Time for Grant to go

[RugbyRover]

Time for Lee Glover to go more like

[TonySoprano]

Whilst I dont agree that he should go now.
He's got plenty of credit in the bank.

But there comes a point when we need to look at options.

[Bristol Red Rover]

GM has more than earned his right to remain a rovers manager imo. Certainly till season end at least.
Me and my lad were chatting about recent performances and both of us can’t help but think that something has happened behind the scenes that’s more than just players not performing to their ability.

From what I've seen, via a screen, there does seem to be something in the air not quite right. I don't think it's necessarily a big deal but comnbined with a downturn in form it feels like a little bit of a toxic fog hanging.

It could all be coincidental with a few off days on top of a natural comedown to that initial period of euphoria we had.

I can see the confidence drop - very small margins but costing goals at both ends. And also there seems to have been a period where the ball just isn't quite falling for us. Some of that has been making shooting opportunities more difficult but mostly where a loose ball will go to the opposition.

Point being, sometimes there's a period that just needs riding out, keeping on with the work behind the scenes, believing in what everyone is doing, and that goes for GM more than anyone. It's tough but also is exactly what's in a managers job description.

 

[Spilsby Red]

I said to my lad after Saturdays game. Something isn’t right in the camp. Maybe to many changes every game or is there something further. ???

[graingrover]

I tend to ty to sort the wheat from the chaff  and when we have a poor spell there is a chaff- ful of comments asking for revolutionary change .To put things into perspective how would we better our three top men  that have created much more than a squad but an entire club strategy  for a sustainable future ?

[roversdude]

I have never been a McCann fan but last year he was vindicated by a tight knit squad of committed players
Close season signings have been appalling and no doubt budget-consuming.
We had a brilliant start but once pressure has been applied we have collapsed.
Go now Grant, give your successor time to learn and appreciate the mid season changes we need.
You've been better than decent, but everyone has a sell-by date.

Your clearly glory hunter who only sings when we’re winning but s**ts his pants when loose !!

Thought it might have been one of your alter ego’s lol

[danumdon]

I said to my lad after Saturdays game. Something isn’t right in the camp. Maybe to many changes every game or is there something further. ???

It could be something as simple as that, players, like most of us like to know what's the plan and want stability and routine, if GM can decide on his first team and play to their strength weeks in and out then the consistency is bound to return and with it some semblance of order and stability.

Tell the players, this is the plan for the next 10 games (bar injury/bans, ect) and see an instant upturn in team morale and results, if it comes with the reserves busting a gut to prove him wrong all the better.

[Draytonian III]

Also this sound a bit radical but have you ever thought that the players in League One are better than the players in League Two

[Spilsby Red]

Firstly Graingerover. I am not a chaff. Just asking if there is more wrong. Why do people think it’s ok to have a go at people when just expressing an opinion. Be it right or wrong

[Bristol Red Rover]

Also this sound a bit radical but have you ever thought that the players in League One are better than the players in League Two

I think ours improved on getting promoted, but now all that is needing to be grounded within the club in all ways. It's a bit like the Piaget assimilation and accomodation theory of growth - first we have assimilated improved abilities and performances into our old set up but it has got to the point of needing to grow to allow for further improvemnts. Now comes improving the set up to comfortably fully accomodate all the new League 1 abilities and performances and skills.

[Lesonthewest]

Also this sound a bit radical but have you ever thought that the players in League One are better than the players in League Two

This. We have had a great start, but now it's showing we are struggling with the step up & have been found out by managers & better players. We have players out of form, injuries to important players, & players not quite making the step up.

I fully trust Grant to sort it out & steady the ship to January &  hopefully sort the glaringly obvious striker situation ( Sharp aside). In my opinion we also have to stop the obsession of giving the ball out wide to both wingers, so so predictable & easy to defend against.

[In the box]

GM has more than earned his right to remain a rovers manager imo. Certainly till season end at least.
Me and my lad were chatting about recent performances and both of us can’t help but think that something has happened behind the scenes that’s more than just players not performing to their ability.

From what I've seen, via a screen, there does seem to be something in the air not quite right. I don't think it's necessarily a big deal but comnbined with a downturn in form it feels like a little bit of a toxic fog hanging.

It could all be coincidental with a few off days on top of a natural comedown to that initial period of euphoria we had.

I can see the confidence drop - very small margins but costing goals at both ends. And also there seems to have been a period where the ball just isn't quite falling for us. Some of that has been making shooting opportunities more difficult but mostly where a loose ball will go to the opposition.

Point being, sometimes there's a period that just needs riding out, keeping on with the work behind the scenes, believing in what everyone is doing, and that goes for GM more than anyone. It's tough but also is exactly what's in a managers job description.

