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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Drfc1996 on January 20, 2018, 09:34:19 pm
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Out of contract at the end of the season and will be up there with our highest earners. I’d say it’s more or less guaranteed we will keep him. But is that the right choice?
No doubt he’s a good player and his commitment to the club and community is unquestionable but is he worth the wages? Potentially could make two good signings with his wages gone. Already have Baudrey and Wright so do we need him?
Or am I out of my mind suggesting we release our captain who will be hugely influential off the field as well as being a good player on it.
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Another 12 months for me, he has been outstanding this season.
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You don’t know how much he earns ad you don’t know how much we’d offer / what he’d accept to stay at his home town club.
Complete guess work.
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We would have lost a lot more games this season had we not had Butler in the team.
No question, we should have him here next season.
He isn’t our team captain by the way.
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You don’t know how much he earns ad you don’t know how much we’d offer / what he’d accept to stay at his home town club.
Complete guess work.
Well considering we don’t know facts about most things discussed we may as we’ll come close down this forum then if you’re suggesting we can debate opinions based on guess work?
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We would have lost a lot more games this season had we not had Butler in the team.
No question, we should have him here next season.
He isn’t our team captain by the way.
Isn’t he club captain? So does more of the off the field/community work?
Either way I’d guess he’s an influential member of the squad.
Agree with you we’d have lost points without him.
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Just out of interest mate, would you like to see us keep AB.
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Just out of interest mate, would you like to see us keep AB.
Honestly I’m undecided at the moment but I’d more be swung towards keeping him. But I’ve seen comments for reasons to let him go and can see that argument
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Got to keep him based on his consistency this season.
You don’t get rid of your best players if you can avoid it.
He has unquestionably been one of our best players this season.
Good for at least one more season.
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Next season it has to be Butler and Baudry they are immense for us this season, Wright is a good stand in but it has to be them 2
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Doesn't matter his age if he's fit enough and good enough he should stay and play. Dumb to let him go because he's getting older, despite having his best season with us.
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Without a doubt keep him. Good experienced head who rarely gets injured despite his age. Another year in him at this level at the very least.
I too think that him and Baudry are our best pairing by a mile. I actually think that when fit, Baudry is a class act. Keeping him fit is the problem though.
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You don’t know how much he earns ad you don’t know how much we’d offer / what he’d accept to stay at his home town club.
Complete guess work.
Well considering we don’t know facts about most things discussed we may as we’ll come close down this forum then if you’re suggesting we can debate opinions based on guess work?
Just because you don't want to use a forum without spurious threads based on pure guesswork doesn't mean it should be shut down so that people who do can't use it.
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Come on glyn it’s a pretty fair question he’s asking
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ANDY Butler has been the only player to keep his form since joining Rovers . His natural reading of the game has saved and earned numerous points for the team, Butler will be missed if his injury is long term one , so it’s to be hoped DF has and iron in the fire For Tuesday and gets a useful loan in or his absence will be costly.
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We would have lost a lot more games this season had we not had Butler in the team.
No question, we should have him here next season.
He isn’t our team captain by the way.
Isn’t he club captain? So does more of the off the field/community work?
He is indeed club captain, Copps is captain on the pitch.
I'd keep him without question. He has been our best player this season and is such an integral part of the squad, also he's a great guy and does a lot to help our standing in the local community. We could do with a few more like him!
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I sincerely hope butler isn’t badly injured. He’s been our most consistent player/leader and without a doubt we would not be in such a positive position if it was not for his solid contribution this season!!
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Next season it has to be Butler and Baudry they are immense for us this season, Wright is a good stand in but it has to be them 2
I agree THOSE two.
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I would keep him. He adds experience in a youngish squad. Even if he wasn't first choice I could see him being useful around the dressing room.
On top of that, he has looked good.
