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Title: Yorkiered
Post by: richtherover on December 05, 2015, 02:02:59 pm
Yorkie - re Kevin Keegan, he would be 3 years older than me so I can't claim to have known him at school but the dates would definitely be correct. I am sure that in his autobiography he states that he attended St. Peter's in Lord Street when he lived in Spring Gardens. Their main rivals football wise were Beechfield against whom they had  many a good scrap on Town Moor. This was definitely still the case when I played for St. Peter's a couple of years later. I know he later attended St. Francis Xavier in Balby and St. Peter's High in Cantley so I guess we'll have to track down a copy of the book to sort out the Lord St. mystery.
Cheers Rich. RTID.
P. S. I was also at Danum Grammar with John Ryan (honest!)
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Lytham Rover on December 05, 2015, 02:39:28 pm
Yorkie - re Kevin Keegan, he would be 3 years older than me so I can't claim to have known him at school but the dates would definitely be correct. I am sure that in his autobiography he states that he attended St. Peter's in Lord Street when he lived in Spring Gardens. Their main rivals football wise were Beechfield against whom they had  many a good scrap on Town Moor. This was definitely still the case when I played for St. Peter's a couple of years later. I know he later attended St. Francis Xavier in Balby and St. Peter's High in Cantley so I guess we'll have to track down a copy of the book to sort out the Lord St. mystery.
Cheers Rich. RTID.
P. S. I was also at Danum Grammar with John Ryan (honest!)

It was Waverley in balby
And John Ryan went to Doncaster grammar school about 5 years in front of me
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Alickismyhero on December 05, 2015, 02:46:38 pm
Bally was at school with kk. so he should know.

KK Was born in 1950 the same year as myself and Bally

KK was at St Peters, Cantley when I played against him.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Yorkiered on December 05, 2015, 02:52:19 pm
Bally was at school with kk. so he should know.

KK Was born in 1950 the same year as myself and Bally

KK was at St Peters, Cantley when I played against him.

KK was born in 1951.
He definitely didn't go to St Peters in Lord Street and he certainly didn't go to Waverley.
St Francis Saviour is the infants/juniors he attended.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Bentley Bullet on December 05, 2015, 03:54:05 pm
I also, like Keegan, went to St Francis Xavier junior Catholic school on Balby bridge, and then likewise to St Peter's in Cantley.

Keegan left both school as I started them, due to hin being about 4/5 years older.

I wonder how many 'Red Coats' there are on this forum?
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Yorkiered on December 05, 2015, 03:56:01 pm
or LF's lol
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Alickismyhero on December 05, 2015, 04:03:53 pm
Yes I will give way on that I was working on the fact we were in the same year at school. We were thrashed in that game which might have been       something to do with St Peters having 5 Donny Boys players and we had none.

Another memory just passed through my head....KK got me in to the Directors Box at Chelsea when he was playing for Liverpool. I still recall the platform shoes and the unforgettable perm he had that day when he gave me the tickets. My father was the contact,KK always called him uncle George. KK gave my father his first Wembley cup final ticket promisedwhen KK was at Scunny, memories!
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Donnywolf on December 05, 2015, 07:21:02 pm
Bally was at school with kk. so he should know.

KK Was born in 1950 the same year as myself and Bally

KK was at St Peters, Cantley when I played against him.

KK was born in 1951.
He definitely didn't go to St Peters in Lord Street and he certainly didn't go to Waverley.
St Francis Saviour is the infants/juniors he attended.

KK was born on Valentines Day 1951 (Feb 51 was a good month & year for Footballing talent) although my prowess was exposed round about February 1962 !
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Bentley Bullet on December 05, 2015, 08:07:34 pm
I was a very good player as a youngster. I was told often that I was destined for a Rovers and England career. Then disaster struck. My elder brother kicked me on my knee and I was never the same player after.

Terrible thing for a six year old to take in.   :(
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: bally1950 on December 05, 2015, 09:28:01 pm
I am a red coat.... Stainforth Convent 1956 to 61 then St Peters until 1966 (July)
Keegan was in the year below me and I played against him in the house competitions, we won 3 - 1 and I scored from half way line. All the practice of kicking at the posts in rugby paid off. Jez Hemingway was in goal and it was St peters House (me) against St Josephs (Keegan) .

You could not get away with anything with the red coat on... Local battle as we all know was Wilby Carr ggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Bentley Bullet on December 05, 2015, 09:48:08 pm
I was in St Paul's (Yellows). We had 7 players in our house that played for the school team, so we had enough talent to take it easy.....Guess what?  We didn't win a game and came bottom!

