Jesus's Revelations

[JESUSISHERE]

I think after last night's game I can say the following:

1. If thats all the top of the championship has to offer, we have to re-evaluate our aspirations for next season.

2. Certain referees seemed to be intimidated by the name 'Newcastle' and can't ref a 50/50 game

3. Mark Wilson has made one mistake too many

4. When we play 'proper football', we can make any team look average, when we start playing the long ball, we look like an average championship team

[Albert Trousers]

Agree with all of those points apart from no.3
Wilson made no more mistakes than any other player, given the fact that he plays in the centre of midfield where most of our play goes through he sees more of the ball than most.
Maybe if Sheils wanted the ball and showed as much commitment as Wilson we might have created a few more chances and not looked like we were playing with 10 men?

[JESUSISHERE]

I agree that there were many players on the pitch last night that had a, lets say 'sloppy' game, but my 'opinion' on wilson is an accumulation over the season from what ive seen at home games and that is a few too many simple mistakes that end up causing us bigger problems i.e. the Newcastle goal last night

[DonnyNoel]

JESUSISHERE wrote:

I agree that there were many players on the pitch last night that had a, lets say 'sloppy' game, but my 'opinion' on wilson is an accumulation over the season from what ive seen at home games and that is a few too many simple mistakes that end up causing us bigger problems i.e. the Newcastle goal last night

What other ones though? I'm sure if you're harsh enough you can put most opposition goals down to a mistake by one of our players at some point. I don't get to many away games but whilst Wilson (like others) certainly makes mistakes, I'm struggling to recall times when I've thought \"Wilson lead to that goal\"?

PS - aren't you into forgiveness anymore?  

[JESUSISHERE]

maybe it's the frustration of the last 2 games, maybe some fans are looking to take their frustrations out on someone and Wilson is an easy target because of his mistake last night I dont know I cant speak for everyone else (I am not always the way to follow!) but I, like a few fans judging by the forum responses and noise in the stadium have seen one stray pass, one lack of tackle (excuse the use of phrase) too many from this particular player. Other players have frustrated us in the past, may be doing it now, and will do in the future, but right now, I feel we could be stronger in that midfield role.  

Hopefully, he will rise to the challenge through to the end of the season and prove many Rovers fans wrong but at the moment he isn't doing that.  We've all seen the turn around Sheff Utd fans have done regarding Billy Sharp so maybe Rovers fans could do the same with Wilson.

[TheRev]

Believe me Forum Members............

This guy isn't Jesus  

[JESUSISHERE]

any particular reason Rev? Wanna put your opinions across, this is a forum ya know, where we should be putting our opinions about the team over, not opinions of other forum members...

[TheRev]

JESUSISHERE wrote:

I think after last night's game I can say the following:

1. If thats all the top of the championship has to offer, we have to re-evaluate our aspirations for next season.

2. Certain referees seemed to be intimidated by the name 'Newcastle' and can't ref a 50/50 game

3. Mark Wilson has made one mistake too many

4. When we play 'proper football', we can make any team look average, when we start playing the long ball, we look like an average championship team

1) What were our aspirtations for this season - SOD's were to stay in this league. JR's - unsure; mine - to enjoy it.
SOD has succeeded - JR not sure - mine have been met.
Next season will depend on the comings and goings in the close season.

2) Don't just use Newcastle as an example. We as supporters (and I bet it just isn't Donny fans) that bitch about decisions not going our way. I thought this Ref was poor but should our management team start doing a Fergy before the game and moan to the press about how Refs are influenced by the \"Bigger Teams\". If our management don't complain then nothing will get changed.

3)Utter tosh. Mark has been one of our better midfield players this season. No he doesn't have (or doesn't show it) the flair that Copps and Oster bring to our team but he's there to play a different game to them. Last night for example I thought he worked extremely hard and had a very good game.

4) Yes we do look very good when we play possession football but I still think the long ball (at times, and not the Sheff Utd way) has a place in our game.

And finally my reason why I don't think you are Jesus.......

He'd be supporting Maccabi Tel Aviv or Tottenham  

[JESUSISHERE]

TheRev wrote:

JESUSISHERE wrote:

I think after last night's game I can say the following:

1. If thats all the top of the championship has to offer, we have to re-evaluate our aspirations for next season.

2. Certain referees seemed to be intimidated by the name 'Newcastle' and can't ref a 50/50 game

3. Mark Wilson has made one mistake too many

4. When we play 'proper football', we can make any team look average, when we start playing the long ball, we look like an average championship team

1) What were our aspirtations for this season - SOD's were to stay in this league. JR's - unsure; mine - to enjoy it.
SOD has succeeded - JR not sure - mine have been met.
Next season will depend on the comings and goings in the close season.

2) Don't just use Newcastle as an example. We as supporters (and I bet it just isn't Donny fans) that bitch about decisions not going our way. I thought this Ref was poor but should our management team start doing a Fergy before the game and moan to the press about how Refs are influenced by the \"Bigger Teams\". If our management don't complain then nothing will get changed.

3)Utter tosh. Mark has been one of our better midfield players this season. No he doesn't have (or doesn't show it) the flair that Copps and Oster bring to our team but he's there to play a different game to them. Last night for example I thought he worked extremely hard and had a very good game.

4) Yes we do look very good when we play possession football but I still think the long ball (at times, and not the Sheff Utd way) has a place in our game.

And finally my reason why I don't think you are Jesus.......

