Movement to introduce the 'Singing Section'

[Mr Croft]

Ben I admire you for coming here to try and make a difference and I will back you all the way to try and make this happen, but its become far too easy on this forum to try and make something and end up arguing instead.

Filo calling you negative is not calling any less of a fan, Ben just felt that you werent showing enough interest and trying to dismiss the subject at every possiblity, this may not be what you intended to imply, but all words can be read differently, as of my reply to which you called me a 'thick t**t' which I understand.

Its these kind of differences that have set us fans further apart in recent years, including the atmosphere at the keepmoat, its time for everyone to reach out and meet each other half way, make comments and try and solve this issue, whether we do sit down with the club and sort things out or the issue is closed as it we agree it cannot happen, as I for one are for making the keepmoat a better stadium for Doncaster Rovers and its following!

[WSBBA_Joe]

It wont happen in the south stand, its too far away, it would be better in the west stand next to the away fans, the WSBBA sung for alot of the forest game and the banter with the away fans helped, the south stand did sing abit but it was very quiet and for an away fan easy to out sing.

And Filo you need to calm down and stop having ago, noone being out of order to you, yes you are admin but doesnt mean you can give out abuse!!!


West Stand the new Pop stand!!!

[CusworthRovers]

I agree with this tbh.

The South Stand is full of families, oldies, kids, the thinkers, as well as singers/standers. All these are equally important to DRFC.

The problem is these are deep rooted in the SS from the initial movement of grounds and shouldn't have to move.

I feel personally we should have a singing/standing section in the NE Corner rather than the NW one. In the first half season here, I was in the East North B section and there was potential for a great atmosphere, but it was lacking lads, misters.

I feel atmospheres are generated in 3 ways:

1 Events on the pitch
2 Events off the pitch by a vociferous away crowd
3 Events off the pitch by a vociferous in the mood home section

The NE Corner will tick all three boxes. Looking at the away grounds they have far better atmospheres when the away lads are next to us. The away fans are nearest the East side, unless we are at capacity and thus they will get near the NW corner.

If we want to be near the away fans to create an atmosphere, then it has to be the NE Corner.

I'm not saying I will actually go there(though I might), but it seems logical that all the others should, and it will improve the whole stadium outlook from the home supporters. For example, the oldies, families, thinkers won't moan at the singers/standers and vice versa. Anybody who sits in the NE Corner will then have no gripes as they should know what they are going into.

Jobs a good un

[Mr Croft]

Filo wrote:

WSBBA_Ben wrote:

I wrote to the Fanzine and the words were published in it in 2008

The Poll wasn`t run untill 2009  



I`m sure Mr Croft wasn`t offended by being called a t**t!

We`re made of strong stuff in Stainy you know!

Well you won't be the first or the last to call me a t**t, or other names that are aimed at me

[Filo]

Mr Croft wrote:

as of my reply to which you called me a 'thick t**t' which I understand.

The term was funny t**t!

nowhere did I suggest that you were thick  

[Mr Croft]

Filo wrote:

Mr Croft wrote:

as of my reply to which you called me a 'thick t**t' which I understand.

The term was funny t**t!

nowhere did I suggest that you were thick  

my bad I am blind (H)

[Filo]

CusworthRovers wrote:

I feel personally we should have a singing/standing section in the NE Corner rather than the NW one. In the first half season here, I was in the East North B section and there was potential for a great atmosphere, but it was lacking lads, misters.

So what you`re saying cussy is when you were in that area it was full of bum bandits?  

[WSBBA_Ben]

Cusworth Rover makes a good point, though the problem we have there is; nowhere to hang the flags of which we would like another in honour of the Pop Stand and there isn't any scope to bang on the back wall, as it's boxes and I'm sure they wouldn't be too pleased at the prospect of us banging on the glass while they're tucking in to their drum sticks.

[WSBBA_Joe]

North stand = Away stand/Rosso end
East Stand = Family stand/Main stand
South stand = Town end
West stand = Pop Stand!!!!!!!!!!!

[Filo]

WSBBA_Joe wrote:

And Filo you need to calm down and stop having ago, noone being out of order to you, yes you are admin but doesnt mean you can give out abuse!!!

If you think that was abuse, you`re on the wrong forum matey, this forum is getting a bit sterile, with it`s political correctness

[Filo]

WSBBA_Joe wrote:

North stand = Away stand/Rosso end
East Stand = Family stand/Main stand
South stand = Town end
West stand = Pop Stand!!!!!!!!!!!

Right! I`m not being negative, i think you`ve got a point, but one thing sticks out for me. It`s obvious you are a West Stander, but you expect everyone one to move to where you are, when anyone suggests a different area you dismiss it, it seems to me that you are not prepared to move

[Snods Shinpad 2]

WSBBA_Ben wrote:

Cusworth Rover makes a good point, though the problem we have there is; nowhere to hang the flags of which we would like another in honour of the Pop Stand and there isn't any scope to bang on the back wall, as it's boxes and I'm sure they wouldn't be too pleased at the prospect of us banging on the glass while they're tucking in to their drum sticks.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTNP3Yx4f-Q&feature=related [/video]

 

*edit. Haha. Beat me to it Filo.

[CusworthRovers]

WSSBA Ben

The NE corner has no boxes, they stop so far down.

