Players out on loan

[ncRover]

  Westbrook has just come on for Scunthorpe with them beating York 1-0 on 71 minutes.

Finished 3-1 Scunthorpe

[Usher wide.]

Watched Kasper Williams turn out for Bridlington Town vs Bradford Park Avenue (top of the league) last Saturday.

Had a chat with Steve, Kaspers dad, before the game. Kasper is well thought of at the club & has been a regular starter since he came to Brid (let’s bear in my this lad is still only 17) & I told his dad I would like to sponsor his shirt for the season (the Brid website is so ‘poor’ you’re unable to do this online!) only to be told he’d just that minute got sponsors for Kasper’s home & away shirt (£50 for the season with your name printed in the programme. No framed shirt at the end of the season mind you, it is £700 cheaper than sponsoring Ethan Ennis!) so well done Kasper’s dad.

The 0-0 result was more down to poor finishing than ‘excellent defending’, but another 90 minutes of ‘brute force’ & little protection given by the officials for Kasper to ‘endure’ & learn how to deal with the physicality of players twice his weight & despite the result, no doubt feel their ‘job done’ as a centre forward to have ‘dragged’ (literally!) a young centre back from pillar to post.

Kasper won more aerial battles than he lost, but his distribution was more ‘boot it into the beyond’ than head up & look for the pass. Down to the manager/tactics asked for?

I’ll keep you posted.

[selby]

 Draytonian having being close to him on the touchline at Buxton last year, a full on nut of a manager during the game, and very entertaining in way.

[selby]

  Yesterday at Gateshead Will Flint and Kyle Hurst played full games in a 3-1 loss v Boston united after two wins in away games they once again fell to the bogey that seems to be against them in home games.
  Will was played in a back four as a central defender finding it difficult to get game time in his best position as a defensive mid fielder with the manager proffering the experience of Jacob Butterfield the ex Barnsley player.
  Like in the u18s here Will suffers from being a jack of all trades when his nich is playing just in front of a defensive back line where  Darlington had the sense and team set up to get the best out of him but yesterday he really did well in a patched up defence riddled with injury and another couple having to leave the field yesterday injured so up against it and won the sponsors MOM so well done Will in front of Mr Coppinger.
  Kyle had a good game and is a fans favourite up there running past defenders, he also had a one on one with the keeper that just didn't run for him but is getting back his confidence on the ball and was Gateshead's biggest threat going forward.
  At Peterborough Sports Sam Brown came on at 73 minutes  to shore up mid field and bring energy into the side who held out to win 2-1 v Kidderminster and give Phil Brown his first victory since taking over as manager and against his old side.
  So a well done to all of them lets hope Bobby does the same for Harrogate against Crewe, a hard game, which I think is televised tomorrow night for anyone interested on Sky Sports Football.

[Draytonian III]

I hope wasn’t scouting one of the Boston goal scorers

[selby]

  Draytonian, in fairness the club are much more proactive when possible this season to watch in person the players we have out on loan, and most are doing well and at decent levels. I know for certain as I have seen them in attendance Grant, Cliff, and Copps have all watched Bobby in person in games he played in because I saw them there, and have no doubt have covered the other players out when possible.
  To my knowledge as a club we have not had the number of players out at the levels we have them out at now and can only be an improvement on what we have had since the u23s were abandoned.

[Draytonian III]

I made the comment about a Boston goal scorer as the last one was Jordi Hiwula, it was an attempt at humour.

[Metalmicky]

Chance to watch young Bobby Faulkner tonight as he should line up against Crewe.  We very rarely hear about him nowadays....

[selby]

  MM other clubs have though.

[Metalmicky]

  MM other clubs have though.

Didn't have to fish for long there....

[Alan Southstand]

No worm on the hook, either! 

[Thorney]

Watching the match and must say i wouldnt want to watch harrogate week in week out.

Definitly a good loan move for a defender because your gonna be doing plenty of it.

Young bobby doing ok tonight, probably looking at the replays should of had a penalty given against him late in the half, and has the comms team said, probably would have if var was in play.

But generally been keeping the crewe forward quiet.

[Metalmicky]

Done OK, but looks knackered..

[Thorney]

Harrogate have got away with a few dodgy tackles tonight.

Impressed by the left sided player reece smith

[Alan Southstand]

2,500+ at Harrogate watching!

