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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: redrover10 on June 11, 2013, 10:41:52 am
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Signed on a 2 year deal will wear number 12 shirt
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Where have you got that from?
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What some 1 said at ground carnt see it mesen tho
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Rhubarb!
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Why not number 1?
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If Ipswich can't match his wage demands we sure as shit can't.
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Sullivan number 1
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Be great if its true but not holding my breath
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Yes he would be a great signing if true, is he better than woods though.
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My cat is better than Woods. And I haven't got a cat.
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Lol, I wondered how long it would take to get a response to my post, it was a wind up by the way , woods was shite.
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Lol, I wondered how long it would take to get a response to my post, it was a wind up by the way , woods was shite.
No, he wasn't. He wasn't great, and wasn't perhaps up to championship standard, but "shite", I don't think so.
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That shite he has a League One champions medal which is more than can be said for anyone commenting on his ability in here
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Carlton Palmer got an England call up. Doesn't mean he was any good.
Woods would make a decent League Two keeper. His performances back that up.
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You don't make 42 league appearances for the champions if you aren't good enough at that level.
Fair enough, he didn't flourish in the Championship and it wasn't surprising to see him released, but to say that he would only make a decent League Two keeper doesn't stack up with his career to date.
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You don't make 42 league appearances for the champions if you aren't good enough at that level.
Fair enough, he didn't flourish in the Championship and it wasn't surprising to see him released, but to say that he would only make a decent League Two keeper doesn't stack up with his career to date.
He made 42 appearances because we had little other option. His game was error prone, and performed the vast majority of games with little or no confidence. It's a blessing we had a strong defense last season.
I'll be interested to see what level he ends up playing at next season.
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Sorry to all you woods lovers, but I still think he was shite.
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You don't make 42 league appearances for the champions if you aren't good enough at that level.
Fair enough, he didn't flourish in the Championship and it wasn't surprising to see him released, but to say that he would only make a decent League Two keeper doesn't stack up with his career to date.
Rob Jones and the defence was the defensive reason for our title. Not Woods.
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I'm no Woods lover, but he was a part of a very effective defence. Yes he made a few mistakes, and that's possibly why he's been released.
There's a big difference between being not quite good enough (for the championship) and "shite" If the management team thought he was "shite" - and believe me they know football a lot more than you or I - then Maxted or Sullivan (or another loanee) would have played 40-odd matches for us last season. Grow up.
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It is easy to criticise goalies because they are the last line of defence
But outfield players never get the same stick no matter how many errors they make which blow goal scoring opportunities or lead to goals being conceded
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For what it's worth I think Woods is a decent L1 keeper. Now he'll end up somewhere else, maybe a smaller L1 side like Stevenage, I can see his career taking off.
Think about it, when you get a player from a bigger club it creates a buzz and the fans take to them. It'll give him confidence to have a crowd that supports him, rather than is constantly on his back.
Give it a couple of seasons and I reckon we'll be adding Woods to Bryon Webster and James Baxendale as players that flourished when they moved away from us.
That said, I can't ever see him doing better than top L1/Bottom Championship.
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Is there actually any truth in this?
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This thread has been hijacked somewhat, but in my opinion Woods will never make a championship quality keeper. He has had two seasons in goal on a pretty much regular basis, firstly in the relegated side, then the championship season. Both seasons were fairly contrasting but Woods remained more or less the same. Whether you like it or not a keeper needs to instil confidence in his defence, and he just doesn't do that. Granted players make mistakes, especially the younger ones. But last year there were too many gifted goals, nearly moments and uncertancy whether to come off his line or stay put.
I don't think the defence were confident in his ability and its a good job we had a RJ in there to put his head in where it hurts.
I would expect GW's level to be in a struggling league one side next year.
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Is there actually any truth in this?
Going back to the subject of Lee Camp, no there isn't.
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I remember people luvvin sam "he's a winner" hird in the championship but then look what the real football world thought of his abilitys - he went to chesterfield..... :blush:
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I remember people luvvin sam "he's a winner" hird in the championship but then look what the real football world thought of his abilitys - he went to chesterfield..... :blush:
He would've stayed with us had we had the money at the time.
They thought enough of him to offer him the captaincy to entice him there before the manager got sacked and he was dropped.
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Paul Crichton wasn't good enough for us and given a free and ended up playing most if not all rest of his career at a higher level than us .
