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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Retdon1 on June 17, 2019, 05:02:01 pm
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Has officially left the club
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Put my name in the Officially Worried column
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Yep, bring on his replacement.
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Put my name in the Officially Worried column
Why?
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Replacement signed up according to DFP.
Gut feeling is Andrew to Rotherham.
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Has the wheels fallen off the wagon .
Players unable to agree contracts how many has been . Butler , Andrews , Marquis, Dawson and Marosi . Etc ... looking like the club are interested in sustaining the better aspects of the club IT’S players . F*** idiots . McCann could be next after all there’s a vacancy at Charlton . mmmm
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Players change teams every close season.. disappointing to see certain players leave but it is what it is..
We move on.
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Not that bothered about him going. Was poor for 3/4 of the season... I’m guessing we are buying his replacement from another league 1 club
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Put my name in the Officially Worried column
Why?
Don't know about Philsky but it is a little unnerving that all the definite news we're getting just now is about players leaving. Trying to stay positive. A bit of news about incoming players would be helpful
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https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-explains-why-he-pulled-plug-on-danny-andrew-contract-talks-162815
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Crikey, I think you should read the clubs statement! He agreed a new deal, an increased deal at that, promised to sign before he got married, then promised to sign before leaving for his honeymoon.
Some players just do that, it's not the clubs fault.
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Good going forward, crossing not good, defending pretty poor got skinned time after time last season.
Not too upset he's gone
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Put my name in the Officially Worried column
Why?
Don't know about Philsky but it is a little unnerving that all the definite news we're getting just now is about players leaving. Trying to stay positive. A bit of news about incoming players would be helpful
I wouldn't worry, wait until the end of the week, my understanding is we could see a few in by then.
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Good going forward, crossing not good, defending pretty poor got skinned time after time last season.
Not too upset he's gone
I also remember everybody being concerned about his fitness record when he signed as well. He then was out for most of his first season with us.
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Put my name in the Officially Worried column
Why?
Because it’s all reactionary now.
Not, proactively building on last seasons positive developments.
Granted I might be worrying for nothing but I’m not as comfortable as I was.
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Put my name in the Officially Worried column
Why?
Because it’s all reactionary now.
Not, proactively building on last seasons positive developments.
Granted I might be worrying for nothing but I’m not as comfortable as I was.
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Put my name in the Officially Worried column
Why?
Don't know about Philsky but it is a little unnerving that all the definite news we're getting just now is about players leaving. Trying to stay positive. A bit of news about incoming players would be helpful
I wouldn't worry, wait until the end of the week, my understanding is we could see a few in by then.
I hope so SM.
Some of our posters are likely to be hospital patients if not.
You would think that we aren’t going to be signing any players when you read some of the posts.
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Not sure why so many people are up in arms. McCann seems to have someone else lined up already!
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Put my name in the Officially Worried column
Why?
Because it’s all reactionary now.
Not, proactively building on last seasons positive developments.
Granted I might be worrying for nothing but I’m not as comfortable as I was.
It's not reactionary though is it? The club knew he would be out of contract so had prepared the ground for him to leave, he did say he'd sign but didn't, therefore the club sign his replacement immediately. Not sure how that's reactionary.
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Going by Mccann's response to his agent dealings its good riddance, if he wanted to stay he would have told his agent sign the deal but no. Gotta like Mccanns handling with that, just pull it after being greedy. WELL DONE GM :rtid:
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Hadn't read the DFP article when I posted earlier. Think McCann is right, but can't wait for some positive news about incomings
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Not sure why so many people are up in arms. McCann seems to have someone else lined up already!
And he was pretty sh** for 3/4 of the season. Left back was a weak point in that defence so not too disappointed at all he's off.
Look forward to another new player! :rtid:
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f**k Andrew. Right behind Grants decision if that report is all facts.
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Only a few weeks ago DA was getting slated by quite a few posters on here so I don’t understand why it is suddenly a big issue that he has left.
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Has the wheels fallen off the wagon .
Players unable to agree contracts how many has been . Butler , Andrews , Marquis, Dawson and Marosi . Etc ... looking like the club are interested in sustaining the better aspects of the club IT’S players . F*** idiots . McCann could be next after all there’s a vacancy at Charlton . mmmm
There is no hope for you mate. Get help.
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NB - we are brutalising the English language here. It is “reactively” rather than “reactionary” - the latter has an altogether different meaning.
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Going by Mccann's response to his agent dealings its good riddance, if he wanted to stay he would have told his agent sign the deal but no. Gotta like Mccanns handling with that, just pull it after being greedy. WELL DONE GM :rtid:
Sensible post I think we will be more than fine come the beginning of the season
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Got to love grants approach absolutely no nonsense with any big time charlie types you either want to be here or your out. Can only lead to better characters in the squad the long run even if we lose a few in this summer
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f**k him, and most of all f**k his agent, the greedy t**ts
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Put my name in the Officially Worried column
Why?
Because it’s all reactionary now.
Not, proactively building on last seasons positive developments.
Granted I might be worrying for nothing but I’m not as comfortable as I was.
It's not reactionary though is it? The club knew he would be out of contract so had prepared the ground for him to leave, he did say he'd sign but didn't, therefore the club sign his replacement immediately. Not sure how that's reactionary.
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NB - we are brutalising the English language here. It is “reactively” rather than “reactionary” - the latter has an altogether different meaning.
Aye but it's more accurate for the attitude of some posters....
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Has the wheels fallen off the wagon .
Players unable to agree contracts how many has been . Butler , Andrews , Marquis, Dawson and Marosi . Etc ... looking like the club are interested in sustaining the better aspects of the club IT’S players . F*** idiots . McCann could be next after all there’s a vacancy at Charlton . mmmm
Put your tampon back in you f**kin whining little girl.
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Brilliant from McCan. His agent has acted like a complete tool... good riddance
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Love it. Exactly right from GM.
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Wonder how Andrew feels about this maybe his agent has screwed him trying to get every last penny out of us. That said if Andrew really wanted it that bad it'd have been sorted
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Got to admire GM we don't need agents demanding shite like that and if the lad does not want to play for the club. Let him move on but with no blessings grredy barstewards
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Yes they’ve known about players contracts and concerns yet it’s allowed to roll over cliff edge and it’s looking more like the would sooner keep in L1 with a lower wage bill. I expect McCann to get tapped up now and this will cap this very poor recruitment demonstrated so far . Charlton looking for new manager .
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Completely back McCann here, sets an example and says we're not tolerating that kind of behaviour, whether it's the player or agent.
However in Andrew we had a good goal threat from free kicks for the first time in many years. When we got a FK on the edge of the box it was genuinely a chance and changed games. Will be a shame to see that go.