[Monkcaster_Rover]

Thought Bobby acquitted himself well. On the back foot for most of the game. O’Connor played well and was unlucky with the deflection.

[selby]

  I went to the game last night at Harrogate who were well beaten by  a Crewe side who were on their game from the first few minutes while Harrogate looked far from the all action all over the opposition team they had been in the two games previously, especially in mid field who never got into the game.
  Basically the game turned into a limitation exorcise by Harrogate's back four and keeper, in which Bobby and O'Conner led the defensive line, and did quite well. just the sort of game Bobby needs experience in, it's a great loan for him getting game time and doing well consistently being marked up as a good seven by those threads that do that thing, the two I saw last night scored him at 7.3 and 7.8 the top score on Harrogate's team, O'Conner also 7.3 and 7.4 closely following, the first experienced partner Bobby has played with in professional football to learn off. Add the fact in every game Harrogate will play a lot in their own half and he will be involved, its a great loan where he is enjoying it, and says with a great set of lads and a very supportive manager and staff.
  Just one for the TV watchers Bobby says never a pen he didn't touch him, and the referee had warned their player before about assimilation the ref had a good view,  says slowing it down exaggerated it.
  I am not siding with anyone I haven't seen it. but there was no reaction in the crowd at all, didn't know anything about it till after the game.
 

[selby]

  A very good day for the three main players we have out on loan, Will Flint after impressing in mid week at Grimsby along with goal scorer Kyle Hurst was part of the Gateshead side that breezed home to get Gateshead through to the first round proper of the FA cup, so could possibly become two thorns in our side if allowed to play, if the two sides were drawn out together from the hat tomorrow.
 As stated Kyle scored Gateshead's second goal in a dominant display against a side from a lower division, a game they were expected to win, but as we know to our cost in the past easier said than done.
  Kyle is now showing the form and the confidence we know he can provide to a team, and is becoming one of Gateshead's important attackers, and also improving his off the ball contribution to the team, and with his attacking ability to go past players is becoming a fans favourite up there.
  Will Flint, like the game at Grimsby goes about his game much more low key, but has that football brain and positional intelligence that goes somewhat un noticed but is so effective and difficult as an attacker to play against. A fitness fanatic and a good size he adds some physical benefits to the team, and is composed and not rushed when on the ball, but not adverse to putting his boot through the ball if required. A good defender we may need later in the season.
  Bobby Faulkner played in a three two defeat at Fleetwood where Harrogate presented the points on a plate with comical defending that he had no part in at all.
  Another eye catching defensive performance from the lad the commentators were drooling about until others caused the result to  go tits up, and very little he could do about.
  His performances are highlighting the  consistency in the level of performances he has shown since earning the shirt at Harrogate and is a firm favourite with their supporters and consistently scores highly when marks are given out in reports on their games,
  He has power, pace, and physicality, and is composed when in possession, and knows when to get rid of the ball if required, everything we lacked at Leyton Orient.
  So three lads who are making the best of the situation they are in and doing their best to be noticed by clubs and hopefully at the Rovers where if things continue urgent surgery will be required. 

[selby]

  playing for Peterborough Sports Sam Brown came on as a second half substitute against Alfreton and played his part in their spirited end to the game coming up with an equaliser in the last few minutes in which he played a part.
  So doing well under the new manager and being in a team fighting to keep their status in the league he can learn a lot about what it means to be under pressure from the older players he plays with who have a lot riding on what level they play at.
  Will Flint also did very well getting praise when he left the field and in the managers summary  at the end of the Game which ended 0-0 another good away result for Gateshead placed in the middle of the National league with one of the smallest budgets and look to be fast improving, although booked and taken off by the manager whomthought it too risky to go down to 10 men.
 Will like Bobby at Harrogate had to bide his time at first, train well, and when he got the shirt perform and keep it.
  With his performance at Grimsby with us and his last few games at Gateshead he has proved his ability with consistent performances and as a central defender, not his best position, so well done Will keep it up.
  At Harrogate by his own admission Bobby had his hardest game at Colchester up to press where the defence were under constant pressure despite taking the lead after just a few minutes.
  Micah Mbick just 18yrs old gave him his hardest game up to press and earned the admiration of Bobby who thinks he will go far in the game he and  the lad on loan from Charlton had a great battle. Stats provided by analysts  say that Bobby over the last six games is in  the top five defenders in division 2 and is a regular and consistent defender over that period and has played all the games at Harrogate on the left side a position he says has helped him improve positionally and technically, and although really tested enjoyed the battle yesterday once again playing well according to his manager. Another well done Bobby in not a great team, but one that gives everything every week to compete.
  So a young player in Mbick who we need to follow if things can happen in January and Charlton want to test him a division higher, with a player who can testify to his ability who has actually played against him.

