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Title: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 09:40:05 pm
Are we happy yet??
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: German Rover on December 29, 2017, 09:44:33 pm
9 places to go till we can rest! Good to be going on with.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Guernsey Exile on December 29, 2017, 09:45:25 pm
That result is massive in my eyes. Beat Peterborough and we are safe! Go to 5 wins and we can start to dream!
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: roversdude on December 29, 2017, 10:12:45 pm
I guess our own little ELF will still be saying that DF is fooling us
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Chris Black come back on December 29, 2017, 10:17:56 pm
Are we happy yet??

Very odd passive aggressive post just minutes after FT.

Hope you are ok comrade. We are all rooting for you.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: mushRTID on December 29, 2017, 10:22:47 pm
WUM
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 10:25:46 pm
Are we happy yet??

Very odd passive aggressive post just minutes after FT.

Hope you are ok comrade. We are all rooting for you.

Ha ha

Where have all the ppg game stats gone??
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dknward2 on December 29, 2017, 10:27:11 pm
Wigan drop points again catching them slowly
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Donnybax on December 29, 2017, 10:34:28 pm
I just don’t understand why some people would try to create an argument after a 2-0 home win. Just enjoy it. Yes we are 10th which is a great achievement from where we were. But don’t try to rub peoples noses in it.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: RedJ on December 29, 2017, 10:37:15 pm
Cos he's a smug bas**rd and he's not happy unless he can go ner ner you were wrong, evidently.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 10:37:55 pm
I just don’t understand why some people would try to create an argument after a 2-0 home win. Just enjoy it. Yes we are 10th which is a great achievement from where we were. But don’t try to rub peoples noses in it.

If we'd lost, lots of people absent this evening would be going wild.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 10:38:58 pm
Cos he's a smug bas**rd and he's not happy unless he can go ner ner you were wrong, evidently.

I'm happy that all you negative lot now have very little to moan about..

Although I'm sure you'll try your best
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: del boy on December 29, 2017, 10:39:22 pm
I just don’t understand why some people would try to create an argument after a 2-0 home win. Just enjoy it. Yes we are 10th which is a great achievement from where we were. But don’t try to rub peoples noses in it.

If we'd lost, lots of people absent this evening would be going wild.

But we didn't lose and your posting on every subject looking for an argument
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: no eyed deer on December 29, 2017, 10:39:46 pm
No, he's as positive as Mad Mick was negative. Both wind you up
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2017, 10:40:05 pm
Pathetic OP.
Probably secretly pulling one off.

Of course we are all happy, why wouldn’t we be?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Donnybax on December 29, 2017, 10:40:24 pm
I just don’t understand why some people would try to create an argument after a 2-0 home win. Just enjoy it. Yes we are 10th which is a great achievement from where we were. But don’t try to rub peoples noses in it.

If we'd lost, lots of people absent this evening would be going wild.

but we didn’t lose. Give it a rest trying to wind people up and let us enjoy the fact we’ve won 3 in a row and risen to 10th.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 10:40:58 pm
I just don’t understand why some people would try to create an argument after a 2-0 home win. Just enjoy it. Yes we are 10th which is a great achievement from where we were. But don’t try to rub peoples noses in it.

If we'd lost, lots of people absent this evening would be going wild.

But we didn't lose and your posting on every subject looking for an argument

Nope, I'm just waiting for the excuse as to why we won
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2017, 10:41:39 pm
You might have a long wait them.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 10:41:50 pm
I just don’t understand why some people would try to create an argument after a 2-0 home win. Just enjoy it. Yes we are 10th which is a great achievement from where we were. But don’t try to rub peoples noses in it.

If we'd lost, lots of people absent this evening would be going wild.

but we didn’t lose. Give it a rest trying to wind people up and let us enjoy the fact we’ve won 3 in a row and risen to 10th.

I'm enjoying it, that's obvious

But there's many on here who aren't
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 10:42:15 pm
You might have a long wait them.

It'll come
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2017, 10:42:39 pm
I just don’t understand why some people would try to create an argument after a 2-0 home win. Just enjoy it. Yes we are 10th which is a great achievement from where we were. But don’t try to rub peoples noses in it.

If we'd lost, lots of people absent this evening would be going wild.

but we didn’t lose. Give it a rest trying to wind people up and let us enjoy the fact we’ve won 3 in a row and risen to 10th.

I'm enjoying it, that's obvious

But there's many on here who aren't






Sad, really sad.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Move DRFC on December 29, 2017, 10:43:48 pm
I just don’t understand why some people would try to create an argument after a 2-0 home win. Just enjoy it. Yes we are 10th which is a great achievement from where we were. But don’t try to rub peoples noses in it.

If we'd lost, lots of people absent this evening would be going wild.

but we didn’t lose. Give it a rest trying to wind people up and let us enjoy the fact we’ve won 3 in a row and risen to 10th.

I'm enjoying it, that's obvious

But there's many on here who aren't

Have a beer and get off the internet bro.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 10:44:22 pm
I just don’t understand why some people would try to create an argument after a 2-0 home win. Just enjoy it. Yes we are 10th which is a great achievement from where we were. But don’t try to rub peoples noses in it.

If we'd lost, lots of people absent this evening would be going wild.

but we didn’t lose. Give it a rest trying to wind people up and let us enjoy the fact we’ve won 3 in a row and risen to 10th.

I'm enjoying it, that's obvious

But there's many on here who aren't






Sad, really sad.

Certainly is.
Keep thinking it'll come
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Donnybax on December 29, 2017, 10:45:16 pm
I just don’t understand why some people would try to create an argument after a 2-0 home win. Just enjoy it. Yes we are 10th which is a great achievement from where we were. But don’t try to rub peoples noses in it.