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Well done GM ..wrong attitude from the player and iof his agent ..club’s need to stand their ground like this .Otherwise forget team spirit .
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Right thing to do from McCann and if Danny wants to stay here he'd leave his agent. He's better off without him. I can understand people getting worried with Rowe, Butler and now Andrew. The smaller squad and tighter wage bill (which are understandable but do make you consider there has been changed in the budget) then soundings of Marquis and Whiteman going. We had a play off team but we could be starting next season with just Copps and Blair from the team that started against Charlton. A new signing would be brilliant for fans right about now.
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No dramas this. Andrew had his chance to sign on multiple occasions on a much better wage (credit the board) and he's seemingly been a t**t about it and played the club a bit. Loss on the pitch but we'll be fine.
C ya!
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Decent player but not outstanding enough to be paying over the odds. Next!
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Completely back McCann here, sets an example and says we're not tolerating that kind of behaviour, whether it's the player or agent.
However in Andrew we had a good goal threat from free kicks for the first time in many years. When we got a FK on the edge of the box it was genuinely a chance and changed games. Will be a shame to see that go.
Remind me how many did Andrew score last year?
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For just about the whole of last season I was disappointed in his performances. Little threat going forward and as others have said, got done too often defending. The only bright spot for me was the sudden surge of goals from free kicks at the back end of the season.
No great loss for me and McCann is absolutely bang on with his handling of it.
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Wouldn't have minded keeping him but hes certainly replaceable and we could quite easily end up with a just as good or better replacement.
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Not to say the next guy will not be even better - but it is true to say that for some time our set pieces have been absolutely risible and Danny Andrew demonstrated for a few months that it did not have to be that way. New guy hopefully will continue this trend. Other players need to step up their games as well.
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Wouldn't have minded keeping him but hes certainly replaceable and we could quite easily end up with a just as good or better replacement.
All players are replaceable but not necessarily with quality . We’ve been here before and we ended up with Dickov creations because they were cheap and available. It’s pathetic recruitment 12 out 1 in McCann has to be pulling his hair out .
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I have said to my son all season I think he has been poor and 100% agree with GM.
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Completely back McCann here, sets an example and says we're not tolerating that kind of behaviour, whether it's the player or agent.
However in Andrew we had a good goal threat from free kicks for the first time in many years. When we got a FK on the edge of the box it was genuinely a chance and changed games. Will be a shame to see that go.
Remind me how many did Andrew score last year?
He scored 5 goals in all comps tbf which is pretty good.
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Left back played 30ish games in League 1.... Cameron Borthwick-Jackson?
33 appearances for Scunny last season.
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Left back played 30ish games in League 1.... Cameron Borthwick-Jackson?
33 appearances for Scunny last season.
Some people will say he isn’t very good as he only scored twice last season.
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Wouldn't have minded keeping him but hes certainly replaceable and we could quite easily end up with a just as good or better replacement.
All players are replaceable but not necessarily with quality . We’ve been here before and we ended up with Dickov creations because they were cheap and available. It’s pathetic recruitment 12 out 1 in McCann has to be pulling his hair out .
Andrew isn't a high quality left back.
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Left back played 30ish games in League 1.... Cameron Borthwick-Jackson?
33 appearances for Scunny last season.
He was only on loan their from Man U. The way the article read to me was that we agreed a deal with a league 1 club. I could be wrong mind.....
Could it be Ben Purrington from Rotherham. Was on loan at Charlton last season ?
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I can not wait to see who he signs for. League 2 maybe.
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Wouldn't have minded keeping him but hes certainly replaceable and we could quite easily end up with a just as good or better replacement.
All players are replaceable but not necessarily with quality . We’ve been here before and we ended up with Dickov creations because they were cheap and available. It’s pathetic recruitment 12 out 1 in McCann has to be pulling his hair out .
Are you still including McCullough, Mandeville and Beestin as regular first teamers from last season.
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Left back played 30ish games in League 1.... Cameron Borthwick-Jackson?
33 appearances for Scunny last season.
bloody hell how much would that cost on back of a new shirt
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I like Danny Andrew and think he's a decent player at this level. That said, I find McCann's approach refreshing and completely agree with his stance. He clearly won't allow anyone to mug us off for more money than they're worth.
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f**k the money grabbing Kitson.
Well and truly deserves a hostile reception on his return.
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f**k the money grabbing Kitson.
Well and truly deserves a hostile reception on his return.
Why.
Would that apply to Marquis if he leaves for more money?
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f**k the money grabbing Kitson.
Well and truly deserves a hostile reception on his return.
Why.
Would that apply to Marquis if he leaves for more money?
Andrew agreed a new contract then reneged on the deal, trying to squeeze more money out of the club.
Haven't you read the dfp article?
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No I haven’t but on here it is said that he said he would sign, but didn’t.
Marquis signed a three year deal and still has a year to go.
Is that any different?
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Bloody good on them. I applaud the club. Yes Danny was a steady left back but it’s so refreshing to see a club saying b*llocks to a player to show they won’t be messed around.
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f**k the money grabbing Kitson.
Well and truly deserves a hostile reception on his return.
Why.
Would that apply to Marquis if he leaves for more money?
Andrew agreed a new contract then reneged on the deal, trying to squeeze more money out of the club.
Haven't you read the dfp article?
Not very often we see eye to eye, but on this one I’m with you all the way
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No I haven’t but on here it is said that he said he would sign, but didn’t.
Marquis signed a three year deal and still has a year to go.
Is that any different?
Yeah it's different. If we don't accept a bid he stays. it's on our terms Andrew was trying to deal on his terms which he wasn't in a position to do, so he's out. It's not like Andrew has a queue of championship club waiting he clearly just wanted to stretch us too far.
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I suppose from Andrews point of view he’s just had a kid and is an injury prone player. He will be looking for a long contract with a big wage as security.
I’m glad we’re not giving in to player demands as it now sets a precedent for players at the club.
We move on.
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f**k the money grabbing Kitson.
Well and truly deserves a hostile reception on his return.
Why.
Would that apply to Marquis if he leaves for more money?
Different situation. Marquis and the club have been honest with each other throughout. Nobody can begrudge Marquis going on to bigger clubs now after what he’s given us.
Andrew has been here for what, 2 seasons? Played for 1 in reality.
Andrew and his agent, albeit only hearing McCann’s side, have acted like Kitsons. F**k him. Just knock the ball over his head and get him going back towards his own goal when we play against him and we’ll be in.
Let’s be honest, we were all on the fence about whether he should be staying. His performances did pick up towards the end of the season but still nowhere near solid enough defensively.