[thornerover94]

cant some one put a vote on and see what it turns up and we will see where most fans would prefer to sit and the take it from there

[SkellowRover]

Like i said earlier in this threrad and now cussy has brought it up the NE part of the ground would be the best. It has more seats then the NW due to the disabled section half way up the West stand and also has less ST holders which would make it easier to admistrate and happen. I used to have my ST towards the NE corner before switching to the SS so i know what it's like over there and If the West standers are wanting people to move then they should be expected too themselves if there is a better option.

[Filo]

thornerover94 wrote:

cant some one put a vote on and see what it turns up and we will see where most fans would prefer to sit and the take it from there

There`s no point, no one takes any notice of a Poll on here

[Mr Croft]

I think it would be easier to give all these possibilities to the club, and yes rigo the south stand was thje best its been, but it was also the best its gonna get, and some people want more, the stadium does have potential, but given its lay out, the noise from the south stand doesnt carry as far as that from the south given that the south stand needs a north wind to help make it louder.

but giving the choice to the club would probably be the best as they would do the crossing out of all possibilities rather than us fans having a go at it for free, lets give them who work the OS to finally do a job they get paid for and help the fans.

[jmt]

do the west stand sing? you see about 20 fans, hands in the air,but no noise!

[DMnumber4]

Ben, I love the idea you've come up with.

The best atmosphere I've experienced so far came at Accrington of all places. They're terrific and honestly don't shut up for 90 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQRo7vTdBUQ&feature=related

Forza Stanley Ultras!

[DMnumber4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Inv49Ghr8&NR=1

now thats an atmosphere  

[Rios]

jmt wrote:

do the west stand sing? you see about 20 fans, hands in the air,but no noise!

And as I've said from day one, the away fans (and those in West Stand B) can't hear the south stand either, hence the complete lack of atmosphere.

I'm glad to see Ben and other have finally taken up the baton and decided to do something positive.  I sit in West 'B' and there are games where I do get involved, others I don't.  It's also good to see that those who do it every game have laid off the \"shit support\" slanging to our fellow fans which helped against Forest.

As has been pointed out there's going to have to be a compromise from everyone, including not only the fans moving/displaced but also the club and KMS who have done little but are quick to complain about the small attendances.  Well here's some people with a good idea which is bound to encourage others to attend due to a decent match experience.  I can't imagine that if I was a kid again that attending the Keepmoat would have lit my fire in the way that Belle Vue or Stamford Bridge (where I watched my first ever live game of football) did.

[Donnyboy]

I've been reading through all the posts due to my internet being down all day   i haven't been able to comment, i am a massive supporter and advocate for a singing section at the KM and i think its a great idea. Now what about if the club are willing we propose we use one game this season in a certain part of the ground to test this out? i.e. if you have a season ticket in another aprt of the ground you can swap it for a single ticket for the  \"singing section\" for the proposed game? hence people will not have to uproot their season tickets for an entire season on the premise it might be good.

If we can get one game to get all the singers together and see how it goes from there? just an idea.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I'm all for it.  As for West or South, it makes no odds, we can have both. There's plenty of people in all areas of the ground up for it, why not have one in the west and one lot in the South and get them bouncing off each other.

Everyone remembers the Pop side at Belle Vue but the Main Stand made more noise when they sung up aswell.  It was brilliant when both sang to each other.

[NathanDRFC]

I've added a poll.

[VikingJames]

Don't know if anyone as said it as I haven't trawled through the entire thread, but surely the singing section should be in a cheaper area? So then nobody is priced out, and people who already have a Cat B or C seat don't have to pay more just to be able to sing.

[coventryrover]

WSBBA_Ben wrote:

Filo wrote:

Mr Croft wrote:

We plan to move it to the segregation part that no one sits in, only the odd steward over there may feel like he is being forced out

Funny t**t!


A valid question!


Personally i think the segregation area will be a no go, as someone earlier mentioned, if all the singers got together in the southstand, theres plenty of available seats then the fact that the noise will be comming from that area might just encourage the people around to join in

Well, we're going to try and run with this, I feel you're been pretty negative towards this Filo; we're realistic and I think if we sit down with the club, it'll make sense. Mr. Croft is right, there are stewards to police an area which isn't been used. The South Stand isn't an option, you cannot create an amosphere which will intimated travelling players and fans from the other end of the stadium.

[/b]

Why.??  Virtually every teams singing section/intimidaing support comes from the home end behind the goal eg Liverpool, Owls, Blades, Leeds etc etc etc.

When I see the away end full and the oppo fans in full voice it is awesome, why cant the ss be the same

[Bristol Red Rover]

DMnumber4 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Inv49Ghr8&NR=1

now thats an atmosphere  

Now *this* is an atmosphere, or somewhere up in the atmosphere  

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p170mCnL0mM[/video]

Can we have a burn yourself alive section too?

[Norfolk N Chance]

no brainer - you have your kop..south stand

[Snods Shinpad 2]

Bristol Red Rover wrote:

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p170mCnL0mM[/video]

Can we have a burn yourself alive section too?

You just know that somewhere in the middle of all that, there is some bloke from Donny tugging on the back of someones shirt.

\"Ere mate, sit bloody down. I can't see a bloody thing\"

[WSBBA_Joe]

jmt wrote:

do the west stand sing? you see about 20 fans, hands in the air,but no noise!

Yep we do, we are the only ones the away fans hear and the only ones who sing for 90mins not just when we score!! We are all lads who used to be in the middle of the Pop Stand!! Which is why we want to bring that back!