Retained list

[Thorney]

I can't disagree with that list, Middleton doesn't fit our way of playing so makes sense, Gibson has sparkled very occasionally. I personally would have also put McGrath and Broadbent on the available for transfer list - Grant doesn't seem to see them as first team players and I would guess they're on middle / upper wages in the squad.

I'd keep Hanlan and Clifton, both are good cover and will always give their all - both also pretty blunt tools, so we need quality in front of them.

I’ve been told McGrath has asked to leave and i’m pretty certain they’re right as I know where it’s from and who I trust.

Problem you have is once you put them on a list as available for transfer, you’re not really getting anything for them. In most cases you’re getting £0 just their wages off the books as will be the case with Middleton.

I agree with you, especially on Broadbent. Got to go.

If he doesnt play at the weekend then i will say this will probably be 100% correct.

Though i would think Jay would be the last to want to leave. He may have not been as good as we hoped this season but you can see he has the passion for this club

[Rupee92ONLY]

He will play surely? We don’t have many options and perhaps the club would ideally like to keep him so as far as they’re concerned it’s business as usual?

[Thorney]

He will play surely? We don’t have many options and perhaps the club would ideally like to keep him so as far as they’re concerned it’s business as usual?

But if he has said to grant he wants to move on, then i cant see how
 grant will play someone who doesnt want to be here.
Options of dropping grehan, pearsom or williams there. And bailey can also cover if needs be.

And if it came to light that he wanted to mpve on, will the fans be so kind to him next season when he is having a howler.

I like jay and hope he hasnt or wants to go but, if your heart and head isnt here then go.

[Usher wide.]

I can't disagree with that list, Middleton doesn't fit our way of playing so makes sense, Gibson has sparkled very occasionally. I personally would have also put McGrath and Broadbent on the available for transfer list - Grant doesn't seem to see them as first team players and I would guess they're on middle / upper wages in the squad.

I'd keep Hanlan and Clifton, both are good cover and will always give their all - both also pretty blunt tools, so we need quality in front of them.

I’ve been told McGrath has asked to leave and i’m pretty certain they’re right as I know where it’s from and who I trust.

Problem you have is once you put them on a list as available for transfer, you’re not really getting anything for them. In most cases you’re getting £0 just their wages off the books as will be the case with Middleton.

I agree with you, especially on Broadbent. Got to go.

You have to build a squad over time. If you get rid of too many, unless we land all our first choice targets we could end up with someone at Broadbent level or below.

I think he’s a fine squad player.

If we strengthen the team enough then he will be adequate back up for now and may go out in January.

It can’t all be done in one window.

I think these decisions give us a great opportunity to build something. It’s a massive step forward getting those released out the squad.

I’d alter the sentence “I think he’s a fine squad player” to ‘I think he’ll be fine as a squad player’.

The same goes for Clifton & Hanlan.

Those two words ‘Hanlan’ & ‘excellent’ in the same sentence are like having ‘Trump’ & ‘intelligent’ in the same. Someone said ‘he’d be better out wide in his natural position’…….really? And no, he’s not sh***ed my wife.

We need far, far better & I expect him & Clifton to be gone in 12 months from now.

I think Broadbent is a lucky boy. But he’ll be ok as a squad player & giving ‘first team’ players some respite in the dafter cup games.

Wouldn’t be surprised if TLT ended up back here as a permanent signing.

[Colemans Left Hook]

Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF 

Wouldn't surprise me if this is a mutual decision with Middleton. Perhaps he wants a move back to Scotland.

as we all know our manager has the same agent as Middleton 
 
Bobby Gilfillan was the one who never needed his shirt  washing

and finally just before the first match some of you kept on about how many goals we were going to score from  Middleton's quality crosses.  If we are going to mention a Stockport centre forward released on a free by Notts County getting "his end away" on crosses - I might as well say how many Brendan O'Callaghan would have scored

[ncRover]

Who does Jordan Gibson think he is with that Instagram story?

I think you’re meant to say thanks for my time at the club, great memories etc

Don’t do instagram can you elaborate?