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I suppose from Andrews point of view he’s just had a kid and is an injury prone player. He will be looking for a long contract with a big wage as security.
I’m glad we’re not giving in to player demands as it now sets a precedent for players at the club.
We move on.
I had two kids, on a lot less money than he’ll be on, thats a poor excuse
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I find the apathy from the manager and anyone officially associated with the club quite staggering. The "Who cares, all these good players can just clear off" attitude shows what a bad attitude the club has towards players. Why would anyone want to play for a club that has little or no respect for players and what to pay them peanuts? The core of players who got us into the playoffs are leaving in drovers. Go on, argue with me, I don't care I still think the attitude stinks.
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I find the apathy from the manager and anyone officially associated with the club quite staggering. The "Who cares, all these good players can just clear off" attitude shows what a bad attitude the club has towards players. Why would anyone want to play for a club that has little or no respect for players and what to pay them peanuts? The core of players who got us into the playoffs are leaving in drovers. Go on, argue with me, I don't care I still think the attitude stinks.
I get your point but if we have offered him a better deal which was agreed then i'm with Mcann in telling him to piss off. McCann is cleary irritated by the agent.
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I find the apathy from the manager and anyone officially associated with the club quite staggering. The "Who cares, all these good players can just clear off" attitude shows what a bad attitude the club has towards players. Why would anyone want to play for a club that has little or no respect for players and what to pay them peanuts? The core of players who got us into the playoffs are leaving in drovers. Go on, argue with me, I don't care I still think the attitude stinks.
There’s a balance to be had I think. I don’t think the manager is saying good players can clear off, but when Andrew verbally agrees a deal, then stalls and stalls for weeks before saying he’s off somewhere else, he’s holding the club to ransom and I can see why McCann has a strong stance on that.
As much as we want the club to have respect for players, it works both ways and we also want players who have respect for the club and don’t send out a message that the club can be pissed around and squeezed for more money in a negotiation.
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It’s a piss poor start to A new season no matter how you view it .
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His lack of awareness and ball watching in the 1st leg against Charlton cost us 2 goals and probably a visit to Wembley.
Well overrated and very replaceable at a cheaper rate than he wanted.
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I find the apathy from the manager and anyone officially associated with the club quite staggering. The "Who cares, all these good players can just clear off" attitude shows what a bad attitude the club has towards players. Why would anyone want to play for a club that has little or no respect for players and what to pay them peanuts? The core of players who got us into the playoffs are leaving in drovers. Go on, argue with me, I don't care I still think the attitude stinks.
Attention seeking.
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I find the apathy from the manager and anyone officially associated with the club quite staggering. The "Who cares, all these good players can just clear off" attitude shows what a bad attitude the club has towards players. Why would anyone want to play for a club that has little or no respect for players and what to pay them peanuts? The core of players who got us into the playoffs are leaving in drovers. Go on, argue with me, I don't care I still think the attitude stinks.
Hardly think offering the lad improved terms on a number of occasions is showing disrespect to players.
I’m really pleased Rovers have acted like this. He was a decent enough player but he’s obviously got a kitson for an agent.
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I find the apathy from the manager and anyone officially associated with the club quite staggering. The "Who cares, all these good players can just clear off" attitude shows what a bad attitude the club has towards players. Why would anyone want to play for a club that has little or no respect for players and what to pay them peanuts? The core of players who got us into the playoffs are leaving in drovers. Go on, argue with me, I don't care I still think the attitude stinks.
Nothing to argue about, you're making stuff up. Why?
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It’s a piss poor start to A new season no matter how you view it .
Just as a matter of interest, what do you think the Rovers should have done differently re Andrew?
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Danny Andrew was bang average for rhe the most part of the season. Not great going forward and players getting past him with ease at the back. All of a sudden he scores a free kick which started a run of them. Something we'd not seen all season and his form picks up.
Now if this was him putting himself in the shop window then he's not the sort of player I want in my team if he's not putting in 100% every week.
Bye bye!
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I think you'll find Andrew has a different story to that being peddled by the Free Press. And to those who don't believe me, I posted that he was leaving hours before it was official.
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I think you'll find Andrew has a different story to that being peddled by the Free Press. And to those who don't believe me, I posted that he was leaving hours before it was official.
Think you're missing the zeitgeist on this one.
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I think you'll find Andrew has a different story to that being peddled by the Free Press. And to those who don't believe me, I posted that he was leaving hours before it was official.
The Free Press was quoting Grant not making it up.
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I think you'll find Andrew has a different story to that being peddled by the Free Press. And to those who don't believe me, I posted that he was leaving hours before it was official.
Which is...?
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Refreshingly pleased to see the views of most fans in this thread, and I agree with those saying it's no big loss. Bit of a shame as he did improve but nobody is bigger than the club and Andrew and his agent must think they are.
Only the usual suspects seem to be pouring negativity towards the club here.
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I think you'll find Andrew has a different story to that being peddled by the Free Press. And to those who don't believe me, I posted that he was leaving hours before it was official.
Which is...?
Isn't for me to dsay, but it is a million miles from what is being said by the club.
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I think you'll find Andrew has a different story to that being peddled by the Free Press. And to those who don't believe me, I posted that he was leaving hours before it was official.
Which is...?
Isn't for me to dsay, but it is a million miles from what is being said by the club.
Bore off then.
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I think you'll find Andrew has a different story to that being peddled by the Free Press. And to those who don't believe me, I posted that he was leaving hours before it was official.
Which is...?
Isn't for me to dsay, but it is a million miles from what is being said by the club.
Bore off then.
Couldn't give a f**k if you believe me or not. check my posts, the stuff i say is going to happen - happens. If people don't believe me, I couldn't care less.
It does amuse me that people buy every bit of crap that the club say.
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I think you'll find Andrew has a different story to that being peddled by the Free Press. And to those who don't believe me, I posted that he was leaving hours before it was official.
Which is...?
Isn't for me to dsay, but it is a million miles from what is being said by the club.
Bore off then.
Couldn't give a f**k if you believe me or not. check my posts, the stuff i say is going to happen - happens. If people don't believe me, I couldn't care less.
It does amuse me that people buy every bit of crap that the club say.
But we haven't heard any other story, so why shouldn't we believe it? All you're doing is saying you know something but not saying what it is. It's just tedious.
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I think you'll find Andrew has a different story to that being peddled by the Free Press. And to those who don't believe me, I posted that he was leaving hours before it was official.
Which is...?
Isn't for me to dsay, but it is a million miles from what is being said by the club.
Bore off then.
Couldn't give a f**k if you believe me or not. check my posts, the stuff i say is going to happen - happens. If people don't believe me, I couldn't care less.
It does amuse me that people buy every bit of crap that the club say.