If we'd lost, lots of people absent this evening would be going wild.

but we didn’t lose. Give it a rest trying to wind people up and let us enjoy the fact we’ve won 3 in a row and risen to 10th.

I'm enjoying it, that's obvious

But there's many on here who aren't
this post, and infact the entire thread is pathetic. I admire how you always defend the current manager and performances it’s admirable. But then you try and provoke people after 3 solid wins and lose all credibility for me
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 10:48:26 pm
What do you think would happen on here after 3 consecutive defeats??
Not sure there's anything wrong in rubbing the negative bunches nose in it
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Campsall rover on December 29, 2017, 10:51:00 pm
Yes i am very happy, 3 straight wins and 3 clean sheets.
I thought our second half performance was very negative.
Just seemed happy to contain Rochdale instead of going for the throat and trying to get that third killer goal as we did against Northampton.
We got away with it tonight through some poor finishing by Rochdale and some great goalkeeping by Lawlor.
They are a decent footballing side and look on tonight’s showing to be in a false position in the league. But I suppose the league table doesn’t lie after 24/25 games.
We need to be on our mettle for the cup game that’s for sure.
Only 5 points off Peterborough in 6th place as I write this and playing them on Monday.
I did say December would be a defining month and it has proved we can compete comfortably in this league. 2 quality additions in the Jan window and we can definitely be a play off contender by Late March early April.
Onwards and upwards.  :woohoo:
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: RedJ on December 29, 2017, 10:57:01 pm
What do you think would happen on here after 3 consecutive defeats??
Not sure there's anything wrong in rubbing the negative bunches nose in it

You seem to be happier with a win because it gives you a chance to do that than because the team has won though. There's enjoying a win and there's being a cock about it because someone feels differently to you.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Campsall rover on December 29, 2017, 11:00:28 pm
I hope my previous thread will get everyone back to posting their thoughts on tonight and our resurgence up the league, in stead of this pathetic bickering going on some in of the previous posts on this thread.
Can we all celebrate that we are 10th in the league which after all is the title of the thread.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 11:01:40 pm
What do you think would happen on here after 3 consecutive defeats??
Not sure there's anything wrong in rubbing the negative bunches nose in it

You seem to be happier with a win because it gives you a chance to do that than because the team has won though. There's enjoying a win and there's being a cock about it because someone feels differently to you.

Not really,
I couldn't care less that I feel differently than yourself and others.
But if we'd lost three on trot people would be having a go at me, so why not call the negative bunch out after 3 wins on the trot?
There's obviously going to be a response like this because you and your pals are hoping Ferguson fails
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: RoversAlias on December 29, 2017, 11:02:15 pm
This thread is pathetic. The only person not enjoying our win here is you Dickos, because you're too busy points-scoring on other posters. What's the need?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2017, 11:04:36 pm
Hallelujah.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: RedJ on December 29, 2017, 11:05:06 pm
What do you think would happen on here after 3 consecutive defeats??
Not sure there's anything wrong in rubbing the negative bunches nose in it

You seem to be happier with a win because it gives you a chance to do that than because the team has won though. There's enjoying a win and there's being a cock about it because someone feels differently to you.

Not really,
I couldn't care less that I feel differently than yourself and others.
But if we'd lost three on trot people would be having a go at me, so why not call the negative bunch out after 3 wins on the trot?
There's obviously going to be a response like this because you and your pals are hoping Ferguson fails

Now that is pathetic. Hope he fails do I? where have I ever said that? go on, show me.

I always want the team, including the manager, to do well. Just because I don't think they are going to doesn't mean I don't want them to. Now get your head out your arse and just be happy they won. f**king hell.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 11:08:10 pm
Point scoring??
If people can go on and on when we lose why can't I when we win??

Where are esdaile and donnyjim?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: idler on December 29, 2017, 11:12:42 pm
Point scoring??
If people can go on and on when we lose why can't I when we win??

Where are esdaile and donnyjim?
Why don't you pm them and ask?
Why subject everybody on the forum to your paranoia?
The real pessimists can be counted on the fingers one hand.
You seem tonight like the Americans seeing reds under the bed in the 1950s.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: RoversAlias on December 29, 2017, 11:14:35 pm
Yes, you are definitely point-scoring. Or trying to at least.

If these posters annoyed you with previous posts, the thing to do now is ignore it and do what you claim to want us all to do: be positive about our win tonight and enjoy it with the other fans posting on the board. Instead of being able to just talk about the game and how pleased I am with the performance, I'm instead reading through 3, 4 or 5 different threads that are all about you and your insistence in proving how right you are to Hound, RedJ and CB.

It's sad, it's tedious to read and does EXACTLY what you keep complaining about other's doing: detracting from the team's win by going on and on about unnecessary things.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: NickDRFC on December 29, 2017, 11:18:04 pm
Dickos, I can sum you up in two words - sad act. Get a life and enjoy the form we are in.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 29, 2017, 11:21:38 pm
Enjoy the results. Can we make it 4 on the bounce at Peterborough? Unlikely, but you just never know in football.

Our team seems to gamble in doing just enough. I still think there's more in the tank.

The first half tonight gave us encouragement. The second half gave us plenty of doubts. I haven't got a clue which way we're going to go from here!
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 11:22:38 pm
Yes, you are definitely point-scoring. Or trying to at least.

If these posters annoyed you with previous posts, the thing to do now is ignore it and do what you claim to want us all to do: be positive about our win tonight and enjoy it with the other fans posting on the board. Instead of being able to just talk about the game and how pleased I am with the performance, I'm instead reading through 3, 4 or 5 different threads that are all about you and your insistence in proving how right you are to Hound, RedJ and CB.

It's sad, it's tedious to read and does EXACTLY what you keep complaining about other's doing: detracting from the team's win by going on and on about unnecessary things.

