sometimes he won’t be able to produce.

This.

How many other players at this level do the opposition managers specifically tell their defenders to double up on? That demand on the opposition's capability is a major plus for us and inevitably leaves holes elsewhere.

[IDM]

Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.

I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol

me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.

Rubbish.  Granted I have only been to the Wycombe game, but virtually (no one can be certain it’s 100%) every time Mols had the ball going forward he was faced with two opponents, and more often than not a third preventing him going back.

I was sat towards the north end of the east stand, so close to the right wing going forward in that first half where we had most of the play.

Are you saying that hasn’t happened in the other matches and folks on here are seeing it wrong?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.

I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol

me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.

Not sure what I was watching on Saturday then, because PV definitely went out with a plan to double up on Molyneux. Right from the off, the number 5 was coming out to the right wing to support the left back every time we moved down our right.

[GazLaz]

Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.

I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol

me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.

I understand the term ‘doubling up’ with regards to opponents ensuring at least two players track Mols’ runs & try to prevent him cutting inside or delivering a ball into the box (strength in numbers), but the phrase ‘moments man’ you used to describe Middleton’s contribution to the team is a new one to me.

You also called him “a one trick pony”, which I feel is unfair. His ‘job’ currently as a wide player, is to get balls into the penalty area consistently which he’s doing with aplomb. Grant would no doubt like to see him add goals to his repertoire (as he did & has done with Mols) & I have no doubt that will come.

I get you prefer Gibbo on that side, that’s your prerogative. But don’t show that preference by slating a ‘new player’ five league games into the season with unjustified sleights.

I don’t think I’ve slated Middleton. He’s made a contribution. He’s not a bad player.

[Pancho Regan]

Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.

I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol

me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.

Not sure what I was watching on Saturday then, because PV definitely went out with a plan to double up on Molyneux. Right from the off, the number 5 was coming out to the right wing to support the left back every time we moved down our right.

I was going to make exactly the same observation BST.
On several occasions Mols had 2 PV players for company as soon as he got possession, and 3 players at least once.
He is known as our most dangerous player by opposing managers and fans alike. Indeed the PV fan I chatted to in their social club before the match said exactly that.

I don’t understand how anybody can refer to ‘doubling up’ as a myth, but then I’m not surprised given the poster concerned.

[GazLaz]

Someone on Twitter questioning his work rate lol

Well, I hope they get called out.

I was in earshot of 2 blokes saying mols was shite for most of last season lol

me too..they were right behind me.

Luke is playing just fine.  What people are failing to note is that teams are now doubling up on him.   

This “doubling up” thing is a bit of a myth. Especially this season.

Not sure what I was watching on Saturday then, because PV definitely went out with a plan to double up on Molyneux. Right from the off, the number 5 was coming out to the right wing to support the left back every time we moved down our right.

That’s how they defend the channels against everyone. They were doing the same at the other side. Seen PV live 4 times in the last year and about the same again on TV. They are notably good at defending wide areas with the RCH, RWB and RCM all working hard to block that area of the pitch. And the same on their left obviously.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Really didn't seem that way to me Gaz. My recollection is that Middleton was frequently 1-on-1 with the right back.

[RoversInSpain]

Baring ‘Boro, seen every match and Molyneux has faced 2 and 3 opposing players on many many occasions.
As stated previously, put Sterry back in and see the difference, when those 2 are at it the opposition will need 4 players to stop them.
Middleton has been excellent, how many moans and groans have we heard in the past along the lines of ‘there’s no end product’ John Taylor anyone?. Middleton has an end product, some of his crosses have been the best we’ve seen from a winger in yonks.The fact no one is on the end of them isn’t really his remit.

[steve@dcfd]

Middleton is supplying good crosses from the left hand side if  a forward or midfield player to take those chances we would have more goals and he would have more assists.
Molyneux will be marked more especially with teams like PV that know his skills. Also as a team we find it difficult playing against teams who have 3/5 players at the back.

[Usher wide.]

You’ve heard it from ‘The Oracle’.

Middleton’s “..made a contribution.” As do the ball boys.

Molyneaux doesn’t get ‘doubled up’ on. The pitches must just happen to slope towards him & gravity does the rest.

[BillyStubbsTears]

In theory, Middleton should be easier to defend against, because he always goes for the goal line. In practice of course, if a winger times their burst well, that's a bugger to cut off. I thought the Vale right back did a pretty good job on Middleton,aside from the goal where we broke sharply and he played the cross early.

Molyneux showed a new side of himself at Middlesbrough. He's clearly been working on his right foot, and when the full back tries cutting off the cut inside and offered him the outside route, he took it and played some lovely balls in.

If he really has that capability to go either way, teams are going to have to double up on him as a matter of course.

[Usher wide.]

And to think some on this forum said ‘he’s at his level’ when we were in Lg2! Beggars belief the ‘shortsighted little devils’ still post on here.

Molyneaux is a Championship level footballer & has been since the Schofield years.

Just took a manager who knows a footballer when he sees one to recognise & develop him.

[GazLaz]

And to think some on this forum said ‘he’s at his level’ when we were in Lg2! Beggars belief the ‘shortsighted little devils’ still post on here.

Molyneaux is a Championship level footballer & has been since the Schofield years.

Just took a manager who knows a footballer when he sees one to recognise & develop him.

Let’s see how many games at Championship level he ends up playing. He’s played one I believe and he’s 27 years old. Played 200+ at L2 and below.