Let’s think then. Should we believe the club or should we believe an anonymous poster on a fans forum who seems to like nothing better than a hearty piece of cynicism?
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Apparently he’s signed for Fleetwood
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Wonder if we are in for Reece James at Sunderland ??
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Andrew to Fleetwood
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Fleetwood announcing a signing at 8pm. No prizes for guessing who.
In my opinion, we can do better. Liability at times.
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Yes they’ve known about players contracts and concerns yet it’s allowed to roll over cliff edge and it’s looking more like the would sooner keep in L1 with a lower wage bill. I expect McCann to get tapped up now and this will cap this very poor recruitment demonstrated so far . Charlton looking for new manager .
Bonkers post.
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It's sad times when we can't compete with Fleetwood
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How long has this negotiation been going on then?
We find out today and he's fixed up by now.
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You dont sign for Fleetwood over donny if it's not about money....
To add, he did well at back end of season I thought. We have no reason to doubt McCann and what he has said, let's see who his replacement is.
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You dont sign for Fleetwood over donny if it's not about money....
They clearly think he's worth more than we do. Who's to say they are wrong?
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It's sad times when we can't compete with Fleetwood
Certainly not in the 'employing arseholes as managers' stakes.
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You dont sign for Fleetwood over donny if it's not about money....
They clearly think he's worth more than we do. Who's to say they are wrong?
Perhaps they are not. Let's see who his replacement is.
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Not a massive miss but important we get a better replacement, be interesting to hear his side of the story once he comes out and gives it
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Wasn’t James husband at Fleetwood last season. He played 33 games... a possible replacement
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Wasn’t James husband at Fleetwood last season. He played 33 games... a possible replacement
Still in contract at Norwich, we'd probably have to pay a fee. Which is a big no no for us.
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https://www.fleetwoodtownfc.com/news/2019/june/danny-andrew-becomes-first-signing-of-the-summer/
Confirmed
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I think you'll find Andrew has a different story to that being peddled by the Free Press. And to those who don't believe me, I posted that he was leaving hours before it was official.
Which is...?
Isn't for me to dsay, but it is a million miles from what is being said by the club.
Bore off then.
Couldn't give a f**k if you believe me or not. check my posts, the stuff i say is going to happen - happens. If people don't believe me, I couldn't care less.
It does amuse me that people buy every bit of crap that the club say.
All you've said is Andrew has a different story to whats in the press. Which is obvious he's hardly going to say yeah i was trying it on! you've not given us any information which we can use to either believe or not believe.
Hate it when people post "in the know" stuff and refuse to back it up like this. Whats the point if its private information keep it that way and don't go looking for some medal on a forum
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I think you'll find Andrew has a different story to that being peddled by the Free Press. And to those who don't believe me, I posted that he was leaving hours before it was official.
Which is...?
Isn't for me to dsay, but it is a million miles from what is being said by the club.
Bore off then.
Couldn't give a f**k if you believe me or not. check my posts, the stuff i say is going to happen - happens. If people don't believe me, I couldn't care less.
It does amuse me that people buy every bit of crap that the club say.
All you've said is Andrew has a different story to whats in the press. Which is obvious he's hardly going to say yeah i was trying it on! you've not given us any information which we can use to either believe or not believe.
Hate it when people post "in the know" stuff and refuse to back it up like this. Whats the point if its private information keep it that way and don't go looking for some medal on a forum
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I did post about Andrew leaving 6 hours before it was announced, for people to say I was making it up. Same with Rowe.
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Signing Reece Brown from Sunderland. For a fee too I believe.
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Wasn’t James husband at Fleetwood last season. He played 33 games... a possible replacement
Still in contract at Norwich, we'd probably have to pay a fee. Which is a big no no for us.
We've already agreed a fee with another club...
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Wasn’t James husband at Fleetwood last season. He played 33 games... a possible replacement
Still in contract at Norwich, we'd probably have to pay a fee. Which is a big no no for us.
We’ve already confirmed we’ve agreed a fee with a club or do you only read what suits your negative way of thinking
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Wasn’t James husband at Fleetwood last season. He played 33 games... a possible replacement
Still in contract at Norwich, we'd probably have to pay a fee. Which is a big no no for us.
We’ve already confirmed we’ve agreed a fee with a club or do you only read what suits your negative way of thinking
I don't read the press.
All I post are facts. Why else would I say Rowe, Butler and Andrew were leaving hours before it happened?
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Wasn’t James husband at Fleetwood last season. He played 33 games... a possible replacement
Still in contract at Norwich, we'd probably have to pay a fee. Which is a big no no for us.
Don’t let the facts get in the way of having a little dig at the club will you?
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Wasn’t James husband at Fleetwood last season. He played 33 games... a possible replacement
Still in contract at Norwich, we'd probably have to pay a fee. Which is a big no no for us.
We’ve already confirmed we’ve agreed a fee with a club or do you only read what suits your negative way of thinking
I don't read the press.
All I post are facts. Why else would I say Rowe, Butler and Andrew were leaving hours before it happened?
Because the world's a porous place.
Can you tell us who's coming in?
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Wasn’t James husband at Fleetwood last season. He played 33 games... a possible replacement
Still in contract at Norwich, we'd probably have to pay a fee. Which is a big no no for us.
We’ve already confirmed we’ve agreed a fee with a club or do you only read what suits your negative way of thinking
I don't read the press.
All I post are facts. Why else would I say Rowe, Butler and Andrew were leaving hours before it happened?
Fair enough. Just don't be a bellend saying "oh, that's only their side of the story" then not back it up and offer an alternative. I don't know if you expect a medal or something?
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Wasn’t James husband at Fleetwood last season. He played 33 games... a possible replacement
Still in contract at Norwich, we'd probably have to pay a fee. Which is a big no no for us.
We’ve already confirmed we’ve agreed a fee with a club or do you only read what suits your negative way of thinking
I don't read the press.
All I post are facts. Why else would I say Rowe, Butler and Andrew were leaving hours before it happened?
Fair enough. Just don't be a bellend saying "oh, that's only their side of the story" then not back it up and offer an alternative. I don't know if you expect a medal or something?
I get you. I just know Andrew has a different version of events. It's up to him if he wants to air them.
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Wasn’t James husband at Fleetwood last season. He played 33 games... a possible replacement
Still in contract at Norwich, we'd probably have to pay a fee. Which is a big no no for us.
We’ve already confirmed we’ve agreed a fee with a club or do you only read what suits your negative way of thinking
I don't read the press.
All I post are facts. Why else would I say Rowe, Butler and Andrew were leaving hours before it happened?
It’s on the clubs official website
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Signing Reece Brown from Sunderland. For a fee too I believe.