Not once on here have I said look I'm right,

If we lose on Monday they will all be back saying Fergie hasn't a clue
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: RedJ on December 29, 2017, 11:26:16 pm
Will we though? will we really? or are you just trying to fan the flames on this completely unnecessary thread?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2017, 11:26:48 pm
Enjoy the results. Can we make it 4 on the bounce at Peterborough? Unlikely, but you just never know in football.

Our team seems to gamble in doing just enough. I still think there's more in the tank.

The first half tonight gave us encouragement. The second half gave us plenty of doubts. I haven't got a clue which way we're going to go from here!






Negative post ?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 11:32:42 pm
Will we though? will we really? or are you just trying to fan the flames on this completely unnecessary thread?

Of course you will

Let's wait and see
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: RedJ on December 29, 2017, 11:36:52 pm
Hahaha, grow up.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2017, 11:38:42 pm
Hahaha, grow up.





Dickos is going to be Sooooooooo disappointed if we win because he won’t have anyone to argue with.
How ironic will that be.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: GazLaz on December 29, 2017, 11:39:37 pm
He’s just highlighting how pathetic some of our fans were earlier in the season.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: pib on December 29, 2017, 11:40:14 pm
Delighted with our recent turnaround.  We are all Rovers so why shouldn't we be?

Equally I have concerns and question marks when our form isn't so good... because I am a Rovers fan who wants the team to succeed so why wouldn't I try to think and analyse how we are getting on.

Some very odd characters about trying to cause rifts when we should be enjoying the winning feeling and our current upward surge in form.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Campsall rover on December 29, 2017, 11:42:11 pm
Will you please pack it in. This pathetic bickering and point scoring is getting more than tiresome.
It is childish in the extreme and I am quite sure nearly all of us want this forum to be used for what it is intended for, which is constructive opinions on all that is DRFC.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: esdailles left foot on December 29, 2017, 11:43:37 pm
“ me, me it’s all about me. Should be Dickos chat this “
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2017, 11:44:46 pm
Will you please pack it in. This pathetic bickering and point scoring is getting more than tiresome.
It is childish in the extreme and I am quite sure nearly all of us want this forum to be used for what it is intended for, which is constructive opinions on all that is DRFC.





Which is what people generally do but if anyone dare question why we lost etc it is viewed by some posters as negative.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Alan Southstand on December 29, 2017, 11:46:18 pm
3 wins and no goals against is triumphant in my eyes, but.........what a shocker of a second half! If that is game management, then you can shove it right up where the sun don't shine.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: IDM on December 29, 2017, 11:52:57 pm
I'm not so sure we sat back as such, more that Rochdale upped their game..  We've been in the wrong half of the table for most of the season, so every win is welcome.

Peterborough will be a tough ask, but you never know what is going to happen.  However winning breeds confidence..
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 11:58:48 pm
Hahaha, grow up.

Let's Wait and see
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 11:59:32 pm
Hahaha, grow up.





Dickos is going to be Sooooooooo disappointed if we win because he won’t have anyone to argue with.
How ironic will that be.

Always be people available giving excuses why we win
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2017, 12:00:02 am
“ me, me it’s all about me. Should be Dickos chat this “

Here she is!!
Still want him sacked?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2017, 12:00:25 am
He’s just highlighting how pathetic some of our fans were earlier in the season.

Correct Gaz
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: IDM on December 30, 2017, 12:03:23 am
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Title: Re: 10th
Post by: esdailles left foot on December 30, 2017, 12:27:54 am
Good result today against a terrible side. Do I still want Ferguson out... yes. But it can wait for another day. Up the rovers 
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Bessie Red on December 30, 2017, 01:45:57 am
They were not a terrible side. They were one of the better teams to have visited the Keepmoat this season. Now  Northampton were a terrible side.!!
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 30, 2017, 01:54:49 am
Walsall were a terrible side, yet the walked away from the Keepmoat with a 3-0 win.

Title: Re: 10th
Post by: pib on December 30, 2017, 02:06:52 am
Rochdale aren't a bad side. You could tell by watching them tonight.

They've only lost as many as us this season but they've drawn 10 games which has killed them. The most draws in the division.

As we saw tonight they can compete and Hill gets them playing football, they just don't have the quality to put their chances away and nick games.

Makes sense really when you have an educated guess at budgets. They have to make do with players like Calvin Andrew up front because they are one of those clubs in the Manchester area that struggles for money with 3k home gates.

They were far better than Northampton.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Bessie Red on December 30, 2017, 02:10:40 am
Walsall were a terrible side, yet the walked away from the Keepmoat with a 3-0 win.


Yeah your right but we were worse that day!!
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: adamtherover on December 30, 2017, 08:51:42 am
Walsall were a terrible side, yet the walked away from the Keepmoat with a 3-0 win.


Yeah your right but we were worse that day!!
No we wernt, we just gifted them 3 goals.  Game over..
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Jonathan on December 30, 2017, 09:33:36 am
In fairness, the opening poster has had to put up with stick on here all season for pointing out that the walls weren’t falling in around us. So I think a little gloating about the fact that we’re doing okay is more than reasonable, there has been plenty of revelling in poor form.

It all comes in swings and roundabouts. We are perennially one or two games from a crisis. We’ll lose a few again at some point and normal service will be resumed.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: GazLaz on December 30, 2017, 09:36:13 am
In fairness, the opening poster has had to put up with stick on here all season for pointing out that the walls weren’t falling in around us. So I think a little gloating about the fact that we’re doing okay is more than reasonable, there has been plenty of revelling in poor form.

It all comes in swings and roundabouts. We are perennially one or two games from a crisis. We’ll lose a few again at some point and normal service will be resumed.