A life lesson learnt!
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: bally1950 on December 05, 2015, 09:55:42 pm
St Paul's House
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: bally1950 on December 05, 2015, 09:58:11 pm
St Peter's House (sorry for above blunder) won the mini league at both soccer and rugby (League) I might add that year. Like St Paul's our house rugby team had 2/3 of school team. We just had to win or Mr Peterson who have branded us. U.S. and not the country
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Yorkiered on December 06, 2015, 09:32:29 am
I am a red coat.... Stainforth Convent 1956 to 61 then St Peters until 1966 (July)
Keegan was in the year below me and I played against him in the house competitions, we won 3 - 1 and I scored from half way line. All the practice of kicking at the posts in rugby paid off. Jez Hemingway was in goal and it was St peters House (me) against St Josephs (Keegan) .

You could not get away with anything with the red coat on... Local battle as we all know was Wilby Carr ggggggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

That takes me back Mick. I was with Jez Hemmingway in the same class at St Peters in Lord Street. Then we went our separate ways. He went to Cantley and I went to Sheffield (Not that it did me any good)
He had a few hundred yards walk and I had to get two buses probably leaving an hour before he had to!!
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: bally1950 on December 06, 2015, 08:47:18 pm
Yeah. An all round nice lad was Jez. Never saw or heard of him since. I speak to Martin Lanaghan just about every day, I believe he was in St Paul's and played that year in the house comps, he never lets me forget he played in the rugby comp as well on the wing.. He played against me and then never again, he said I had an influence on him..... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: PDX_Rover on December 06, 2015, 09:06:33 pm
I had KK's text book at St. Pete's. Honest.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Jimmydee on December 06, 2015, 09:17:53 pm
Hi BB, I must have been in the same year as you at St. Peter's, I left in 1975, K.K. Left school as I had started in 1970.
I can remember our priest mentioning that K.K was opening the summer garden party and he had signed for Liverpool United.
I had laughed out loud in the church when he said that.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Bentley Bullet on December 06, 2015, 09:33:10 pm
Hi Jimmy. I think KK left before 1970, otherwise he'd have been 19 when he left. I left in 1971, aged 16.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Jimmydee on December 06, 2015, 09:42:26 pm
You are right BB, my elder sister joined St.Peters when KK was still there and she is now 60 years young, I'm 57
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: BigH on December 06, 2015, 09:47:03 pm
Hi BB, I must have been in the same year as you at St. Peter's, I left in 1975, K.K. Left school as I had started in 1970.
I can remember our priest mentioning that K.K was opening the summer garden party and he had signed for Liverpool United.
I had laughed out loud in the church when he said that.
Do you remember the school getting the afternoon/day? off when Rovers played Liverpool in the cup replay in Jan'74 on account of an 'esteemed former pupil' being in town?
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Jimmydee on December 06, 2015, 09:56:46 pm
We were allowed to the have time off to go to the game provided that we were in our school uniform, the 'twaggers' were spotted out of uniform in their casual clothes and were disciplined the next day.
I was a good boy on the day, I can't remember if we got in for free on the day because of the St.Peters connection.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Donnywolf on December 07, 2015, 06:52:37 am
OH I am so gutted ...

... being just 3 days younger than KK I used to say to people as a joke " that I had been born in the next Bed to KK - and that my Mother had brought the wrong Baby home" and then I used to say "and do you know she never once disagreed with me" . Then in his Book he opens by saying he was born at Home in (an address .... in Armthorpe) so that killed that "fib! !

However my REAL claim to fame - I thought - was that when I played Right Half for Stainforth at Armthorpe in 1962 where we drew 3-3 that KK would have been in their Team (probably scoring three) even though he might not have remembered the defence splitting pass that produced the goal of the Game !!!

Now I am gutted cos there may have been a good reason he did not remember something as special as that - he may not even have seen it !  :( :( :(
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Wild Rover on December 07, 2015, 08:33:24 am
OH I am so gutted ...

... being just 3 days younger than KK I used to say to people as a joke " that I had been born in the next Bed to KK - and that my Mother had brought the wrong Baby home" and then I used to say "and do you know she never once disagreed with me" . Then in his Book he opens by saying he was born at Home in (an address .... in Armthorpe) so that killed that "fib! !

However my REAL claim to fame - I thought - was that when I played Right Half for Stainforth at Armthorpe in 1962 where we drew 3-3 that KK would have been in their Team (probably scoring three) even though he might not have remembered the defence splitting pass that produced the goal of the Game !!!