Reece James you mean?
He’s just signed a new contract with Sunderland so not likely
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He should be removed from this forum ...he’s yesterday's news . Good f** ridence!
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Wasn’t James husband at Fleetwood last season. He played 33 games... a possible replacement
Still in contract at Norwich, we'd probably have to pay a fee. Which is a big no no for us.
We’ve already confirmed we’ve agreed a fee with a club or do you only read what suits your negative way of thinking
I don't read the press.
All I post are facts. Why else would I say Rowe, Butler and Andrew were leaving hours before it happened?
Fair enough. Just don't be a bellend saying "oh, that's only their side of the story" then not back it up and offer an alternative. I don't know if you expect a medal or something?
I get you. I just know Andrew has a different version of events. It's up to him if he wants to air them.
He was either offered a contract or he wasn't? It's not a difficult one.
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Yes silly me!!! :facepalm: But yes Reece James. Sunderland taken up the option on his contract to get some money for him!!
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Players often have their own take on events. The bit of a tw@t move by Danny to be honest but whatever. He prefers to play for a cancerous manager, fair enough.
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Yes silly me!!! :facepalm: But yes Reece James. Sunderland taken up the option on his contract to get some money for him!!
It was the player that took up the option but maybe still doesn’t mean we haven’t signed him
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It seems to me reading between the lines that Danny Andrew is listening to his agent and not the using his brain.
Seems he is taking some very iffy advice imo
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It didn't work out too well for Tristram Whitman and Theo Streete who both did the same.
I would have thought that a player would be better letting his contract run out and then he might get a bigger signing on fee or higher wages as there's ne transfer fee involved.
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Is Barton still manager there? not kept up with what happened after the Barnsley mess. Not a stable place to go if he still it because he must to due in court over the whole thing
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I seem to recall Tyke62 saying the case comes up in the summer.
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Very disappointing, can’t lie. He wasn’t brilliant for us but he was steady away and towards the end of the season he was brilliant. I believe he played every game for us last season.
It just seems that every player we want or offer something to we struggle to get in this summer, I don’t buy all this talk from McCann personally and I think he’d be better off keeping quiet about some of these things. Don’t want to come across negative but things definetky haven’t gone to plan so far.
On the plus side, it may work out better in the long run and this player coming in could potentially be better than Andrew.
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The club obviously wanted him but he chose to do a Mason and lie to them . Good riddance we don’t need pathetic patronage like Andrews .
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The club obviously wanted him but he chose to do a Mason and lie to them . Good riddance we don’t need pathetic patronage like Andrews .
I really hope Andrew puts his side across. You've no idea what you're talking about. He's put his family first, something the club couldn't give a shit about.
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I know you will get at me but it shows they must have more ambition than us, but let's see how things go by the end of the week or beginning of next week
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The club obviously wanted him but he chose to do a Mason and lie to them . Good riddance we don’t need pathetic patronage like Andrews .
I really hope Andrew puts his side across. You've no idea what you're talking about. He's put his family first, something the club couldn't give a shit about.
The club supported him and payed him for a year when he got his injury so to piss off for a few extra quid to a team that realistically ain't gonna be in the top come end of next season shows no loyalty or ambition at all ,
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If you don't know how the board operate by now, then you never will.
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Very disappointing, can’t lie. He wasn’t brilliant for us but he was steady away and towards the end of the season he was brilliant. I believe he played every game for us last season.
It just seems that every player we want or offer something to we struggle to get in this summer, I don’t buy all this talk from McCann personally and I think he’d be better off keeping quiet about some of these things. Don’t want to come across negative but things definetky haven’t gone to plan so far.
On the plus side, it may work out better in the long run and this player coming in could potentially be better than Andrew.
I agree...
Nothing that has happened so far is a disaster but it’s certainly not going to plan so far
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I do cheap and skates come to mind, but we will sign players maybe within a week I HOPE LOL
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We need to close the flood gates before it's to late
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I know you will get at me but it shows they must have more ambition than us, but let's see how things go by the end of the week or beginning of next week
No it doesn’t show more ambition at all. It shows they are a club that is prepared to pay over the odds and beyond their means in the pursuit of glory.
What do you think the end result will be. 3 guesses.
Clue.
Leeds, Bolton, Bury, Notts County as recent case examples, plus many many more over the last 20 yrs or so.
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No great loss he’s a poor left back. Most of us wanted Amos to be given a chance/recalled last season.
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I do cheap and skates come to mind, but we will sign players maybe within a week I HOPE LOL
That's your opinion. You're not shy at asking probing questions at the Meet The Owners so why not challenge their fiscal policy at the next one?
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
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I do cheap and skates come to mind, but we will sign players maybe within a week I HOPE LOL
Now now mate, you know what we said.
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https://www.fleetwoodtownfc.com/news/2019/june/andrew-ambition-key-to-cod-army-move/
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
Whitehead ?
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I do cheap and skates come to mind, but we will sign players maybe within a week I HOPE LOL
That's your opinion. You're not shy at asking probing questions at the Meet The Owners so why not challenge their fiscal policy at the next one?
and you know I will if we don't sign up any players with substance
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I do cheap and skates come to mind, but we will sign players maybe within a week I HOPE LOL
Now now mate, you know what we said.
I know mate but we have to disgusts these things and it is no good just being one sided on it
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.
And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
I suggest you read this https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-explains-why-he-pulled-plug-on-danny-andrew-contract-talks-162815?amp&__twitter_impression=true
No offence but I think I believe the words of McCann then yourself who hasn’t provided any evidence to any of your claims
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Red army, do you live on Broadway?
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
I suggest you read this https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-explains-why-he-pulled-plug-on-danny-andrew-contract-talks-162815?amp&__twitter_impression=true
No offence but I think I believe the words of McCann then yourself who hasn’t provided any evidence to any of your claims
I don't have to prove anything. I've been told from the horses mouth the reason he turned us down. If people want to believe the crap the club keeps putting out, that's up to them.
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Red army, do you live on Broadway?
No, I lived on the upper West Side when I lived in NYC
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.
And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.
Don't think you have said, so it's nice to actually hear something from you.
If it's family concerns then why are you whinging about budgets and the club not offering him an acceptable salary?
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Red army, do you live on Broadway?
No, I lived on the upper West Side when I lived in NYC
I mean Broadway, the road in Dunscroft.
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.
And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.
Why don't you just spit it out? You've been dancing around the topic and dropping veiled hints all evening.
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.
And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.
Don't think you have said, so it's nice to actually hear something from you.
If it's family concerns then why are you whinging about budgets and the club not offering him an acceptable salary?
With the case of Rowe it was money. More than a 50 percent cut on his old contract.