 

When we don’t include in the starting line up Hanlan and Olusanya  in nearly all our games,  what are left with . One of the smallest players on the pitch 39 yrs has to carry the teams prospects upfront . McCann must be kicking himself for getting dragged into these two deals , as I can’t believe he saw their being alack of progress into the starting eleven either . Injuries are part of our per annual expectations but to go into the next dozen or so games knowing that if Billy is left unsupported and these two aren’t even capable , is this just sending a message to every other team that we can’t finish off team from the start. 

[moses]

My fag packet theory is that with us getting the players in early and being together for pre-season we were in front of everyone else for the first few games in terms of organisation and fitness. This maybe made us look better than we were early doors.

Also I think the excellent cup results made Grant think the 'reserves' were better than they are and encouraged the regular changes (two equal players for each position).

Lastly, it is not in Grant's nature to play 10 men behind the ball defensively and he wants players to commit forward and take risks, but as we play better opponents in Lg1 we get picked off.

[GazLaz]

My fag packet theory is that with us getting the players in early and being together for pre-season we were in front of everyone else for the first few games in terms of organisation and fitness. This maybe made us look better than we were early doors.

Also I think the excellent cup results made Grant think the 'reserves' were better than they are and encouraged the regular changes (two equal players for each position).

Lastly, it is not in Grant's nature to play 10 men behind the ball defensively and he wants players to commit forward and take risks, but as we play better opponents in Lg1 we get picked off.

I thought exactly the same regarding the first point. I went to the MK friendly and we were light years ahead of them in terms of fitness and "readiness" that day. That was probably a sign of us being ahead of others.

[TonySoprano]

Also this sound a bit radical but have you ever thought that the players in League One are better than the players in League Two

The problem is made worse, when the players we've signed have made US worse aswell.

[ForsolongaRover]

Also this sound a bit radical but have you ever thought that the players in League One are better than the players in League Two

This. We have had a great start, but now it's showing we are struggling with the step up & have been found out by managers & better players. We have players out of form, injuries to important players, & players not quite making the step up.

I fully trust Grant to sort it out & steady the ship to January &  hopefully sort the glaringly obvious striker situation ( Sharp aside). In my opinion we also have to stop the obsession of giving the ball out wide to both wingers, so so predictable & easy to defend against.

You trust him, but how does he do it? Can anyone can really see much prospect of the Hanlan, Olusanya or Ajaji - who is the only one of the three that gets shots away and nearly all of them go over the bar - becoming a goal-scorer which is what we need. You admit it is glaringly obvious which means that it is not easy to fix.

This may be a negative observation, but we did had a fall-back in the shape of the Moly-Sterry partnership; now Bailey and the hope that Billy with his the true striker's instinct, are all the straws at which we clutch.

I'm more emotionally detached than I have been in the past and I don't see what purpose there is in criticising those who are genuinely upset (and say so) with how things are going. The fact that a sizeable element of those who are invested emotionally in the team are critical is not going to further depress performances. If someone criticises you when you know you aren't performing as well as you can, surely you try to do better. People recognise when players are putting in 100% too and also when this is not the case. If people booed the team from the KO that would be a different thing, but that's not so.

I think Moses has made a good point too about the start we had which might also given us an edge in terms of fitness and enthusiasm.

Have we built on that or even maintained it?     

[Alan Southstand]

I think back to our game at Huddersfield, which we lost, but I can’t remember us playing like that last season. We were absolutely on it except, of course, in the one main thing - finishing. That was early in the season when we were flying and Huddersfield could and should have been put to bed by half time.

This, apart from maybe the Bradford game, has continued and it’s being compounded by a total lack of cohesion throughout the team. Maybe the chopping and changing has not helped and Grant may well have exacerbated the problem. However, last season he did this and we managed to pick up points but this is a very different scenario to last season. It’s not until we brought Street in and put him up top that we looked like a Championship winning side.

This what we’re missing - a ‘Street’ character and the 2 lads he’s brought in are, unfortunately for us, nowhere near the same standard (in a much tougher league). I can’t see how Grant is going to sort that out until January!

We’ve a tough few weeks coming up. The team has to (somehow) get back to that Huddersfield form.

[Chris Black come back]

Street could well have performed strongly for us in League One and been a huge asset - but it is worth noting he has as many league goals (1) as red cards (1) for Lincoln City this season, having started 10 of their 12 league games. His first league goal of the season actually only arrived last weekend.

[danumdon]

Street could well have performed strongly for us in League One and been a huge asset - but it is worth noting he has as many league goals (1) as red cards (1) for Lincoln City this season, having started 10 of their 12 league games. His first league goal of the season actually only arrived last weekend.

Like us they have been playing him out wide for most of his appearances, i saw some of their last game against Stevenage and he played up top down the middle, he looked sharp and on it, very much what he was doing for us when we moved him into the middle. His pace, movement and anticipation are street's ahead of what we possess and dreadfully lack.(pun intended)

[Alan Southstand]

But…..not playing as a central striker, like he was for us!