He'd be supporting Maccabi Tel Aviv or Tottenham  

1) nothing wrong with my point, youve just stated your own
2) Im using Newcastle because we played them last night and i'm trying to talk about football issues
3)Cant agree with you that he has been one of our better midfielders this season. I felt last night he had a few good moments, but when you get beat 1-0 and he makes the mistake for the goal, you have to question how well he has played. (If a goalkeeper makes half a dozen good saves but then makes a big mistake for a goal and it costs a team the game, you forget about the saves)
4) Where does the long ball have a place in our game? Our midfielders/attackers win minimal amounts of headers and long balls against most teams (how often have we hoofed the ball up, its been flicked on and we've scored?) Our strengths lie on the ground not in the air.

[DonnyNoel]

JESUSISHERE wrote:

TheRev wrote:

JESUSISHERE wrote:

I think after last night's game I can say the following:

1. If thats all the top of the championship has to offer, we have to re-evaluate our aspirations for next season.

2. Certain referees seemed to be intimidated by the name 'Newcastle' and can't ref a 50/50 game

3. Mark Wilson has made one mistake too many

4. When we play 'proper football', we can make any team look average, when we start playing the long ball, we look like an average championship team

1) What were our aspirtations for this season - SOD's were to stay in this league. JR's - unsure; mine - to enjoy it.
SOD has succeeded - JR not sure - mine have been met.
Next season will depend on the comings and goings in the close season.

2) Don't just use Newcastle as an example. We as supporters (and I bet it just isn't Donny fans) that bitch about decisions not going our way. I thought this Ref was poor but should our management team start doing a Fergy before the game and moan to the press about how Refs are influenced by the \"Bigger Teams\". If our management don't complain then nothing will get changed.

3)Utter tosh. Mark has been one of our better midfield players this season. No he doesn't have (or doesn't show it) the flair that Copps and Oster bring to our team but he's there to play a different game to them. Last night for example I thought he worked extremely hard and had a very good game.

4) Yes we do look very good when we play possession football but I still think the long ball (at times, and not the Sheff Utd way) has a place in our game.

And finally my reason why I don't think you are Jesus.......

He'd be supporting Maccabi Tel Aviv or Tottenham  

1) nothing wrong with my point, youve just stated your own
2) Im using Newcastle because we played them last night and i'm trying to talk about football issues
3)Cant agree with you that he has been one of our better midfielders this season. I felt last night he had a few good moments, but when you get beat 1-0 and he makes the mistake for the goal, you have to question how well he has played. (If a goalkeeper makes half a dozen good saves but then makes a big mistake for a goal and it costs a team the game, you forget about the saves)
4) Where does the long ball have a place in our game? Our midfielders/attackers win minimal amounts of headers and long balls against most teams (how often have we hoofed the ball up, its been flicked on and we've scored?) Our strengths lie on the ground not in the air.

No, his performance (like others) will (and should) always come under scrutiny but should be viewed overall. Last nights pass was a crap pass and whether Carroll scored or not will always be a crap pass. If he does 5 passes like that a game but no one scores then we should be more worried than if he makes one pass like that in 3/4/5 games and the opposition scores.

JOC was solid last night but nearly cost us a goal with one slip. Would that have made his performance any better or worse? He still slipped, after that its beyond his control.

Ward scored an overhead kick on his debut. Fantastic, but the real measure of his performance was how crap he made Tudgay look for 90 minutes.

[JESUSISHERE]

I agree with what ya saying Noel about performances being viewed overall but its difficult to do that when one crap pass as you put it has cost us the only goal of the game.  

Had we been beat by 2 or 3 goals or even if Newcastle had had more good chances then maybe people wouldnt be as criticising towards Wilson but because they pretty much had that one clear cut chance and scored, its what is remembered about the game rather than us performing well against top of the table, soon to be premiership side.

[goalkick]

thinkyou are very brave jesus one of the things i would have thought you would have realised is you are not entitled to your own opinion on this forum about football.the mafia will have your card marked.  

[JESUSISHERE]

They can have it marked goalkick, im here to talk about football, state my opinions about Doncaster Rovers issues, ive made it clear where abouts people can find me in the stadium if they want to talk to me, im easy to find the WSBBA will point the way if you need help

[Filo]

goalkick wrote:

the mafia will have your card marked.  

I hope you`re not having an opinion there goalkick!

[goalkick]

nice to hear that statement pal.needs someone to talk about football issues and cut out all bickering,everyone is entitled to there own opinion,

[goalkick]

no way filo dont want beating up in the carpark,

[Sam west stand b]

3) totally agree bring in spicer or mutch and give them a chance wilson has had his chance everyone to there own i say

[BLIR]

JESUSISHERE wrote:

They can have it marked goalkick, im here to talk about football, state my opinions about Doncaster Rovers issues, ive made it clear where abouts people can find me in the stadium if they want to talk to me, im easy to find the WSBBA will point the way if you need help

Just follow the star  

[Barmby Rover]

Wilson didn't have a worse game than Oster did. How often did Oster lose the ball in the last 10-15 minutes instead of getting the pass forward? Why couldn't JOC step up the pace to challenge Carroll? Why didn't Sulli cut the angle down more and save from Carroll? Players make errors, one from Wilson is not a terrible performance, he had a good game, as did JOC, Sulli and Oster, but we lost.

[Bentley Bullet]

When Sharp was fouled by their centre half (who was last man and therefore should have walked),Who supplied the defence splitting pass that created the situation?

[RobTheRover]

goalkick wrote:

thinkyou are very brave jesus one of the things i would have thought you would have realised is you are not entitled to your own opinion on this forum about football.the mafia will have your card marked.  

I thought the Mafia were good Catholic boys?

[donnyjay]

Is that the Italian Mafia or the VSC Mafia?