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
I suggest you read this https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-explains-why-he-pulled-plug-on-danny-andrew-contract-talks-162815?amp&__twitter_impression=true
No offence but I think I believe the words of McCann then yourself who hasn’t provided any evidence to any of your claims
I don't have to prove anything. I've been told from the horses mouth the reason he turned us down. If people want to believe the crap the club keeps putting out, that's up to them.
Again you provide no proof what so ever. Anyone can sit at a keyboard and type made up stuff.
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.
And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.
Don't think you have said, so it's nice to actually hear something from you.
If it's family concerns then why are you whinging about budgets and the club not offering him an acceptable salary?
With the case of Rowe it was money. More than a 50 percent cut on his old contract.
Most fans would agree with a cut in rowes wages. When we signed him, he was our marquee signing. Where as now he’s a squad player with a less than average injury record
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
I suggest you read this https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-explains-why-he-pulled-plug-on-danny-andrew-contract-talks-162815?amp&__twitter_impression=true
No offence but I think I believe the words of McCann then yourself who hasn’t provided any evidence to any of your claims
I don't have to prove anything. I've been told from the horses mouth the reason he turned us down. If people want to believe the crap the club keeps putting out, that's up to them.
Again you provide no proof what so ever. Anyone can sit at a keyboard and type made up stuff.
Maybe the fact I posted the he'd gone six hours before the press had got wind of it.
The only proof you're ever going to get is if Andrew comes out with it himself, but then you'd only say he's talking shit, so what's the point?
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Red army, do you live on Broadway?
No, I lived on the upper West Side when I lived in NYC
I mean Broadway, the road in Dunscroft.
Well, do you?
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Red army, do you live on Broadway?
No, I lived on the upper West Side when I lived in NYC
I mean Broadway, the road in Dunscroft.
Well, do you?
No, I do not live in Dunscroft. I live in High Melton.
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
I suggest you read this https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-explains-why-he-pulled-plug-on-danny-andrew-contract-talks-162815?amp&__twitter_impression=true
No offence but I think I believe the words of McCann then yourself who hasn’t provided any evidence to any of your claims
I don't have to prove anything. I've been told from the horses mouth the reason he turned us down. If people want to believe the crap the club keeps putting out, that's up to them.
Again you provide no proof what so ever. Anyone can sit at a keyboard and type made up stuff.
Maybe the fact I posted the he'd gone six hours before the press had got wind of it.
The only proof you're ever going to get is if Andrew comes out with it himself, but then you'd only say he's talking shit, so what's the point?
The club cut off talks with DA over a week ago, so being 6 hours ahead of the press means nothing. The club made a statement tonight because Fleetwood intended to make an announcement. Our club (I'm assuming it's yours too) wanted the information to come from them.
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.
And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.
Don't think you have said, so it's nice to actually hear something from you.
If it's family concerns then why are you whinging about budgets and the club not offering him an acceptable salary?
With the case of Rowe it was money. More than a 50 percent cut on his old contract.
As someone else has since touched on, Rowe wasn't worth more money. He wasn't the main man any more. Good player on his day but another one I wouldn't break the bank for.
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
I suggest you read this https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-explains-why-he-pulled-plug-on-danny-andrew-contract-talks-162815?amp&__twitter_impression=true
No offence but I think I believe the words of McCann then yourself who hasn’t provided any evidence to any of your claims
I don't have to prove anything. I've been told from the horses mouth the reason he turned us down. If people want to believe the crap the club keeps putting out, that's up to them.
Again you provide no proof what so ever. Anyone can sit at a keyboard and type made up stuff.
Maybe the fact I posted the he'd gone six hours before the press had got wind of it.
The only proof you're ever going to get is if Andrew comes out with it himself, but then you'd only say he's talking shit, so what's the point?
The club cut off talks with DA over a week ago, so being 6 hours ahead of the press means nothing. The club made a statement tonight because Fleetwood intended to make an announcement. Our club (I'm assuming it's yours too) wanted the information to come from them.
I can't ever remember you posting proof of any of your claims? Like all the JR stuff. Where is it?
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.
And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.
Don't think you have said, so it's nice to actually hear something from you.
If it's family concerns then why are you whinging about budgets and the club not offering him an acceptable salary?
With the case of Rowe it was money. More than a 50 percent cut on his old contract.
As someone else has since touched on, Rowe wasn't worth more money. He wasn't the main man any more. Good player on his day but another one I wouldn't break the bank for.
And why should he take a 50 percent cut? He knows he can get more elsewhere.
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redarmy82,
What claims?
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redarmy82,
What claims?
I can't remember word for word, but who had evidence against him, against his takeover bid?
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redarmy82,
What claims?
I can't remember word for word, but who had evidence against him, against his takeover bid?
YAWN 😴😴😴
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Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.
This.
Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.
I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.
Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.
Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.
How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.
Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.
And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.
Don't think you have said, so it's nice to actually hear something from you.
If it's family concerns then why are you whinging about budgets and the club not offering him an acceptable salary?
With the case of Rowe it was money. More than a 50 percent cut on his old contract.
As someone else has since touched on, Rowe wasn't worth more money. He wasn't the main man any more. Good player on his day but another one I wouldn't break the bank for.
And why should he take a 50 percent cut? He knows he can get more elsewhere.
He shouldn't, but he's in his 30s and doesn't look quite as good as he once did, so why should the club have him on more money than most of the other players?
Good luck to him if he can get more money elsewhere. Clubs dishing out daft money for 30+ players might explain why EFL clubs on the whole are in so much debt.
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redarmy82,
What claims?
I can't remember word for word, but who had evidence against him, against his takeover bid?
Bit of a blast from the past for someone with a month on the clock.
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redarmy82,
What claims?
I can't remember word for word, but who had evidence against him, against his takeover bid?
Bit of a blast from the past for someone with a month on the clock.
This was posted very recently.
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redarmy82,
What claims?
I can't remember word for word, but who had evidence against him, against his takeover bid?
Bit of a blast from the past for someone with a month on the clock.
This was posted very recently.
I'm sure that's it.
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IF,It was for family reasons,I cannot see how signing for Fleetwood solves them.I got a feeling,he has signed for Fleetwood because as GM said we pulled out after waiting and waiting for him to sign,Leaving him with no club,so signs with the next club who would like him,possibly in a bit of a panic,I even think he may not be getting more or even the same money wise.Only thing I can think of is maybe DA wanted to cut down number of weeks training or wanted to travel to work from a longer distance than Rovers are prepared to allow their players,or something like that.Whatever reason it was,Im not disappointed,I liked him and think his style suited how GM likes his team to play,BUT and it's a big but for me,he is injury prone,I remember when we signed him after he refused a new/extended contract at Grimsby,they had only given him a 1 year contract initially due to their concerns over his long term injury while at Fleetwood previously.Now I also think it a bit of a gamble by Fleetwood now,especially with Barton as manager and their style of physical football,I can see Danny picking up another long term injury there pretty quickly.He has also had 7 clubs and 6 loan spells in 11 years,his longest ever spell being 3 years at
Cheltenham!
