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Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.
Quote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?
Quote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?
Quote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.
Quote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise.
Quote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.
At the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Is it not a fact that our directors Net worth is approx half a billion pounds?By donating £1m each season the directors are keeping us in league 1 or 2?Are the directors prepared to risk going above that £1m per person per season to give the Manager more funds to try and achieve promotion?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Is it not a fact that our directors Net worth is approx half a billion pounds?By donating £1m each season the directors are keeping us in league 1 or 2?Are the directors prepared to risk going above that £1m per person per season to give the Manager more funds to try and achieve promotion?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 02:39:04 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Is it not a fact that our directors Net worth is approx half a billion pounds?By donating £1m each season the directors are keeping us in league 1 or 2?Are the directors prepared to risk going above that £1m per person per season to give the Manager more funds to try and achieve promotion?But nothing about the bit in bold I was addressing? Any facts to back that up at all?
Quote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:18:51 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Is it not a fact that our directors Net worth is approx half a billion pounds?By donating £1m each season the directors are keeping us in league 1 or 2?Are the directors prepared to risk going above that £1m per person per season to give the Manager more funds to try and achieve promotion?But they do? You might wanna read the accounts xI guess we're still waiting on facts from Cantley.
If you ran football clubs on sentiment everybody would get promoted and nobody would be relegated.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on June 08, 2018, 02:43:29 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:18:51 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Is it not a fact that our directors Net worth is approx half a billion pounds?By donating £1m each season the directors are keeping us in league 1 or 2?Are the directors prepared to risk going above that £1m per person per season to give the Manager more funds to try and achieve promotion?But they do? You might wanna read the accounts xI guess we're still waiting on facts from Cantley.Do you remember the question being put to TB at the first meet the owners meeting after JR left?From memory It was along the lines of "Will you be putting more money in?"TB stated that the intention was to aim for a sustainable club operating at a level we are comfortable with. I believe that we have achieved that level.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 02:48:23 pmIf you ran football clubs on sentiment everybody would get promoted and nobody would be relegated.Ha ha a comedian as well. You know exactly what I meant by the use of the word sentiment.
Quote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:49:31 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 08, 2018, 02:43:29 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:18:51 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Is it not a fact that our directors Net worth is approx half a billion pounds?By donating £1m each season the directors are keeping us in league 1 or 2?Are the directors prepared to risk going above that £1m per person per season to give the Manager more funds to try and achieve promotion?But they do? You might wanna read the accounts xI guess we're still waiting on facts from Cantley.Do you remember the question being put to TB at the first meet the owners meeting after JR left?From memory It was along the lines of "Will you be putting more money in?"TB stated that the intention was to aim for a sustainable club operating at a level we are comfortable with. I believe that we have achieved that level.What do you base that belief on, more sentiment?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 02:50:53 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:49:31 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 08, 2018, 02:43:29 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:18:51 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Is it not a fact that our directors Net worth is approx half a billion pounds?By donating £1m each season the directors are keeping us in league 1 or 2?Are the directors prepared to risk going above that £1m per person per season to give the Manager more funds to try and achieve promotion?But they do? You might wanna read the accounts xI guess we're still waiting on facts from Cantley.Do you remember the question being put to TB at the first meet the owners meeting after JR left?From memory It was along the lines of "Will you be putting more money in?"TB stated that the intention was to aim for a sustainable club operating at a level we are comfortable with. I believe that we have achieved that level.What do you base that belief on, more sentiment?So he didn't say that then?
Quote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:56:08 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 02:50:53 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:49:31 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 08, 2018, 02:43:29 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:18:51 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Is it not a fact that our directors Net worth is approx half a billion pounds?By donating £1m each season the directors are keeping us in league 1 or 2?Are the directors prepared to risk going above that £1m per person per season to give the Manager more funds to try and achieve promotion?But they do? You might wanna read the accounts xI guess we're still waiting on facts from Cantley.Do you remember the question being put to TB at the first meet the owners meeting after JR left?From memory It was along the lines of "Will you be putting more money in?"TB stated that the intention was to aim for a sustainable club operating at a level we are comfortable with. I believe that we have achieved that level.What do you base that belief on, more sentiment?So he didn't say that then?Why are you trying to turn it to about what TB said when I'm questioning your belief that 'we have achieved that level' of sustainability? Unless TB has said that we've achieved that level of sustainability and I'm not aware of it...which is unlikely given that DRFC are still dependent on somebody (anybody, niot just the current board) chucking £2m at year at them to break even.
