TLT

[albie]

TLT does have a habit of pushing the ball out in front of him, and not to the side.
Get it wide and the chance of conceding from a follow up is lower.

That said, I would be more concerned about Mcgrath and Maxwell not reacting.
Jay heads the ball up, but not out of the box...it drops into a danger area. We don't close Liam down in an ocean of space, then we fail to block or follow in to mop up the spillage.

Slow reactions all round!

[Bills view]

Watching it back slowly and I am no goalkeeping expert, I am not sure it was straightforward to push it wide. He was right middle of the goal (looking from behind the goal camera angle) and it was a well struck shot close to his body so pushing it left doesn’t seem that easy. He did do well to get down to it as he was slightly obscured by O’Riordan.

Their forward was well on the move and unless it was pushed away at pace I reckon he still would have had a tap in.

We all view things differently.

[ForsolongaRover]

I remember having a difference of opinion with Gaz over TSL’s stats on shot stopping, but we are on the same page in this. (In fact, I wonder if standard stats cover “parrying”, “catching” and “punching” in assessing performance, but TLT’s case highlights their importance.)

So, back to TLT, and probably we would all like him to succeed, but I don’t think anyone has denied  the fact that that he parries the ball all too often. An accurate punch or preferably a confident catch followed by him clutching the ball to his chest and dropping to the ground in a crowded box is conventional, but not his style. I’ve always credited TLT with speed and when he can seize and distribute the ball quickly, he was taking opposition defences by surprise with his long throws to attackers in the 2024 run-in. He still shows speed in his distribution and perhaps the forwards need to get themselves in good positions to take advantage.

However the bottom line is that a goalkeeper that does not trust himself to catch the ball or at least punch it decisively has a fundamental occupational weakness. Can he change?

[scawsby steve]

It concerns me a bit that some opposition managers are targeting a TLT weakness.

[Nudga]

The first time I've ever seen a keeper dive with his hands still tucked in his pocket warmers.

Brilliant strike BTW but bloody hell.

[Fal]

The first time I've ever seen a keeper dive with his hands still tucked in his pocket warmers.

Brilliant strike BTW but bloody hell.

There’s nothing he could do about either goal, I’ll keep saying it. The goalkeeping department is the least of concerns.

[Thorney]

Cannot knock TLT tonight. Stood no chance with either goal.

Some goals root the keeper to the spot or are clearly out of reach, no point in diving outstrectched for the cameras.

I think some fans will always look to blame the keeper.

Seen a comment saying that he should be coming out for the 2nd. Crazy

[ForsolongaRover]

If you watch the Stockport goals in slow motion you will see that when TLT dives he does not do so at full stretch; his arms are not at the limit of their reach.. It is surely absolutely essential to stretch out as far as is physically possible, so why does he not follow this seemingly obvious GK fundamental?

[DonnyRover]

Said it months ago and got stuck for it, CERTIFIED DONKEY, should never get a game again for this team, constantly lets his team mates down

[Chris Black come back]

Lots of great attacking play and some really terrible defensive play. Not a single person on here would have believed we would score three goals today. Very disappointing ending.

[Thorney]

Ive been his biggest fan, but f**k me, after the effort the outfield players have given, he does that.

Even grant will be furious. If he put it out for a corner then it was game over

[Herbert Anchovy]

Said it months ago and got stuck for it, CERTIFIED DONKEY, should never get a game again for this team, constantly lets his team mates down

The echo of the final whistle is still reverberating around the ground and someone has started already!

[Canadian Rover]

He's played Sunday league level. Horrendous

[Filo]

Shocking display, his kicking was also awful

[EasyforDennis]

[quote authodr=Thorney link=topic=295660.msg1434139#msg1434139 date=1765645599]
Ive been his biggest fan, but f**k me, after the effort the outfield players have given, he does that.

Even grant will be furious. If he put it out for a corner then it was game over
[/quote]

He pushed it out to the side. They followed it up. We didn’t. The question thats needs answering tho is why does the referee say 7 minutes of added time and with NO stoppages plays on for an extra 2 minutes to allow Cardiff to score.

[Filo]

[quote authodr=Thorney link=topic=295660.msg1434139#msg1434139 date=1765645599]
Ive been his biggest fan, but f**k me, after the effort the outfield players have given, he does that.

Even grant will be furious. If he put it out for a corner then it was game over

He pushed it out to the side. They followed it up. We didn’t. The question thats needs answering tho is why does the referee say 7 minutes of added time and with NO stoppages plays on for an extra 2 minutes to allow Cardiff to score.
[/quote]
Close went down to waste time

[glosterred]

[quote authodr=Thorney link=topic=295660.msg1434139#msg1434139 date=1765645599]
Ive been his biggest fan, but f**k me, after the effort the outfield players have given, he does that.

Even grant will be furious. If he put it out for a corner then it was game over

He pushed it out to the side. They followed it up. We didn’t. The question thats needs answering tho is why does the referee say 7 minutes of added time and with NO stoppages plays on for an extra 2 minutes to allow Cardiff to score.

Close went down to waste time
[/quote]

It's a minimum of 7 minutes not a maximum.  But  TLT cost us a goal at.Chessie and a point today with poor keeping. Time to bring Lawlor back


COYR

[EasyforDennis]

[quote authodr=Thorney link=topic=295660.msg1434139#msg1434139 date=1765645599]
Ive been his biggest fan, but f**k me, after the effort the outfield players have given, he does that.

Even grant will be furious. If he put it out for a corner then it was game over

He pushed it out to the side. They followed it up. We didn’t. The question thats needs answering tho is why does the referee say 7 minutes of added time and with NO stoppages plays on for an extra 2 minutes to allow Cardiff to score.