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Fleetwood have been tracking him for a long time
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Fleetwood have been tracking him for a long time
If thats the case,then I think it's highly unlikely family reasons.
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He won’t be missed by me. A player we can easily improve on. Great left foot but his all round ability didn’t match it. Poor defender.
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How long has this negotiation been going on then?
We find out today and he's fixed up by now.
He got married in Blackpool and went to Fleetwood on Honeymoon , it was all he could afford on his Rovers wage. :)
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I said all along last season that we needed better at LB be it either Andrew stepping up or a replacement. Yes he improved towards the end of the season but I think his free kicks blinkered his failings.
Not too disappointed he has moved on regardless of circumstances.
Strange move unless he has been offered mega or he has family issues where he needs to be closer.
Alternatively he may be intimidated playing in front of decent sized crowds lol
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Is redarmy82 Dave Parker? lol.
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IF,It was for family reasons,I cannot see how signing for Fleetwood solves them.I got a feeling,he has signed for Fleetwood because as GM said we pulled out after waiting and waiting for him to sign,Leaving him with no club,so signs with the next club who would like him,possibly in a bit of a panic,I even think he may not be getting more or even the same money wise.Only thing I can think of is maybe DA wanted to cut down number of weeks training or wanted to travel to work from a longer distance than Rovers are prepared to allow their players,or something like that.Whatever reason it was,Im not disappointed,I liked him and think his style suited how GM likes his team to play,BUT and it's a big but for me,he is injury prone,I remember when we signed him after he refused a new/extended contract at Grimsby,they had only given him a 1 year contract initially due to their concerns over his long term injury while at Fleetwood previously.Now I also think it a bit of a gamble by Fleetwood now,especially with Barton as manager and their style of physical football,I can see Danny picking up another long term injury there pretty quickly.He has also had 7 clubs and 6 loan spells in 11 years,his longest ever spell being 3 years at
Cheltenham!
You are just making stuff up.
You have no idea whether he will be on less money at Fleetwood than he has been offered by Rovers (although redarmy82 will no doubt know).
As for him wanting to travel long distances to work......well he has been renting a house on a Broadway in Dunscroft..........so that can’t be a reason either.
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IF,It was for family reasons,I cannot see how signing for Fleetwood solves them.I got a feeling,he has signed for Fleetwood because as GM said we pulled out after waiting and waiting for him to sign,Leaving him with no club,so signs with the next club who would like him,possibly in a bit of a panic,I even think he may not be getting more or even the same money wise.Only thing I can think of is maybe DA wanted to cut down number of weeks training or wanted to travel to work from a longer distance than Rovers are prepared to allow their players,or something like that.Whatever reason it was,Im not disappointed,I liked him and think his style suited how GM likes his team to play,BUT and it's a big but for me,he is injury prone,I remember when we signed him after he refused a new/extended contract at Grimsby,they had only given him a 1 year contract initially due to their concerns over his long term injury while at Fleetwood previously.Now I also think it a bit of a gamble by Fleetwood now,especially with Barton as manager and their style of physical football,I can see Danny picking up another long term injury there pretty quickly.He has also had 7 clubs and 6 loan spells in 11 years,his longest ever spell being 3 years at
Cheltenham!
You are just making stuff up.
You have no idea whether he will be on less money at Fleetwood than he has been offered by Rovers (although redarmy82 will no doubt know).
As for him wanting to travel long distances to work......well he has been renting a house on a Broadway in Dunscroft..........so that can’t be a reason either.
You sure about that?
What number?
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IF,It was for family reasons,I cannot see how signing for Fleetwood solves them.I got a feeling,he has signed for Fleetwood because as GM said we pulled out after waiting and waiting for him to sign,Leaving him with no club,so signs with the next club who would like him,possibly in a bit of a panic,I even think he may not be getting more or even the same money wise.Only thing I can think of is maybe DA wanted to cut down number of weeks training or wanted to travel to work from a longer distance than Rovers are prepared to allow their players,or something like that.Whatever reason it was,Im not disappointed,I liked him and think his style suited how GM likes his team to play,BUT and it's a big but for me,he is injury prone,I remember when we signed him after he refused a new/extended contract at Grimsby,they had only given him a 1 year contract initially due to their concerns over his long term injury while at Fleetwood previously.Now I also think it a bit of a gamble by Fleetwood now,especially with Barton as manager and their style of physical football,I can see Danny picking up another long term injury there pretty quickly.He has also had 7 clubs and 6 loan spells in 11 years,his longest ever spell being 3 years at
Cheltenham!
You are just making stuff up.
You have no idea whether he will be on less money at Fleetwood than he has been offered by Rovers (although redarmy82 will no doubt know).
As for him wanting to travel long distances to work......well he has been renting a house on a Broadway in Dunscroft..........so that can’t be a reason either.
You sure about that?
What number?
I know for sure but won’t be giving you the number.
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Anyone seen the Tweet from his wife?
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IF,It was for family reasons,I cannot see how signing for Fleetwood solves them.I got a feeling,he has signed for Fleetwood because as GM said we pulled out after waiting and waiting for him to sign,Leaving him with no club,so signs with the next club who would like him,possibly in a bit of a panic,I even think he may not be getting more or even the same money wise.Only thing I can think of is maybe DA wanted to cut down number of weeks training or wanted to travel to work from a longer distance than Rovers are prepared to allow their players,or something like that.Whatever reason it was,Im not disappointed,I liked him and think his style suited how GM likes his team to play,BUT and it's a big but for me,he is injury prone,I remember when we signed him after he refused a new/extended contract at Grimsby,they had only given him a 1 year contract initially due to their concerns over his long term injury while at Fleetwood previously.Now I also think it a bit of a gamble by Fleetwood now,especially with Barton as manager and their style of physical football,I can see Danny picking up another long term injury there pretty quickly.He has also had 7 clubs and 6 loan spells in 11 years,his longest ever spell being 3 years at
Cheltenham!
You are just making stuff up.
You have no idea whether he will be on less money at Fleetwood than he has been offered by Rovers (although redarmy82 will no doubt know).
As for him wanting to travel long distances to work......well he has been renting a house on a Broadway in Dunscroft..........so that can’t be a reason either.
You sure about that?
What number?