[Monkcaster_Rover]

SSB got a last minute winner for Peterborough Sports against Southport Tuesday night! Cleared one off the line earlier in the game as well. Good lad.

[selby]

  Phil Brown praised  Sam Brown at the end of their win v Southport on Tuesday evening as he came on as a sub in the second half and scored an added time winner and showing great determination to change the game after going behind and get much needed points in a relegation battle.
  Will Flint and Bobby Faulkner had hard games last weekend Will once again playing left sided defender not his best position which again is defensive mid field and was sacrificed just after half time  though playing reasonably well in a 2-2 draw.
  Bobby had his hands full playing against bottom club Newport, and in his words came up against the best lad he has had to mark. Arguably Harrogate's best defender with great stats, but put through his own goal trying to block from close range and gave away a harsh free kick which they also  scored from, an unlucky day not given a lot of cover in a poor midfield.
  One player who really stood out was Newport's No 44 Braybrooke on loan from Leicester City well worth the statisticians checking on who ran the game.

[Belle_Vue]

Just for the balance, Bobby was given the lowest rating in the report I have seen of 4.8. Also committed the most fouls.

I feel that had McGrath or any of our defenders scored an OG and conceded a freekick that led to another goal would bring this forum into meltdown. Especially against the bottom side with only 2 wins prior.


Bobby could one day be, but he isn't yet.

[5minstogo]

Not his finest game but he's doing well at Harrogate. They aren't a great side this season but he's got himself in the starting XI and is more than holding his own. I think we can just look at it objectively rather than trying to build him up or bash him down .

[selby]

  Just for balance I have four sent to me the lowest a six the highest 6.8, stats very good which reflect the game he had headers and tackle rates well up and passes so where tat came from? probably the bar, they never watched the game.
  Everybody has an opinion some look for the worst, he is comfortable there enjoying his football is playing very well  which his stats back up , and he may never play for the Rovers again which he knows, but will do well in the game elsewhere, and like others before him could well turn out to be our loss if not.
  All he can do is what he is doing playing well, and I hope we as a club are taking as much notice as other scouts, agents, and clubs are, which last season was not the case.

[GazLaz]

Just for the balance, Bobby was given the lowest rating in the report I have seen of 4.8. Also committed the most fouls.

I feel that had McGrath or any of our defenders scored an OG and conceded a freekick that led to another goal would bring this forum into meltdown. Especially against the bottom side with only 2 wins prior.


Bobby could one day be, but he isn't yet.

The thing the club have in their decision making favour is that they can compare Bobby to Jay, playing at the same level at the same age. Think the staff have had a belief for a while that Jay is better than Bobby. Any decent analyst will be able to prove either way by the end of the season.

[Belle_Vue]

Yes, everyone has an opinion.

But if it doesn't match it must have come from the boozer.

[selby]

  Belle View I have seen a lot of points awarded on different betting and football sites and news papers and very very few score that low even when a player has been abject, which winning 100%  tackles and over 90% headers and passes in a game doesn't convert to that.
  He was well up and  for the last six games near the top of all the defenders in the division stats wise composed for all players in each division, which are made available to the players to study.
  He is doing very well in a struggling side, he loves it is happy with his game and knows he must get better to be where he wants to be and has been very consistent.

[Monkcaster_Rover]

Bobby been given the green light to play against Mansfield in the FA Cup tomorrow.

[selby]

  Sensible another game for him in a team that starts the game completely as underdogs.
  He had a great game there earlier in the season in the EFL cup where they caused an upset not something i am expecting for them to repeat, but hope they do.
  But these are the types of games defenders want at a young age where they are up against it and will be stretched and hopefully come through a stiff test.
  And with no guarantee of us advancing through to the third round why not let the loan players play? and be in the shop window as well as play matches.
 

[glosterred]

Flint and Hurst on the bench for Gateshead this afternoon


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