A decade later and finally the truth comes out

[bobjimwilly]

I think most of us knew in our heart of hearts that the Sequentia capital deal was rotten, but finally the deal is fully exposed. Proud to have been on the VSC board at the time and feel a little bit vindicated now in the decisions we took at the time.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/louis-tomlinson-duped-criminal-gang-35934534

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/louis-tomlinson-fooled-criminal-gang-35934625

[Filo]

The amount of shit thrown at those of us that could see right through the deal was unreal, most of the perpetrators of that shit are no longer regular supporters!

[drfchound]

Paywalls on those two links for me.

[BobG]

Both work fine for me Hound - I ain't subscribed either. Wierd.

BobG

[drfchound]

Very odd mate.

[roversdude]

It just didn’t seem right at the time and the vitriol aimed at the VSC was unreal

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Important stuff. But also fully important to not get back in to this too much and stay united. The division this caused amongst fans is something I'd never like to see again.

Cudos to those who remained on the vsc board, it certainly put me off doing anything like that again for a long time.

The whole thing was a sad story for all rovers fans and it could have been much worse if that fight was not won.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Those articles only skim the surface. Ryan's relationship with Phelan goes way back as we know to the Richardson era when Phelan was already a disqualified director and had already been involved in dodgy deals to obtain property. 

It still makes my stomach churn thinking back to those days when fans were deliberately misled and deliberately divided by people who knew what was going on.   

[Filo]

It just didn’t seem right at the time and the vitriol aimed at the VSC was unreal

Remember a supporters group was set up and funded by outside influences to try and finish the VSC, those supporters should be humble enough to aplologise, I doubt they will

[goalkick]

Are any of them still around?

[RobTheRover]

They dont go to the footy any more.

[donnygav93]

Glad with obvious hindsight that we didn't go down that route god knows we're we would be now probably similar to Bury

From my memory at the time both vsc and Terry Bramall got lots of stick I'm hopeful when the time comes Terry and his Family will do due diligence and pass us to credible custodians

[ChrisBx]

The Mirror article states:

"Ryan transferred his 30% shareholding to Sequentia and resigned as Doncaster chairman."

I was always under the impression that he had transferred his shares to TB...?

[Fal]

Whilst yes the truth has come out please don’t jump at those who were calling you guys out back then. They weren’t privy to the facts and only had what was being shared in the public domain to go on.


Sadly as we see all the time with transfer rumours, we can’t always believe what we read on here either.

[Filo]

Whilst yes the truth has come out please don’t jump at those who were calling you guys out back then. They weren’t privy to the facts and only had what was being shared in the public domain to go on.


Sadly as we see all the time with transfer rumours, we can’t always believe what we read on here either.

Some of the abuse was disgraceful they need calling ouy

[Nudga]

Whilst yes the truth has come out please don’t jump at those who were calling you guys out back then. They weren’t privy to the facts and only had what was being shared in the public domain to go on.


Sadly as we see all the time with transfer rumours, we can’t always believe what we read on here either.

Respectfully disagree mate. People such as SM were telling us that this was bad for the club and the vsc were the fans reps on the board.
They were holding people to account but a lot of folk held JR as the Messiah and blindly followed him.

Thank God for the vsc and those who were very hands on at the time.

[Avsuptem]

JR was the Messiah, the fact that he and others were temporarily duped by some con men does not mean he is guilty of anything other than trying to get funding into the club.

[PDX_Rover]

He’s not the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy.

[Filo]

Whilst yes the truth has come out please don’t jump at those who were calling you guys out back then. They weren’t privy to the facts and only had what was being shared in the public domain to go on.


Sadly as we see all the time with transfer rumours, we can’t always believe what we read on here either.

Respectfully disagree mate. People such as SM were telling us that this was bad for the club and the vsc were the fans reps on the board.
They were holding people to account but a lot of folk held JR as the Messiah and blindly followed him.

Thank God for the vsc and those who were very hands on at the time.

And this is why the VSC should remain strong, and I urge more people to join

[River Don]

Whilst yes the truth has come out please don’t jump at those who were calling you guys out back then. They weren’t privy to the facts and only had what was being shared in the public domain to go on.


Sadly as we see all the time with transfer rumours, we can’t always believe what we read on here either.

Respectfully disagree mate. People such as SM were telling us that this was bad for the club and the vsc were the fans reps on the board.
They were holding people to account but a lot of folk held JR as the Messiah and blindly followed him.

Thank God for the vsc and those who were very hands on at the time.

And this is why the VSC should remain strong, and I urge more people to join

The VSC has been a proactive, protective force for the Rovers against predators twice now. It’s Value is proven.

[GazLaz]

He’s not the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy.

He was a desperate man. Desperate men make bad decisions.

[DearneValleyRover]

The VSC did the job it was set up to do and I’m proud of being a part of it then and now but SM and Rob were subject to far more abuse than I and deserve far more respect for the parts they played. I would urge people to think about joining if they haven’t already done so. I know things are good at present but it can turn ugly very quickly and we need the safeguard of the trust.

[DearneValleyRover]

He’s not the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy.

He was a desperate man. Desperate men make bad decisions.

One way of putting it

[BillyStubbsTears]

Important stuff. But also fully important to not get back in to this too much and stay united. The division this caused amongst fans is something I'd never like to see again.

Cudos to those who remained on the vsc board, it certainly put me off doing anything like that again for a long time.

The whole thing was a sad story for all rovers fans and it could have been much worse if that fight was not won.

The divisiveness issue could be dealt with very easily if a handful of people who were the strongest supporters of the Sequential "deal" and threw the most abuse at people who saw through it, simply did the grown up thing. Admitted how badly wrong they called it and apologised to those they abused.

[BobG]

I've been looking back a little.

Wesco 1986, casperjebba and wesisback seem to be worth highlighting. I was attempting to also discover the date of their first and last posts on here but I seem to be suffering from a system refusal to load random pages despite repeated attempts. However, I do not recall seeing posts from any of these three on here for years. It does make you wonder exactly who they were/are and their motivation at the time....

BobG
Later: savvy, who disappeared in 2019, was extremely prolix in his disapproval of our current Chairman. By implication at least he spent a lot of time and energy supporting what was then felt to be, and is now known to be, the indefensible.

[Filo]

It’s certainly interesting looking back at threads from 10-12 years ago

[graingrover]

Billy ..I agree but I know two of them who were hoodwinked by …and fell for it hook line a sinker .Misplaced loyalties .. No .. but hoodwinked and naive they were as was their Influencer .

[silent majority]

He’s not the messiah, he’s a very naughty boy.

He was a desperate man. Desperate men make bad decisions.

I think the word you’re searching for is ‘selfish’.

[TheFunk]

People who care about the club do their due diligence especially when they know them to be dodgy previously. JR only cared about his own inflated ego.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

In those recent podcasts when he came out in support of the club, TB & Gavin, encouraging people to buy season tickets, he said he made mistakes, but that doesn't go far enough to apologies to the people he trod on and those he misled.

Whether Phelans conviction changes that, I don't know. Has he covered any of it in his book? Maybe he's fearful of spilling the beans?