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Sam Hird turned down Middlesbrough to go be captain at chesterfield, so clearly people in football thought he had something. Empty head.
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I would expect GW's level to be in a struggling league one side next year.
Someone like Bristol City for example?
http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/155105-gary-woods/
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I would expect GW's level to be in a struggling league one side next year.
Someone like Bristol City for example?
http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/155105-gary-woods/
Pretty much. They will be re-shuffling their deck following relegation, so I imagine will be looking for consolidation this year. Besides its only a trial, that doesn't mean he is getting a contract. He will find his level.
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Gary Woods was barely good enough for us this season at best. He is not good enough at all.
Lee Camp would be a great signing in my opinion.
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Camp has experience at this level, so could be as good as any of the other options, given Sullivan's age now.
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Woods is "a confidence player". Which is basically a euphemism for "shit", and all the positivity in the world won't make shit smell any better. I think I finally came to this realisation when people started praising Woods every time he caught a ball. When catching the bloody ball is such a rarity that when you do it it's seen as an improvement worthy of praise, you have to consider that he's just not good enough. We won the league despite him this year, and all credit has to go to the rest of the squad for offering so much protection. I've never seen a keeper in a Rovers jersey have it so easy for so long like Woods did this season.
Anyway, Camp would be amazing, but surely he's destined for better things than us. Coup of the season if we nabbed him but can't see it sadly. Hopefully that Fielding from Derby is more realistic.
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I will be extremely surprised if we sign Camp would expect his wage demands to be too much and I would expect him to sign for a top championship side.
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Macho, "confidence player" means he can play well, but not all the time. Not that he is "shit". The consensus seems to be that he isn't good enough, but that doesn't make him "shit".
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Have to agree with Macho , Never had been & never will be a good keeper
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He is shit. I genuinely think he is the worst professional footballer in the land. Certainly the worst goalkeeper.
As mucho pointed out, there was an audible sigh of relief on the rare occasion he successfully caught the ball. When that happens, you know you're in trouble.
Camp would be an amazing signing and we would think he was ten times better than he is, given what we're now used to.
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Woods won't be a league Pro by the time he's 25.
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Macho, "confidence player" means he can play well, but not all the time. Not that he is "shit". The consensus seems to be that he isn't good enough, but that doesn't make him "shit".
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My point was that "confidence player" is basically a meaningless catch-all term that people often use to defend shit players for some reason. Case in point, Gary Woods.
I don't really care anymore as he's not our player, and I'm all for being positive and getting behind the lads - never booed Woods at a match or anything - but you just have to draw a line at some point and Woods was way, way beyond that line. Says it all that year old Neil Sullivan, who had his first match back when the missing link were a nipper, coming into replace Woods was met with widespread relief.
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We're definitely not signing Lee Camp
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How dus tha know that marra :silly:
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I would expect GW's level to be in a struggling league one side next year.
Someone like Bristol City for example?
http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/155105-gary-woods/
Pretty much. They will be re-shuffling their deck following relegation, so I imagine will be looking for consolidation this year. Besides its only a trial, that doesn't mean he is getting a contract. He will find his level.
Find it interesting that Bristol City and judging by that thread a lot of their fans, are quite happy to be signing our sub-standard rejects especially when a few seasons ago that we were both looking at the same players (Kilkenney for example) we normally lost out and they were almost Ipswich-like in their arrogance that we were any sort of competition for them.
As for Woods, I won't miss him. He didn't command his area, struggled catching crosses and really, really struggled with long shots. Playing behind our defence this season will help him land another deal as the statistics say he played 40+ games and won a Championship medal. Anyone who saw some of his dreadful meek performances knows otherwise.
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I thought it was Martin Woods going for a trial at Bristol?
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I thought it was Martin Woods going for a trial at Bristol?
According to free press they are in for him as well same as Ipswich, I hope he gets himself fit and does well somewhere after all the bad luck he had here.
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IDM - the link I put up to the Bristol forum clearly states 'one of the keepers' we have on trial'
boro - their fans will certainly not be happy with a season of consolidation, they expect to be challenging for the top of the league and signing players who will be at that level
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Wilts- I would be suprised if they consider him in that category if that's their aim. I thought they were riddled with debt and were having to basically do the same as us, rebuilding and starting fresh.