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SignedIs this the petition Marcus Rashford is promoting?
I see that Tory scum that won Don Valley voted against it, what a bas**rd he is, those that voted for him hang your heads, you were conned big time
I think some of the points made about parents taking more responsibility are correct, some parents must get their responsibilities right. But that's not all of them and fact is to feed children a healthy balanced diet costs an absolute fortune, I don't know how we address that. Long term paying for kid's meals is not the right answer, improving the income or reducing outgoings of some parents is a better answer. But that's long term. Short term just fund the bloody thing for a few weeks.One of the things I always found odd (I used to work in this area) was the takeup on FSM. It wasn't as high as you think, a number of those eligible didn't actually use it. But, the local authorities and providers still received the payment from government. This was 3-4 years ago so may well have changed. I'd perhaps have more sympathy for certain MP's quoting certain things if I didn't know how much profit the local authorities in their area were making on school meals and essentially abusing the system.
Over the summer the taxpayer subsidised families, however wealthy, going out for a meal via the Eat Out to Help Out Scheme.Taxpayers subsidise the cafes and restaraunts in the HoC where MP's earn £80 000 a year.Why is it the country can't provide meals for children whose parents have been made redundant, or had their wages cut due to no fault of their own, over the half-term holidays again?
Quote from: wilts rover on October 22, 2020, 12:59:22 pmOver the summer the taxpayer subsidised families, however wealthy, going out for a meal via the Eat Out to Help Out Scheme.Taxpayers subsidise the cafes and restaraunts in the HoC where MP's earn £80 000 a year.Why is it the country can't provide meals for children whose parents have been made redundant, or had their wages cut due to no fault of their own, over the half-term holidays again?Why can't councils use the funds they receive for unused school meals and keep at full profit?
........And that is precisely why socialism doesn't work.
It really annoys me that we have a society that can't cook at home and then essentially waste money on takeaways and eating out that costs 3 or 4 times the amount that it would to produce a healthier, more filling meal at home. Many can't or don't want to cook, but others are just plain lazy and then complain that they don't have the money to feed their kids. Like it or not there are many 'professional' benefits claimers out there who could do more to ensure their offspring are well fed and watered.....and it might help matters if you didn't see them smoking & drinking regularly, and have the latest phones, wide screen TV, Sky package etc. It's a real shame that kids go starving and in this "comfortable" society we live in there's the need for food banks to provide nourishment for young families to survive ...... however, I do really get a little disenchanted when I see parents covered in £1000's worth of tattoo's, smoking cigs at a tenner a packet and networking with their mates on their iPhone 11's, whilst shoving their offspring forward with the other hand, starving because they haven't had any breakfast... They have lost any sense of personal responsibility and it's utterly disgusting - try to prioritise your number one life responsibility. FEED YOUR CHILDREN.IMO it is all about priorities.... correctly organised priorities.... just like my parents prioritised...... When I was a kid my family were skint - as were lots of the family's around us. It may have been hid behind closed doors, but I don’t recall anyone not being able to feed their kids. True, we didn’t eat like kings and we maybe ate cheaper meats and loads of veg and spuds because they were cheap... but we ate well. I have (and still could) easily feed a young adult/child on less than £20 p/w - including treats. It doesn't cost much to eat -healthy food is available and buying it should be the first priority not the last.Unfortunately we have a generation of crap parents that are being led by a nanny state... which in turn will/have produced crap parents depending on a nanny state. Having kids isn't a right - it's a huge responsibility.
You do know that this is all happening under capitalism, don't you? I was starting to think there were a few things even you wouldn't use to bait the lefties, BB. Obviously starving kids isn't one of them.MM, this often doesn't go down well with your generation, but there's a difference between being skint and just about managing as you describe and being below the poverty line. This generation is going through hardships that yours couldn't even imagine. Most parents in poverty are in work - https://www.jrf.org.uk/report/what-has-driven-rise-work-poverty - some in several jobs. Many are on insecure zero hour contracts. There's no safety net there for them. If you ate well, you were lucky. Privileged. Kids today are not so lucky. I assure you, you're getting annoyed at the wrong thing.
MM. I have great sympathy for starving kids, even when their parents are spending money on fags and booze and top of the range mobiles. I sympathise with those kids because they have parents who use them as bargaining tools to claim benefits that are provided by people who genuinely care. People like you and me. Their parents don't have to care. We care for them.It is these people who you should be condemning, not me! Many genuinely desperate people have to go without because of them.