John Ryan - OS

[DannyRovers]

http://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/page/Home/0,,10329,00.html

Interesting piece from Mr.Ryan. Explains why we didnt get shacks and also how he understands Robbo did what he did. Also says he has given SOD the biggest tranfer budget he has given to any manager and by a significant amount. Thanks John for the info, I for one feel a lot better

[grayx]

DannyRovers wrote:

http://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/page/Home/0,,10329,00.html

Interesting piece from Mr.Ryan. Explains why we didnt get shacks and also how he understands Robbo did what he did. Also says he has given SOD the biggest tranfer budget he has given to any manager and by a significant amount. Thanks John for the info, I for one feel a lot better

Really? To be honest it wouldn't take a great deal to break his previous transfer budgets would it. I for one think we need to get an established team together & stop relying on loan signings so much. It just gives us the same problem every season when these loans finish.

[sha66y]

and what are the \"problems\" when these loan signings finish?

we are improving year on year, so from where i am sat it looks like we are focusing on keeping the money tight and serving up delicious edge of the seat entertainment......... at this moment in time .....we are doing the right (yet frustrating at times) things,

we have no problems, we are what we are!!!!! just enjoy it....

cheers

[LE6Rover]

I think it tells it like it is!

The club has a budget - subsidised by JR and the other directors - end of.

As in his book; JR trusts in SOD etc. to mine out the talent whilst remaining within the budget.

Although I imagine its a pain to manage it was a pleasure as a supporter to watch the wonder goals scored by each of our loanees (Mutch, Ward, JET etc.) in their first match this season!

Onwards and upwards ...

[grayx]

sha66y wrote:

and what are the \"problems\" when these loan signings finish?/quote]
 The \"problem\" is SOD is back to square one. How is he going to get a settled team when players come for a few months,fit in with the way we play,then move on?. It must be as frustrating as fcuk for him.

[topnotch_Donny]

grayx wrote:

sha66y wrote:

and what are the \"problems\" when these loan signings finish?/quote]
 The \"problem\" is SOD is back to square one. How is he going to get a settled team when players come for a few months,fit in with the way we play,then move on?. It must be as frustrating as fcuk for him.

He might like the challenge  :cheer:

[bobjimwilly]

Of course it is frustrating, but it's part of being a football manager. And if Sean has a larger budget than last season, he must be happier than he was last season?

Last year it was Mills and Wellens; this year (so far) it is Roberts and Shackell; and Shackell wasn't even technically our player to begin with!

In SOD we trust...

 

[sha66y]

square one is ok, (wherever that is )!

we dont need a settled team obviously, because we are improving ,year on year!!

i doubt it is more frustrating for SOD, i think he relishes these little challenges,

we the supporters are the \"hot under the collar, frustrated,bewildered, confused\" lot.

i honestly cant see how the posters on here can be \"venting there collective spleens\" and bemoaning the lack of signings and possible signings,this early.....

i dont care what other teams are doing and what possible targets (championship manager-esque) are being snavelled up,........ if any Rovers fan, can come on here and say that we are \"DEFINATELY\" going to struggle next year and possibly be relegated, please speak up!!!!

3 things can happen next season,
1. we stay in this division
2.we get relegated
3. we get promoted

anything else is a bonus..... lol

[Drover]

DannyRovers wrote:

http://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/page/Home/0,,10329,00.html

Interesting piece from Mr.Ryan. Explains why we didnt get shacks and also how he understands Robbo did what he did. Also says he has given SOD the biggest tranfer budget he has given to any manager and by a significant amount. Thanks John for the info, I for one feel a lot better

I don't think the transfer budget has been a problem,it's the wages budget.Not that I am saying we should risk the finacial state of Rovers just that its wages that keep holding us back with some signings and keeping players that are at the end of their contracts rather than transfer fees.

[RoversAlias]

Good article, I for one am happy that John Ryan has come out and said this rather than leaving us all in the dark and enjoying his holiday. Let's remember that in 2007 we broke our transfer record a couple of times to bring in the likes of Brian Stock and James Hayter, as well as Martin Woods, Neil Sullivan and Sam Hird, and we were promoted come the end of the season. This is encouraging for sure, some people I suppose will find the negatives in everything though.

[grayx]

i doubt it is more frustrating for SOD, i think he relishes these little challenges, /quote]

  Yeah, course he does.

[donnyjay]

grayx wrote:

i doubt it is more frustrating for SOD, i think he relishes these little challenges, /quote]

  Yeah, course he does.

It's a pity he wasn't our manager when Richardson was in charge. He'd've had the time of his life.

[topnotch_Donny]

donnyjay wrote:

grayx wrote:

i doubt it is more frustrating for SOD, i think he relishes these little challenges, /quote]

  Yeah, course he does.

