Post-March ST price rises - Two scenarios

[BillyStubbsTears]

Well, three really, the third one being that it's just another admin f**k-up.


I've been wondering why the club is so eager to ram through season ticket sales so early, despite (presumably) knowing that it will be very difficult to people to find the spare cash at such short notice, and that this will inevitably cause serious ill-feeling. I reckon there are two possible reasons.

The two are these. Take your pick depending on whether you are a cynic or a Panglossian (and THERE's a word that should be used more often in togger-related debate).

1) The club desperately wants to sign Sharp and Shackell, and needs to know up front what the likely financial situation is for next season. Get 6,000 ST sales in by the end of March and we'd have a couple of million quid in the bank to enable us to go out and sign the players that we need to be a real force next season. Plus, with those signings made in May, further ST sales at higher cost would be expected throughout the summer as the optimism for next season starts to grow.

2) The club realises that it is in no position to sign either Sharp or Shackell. Stock may well be on his way after the end of the season. What would the ST sales look like at the end of May if by then Sharp, Stock and Shackell are all signed up by other clubs? Better to get the sales in now.

Take your pick lads and lasses. I can't think of any other reason for the club to try to steamroller the ST sales through so early.

[bpoolrover]

BillyStubbsTears wrote:

Well, three really, the third one being that it's just another admin fcuk-up.


I've been wondering why the club is so eager to ram through season ticket sales so early, despite (presumably) knowing that it will be very difficult to people to find the spare cash at such short notice, and that this will inevitably cause serious ill-feeling. I reckon there are two possible reasons.

The two are these. Take your pick depending on whether you are a cynic or a Panglossian (and THERE's a word that should be used more often in togger-related debate).

1) The club desperately wants to sign Sharp and Shackell, and needs to know up front what the likely financial situation is for next season. Get 6,000 ST sales in by the end of March and we'd have a couple of million quid in the bank to enable us to go out and sign the players that we need to be a real force next season. Plus, with those signings made in May, further ST sales at higher cost would be expected throughout the summer as the optimism for next season starts to grow.

2) The club realises that it is in no position to sign either Sharp or Shackell. Stock may well be on his way after the end of the season. What would the ST sales look like at the end of May if by then Sharp, Stock and Shackell are all signed up by other clubs? Better to get the sales in now.

Take your pick lads and lasses. I can't think of any other reason for the club to try to steamroller the ST sales through so early.

i will go for number 1,going on jr statement and with the fact stocky has a poorly back doubt anyone would risk buying him

[Snods Shinpad 2]

I think you have hit the nail on the head Mr Stubbs with either of those scenarios.

I posted something similar on the 'fao gartom' thread.


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The point you make about the majority renewing early is probably right, which got me thinking about the the situation we face with all those out of contract players and loanees we may or may not sign.

I'm just speculating here, but maybe this early bird deadline being so tight could be to do with the fact we're going to have to make some pretty rapid decisions about who we keep or release. We can't wait until the end of the season before offering contracts, as by then a player may have been tempted elsewhere.

Plus, the club should know by then what division we are in.

If the money is in the coffers early, the club can have a decent idea as to income and cut their cloth accordingly.

Personally I wouldn't be surprised at all to see this early bird deadline extended as we get close to the deadline (as Sheffield Wednesday did), with the club 'having listened to supporters opinion', or some other excuse. In the meantime, the club have a decent percentage of Season Ticket money in the bank already, to offer new contracts or not as the case may be.

Not saying this is right, but it may be an explanation.

*or, as you say, it was an admin fook up.  

[BillyStubbsTears]

Apologies Snod. I've never had an original idea in me life.

[Danmckay456]

You would of thought by now Rovers would of jumped on the credit card bandwagon like most clubs do !!! I for one after today`s news would snap one up and not worry about paying the  full amount in one go .....

[Snods Shinpad 2]

BillyStubbsTears wrote:

Apologies Snod. I've never had an original idea in me life.

To be able to sleep soundly I'll pray for the panglossian option 1.

If option 2 comes to pass, then I won't be looking forward to the thirteen page rants on here.



Danmckay456 wrote:

You would of thought by now Rovers would of jumped on the credit card bandwagon like most clubs do !!! I for one after today`s news would snap one up and not worry about paying the  full amount in one go .....

I read this on the Burnley OS:

Payment by credit and debit card

As we have noted for the past couple of seasons, the issue of payment by credit and debit card for season tickets is an important one for us. If you pay by credit card or certain types of debit card, we either have to pay an insurance premium (on top of the normal card margin) to ensure that we receive the money immediately, or accept payment from the card management company in stages throughout the season.
This has a massive impact on the finances of the club, so we ask that you do not pay by credit or visa debit card.

Maybe explains why we don't do it. Another indication we want some hard cash in the bank a.s.a.p. ?

[selby]

The rush by most teams for early season ticket sales could also be because of the lack of bank backing when income streams through lack of games in the summer months.I certainly think this is the reason for the Wendies pushing them and  I think the cup competitions will be more important to clubs in the coming seasons.Those clubs strugeling now are going to find it very hard in the close season without game income. I think that there will be a few surprises and hopefully we as a club can go forward or even tread water as some clubs that are perceived as historically bigger than ourseves hit the buffers.One last comment I cannot beleive that some of our so called supporters are saying that they will only go to away matches next year instead of renewing their season tickets.This season I have thought that some of the ex premier sides have been very expensive for poor views Newcastle and Leicester espesially.

[River Don]

I'd plump for admin fcuk-up/they didn't give any of it proper consideration.

The price rises have been coming since they've held them for a while now and Rovers are one of the cheaper clubs to watch in the division. Recession? Not considered.

Flexible payments?... Didn't cross anyone's mind.

My bet is they want early ticket renewals simply because it is becoming common practice for football clubs now, giving them a few advantages and they wanted that.

They've implemented the whole shebang in a rushed and royally cack handed way.

It's very sad but not unsurprising to see this kind of practice persists at Rovers.

[River Don]

I'd like to add that I damn well hope the whole thing it's a fcuk up, because if they've launched this policy on purpose with such short notice it looks a lot like the objective is to make those who are less able to pay, find more further down the line.

When you consider all the good will shown to the club by fans with initiatives like the Billy Sharp fund that really would be a slap in the face.

I'm convinced they just haven't given it proper thought.

[Filo]

River Don wrote:

I'd like to add that I damn well hope the whole thing it's a fcuk up, because if they've launched this policy on purpose with such short notice it looks a lot like the objective is to make those who are less able to pay, find more further down the line.

When you consider all the good will shown to the club by fans with initiatives like the Billy Sharp fund that really would be a slap in the face.

I'm convinced they just haven't given it proper thought.

I`ll go along with that, it appears there`s been no foresight at all, which is par for the course really

[ferribyrover]

I'll go for option 1 please. Is there a prize, say a free season ticket, if we guess the right option?