Now I am gutted cos there may have been a good reason he did not remember something as special as that - he may not even have seen it !  :( :( :(

Well we must have crossed paths as I too played for Stainforth. Maybe 64 onward ( late starter ). Gary Nesbitt in same side.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Alickismyhero on December 07, 2015, 08:50:02 am
OH I am so gutted ...

... being just 3 days younger than KK I used to say to people as a joke " that I had been born in the next Bed to KK - and that my Mother had brought the wrong Baby home" and then I used to say "and do you know she never once disagreed with me" . Then in his Book he opens by saying he was born at Home in (an address .... in Armthorpe) so that killed that "fib! !

However my REAL claim to fame - I thought - was that when I played Right Half for Stainforth at Armthorpe in 1962 where we drew 3-3 that KK would have been in their Team (probably scoring three) even though he might not have remembered the defence splitting pass that produced the goal of the Game !!!

Now I am gutted cos there may have been a good reason he did not remember something as special as that - he may not even have seen it !  :( :( :(

Well we must have crossed paths as I too played for Stainforth. Maybe 64 onward ( late starter ). Gary Nesbitt in same side.

I too was in that school side! I remember John Bytheway, Gary Nesbitt, Ghasper Grant, Russell Yates, Billy Lockwod, Graham Chambers, George Head. It was not a bad team having reached two area finals but not good enough to beat Hatfield who beat us in both finals. One final was due to be played at Belle View but was cancelled at the last minute!!! The only consolation  was that I got my runners up medal from Alick(the king)Jeffrey. Now that's worth remembering.

Terry Rothwell
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Wild Rover on December 07, 2015, 09:14:23 am
Was Brian Turner in that side too, or had he finished school by that time. Some player he was.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: bally1950 on December 07, 2015, 10:16:18 am
I think Keith was about same age, I played for Warrenne YC against Stainy Y.C and gave JT's (Woolfie's mate ) called Ron Whitton a right hoofing. and we won, thankfully none of the names played, I believe they played for The Old Club. Chabber sadly died earlier this year but had the sense to love in Dunscroft and did not stay on the "Dark Side"  George too married Glynis from The Crescent and lives over here. I see him regularly at Rovers and I see him around, was talking to him last week. He stopped reffing he says because his knees give up.
Nothing to do with age ??????
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Donnywolf on December 07, 2015, 10:44:00 am
I once played for a Team (Stainy Youth Club or Thorne - not sure which) and we lost 22-0 at the back of Hatfield High School

Worse I was Centre Forward and myself and another player you will know MB - same initials as you - rounded their Goalie and with the ball just needing knocking in I wheeled away in celebration. Unfortunately so did the other MB and the ball rolled wide.

I cant remember if that goal might have brought us back into it at 11-1 or 16-1 but you just NEVER know.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Alickismyhero on December 07, 2015, 11:12:20 am
Was Brian Turner in that side too, or had he finished school by that time. Some player he was.

The tall Brian Turner lived just down the backs to me. He actually played for Donny Boys and on the Belle View turf as I recall. He was at least 1 year ahead of me at school. I don't think I actually played a game with him but I am not sure!
I don't get back to Stainy but I was talking to my cousin in Thorne at a funeral last year and Brian's name popped up in conversation apparently he got married recently to an old neighbour of mine.
Were you in the same team as Brian?
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Wild Rover on December 07, 2015, 11:19:59 am
No. Brian 3 years older than me ( I think) I am same as Gary Nesbitt ( well 4 days older ), John Bytheway, Billy Liddle, Dave Roebuck, Duncan Pickles, Peter Furr, Gary Carling etc.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Alickismyhero on December 07, 2015, 12:18:55 pm
No. Brian 3 years older than me ( I think) I am same as Gary Nesbitt ( well 4 days older ), John Bytheway, Billy Liddle, Dave Roebuck, Duncan Pickles, Peter Furr, Gary Carling etc.

Yes I know them all with the exception of Garry Carling. I was in the year above. Duncan's brother, Howard,was in my year. Duncan was a very strong defender but lacked the finer skills in the game. I do recall that Duncan's brother in law was on Wednesday's books at the time.

Did we actually play in the same team? I was a regular in the 64/65 team. I didn't get on with Smithy the sports master and as a result I never played for the school team in 61/62/63. But The Head, Mr.Alison, did send me for trials at Donny in my last year but after six trial games I got the "Sorry son" Donny got that decision right. On reflection it worked out really well for me in the end as I really enjoyed my career working in London.