It's a pity he wasn't our manager when Richardson was in charge. He'd've had the time of his life.

Ah, but it takes a man of sound judgment to bring in the likes of SOD. When he first came here, it was, Sean who?

This is all down to JR, and his bang on judgement. I wouldn't be surprised if JR replaced SOD (if SOD decided to move)and we progressed even further.

We really shouldn't worry whilst John Ryan is at the helm. People laugh at his judgement (especially opposition fans) but he's never far out in his judgments.

[DMnumber4]

RoversAlias wrote:

Good article, I for one am happy that John Ryan has come out and said this rather than leaving us all in the dark and enjoying his holiday. Let's remember that in 2007 we broke our transfer record a couple of times to bring in the likes of Brian Stock and James Hayter, as well as Martin Woods, Neil Sullivan and Sam Hird, and we were promoted come the end of the season. This is encouraging for sure, some people I suppose will find the negatives in everything though.

Stock - 140k
Hayter - 200k
Woods- FREE
Sullivan - FREE
Hird - FREE

Technically we only broke our record once then.

I remember signing Gary Williams for 60k in the Conference and it was a hell of a lot then. 8 or 10 years on and we're still reluctant to spend that sort of money on a player like Jason Walker at Barrow.

I'm not saying we need to spend £X million just because Sheffield United or whoever have. And if you look at what Ched Evans, Jamie Ward and Sharp combined have done for them, it works out at around £6M!

It would just be nice to tie up the likes of Chris Taylor or Billy Paynter for 300k - 400k from the leagues below. I guess that's what we tried doing with Shack and it didn't work, but we've done it with Mills and hopefully we'll do it again.

Just one last comment. Blackpool spent 500k on Charlie Adam, he's the difference between us two I reckon, that's about it.

[MrFrost]

What about the 150k we wasted on Justin Jackson

[MrFrost]

What about the 150k we wasted on Justin Jackson

[Snods Shinpad 2]

Sorry to fart in the lift, but where does it say anything about SOD receiving the largest transfer budget in our history?

If you read the article it says 'largest budget'. Transfer fees and wages presumably come from the same pot.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

\"I know that many fans are moaning about the loss of these two (Shackell and Roberts) as they did last season with the loss of Matthew Mills and Richie Wellens. However the time to moan is if we do not do well when the season starts, not now. Remember last season when Sean worked hard to replace those two? We finished higher than the season before! Once again Sean and his team are out there working tirelessly to rebuild the side for next season. If you want the Club to throw ridiculous amounts at the market then look at Crystal Palace who are in financial meltdown with others close.\"

The essence of what JR is saying here is quite true but I wish he would chose his words more carefully. We debate the merits about players in players out etc, but why does he see our 'concerns' as 'moans' ?

If you can't understand why we are concerned then it must be down to the same reason you think putting up season ticket prices will increase sales and revenue.

If you keep going down this road John all our faith and dreams will go up in smoke.

Whilst some of us have invested a substantial amount of money in our season ticket, a neighbour club has set a ST price structure that attracts more fans to renew their ST.

And so far what we have seen is our rivals paying less for their ST and getting Jason Shackell in return !

Of course we don't want the club to spend beyond it's means and, it's right to have a wages structure but don't treat us with contempt, we're not stupid.

Or may be I am for forking out £420 !!

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Thing with JR is his passion shines through meaning his statements aren't always as rounded as they'd normally be if he didn't have that passion.  Makes him that little bit more unique his personality shines through whether we like it or not.

I'm 100 percent with the management on this.  Even if we end up with a team of youngsters, the budget has to come first.  The club goes on whether we sign Sharp and Shackell or two Sunday league players.  This club has to be built upon not spending and improving players to sell on etc.  I'm sure we'll see Webster getting a bigger role soon and hopefully a few other youngsters such as Woods, Dumbaya and Fairhurst.

Having said that, it makes the youth team more important.  We're still a COE when many say an academy produces better results even it does cost more.  But wouldn't we be better putting 100 percent effort into an academy and creating better youngsters.  that way it will pay for itself in the benefits we get as like it or not, the quality of youngsters coming through hasn't really been great has it?

[steve@dcfd]

Why does JR constantly use the word moaning, last year the VSC meeting he had a go at supporters and in the article again he has to say moaning. The problem is he feels he is always right. he was the one who said we will be aiming for the playoffs was that true statement or just to sell season tickets.Does he respect the supporters at the club I am not sure.Does he want the supporters to follow him blindly and not say a wrong word, I think so. We all know we want a stable club. So in stead of saying we are going for the playoffs. he should temper the sales pitch and say under the circumstances we will do our best. Do not see other chairman calling their supporters moaners why should he. This will not help support he craves and we want.