This.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Bentley Bullet on December 30, 2017, 09:37:38 am
When Darren Ferguson publicly announces in post-match interviews that the team were poor, is he revelling in poor form?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: pib on December 30, 2017, 09:40:03 am
I think there's a difference between "pointing out the walls aren't falling in" and blind unwavering optimism.

Of course all posts are somewhere on a sliding scale, and some have been ridiculous... but is questioning some of the manager's decisions and expressing frustration at the team's capabilities not allowed?

 :clapping:
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Jonathan on December 30, 2017, 09:49:52 am
I think there's a difference between "pointing out the walls aren't falling in" and blind unwavering optimism.

Of course all posts are somewhere on a sliding scale, and some have been ridiculous... but is questioning some of the manager's decisions and expressing frustration at the team's capabilities not allowed?

 :clapping:

I’m not sure who the question is being asked to there. Equally I don’t think this kind of exchange would ever crop up if it was merely a case of expressing frustrations or questioning the manager’s decisions on occasion.

It’s very easy to forget what a toxic environment the likes of this forum (and even moreso Facebook / Twitter) become after a bad result or two. It all goes way way over the top. And if someone has the audacity to attempt to redress the balance, they are rounded upon as if they’re a deluded fool! Personally I think the opening poster could be forgiven for questioning who the fools actually are.

It’s simply a point of fact that some posters are particularly quiet because we’ve done okay lately. Are we really to believe that the Frosts wouldn’t have been on here if, for example, we’d just lost three without scoring?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Bentley Bullet on December 30, 2017, 09:55:25 am
.....And equally, would Dickos have started this thread in order to provoke them, had we lost?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Jonathan on December 30, 2017, 10:05:45 am
.....And equally, would Dickos have started this thread in order to provoke them, had we lost?

Probably not. He wouldn’t need to as there’d already be fifteen live and firing threads. But I’m sure (I think) we’d all prefer to see somebody gloating about the fact that we won! Even if we don’t like ‘gloating’ and it gets on our nerves a little, surely the means makes the end worthwhile.

It’s like the people that say “we won but I still want Fergie out.” Well for that to realistically happen, logically we would have to stop winning and go on a fairly terrible run, so why would anyone say they want that to be the case?!

On the contrary, if people are irritating others because they’re peddling an agenda that involves winning games and doing well, then long may it continue for me.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on December 30, 2017, 10:15:43 am
Go back a month or so to when this all started. The thing that baffled me was that it was clear from both performances and points gained that we were on a positive trajectory. And yet the complaints were getting worse. It does get tiresome reading the whinging and the totally disproportionate criticisms of individual players match after match. 
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: wilts rover on December 30, 2017, 10:30:17 am
When Darren Ferguson publicly announces in post-match interviews that the team were poor, is he revelling in poor form?

Only if he posts it on here with an expert anaylsis on why the defeat was all down to him and why he should be sacked?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: pib on December 30, 2017, 10:41:41 am
I think there's a difference between "pointing out the walls aren't falling in" and blind unwavering optimism.

Of course all posts are somewhere on a sliding scale, and some have been ridiculous... but is questioning some of the manager's decisions and expressing frustration at the team's capabilities not allowed?

 :clapping:

I’m not sure who the question is being asked to there. Equally I don’t think this kind of exchange would ever crop up if it was merely a case of expressing frustrations or questioning the manager’s decisions on occasion.

It’s very easy to forget what a toxic environment the likes of this forum (and even moreso Facebook / Twitter) become after a bad result or two. It all goes way way over the top. And if someone has the audacity to attempt to redress the balance, they are rounded upon as if they’re a deluded fool! Personally I think the opening poster could be forgiven for questioning who the fools actually are.

It’s simply a point of fact that some posters are particularly quiet because we’ve done okay lately. Are we really to believe that the Frosts wouldn’t have been on here if, for example, we’d just lost three without scoring?

Nobody in particular.  Don't really tend to post for a response, just generally throwing ideas out there.

I agree it can be toxic, but I don't think people who post a balanced view or just their honest opinions at that point get "rounded on" particularly.  I think it's just those who won't accept anyone else's point of view, and will vehemently and pedantically argue the toss with anyone who expresses an opinion that disagrees with their worldview that everything Donny Rovers do on the pitch is bloody amazing and that the manager is untouchable no matter what happens. (Or the opposite).

I can see both sides but I don't think dickos does himself any favours getting so wrapped up in what other people think all the time. He spends so much of his time fighting petty arguments and laying into other posters that he then feels the need to justify himself when we get some results that vaguely fit in with his perspective.

I think people would rather enjoy the wins we are getting than have people trying to antagonise.  Same goes for when we get beat - yes the same old "told you so" posters will surface and that is equally as annoying when most folk would rather just chat and debate honestly about how the team has played.

Unfortunately I think it's human nature that people are quicker to jump up and complain than they are to put themselves out there when things are great.  That's one of the reasons why I am sceptical about reviews on Amazon/TripAdvisor and the like - I think people are more likely to surface and put their view forward if they've had a bad experience than a good one. Folk just like to get their complaints off their chest.  It can be annoying but I think it's just a mentality thing generally.

FWIW I have put forward frustrations and concerns about the manager and the team in the past, but equally I try to balance things up and give credit where it's due, and have never once called for the Fergie's head.  I'm just as delighted as the next Rovers supporter that we seem to have turned a corner.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Bentley Bullet on December 30, 2017, 10:50:43 am
When Darren Ferguson publicly announces in post-match interviews that the team were poor, is he revelling in poor form?

Only if he posts it on here with an expert anaylsis on why the defeat was all down to him and why he should be sacked?

Eh?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: DonnyOsmond on December 30, 2017, 12:37:30 pm
Good result today against a terrible side. Do I still want Ferguson out... yes. But it can wait for another day. Up the rovers 

Why?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2017, 12:52:01 pm
I think there's a difference between "pointing out the walls aren't falling in" and blind unwavering optimism.