Just a clip of Akinfenwa saying “I’m technically unemployed so if any managers want to hit me up on WhatsApp”

Maybe I’m overreacting just feels disrespectful to me for him to put that and nothing else.

Can’t see a problem with that, he’s only stating facts

Fair enough, I’ll move on!

[Reg of the Rovers]

I see they haven’t released the Cookie Monster.!!

Shocking decision to keep CM he would be the first on my list to be released


COYR

Not a team player at all

He's made a huge number of appearances this season, and got some big blocks in. H'es not been popular with the fans, but his stats speak for themselves.

[mpc123]

Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF 

Hanlan has done foar more than Middleton. Sonetimes people can get obsessed with wingers, as thwy are all exciting and shiney, where really Middletons and Gibsons outputs are pretty low.

Hanlan, how can you justify him at all, it is like we play with ten men when he is on the pitch, vaguely running towards the ball but never getting there, missing headers, badly controlling the ball, incapable of passing further than 5 yards. I just hope we get enough decent strikers in so he will be irrelevant next season

Hanlan 7 goals 1 assist
Middleton 1 goal 2 assists

Probably why.

[Alan Southstand]

Middleton 1 goal in 46 games this season. He's been a terrible signing. A good cameo at Rotherham and maybe 10 or so decent crosses all season is not enough. Right decision.

Hanlan 7 goals obviously not enough but he contributed much more and should be a fine back up next season.

He was very good at Huddersfield!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Who does Jordan Gibson think he is with that Instagram story?

I think you’re meant to say thanks for my time at the club, great memories etc

Do we expect every person to forget the worry of how they are putting bread on the table and instead tell the world how they have loved working for the company that's just told them they aren't worth a job?

[Donnybax]

If we want to progress we've got to let Broadbent go he's absolutely terrible and less mobile than McCombe. I'd also be letting Nixon leave he offers no competition at right back with him:
A) never being fit
B) not good enough

[turnbull for england]

Who does Jordan Gibson think he is with that Instagram story?

I think you’re meant to say thanks for my time at the club, great memories etc

Don’t do instagram can you elaborate?

Just a clip of Akinfenwa saying “I’m technically unemployed so if any managers want to hit me up on WhatsApp”

Maybe I’m overreacting just feels disrespectful to me for him to put that and nothing else.

Can’t see a problem with that, he’s only stating facts

 He's been slated on here times many , has been officially released by the club and gets stick for a message on his own page that doesn't bad mouth the club at all  saying I'm available, what's he supposed to do differently

[ncRover]

I’ve literally said “fair enough I’ll move on”

[jmt23]

Always sorry to see players leave that have helped the club, but I do think it’s the right decisions. I think we could have gone further, but we obviously need some squad members, we just do not have the budget to be so ruthless.

So thanks for service in helping us retain league 1 status, and gain promotion - all the best for the future.

[Nudga]

The transfer leaks and gossip will die down a bit now Maxwell is leaving.

[In the box]

As a result we need the following:

2 senior keepers
1 or maybe 2 left backs
1 left winger
2 strikers
1 central midfielder
Potentially 1 centre back depending on whether Grehan and Faulkner are going to be in the squad

Lots more we could look at but the retained list makes the above the baseline.

McCann has been here before  Very much the same as last season , rebuilding from a standing start and it’s why we only just got over line this time around . Is our budget so tight that we are going to be dependent on loans ?

[drfchound]

I agree with all decisions barring Clifton. I just don’t get the love in on here for him. Ye sure, he runs around a lot, but Christ, his ability on the ball for a league 1 player is f**king appalling. Verging on non existent. Running around a lot for a professional footballer should be a given. So we’ve set a pretty low bar with his extension. Especially if we aim to push on next season. Sincerely hope he’s just there to make up the numbers.

I disagree, there's a difference between running around alot like a chicken, and working hard,winning the ball,pressuring the opposition and getting in dangerous positions, if Clifton could finish,he be a championship player.

That is exactly how I see Clifton too.