Close went down to waste time
[/quote]

Not for 2 minutes he didn’t.

[Branton Red]

The bloke is quite simply not good enough.

Not by a long way.

He shouldn't be seen in a Rovers shirt again.

Lawlor until January then a new keeper needs to be signed.

Otherwise relegation is an inevitability.

[DonnyRover]

Said it months ago and got stuck for it, CERTIFIED DONKEY, should never get a game again for this team, constantly lets his team mates down

The echo of the final whistle is still reverberating around the ground and someone has started already!

I don’t know what you expect after that, we’d be mid-table with a decent keeper

[EasyforDennis]

[quote authodr=Thorney link=topic=295660.msg1434139#msg1434139 date=1765645599]
Ive been his biggest fan, but f**k me, after the effort the outfield players have given, he does that.

Even grant will be furious. If he put it out for a corner then it was game over

He pushed it out to the side. They followed it up. We didn’t. The question thats needs answering tho is why does the referee say 7 minutes of added time and with NO stoppages plays on for an extra 2 minutes to allow Cardiff to score.

Close went down to waste time

It's a minimum of 7 minutes not a maximum.  But  TLT cost us a goal at.Chessie and a point today with poor keeping. Time to bring Lawlor back


COYR
[/quote]

OK so it was 7 minutes and 59 seconds are you suggesting Close was down for over a minute? I don’t think so!!

[selby]

  Grehan and O'Riordon gave worse goals away today Grehan was holding a players shorts for ten yards and still couldn't catch him'
  Our lack of pace cost us.

[drfchound]

[quote authodr=Thorney link=topic=295660.msg1434139#msg1434139 date=1765645599]
Ive been his biggest fan, but f**k me, after the effort the outfield players have given, he does that.

Even grant will be furious. If he put it out for a corner then it was game over

He pushed it out to the side. They followed it up. We didn’t. The question thats needs answering tho is why does the referee say 7 minutes of added time and with NO stoppages plays on for an extra 2 minutes to allow Cardiff to score.

Close went down to waste time
[/quote]

So much inconsistency with refs though.
Against Stockport the ref said a minimum of nine minutes added on time.
Stockport wasted so much time and I think the ball was in play for only four of those minutes and if I remember correctly he only added on a further 20 seconds or so.

[ForsolongaRover]

  Grehan and O'Riordon gave worse goals away today Grehan was holding a players shorts for ten yards and still couldn't catch him'
  Our lack of pace cost us.

…and not TLT then??

[Hickleton Rover]

That's got to be at least 11 goals he has cost us this season, doesn't command his six yard box, and worries me when ball is passed back to him

[Thorney]

[quote authodr=Thorney link=topic=295660.msg1434139#msg1434139 date=1765645599]
Ive been his biggest fan, but f**k me, after the effort the outfield players have given, he does that.

Even grant will be furious. If he put it out for a corner then it was game over

He pushed it out to the side. They followed it up. We didn’t. The question thats needs answering tho is why does the referee say 7 minutes of added time and with NO stoppages plays on for an extra 2 minutes to allow Cardiff to score.

Close went down to waste time

It's a minimum of 7 minutes not a maximum.  But  TLT cost us a goal at.Chessie and a point today with poor keeping. Time to bring Lawlor back


COYR

OK so it was 7 minutes and 59 seconds are you suggesting Close was down for over a minute? I don’t think so!!
[/quote]

Refs dont blow for full time during a shot on goal, close was down long enough.

If tlt had pushed it aroind the post then it was game over.

Of we try at all to put the blame to the officials then it is very poor from us

[RugbyRover]

Just seen the goals.

All a result of shocking defending by the whole of the back four.

Maybe Pickford would have done better for the 4th one.

[selby]

  Forsolong a Rover, to be honest with you I have not seen anything in Grehan that would prompt me to start him in a division one game at all. He needs to go out on loan for me if we can get someone to take him, and needs to find some pace from somewhere
  For me he is not strong or physical enough to play central at this level, and has not the pace or positional sense to play either full back or a right of a three.
  It doesn't help him to be playing in a defence that is struggling at this level individually and as a unit.
  Personally I can't understand the Pearson situation, if he is not good enough to get in a poor back line who and why did we sign him, we knew he was no sprinter before he came, or should have done it was even common knowledge on Huddersfield's forum linked on here.
  Also I would trust Sterry over Grehan on the right whatever the line up.
  That's my honest take on it, simple as, your entitled to disagree.

[Ldr]

  Forsolong a Rover, to be honest with you I have not seen anything in Grehan that would prompt me to start him in a division one game at all. He needs to go out on loan for me if we can get someone to take him, and needs to find some pace from somewhere
  For me he is not strong or physical enough to play central at this level, and has not the pace or positional sense to play either full back or a right of a three.
  It doesn't help him to be playing in a defence that is struggling at this level individually and as a unit.
  Personally I can't understand the Pearson situation, if he is not good enough to get in a poor back line who and why did we sign him, we knew he was no sprinter before he came, or should have done it was even common knowledge on Huddersfield's forum linked on here.
  Also I would trust Sterry over Grehan on the right whatever the line up.
  That's my honest take on it, simple as, your entitled to disagree.

Everyone would trust sterry over Graham at full back, we played a back 3 today however, Grehan played right side ofnthatb3 not full back

[Pliskin]

TLT looks a shadow of the goalkeeper we had in 2024. He was class when he came in during the playoff season.

Now suffering from a lack of confidence?

Or maybe he isn't that good, but last time he just had a ridiculous once-in-a-career purple patch like Adelakun did?