Of course all posts are somewhere on a sliding scale, and some have been ridiculous... but is questioning some of the manager's decisions and expressing frustration at the team's capabilities not allowed?

 :clapping:

I’m not sure who the question is being asked to there. Equally I don’t think this kind of exchange would ever crop up if it was merely a case of expressing frustrations or questioning the manager’s decisions on occasion.

It’s very easy to forget what a toxic environment the likes of this forum (and even moreso Facebook / Twitter) become after a bad result or two. It all goes way way over the top. And if someone has the audacity to attempt to redress the balance, they are rounded upon as if they’re a deluded fool! Personally I think the opening poster could be forgiven for questioning who the fools actually are.

It’s simply a point of fact that some posters are particularly quiet because we’ve done okay lately. Are we really to believe that the Frosts wouldn’t have been on here if, for example, we’d just lost three without scoring?

Nobody in particular.  Don't really tend to post for a response, just generally throwing ideas out there.

I agree it can be toxic, but I don't think people who post a balanced view or just their honest opinions at that point get "rounded on" particularly.  I think it's just those who won't accept anyone else's point of view, and will vehemently and pedantically argue the toss with anyone who expresses an opinion that disagrees with their worldview that everything Donny Rovers do on the pitch is bloody amazing and that the manager is untouchable no matter what happens. (Or the opposite).

I can see both sides but I don't think dickos does himself any favours getting so wrapped up in what other people think all the time. He spends so much of his time fighting petty arguments and laying into other posters that he then feels the need to justify himself when we get some results that vaguely fit in with his perspective.

I think people would rather enjoy the wins we are getting than have people trying to antagonise.  Same goes for when we get beat - yes the same old "told you so" posters will surface and that is equally as annoying when most folk would rather just chat and debate honestly about how the team has played.

Unfortunately I think it's human nature that people are quicker to jump up and complain than they are to put themselves out there when things are great.  That's one of the reasons why I am sceptical about reviews on Amazon/TripAdvisor and the like - I think people are more likely to surface and put their view forward if they've had a bad experience than a good one. Folk just like to get their complaints off their chest.  It can be annoying but I think it's just a mentality thing generally.

FWIW I have put forward frustrations and concerns about the manager and the team in the past, but equally I try to balance things up and give credit where it's due, and have never once called for the Fergie's head.  I'm just as delighted as the next Rovers supporter that we seem to have turned a corner.

I've been critical of a number of things this season, last night was the first post I've made like that. Whereas after a defeat the same people start posts every time saying Ferguson out or it's the worst performance they've ever seen.
It's also the same people who were the ones who jumped all over it last night,
I didn't mention any names but I could've put a lot of money on who the bites would come from
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: esdailles left foot on December 30, 2017, 02:55:18 pm
Dickos happy new year. up the rovers. ok ?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Campsall rover on December 30, 2017, 03:01:20 pm
Has peace & common sense broken out on here at last. Hallelujah. :clapping:
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: MachoMadness on December 30, 2017, 03:17:36 pm
Pathetic thread. Dickos, do you not realise the irony in the fact that, in constantly seeking to show how much better of a fan you are than everyone else, you're one of the most negative posters on the site? Why should you want to gloat over your fellow fans when we've won? Why is your first reaction to our best run of form in ages to have a pop at other fans? Baffling.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2017, 03:32:32 pm
Where have I ever attempted to suggest I'm a better fan?
Do you also post like this when the negative bunch come on here after every defeat saying they told you so?
No you don't.

As Jonathon pointed out earlier I've taken stick week in week out when the side was getting beat so what's wrong in giving it back.
Only last week I was called a cretin and a cnut, just for being positive.

Didn't see you commenting then
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Jonathan on December 30, 2017, 04:07:20 pm
I certainly don’t read everything on here, but I read a fair bit and consider myself generally familiar with the views Dickos puts forward. I know it can sometimes transcend into argument (an inevitability of sharing views on a forum) but essentially I see a supporter that doesn’t default to the view that we’re shit, that the manager needs sacking and that the top scorer needs flogging. And for that he seems to be labelled on here as some kind of delusional troll. It’s very strange.

We’re all entitled to our opinions and most of them on here come from a position of loving the club. But the consensus would appear to be that if you go against the grain of throwing a tantrum each time we have a setback then you must be some kind of fraud. As I said on another thread, is it really such an alien concept for a supporter of a club to want to see the best in it?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: pib on December 30, 2017, 04:31:03 pm
Where have I ever attempted to suggest I'm a better fan?
Do you also post like this when the negative bunch come on here after every defeat saying they told you so?
No you don't.

As Jonathon pointed out earlier I've taken stick week in week out when the side was getting beat so what's wrong in giving it back.
Only last week I was called a cretin and a cnut, just for being positive.

Didn't see you commenting then

You don't take stick because you have a positive outlook, it's more because your tone is to sneer and look down your nose at people who disagree with you, and also because you constantly nit-pick at people's posts which gets their back up against you.

Self-inflicted. It seems that plenty of people share your positivity but they don't get the same "stick" - what's that tell you?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: MachoMadness on December 30, 2017, 04:34:12 pm
Where have I ever attempted to suggest I'm a better fan?
Do you also post like this when the negative bunch come on here after every defeat saying they told you so?
No you don't.

As Jonathon pointed out earlier I've taken stick week in week out when the side was getting beat so what's wrong in giving it back.
Only last week I was called a cretin and a cnut, just for being positive.