[roversdude]

Who’s mentioned budget you’re obsessed with
Unless McGrath has been tapped up can’t see him leaving he’s a bit of a home bird

[coventryrover]

Its exciting though

[RoversInSpain]

I agree with all decisions barring Clifton. I just don’t get the love in on here for him. Ye sure, he runs around a lot, but Christ, his ability on the ball for a league 1 player is f**king appalling. Verging on non existent. Running around a lot for a professional footballer should be a given. So we’ve set a pretty low bar with his extension. Especially if we aim to push on next season. Sincerely hope he’s just there to make up the numbers.

I disagree, there's a difference between running around alot like a chicken, and working hard,winning the ball,pressuring the opposition and getting in dangerous positions, if Clifton could finish,he be a championship player.

That is exactly how I see Clifton too.

Thirded, I believe he’s a very clever player, the positions he finds himself in are often brilliant. It’s just that last ‘bit’ which leaves you with your head in your hands.
Glad he’s staying, if he can find that end ‘bit’ we’ve got a player on our hands. Gets stuck in as well!

[Bessie Red]

Hanlan not transfer listed but Middleton is ?!?! WTF 

Hanlan has done foar more than Middleton. Sonetimes people can get obsessed with wingers, as thwy are all exciting and shiney, where really Middletons and Gibsons outputs are pretty low.

Completely disagree, hanlan has only played more because we had no one else.
He is conference standard at best.

He has played nearly 300 league games yet Mr Soprano knows best!

[donnyguy]

James Maxwell on X

Amazing 4 years! The right time for a change, wish nothing but the best for everyone involved at the football club! ❤️

[In the box]

James Maxwell on X

Amazing 4 years! The right time for a change, wish nothing but the best for everyone involved at the football club! ❤️

Gone from hero to zero .

[In the box]

Let’s face it the squad was never L1 prepared . If McCann isn’t to repeat the same , will he  have the full backing to bring in the type of players that can compete at hire level as other teams are investing and we have little over all squad quality left if Bailey and Mols move on . Other confusing thing is why announce before the last game who’s leaving etc .

[Thorney]

James Maxwell on X

Amazing 4 years! The right time for a change, wish nothing but the best for everyone involved at the football club! ❤️

Sad to see james go.
Thought he would go on to better things but injuries havnt helped.

Wouldnt of minded seeing him get another contract. Could of loaned him out till Jan to try and find some form.

[selby]

Faulkner and Flint are a big improvement in quality with Pearson to our central defence, and are more adaptable covering other positions  along the back four. a big improvement in pace and when not in possession  defending space in the area.
  Two good players who effect games positively and encourage players around them.
  It's been a long time coming players in central defence coming through our youth system probably since the youth cup final side when one went to West Brom.
  If they start the season like both of them are finishing this season they will do very well.
  And if McGrath does move and is not up for a fight here, a player like Byrne would suit me and we would have a good group.

[Barmby Rover]

Let’s face it the squad was never L1 prepared . If McCann isn’t to repeat the same , will he  have the full backing to bring in the type of players that can compete at hire level as other teams are investing and we have little over all squad quality left if Bailey and Mols move on . Other confusing thing is why announce before the last game who’s leaving etc .

I think GM's interview give us a clue why, he is wanting to have a break with his family, something he didn't get last season, so things have to be organised before he goes straight after the last game, and before he brings in the targets and has the pre season training camp.

[selby]

  We may have already identified our targets, to be fair its been a long time we have realised there has got to be changes if we are to be competitive at the top end of the division and our group despite being large didn't have the quality.

[roversdude]

If we have already identified players is the data to have the final say, it seems strange heralding the new system and then proceeding with old ways. Sure the data is already out there just needs someone to make sense of it

[DMnumber4]

Of the (permanent) players released, how many are likely to remain in L1 next season?

Zain Westbrooke - highly unlikely
Ben Close - probably not
Joseph Sbarra - no chance
Jordan Gibson - doubtful
Kyle Hurst - highly unlikely
Billy Sharp - doubtful
James Maxwell - unsure