Gentlemen we all know the facts on the budget are not in the public domain. We can see from companies house tha Doncaster Rovers Ltd and Club Doncaster ( the major Share holder) have very little Debt. We can see on average that Club Doncaster cover the shortfall hence the owners putting money in to ensure DRFC is a well run club.But we will never know what wages are hence budget because they are not published. There are a few who do see these figures on behalf of the VSC so they have more knowledge hence perceived more Power in the debate.What we do know is that next season the manager who ever it may be will be tasked with a top six finish. He will need more quality players to achieve that goal. So funds available will hopefully allow the manager to achieve that goal. Only in hindsight will we know whether the funds will be spent wisely. If we finish in the top six then it can be said the manager as achieve his goal. But things happen in football is not played on a spread sheet. Injuries bad ones can decimate a small squad. Then second string players will have to play more. So we all hope the club can progress but debates will continue. Last season is behind us.We consolidated in the league, we moved the club forward the CEO publicly in the press said we had a good season. Wanted to progress to an higher postion this season. We achieved 8000+ crowds on average higher than the 7000 base set. We all wanted to finish higher I have give my reason and opinions early in the thread why this was not achieved.So we all must hope the right manager is selected he can sign the quality players we require, although the biggest part of the squad wont be his players. But he must try and knit the squad together and the funds available are sufficient to achieve the goal of the directors, board members to progress the club to hopefully a play off place.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 03:08:50 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:56:08 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 02:50:53 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:49:31 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 08, 2018, 02:43:29 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:18:51 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Is it not a fact that our directors Net worth is approx half a billion pounds?By donating £1m each season the directors are keeping us in league 1 or 2?Are the directors prepared to risk going above that £1m per person per season to give the Manager more funds to try and achieve promotion?But they do? You might wanna read the accounts xI guess we're still waiting on facts from Cantley.Do you remember the question being put to TB at the first meet the owners meeting after JR left?From memory It was along the lines of "Will you be putting more money in?"TB stated that the intention was to aim for a sustainable club operating at a level we are comfortable with. I believe that we have achieved that level.What do you base that belief on, more sentiment?So he didn't say that then?Why are you trying to turn it to about what TB said when I'm questioning your belief that 'we have achieved that level' of sustainability? Unless TB has said that we've achieved that level of sustainability and I'm not aware of it...which is unlikely given that DRFC are still dependent on somebody (anybody, niot just the current board) chucking £2m at year at them to break even.I give in you have won. After a while of banging your head against a brick wall it begins to hurt.
Quote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 03:15:09 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 03:08:50 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:56:08 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 02:50:53 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:49:31 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on June 08, 2018, 02:43:29 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 08, 2018, 02:18:51 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 08, 2018, 01:58:05 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on June 07, 2018, 10:34:40 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 09:04:39 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 08:17:39 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 03:12:02 pmQuote from: RoversAlias on June 07, 2018, 02:43:46 pmQuote from: Cantley Rover on June 07, 2018, 02:19:05 pmAt the end of the day let's all accept the facts. We are a league 1 club with directors whose personal wealth is probably in the region of half a billion pounds.They are prepared to keep the club going with the least amount of finance that will enable us to remain in this division but not risk trying to get any higher.So the result is we are a sustainable league 1 club. Let just accept that and get on with it. Forget championship football unless we acheive a fluke it aint going to happen.That is completely unfounded, not a fact at all.That is your opinion. I think otherwise. You might have to look up what a fact actually is in that case.Do you want to point out where I am wrong then and back it up with facts?The bit in bold. Facts? The fact they've already financed us into the Championship once already and paid to keep us there for four seasons.Now then, where are your facts?Still waiting for Cantley's 'facts'.Is it not a fact that our directors Net worth is approx half a billion pounds?By donating £1m each season the directors are keeping us in league 1 or 2?Are the directors prepared to risk going above that £1m per person per season to give the Manager more funds to try and achieve promotion?But they do? You might wanna read the accounts xI guess we're still waiting on facts from Cantley.Do you remember the question being put to TB at the first meet the owners meeting after JR left?From memory It was along the lines of "Will you be putting more money in?"TB stated that the intention was to aim for a sustainable club operating at a level we are comfortable with. I believe that we have achieved that level.What do you base that belief on, more sentiment?So he didn't say that then?Why are you trying to turn it to about what TB said when I'm questioning your belief that 'we have achieved that level' of sustainability? Unless TB has said that we've achieved that level of sustainability and I'm not aware of it...which is unlikely given that DRFC are still dependent on somebody (anybody, niot just the current board) chucking £2m at year at them to break even.I give in you have won. After a while of banging your head against a brick wall it begins to hurt.Thank goodness for that.
How can it be well run if he has to put 2 million quid in to balance the books? With the knowledge of what money can be made by investing enough to reap the benefits of Championship (as promised), and, God forbid Premiership football, why not go the extra mile to attain it?One season in the Premiership he can then get his money back and bugger off.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on June 11, 2018, 02:16:08 amHow can it be well run if he has to put 2 million quid in to balance the books? With the knowledge of what money can be made by investing enough to reap the benefits of Championship (as promised), and, God forbid Premiership football, why not go the extra mile to attain it?One season in the Premiership he can then get his money back and bugger off.Because if we invest and don't get the success then it's a waste of money. Look at Villas attempt at chucking money at the problem.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on June 11, 2018, 10:32:22 amQuote from: Bentley Bullet on June 11, 2018, 02:16:08 amHow can it be well run if he has to put 2 million quid in to balance the books? With the knowledge of what money can be made by investing enough to reap the benefits of Championship (as promised), and, God forbid Premiership football, why not go the extra mile to attain it?One season in the Premiership he can then get his money back and bugger off.Because if we invest and don't get the success then it's a waste of money. Look at Villas attempt at chucking money at the problem.......And they're still a league higher than us.Look at Bournemouth's attempt at chucking money at the problem.
If our owners have to put 2 million quid in the pot to keep us afloat don't you think we're in financial difficulty already?