Didn't see you commenting then

Do they say told you so though? A tiny minority of posters only seem to pop up after a defeat. Only one or two I can think of, easily ignored. You miss my point though dickos. My point is you aren't being positive at all. 90% of your posts recently aren't supporting the team, but just digging out other posters, calling them negative and condescending them when really all that's happening is people letting off steam after a frustrating defeat. You take this shit so personally.

If you're at the point where you're taking names of people who comment, or don't comment and when, you probably need to step away from the internet for a while. It isn't very positive.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2017, 04:40:07 pm
Where have I ever attempted to suggest I'm a better fan?
Do you also post like this when the negative bunch come on here after every defeat saying they told you so?
No you don't.

As Jonathon pointed out earlier I've taken stick week in week out when the side was getting beat so what's wrong in giving it back.
Only last week I was called a cretin and a cnut, just for being positive.

Didn't see you commenting then

You don't take stick because you have a positive outlook, it's more because your tone is to sneer and look down your nose at people who disagree with you, and also because you constantly nit-pick at people's posts which gets their back up against you.

Self-inflicted. It seems that plenty of people share your positivity but they don't get the same "stick" - what's that tell you?

Completely disagree, why am I looking down on people?
I get stick because when the negative nonsense gets posted most people ignore it, I should also. I agree.

Your post is all what I do, but if you actually read the posts it's me just giving a different view and then getting abuse.

If you read what Johnathan has put then this is exactly how I see it.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2017, 04:43:07 pm
Where have I ever attempted to suggest I'm a better fan?
Do you also post like this when the negative bunch come on here after every defeat saying they told you so?
No you don't.

As Jonathon pointed out earlier I've taken stick week in week out when the side was getting beat so what's wrong in giving it back.
Only last week I was called a cretin and a cnut, just for being positive.

Didn't see you commenting then

Do they say told you so though? A tiny minority of posters only seem to pop up after a defeat. Only one or two I can think of, easily ignored. You miss my point though dickos. My point is you aren't being positive at all. 90% of your posts recently aren't supporting the team, but just digging out other posters, calling them negative and condescending them when really all that's happening is people letting off steam after a frustrating defeat. You take this shit so personally.

If you're at the point where you're taking names of people who comment, or don't comment and when, you probably need to step away from the internet for a while. It isn't very positive.

This is nonsense, 90% of my posts aren't digging other people they're giving a different viewpoint. When we're losing there's not many saying anything positive and when I do I get stick.
Other than last night I hardly ever dig other people I just give a positive viewpoint rather than their negative one.
All that's happened now is we're winning and the negative chaps are saying I'm going round saying I told you so. But if you look I've never said that once
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: pib on December 30, 2017, 04:43:30 pm
Where have I ever attempted to suggest I'm a better fan?
Do you also post like this when the negative bunch come on here after every defeat saying they told you so?
No you don't.

As Jonathon pointed out earlier I've taken stick week in week out when the side was getting beat so what's wrong in giving it back.
Only last week I was called a cretin and a cnut, just for being positive.

Didn't see you commenting then

You don't take stick because you have a positive outlook, it's more because your tone is to sneer and look down your nose at people who disagree with you, and also because you constantly nit-pick at people's posts which gets their back up against you.

Self-inflicted. It seems that plenty of people share your positivity but they don't get the same "stick" - what's that tell you?

Completely disagree, why am I looking down on people?
I get stick because when the negative nonsense gets posted most people ignore it, I should also. I agree.

Your post is all what I do, but if you actually read the posts it's me just giving a different view and then getting abuse.

If you read what Johnathan has put then this is exactly how I see it.

Go on the "own posts" page on your profile and there's 3 or 4 just on the first page.

If you can't work it out that shows the root of the problem.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2017, 04:45:02 pm
I've just said other than last night,
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Copps is Magic on December 30, 2017, 04:57:07 pm
This is nonsense, 90% of my posts aren't digging other people they're giving a different viewpoint.

What's the percentage?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: IDM on December 30, 2017, 05:00:29 pm
Can this be moved to "Forum Issues" now??
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Copps is Magic on December 30, 2017, 05:02:05 pm
Why? 'forum admin' have been liking dickos posts so apparently they're enjoying this just where it is.

Are you implying this thread is not a simple contrasting opinion on football as he claims?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2017, 05:03:18 pm
This is nonsense, 90% of my posts aren't digging other people they're giving a different viewpoint.

What's the percentage?

You tell me?
What's the percentage of your replies to me that aren't attempting to be condescending?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2017, 05:04:43 pm
Why? 'forum admin' have been liking dickos posts so apparently they're enjoying this just where it is.

Are you implying this thread is not a simple contrasting opinion on football as he claims?

Jonathan's post not mine
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: IDM on December 30, 2017, 05:05:40 pm
Why? 'forum admin' have been liking dickos posts so apparently they're enjoying this just where it is.

Are you implying this thread is not a simple contrasting opinion on football as he claims?

I often admire Dickos' positivity but this is no longer a football discussion.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Campsall rover on December 30, 2017, 05:07:02 pm
Just in case you have forgotten the subject of this thread is 10th and that is where we still are. Good results for us today.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 30, 2017, 05:09:02 pm
Can't believe we're still in 10th, plus Peterborough not being able to beat 9 men! There is hope!
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: IDM on December 30, 2017, 05:09:20 pm
Just in case you have forgotten the subject of this thread is 10th and that is where we still are. Good results for us today.


Yes, we didn't do badly whilst not playing today.

Onwards and upwards!
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: philsky on December 30, 2017, 05:09:29 pm
Just in case you have forgotten the subject of this thread is 10th and that is where we still are. Good results for us today.