Didn't Nesbitt's boys play for Donny Boys?
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Wild Rover on December 07, 2015, 12:39:39 pm
Gary Carling played in goal. I remember your name, but don't remember playing in same team, I was a late starter so 65 - 66 would be my time. Maybe at Interhouse matches ( Ripon, Durham and York ) we played against each other. Certainly Gary,s Lad Micky ( junior ) played for DRFC. not sure about other one.

I actually Replaced Duncan at LB.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: bally1950 on December 07, 2015, 01:53:11 pm
Gary Carling lives in Woodhouse and has been Mayor of Hatfield Town Council... Often I see him with strange short hair, never been the same man since he had his hair cut he he
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Alickismyhero on December 07, 2015, 02:01:38 pm
Gary Carling played in goal. I remember your name, but don't remember playing in same team, I was a late starter so 65 - 66 would be my time. Maybe at Interhouse matches ( Ripon, Durham and York ) we played against each other. Certainly Gary,s Lad Micky ( junior ) played for DRFC. not sure about other one.

I actually Replaced Duncan at LB.

Looking back we would have been in the same team but I was born on the 31st August and I was a day too old to play in 66. We were the first form to stay on to the fifth form. Mr Alison requested permission for me to play in the senior team but the powers that be said, no.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Wild Rover on December 07, 2015, 02:42:14 pm
Mind is playing up a bit with me. Maybe I was in second 5th form, though I thought till now I was in first lot. Cant remember who was actually in my lot, except Gary Nesbitt, John Bytheway, Geoff Sill, Kenny shaw, Carole Coy, Linda beckett ( that's about 50% of class ). I must have a photo somewhere.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Alickismyhero on December 07, 2015, 10:08:16 pm
Mind is playing up a bit with me. Maybe I was in second 5th form, though I thought till now I was in first lot. Cant remember who was actually in my lot, except Gary Nesbitt, John Bytheway, Geoff Sill, Kenny shaw, Carole Coy, Linda beckett ( that's about 50% of class ). I must have a photo somewhere.

Yes, you were the second lot in the fifth year.

 Kenny Shaw was a mate of mine but he came to very sad end in 68ish,thats life or the lack of it.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: BobG on December 07, 2015, 11:05:24 pm
It's quite frightening actually just how many 'sad ends' afflict our school mates. Two of mine were killed  by the time we were 22. Lewis Evans and John Heeley if anyone recognises the names? John was a pretty good footballer. I reckon a lot on here will have known his Dad: Denis Heeley, ex Headmaster of Wilby Carr.

BobG
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Wild Rover on December 08, 2015, 08:12:05 am
Mind is playing up a bit with me. Maybe I was in second 5th form, though I thought till now I was in first lot. Cant remember who was actually in my lot, except Gary Nesbitt, John Bytheway, Geoff Sill, Kenny shaw, Carole Coy, Linda beckett ( that's about 50% of class ). I must have a photo somewhere.

Yes, you were the second lot in the fifth year.

 Kenny Shaw was a mate of mine but he came to very sad end in 68ish,thats life or the lack of it.

Kenny a good 100mts man. I think Geoff Sill also "left early", on railway outside glassmaker.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: Alickismyhero on December 08, 2015, 10:43:28 am
Kenny, like his cousin George Shaw, were very verry fast over 100yrds, made me look like an action replay!

Nice to reminisce WR with you but we seem to have taken it off topic. Perhaps we could PM with an update with "were are they now ?" 
I left in 1966 and only visit Thorne now, to my brothers, so I have lost all contact with my old school mates.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: BiargeBob on December 11, 2015, 12:36:48 pm
 Yorkiered, re Kevin Keegan, my mother always tells the story of his dad taking him for a walk in the pram, calling at the Taddy for a pint or two & then going home with wee Kev still in the pram outside the Taddy.
Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: neil grainger on December 11, 2015, 01:10:18 pm
Do you remember the school getting the afternoon/day? off when Rovers played Liverpool in the cup replay in Jan'74 on account of an 'esteemed former pupil' being in town?

You were lucky! At Danum Grammar I had to sneak out past the guard dogs and searchlights!

Title: Re: Yorkiered
Post by: BobG on December 11, 2015, 11:53:11 pm
Lol!! Were you at Danum when that game was played Neil? I was there too. If it was Jan 1974 I was in the Upper 6th. where were you?

I got out too. They werene't keen on letting folk go were they?! But I'd been to the first match at Anfield. I wasn't going to miss the replay :)

BobG