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Come on glyn it’s a pretty fair question he’s asking
If he just asking if we should keep Andy Butler I'd agree, but wrapping it all up in complete guesswork about the money involved isn't fair; not least to Andy Butler himself.
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You dont get rid of your best players unless you can get someone better. And you wont get anyone better than AB for half his wages!
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How much is AB on, Wilts?
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Wouldn’t even consider letting him go
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If he's fit and the money side makes sense for the club then why wouldn't we keep him a bit longer? Does he fancy coaching and management later? If so I'd love to see a local hero do that for us.
As an aside I don't get this club captain/team captain nonsense. What is the precise difference?
There should be one captain only. So if it's Copps then AB is vice-captain. Is that what it means anyway in practice?
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Effectively. Butler always seems to get the armband when Coppinger isn't on the pitch.
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Keep, one year deal at least..
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I thought he would really struggle this season with how he performed last time round in league one but he's had a cracking season and deserves another year.
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As an oldie I have to say don't judge the number of years look at the physical capabilities and mental agility . Moreover he plays in a position where strength , heading ability and toughness are paramount .DF will extend his contract .
I don't think Butler wishes to retire as Copps seems to do and that will weigh in DF's thinking too.
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Come on glyn it’s a pretty fair question he’s asking
If he just asking if we should keep Andy Butler I'd agree, but wrapping it all up in complete guesswork about the money involved isn't fair; not least to Andy Butler himself.
DRFC1996 is also right when he says that most of the financial stuff that is discussed on here is based on guesswork.
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If he's fit and the money side makes sense for the club then why wouldn't we keep him a bit longer? Does he fancy coaching and management later? If so I'd love to see a local hero do that for us.
As an aside I don't get this club captain/team captain nonsense. What is the precise difference?
There should be one captain only. So if it's Copps then AB is vice-captain. Is that what it means anyway in practice?
Why is it nonsense? It seems pretty straight-forward to me and not exactly complicated. They are both leaders in the squad, Copps is in charge on the field followed by Butler, then off-field Butler heads up stuff like community activities by players and that sort of thing.
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has well earned another season.
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Why wouldn’t you give him another season, he has been consistently the best defender we have had all season. Thoroughly deserved another year
COYR
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Come on glyn it’s a pretty fair question he’s asking
If he just asking if we should keep Andy Butler I'd agree, but wrapping it all up in complete guesswork about the money involved isn't fair; not least to Andy Butler himself.
DRFC1996 is also right when he says that most of the financial stuff that is discussed on here is based on guesswork.
So why did he use it in the OP when there's no need to?
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Come on glyn it’s a pretty fair question he’s asking
If he just asking if we should keep Andy Butler I'd agree, but wrapping it all up in complete guesswork about the money involved isn't fair; not least to Andy Butler himself.
DRFC1996 is also right when he says that most of the financial stuff that is discussed on here is based on guesswork.
So why did he use it in the OP when there's no need to?
Because him being one of our highest earners (allegedly) was quite key to the point I was making/discussion I wanted.
Unfortunately I forgot the forum police would turn up to have a moan.
Whilst you’re moaning about the guess work of Butler being a high earner you might want to make a complaint to the Free Press who have mentioned it in a article this week.
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It's nonsense because you are either captain or you're not. Butler is not the captain. It's a minor semantic issue but I'd call them captain and vice-captain. Then the distinction is clearer.
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How much is AB on, Wilts?
If I knew I wouldn't put that information on a fans forum would I Bentley?
But the OP believes we can bring two players for it. I think thats daft, what do you think Bentley?
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I think the OP is speculating about AB's wage. Because you don't know his wage either, you are speculating also.
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It's nonsense because you are either captain or you're not. Butler is not the captain. It's a minor semantic issue but I'd call them captain and vice-captain. Then the distinction is clearer.
It's really quite simple. One is Team Captain (i.e. captains the football team on the field) and the other is Club Captain (heads up matters of the 'club' i.e. off-field). Very simple.