I was losing the will to live so thanks for your post on the post subject - yes, great news
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on December 30, 2017, 05:12:49 pm
A couple of good late goals for us too for Blackpool and Wimbledon.
Tough game on Monday but if we can pull off a win we will be within touching distance of the playoffs albeit with lots of tough games coming up
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: ravenrover on December 30, 2017, 06:48:47 pm
just got to this thread I love the way Dickos has got his retaliation in 1st it makes a change from all the negativety that we see from the usual handfull of posters and their cronies  We wont win the league, there was never any chance of that, consolidation was the aim and I must admit up to the end of November I was a little concerned, I feel a little more comfortable after this month but that's not to say we can't have a collapse as we did 2 seasons ago As a book of fairy stories says he who throws the 1st stone shouldn't live in a glass house. Don't knock Dickos for his optimism there are ways to disagree other than the ways some go for his throat and if you can't take it don't give it JMHO
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on December 30, 2017, 08:12:03 pm
Self-inflicted. It seems that plenty of people share your positivity but they don't get the same "stick" - what's that tell you?

It tells me that you're someone who thinks that the person who gets the stick is inflicting it upon themselves rather that it being the person wielding the stick who's doing the inflicting.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Lesonthewest on December 30, 2017, 08:15:18 pm
This  :that: The quote from Ravenrover.  Carry on carrying on, I respect Dickos positivity & objectivity, don't always agree with it, but he more than balances up the positives from the negatives, like it or not.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: pib on December 30, 2017, 09:07:30 pm
Self-inflicted. It seems that plenty of people share your positivity but they don't get the same "stick" - what's that tell you?

It tells me that you're someone who thinks that the person who gets the stick is inflicting it upon themselves rather that it being the person wielding the stick who's doing the inflicting.

Haha if you like.

If you're antagonistic and pedantic towards other people constantly they'll probably give you some stick, that was my point. Well done on selecting one line of my post and running with that though  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on December 30, 2017, 09:52:48 pm
Self-inflicted. It seems that plenty of people share your positivity but they don't get the same "stick" - what's that tell you?

It tells me that you're someone who thinks that the person who gets the stick is inflicting it upon themselves rather that it being the person wielding the stick who's doing the inflicting.

Haha if you like.

If you're antagonistic and pedantic towards other people constantly they'll probably give you some stick, that was my point. Well done on selecting one line of my post and running with that though  :thumbsup:

Why should I have quoted the whole of your post - did it contradict the bit I did quote? Not that I could see, which was why I didn't see the need to quote it.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: pib on December 30, 2017, 11:06:31 pm
Self-inflicted. It seems that plenty of people share your positivity but they don't get the same "stick" - what's that tell you?

It tells me that you're someone who thinks that the person who gets the stick is inflicting it upon themselves rather that it being the person wielding the stick who's doing the inflicting.

Haha if you like.

If you're antagonistic and pedantic towards other people constantly they'll probably give you some stick, that was my point. Well done on selecting one line of my post and running with that though  :thumbsup:

Why should I have quoted the whole of your post - did it contradict the bit I did quote? Not that I could see, which was why I didn't see the need to quote it.

For the context of the other points I was making. Why would I contradict myself in one post?  :lol:

 :byebye:
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on December 30, 2017, 11:42:20 pm
Good results for us today. Bound to be a big reaction from Peterborough Monday so I'd be happy with a point.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on December 30, 2017, 11:51:48 pm
Self-inflicted. It seems that plenty of people share your positivity but they don't get the same "stick" - what's that tell you?

It tells me that you're someone who thinks that the person who gets the stick is inflicting it upon themselves rather that it being the person wielding the stick who's doing the inflicting.

Haha if you like.

If you're antagonistic and pedantic towards other people constantly they'll probably give you some stick, that was my point. Well done on selecting one line of my post and running with that though  :thumbsup:

Why should I have quoted the whole of your post - did it contradict the bit I did quote? Not that I could see, which was why I didn't see the need to quote it.

For the context of the other points I was making. Why would I contradict myself in one post?  :lol:

 :byebye:

And the point you were making is that you think it's the recipient of the stick to blame and not the giver of the stick. Isn't it?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: pib on December 31, 2017, 04:30:55 pm
Self-inflicted. It seems that plenty of people share your positivity but they don't get the same "stick" - what's that tell you?

It tells me that you're someone who thinks that the person who gets the stick is inflicting it upon themselves rather that it being the person wielding the stick who's doing the inflicting.

Haha if you like.

If you're antagonistic and pedantic towards other people constantly they'll probably give you some stick, that was my point. Well done on selecting one line of my post and running with that though  :thumbsup:

Why should I have quoted the whole of your post - did it contradict the bit I did quote? Not that I could see, which was why I didn't see the need to quote it.

For the context of the other points I was making. Why would I contradict myself in one post?  :lol:

 :byebye:

And the point you were making is that you think it's the recipient of the stick to blame and not the giver of the stick. Isn't it?

Not exactly no. Can't be arsed to explain it and keep boring everyone to death with off topic posts. Plus I'm sure Dickos can speak up for himself.

PM me if you're that bothered and genuinely don't get it. I sense it's not that though and you're just being an awkward bugger.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on December 31, 2017, 06:58:20 pm
Self-inflicted. It seems that plenty of people share your positivity but they don't get the same "stick" - what's that tell you?

It tells me that you're someone who thinks that the person who gets the stick is inflicting it upon themselves rather that it being the person wielding the stick who's doing the inflicting.

Haha if you like.

If you're antagonistic and pedantic towards other people constantly they'll probably give you some stick, that was my point. Well done on selecting one line of my post and running with that though  :thumbsup:

Why should I have quoted the whole of your post - did it contradict the bit I did quote? Not that I could see, which was why I didn't see the need to quote it.

For the context of the other points I was making. Why would I contradict myself in one post?  :lol:

 :byebye:

And the point you were making is that you think it's the recipient of the stick to blame and not the giver of the stick. Isn't it?

Not exactly no. Can't be arsed to explain it and keep boring everyone to death with off topic posts. Plus I'm sure Dickos can speak up for himself.

PM me if you're that bothered and genuinely don't get it. I sense it's not that though and you're just being an awkward bugger.

I know that you're saying that sometimes posts attract stick, but any stick given is always the responsibility of the stick-giver and not the recipient. You seem to be saying the opposite.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: i_ateallthepies on January 01, 2018, 03:36:15 pm
Self-inflicted. It seems that plenty of people share your positivity but they don't get the same "stick" - what's that tell you?

It tells me that you're someone who thinks that the person who gets the stick is inflicting it upon themselves rather that it being the person wielding the stick who's doing the inflicting.

Haha if you like.

If you're antagonistic and pedantic towards other people constantly they'll probably give you some stick, that was my point. Well done on selecting one line of my post and running with that though  :thumbsup:

Why should I have quoted the whole of your post - did it contradict the bit I did quote? Not that I could see, which was why I didn't see the need to quote it.

For the context of the other points I was making. Why would I contradict myself in one post?  :lol:

 :byebye:

And the point you were making is that you think it's the recipient of the stick to blame and not the giver of the stick. Isn't it?

Not exactly no. Can't be arsed to explain it and keep boring everyone to death with off topic posts. Plus I'm sure Dickos can speak up for himself.

PM me if you're that bothered and genuinely don't get it. I sense it's not that though and you're just being an awkward bugger.

I know that you're saying that sometimes posts attract stick, but any stick given is always the responsibility of the stick-giver and not the recipient. You seem to be saying the opposite.

Your opinion Glynn, your opinion.  But, you're another of the handful on here who will argue just to be contrary and will insist on having the last word.  Just as you're going to do now.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 01, 2018, 05:15:16 pm
Self-inflicted. It seems that plenty of people share your positivity but they don't get the same "stick" - what's that tell you?

It tells me that you're someone who thinks that the person who gets the stick is inflicting it upon themselves rather that it being the person wielding the stick who's doing the inflicting.

Haha if you like.

If you're antagonistic and pedantic towards other people constantly they'll probably give you some stick, that was my point. Well done on selecting one line of my post and running with that though  :thumbsup:

Why should I have quoted the whole of your post - did it contradict the bit I did quote? Not that I could see, which was why I didn't see the need to quote it.

For the context of the other points I was making. Why would I contradict myself in one post?  :lol:

 :byebye:

And the point you were making is that you think it's the recipient of the stick to blame and not the giver of the stick. Isn't it?

Not exactly no. Can't be arsed to explain it and keep boring everyone to death with off topic posts. Plus I'm sure Dickos can speak up for himself.

PM me if you're that bothered and genuinely don't get it. I sense it's not that though and you're just being an awkward bugger.

I know that you're saying that sometimes posts attract stick, but any stick given is always the responsibility of the stick-giver and not the recipient. You seem to be saying the opposite.

Your opinion Glynn, your opinion.  But, you're another of the handful on here who will argue just to be contrary and will insist on having the last word.  Just as you're going to do now.

I first replied by paraphrasing what he himself said. I was not being contrary in any way. I will argue about something if I think it needs replying to, I don't do it just to be contrary. No doubt by saying this you'll make out I'm trying to have the last word by not tacitly agreeing with you.

PS Are you in agreement with pib that people who give out stick to people (who maybe attract it) aren't responsible for their actions because the recipient deserves it?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: glosterred on January 01, 2018, 05:24:24 pm
You can all stop arguing now about the merits of being 10th, we’re now 11th....... so 11th, good or bad?


COYR
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: drfchound on January 01, 2018, 05:27:16 pm
11th is good, especially when considering where we were not so long ago.
We have had a good turn around with recent results, especially with that draw today.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: i_ateallthepies on January 01, 2018, 05:42:20 pm
I think that people who don't care that their insistence in having the last word in discussions spoils the forum experience for the majority of people who just want to discuss issues without conflict.
What pib said strikes a chord with me because Dickos seems to make it his calling card to get into argument with anyone expressing a legitimate concern on some aspect of the club or the team.  That gets under peoples skin and I find it perfectly understandable when people get exasperated with him.  So, in that way, Dickos certainly does bring it on himself.
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on January 01, 2018, 05:54:41 pm
I think that people who don't care that their insistence in having the last word in discussions spoils the forum experience for the majority of people who just want to discuss issues without conflict.
What pib said strikes a chord with me because Dickos seems to make it his calling card to get into argument with anyone expressing a legitimate concern on some aspect of the club or the team.  That gets under peoples skin and I find it perfectly understandable when people get exasperated with him.  So, in that way, Dickos certainly does bring it on himself.

Ah bore off,
This was settled days ago, what you bringing it back up for after a great result like today's?
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: coventryrover on January 01, 2018, 05:58:37 pm
We are only half way through the season.  11th is great.     But for those late goals things could have been different but that's football.


We are on a positive trajectory now.  If we can largely stay this way we may have an elongated season.

I don't get to many games now but took my little lad to the Rochdale game.  The first half was great and shows lots of potential.

Re the arguments on here...it's always gone on.     Unfortunately  two or three viewpoints, negative or positive, can make a thread hard viewing.   I make a point of avoiding the forum for at least 3 days after a defeat.  Instant responses to a disappointing result can skew reality; reality sets in after a few days.

Remember, it's only footy and it is meant to be a release from the trudgery of life/work.   
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: dickos1 on January 01, 2018, 05:59:47 pm
I question someone's negative post and it's me looking for an arguement. People question my positive post and it's me provoking people.

It's boring now
Title: Re: 10th
Post by: IDM on January 01, 2018, 06:06:58 pm
Happy being 11th after where we were a few weeks ago.

Great performance today, competing throughout, especially with several player changes..