I know for sure but won’t be giving you the number.
Why if he does n’t live there anymore, through my job I know a lot of people on Broadway, I just can’t see him living there, plus on the odd occasion he’s posted pics on Twitter the house is definetly not one on Broadway
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IF,It was for family reasons,I cannot see how signing for Fleetwood solves them.I got a feeling,he has signed for Fleetwood because as GM said we pulled out after waiting and waiting for him to sign,Leaving him with no club,so signs with the next club who would like him,possibly in a bit of a panic,I even think he may not be getting more or even the same money wise.Only thing I can think of is maybe DA wanted to cut down number of weeks training or wanted to travel to work from a longer distance than Rovers are prepared to allow their players,or something like that.Whatever reason it was,Im not disappointed,I liked him and think his style suited how GM likes his team to play,BUT and it's a big but for me,he is injury prone,I remember when we signed him after he refused a new/extended contract at Grimsby,they had only given him a 1 year contract initially due to their concerns over his long term injury while at Fleetwood previously.Now I also think it a bit of a gamble by Fleetwood now,especially with Barton as manager and their style of physical football,I can see Danny picking up another long term injury there pretty quickly.He has also had 7 clubs and 6 loan spells in 11 years,his longest ever spell being 3 years at
Cheltenham!
You are just making stuff up.
You have no idea whether he will be on less money at Fleetwood than he has been offered by Rovers (although redarmy82 will no doubt know).
As for him wanting to travel long distances to work......well he has been renting a house on a Broadway in Dunscroft..........so that can’t be a reason either.
No wonder he’s on his way then
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IF,It was for family reasons,I cannot see how signing for Fleetwood solves them.I got a feeling,he has signed for Fleetwood because as GM said we pulled out after waiting and waiting for him to sign,Leaving him with no club,so signs with the next club who would like him,possibly in a bit of a panic,I even think he may not be getting more or even the same money wise.Only thing I can think of is maybe DA wanted to cut down number of weeks training or wanted to travel to work from a longer distance than Rovers are prepared to allow their players,or something like that.Whatever reason it was,Im not disappointed,I liked him and think his style suited how GM likes his team to play,BUT and it's a big but for me,he is injury prone,I remember when we signed him after he refused a new/extended contract at Grimsby,they had only given him a 1 year contract initially due to their concerns over his long term injury while at Fleetwood previously.Now I also think it a bit of a gamble by Fleetwood now,especially with Barton as manager and their style of physical football,I can see Danny picking up another long term injury there pretty quickly.He has also had 7 clubs and 6 loan spells in 11 years,his longest ever spell being 3 years at
Cheltenham!
You are just making stuff up.
You have no idea whether he will be on less money at Fleetwood than he has been offered by Rovers (although redarmy82 will no doubt know).
As for him wanting to travel long distances to work......well he has been renting a house on a Broadway in Dunscroft..........so that can’t be a reason either.
You sure about that?
What number?
I know for sure but won’t be giving you the number.
Why if he does n’t live there anymore, through my job I know a lot of people on Broadway, I just can’t see him living there, plus on the odd occasion he’s posted pics on Twitter the house is definetly not one on Broadway
Believe me or not, it doesn’t matter.
I know what I know Filo.
I was as surprised as you obviously are.
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Anyone seen the Tweet from his wife?
Care to elaborate ?
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Lots of cryptic ITK folks round here at the moment.
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Lots of nudge nudge wink wink stuff on here. We're in the know and we're going to treat you with a little morsel of information and then get arsey if you ask for anymore.
Well, to eradicate any uncertainty, I can categorically state that I don't know anyone at the club, no players, no staff or their families and friends. I don't get to hear any rumours of off the record chats. In fact, the last Rovers player I spoke to was Mark Rankine in Oscars bar in 1989. I know nothing. Zilch.
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Lots of nudge nudge wink wink stuff on here. We're in the know and we're going to treat you with a little morsel of information and then get arsey if you ask for anymore.
Well, to eradicate any uncertainty, I can categorically state that I don't know anyone at the club, no players, no staff or their families and friends. I don't get to hear any rumours of off the record chats. In fact, the last Rovers player I spoke to was Mark Rankine in Oscars bar in 1989. I know nothing. Zilch.
You need to get out more often 😀
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Danny Andrew has now said himself that basically the story from McCann isn’t true.
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Danny Andrew has now said himself that basically the story from McCann isn’t true.
I’m not saying there isn’t two sides to every story but he’s unlikely to come out and admit him and his agent got greedy
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Danny Andrew has now said himself that basically the story from McCann isn’t true.
And there we have it.
People can believe who they want.
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To be honest, he's gone we move on. There will be better left-backs out there and there will be worse. We'll get one or the other but, in the grand scheme of things, he's far from irreplaceable. Should Marquis and/or Whiteman move on, they would be harder to cover for but they are topics for other days.
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He is no longer a rovers player. Bye to him. Why do people spout crap on here about budgets, players leaving, etc. It was like it last year and the year before.
If I showed my son the rubbish written on here he would not support the team.
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Maybe...… Just maybe ……... he really liked Fleetwood area and decided to go back to play for them again.
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crikey GM doesn't take no prisoners does he...
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-this-was-the-best-season-in-danny-andrews-career-grant-mccann-aggrieved-over-circumstances-of-full-backs-departure-171884
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crikey GM doesn't take no prisoners does he...
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-this-was-the-best-season-in-danny-andrews-career-grant-mccann-aggrieved-over-circumstances-of-full-backs-departure-171884
I hope some of our posters also read the article in which GM urges the fans to stay calm.
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I’m not sure making all this sort of stuff public is the right thing to do.
It’s kike we’re trying to justify what’s happened by criticising the player and bringing up things that happened behind closed doors.
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Lots of nudge nudge wink wink stuff on here. We're in the know and we're going to treat you with a little morsel of information and then get arsey if you ask for anymore.
Well, to eradicate any uncertainty, I can categorically state that I don't know anyone at the club, no players, no staff or their families and friends. I don't get to hear any rumours of off the record chats. In fact, the last Rovers player I spoke to was Mark Rankine in Oscars bar in 1989. I know nothing. Zilch.
I think it's safe to say I know even less than you. Although I did speak to Jamie Price in Morrison's in Beverley when he was a Rovers player. I definitely need to get out more!
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I’m not sure making all this sort of stuff public is the right thing to do.
It’s kike we’re trying to justify what’s happened by criticising the player and bringing up things that happened behind closed doors.
Like the endless speculation and lamenting of Fergie's departure? I agree. We move on.
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Anyone seen the Tweet from his wife?
What does it say?
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Anyone seen the Tweet from his wife?
What does it say?
Not to believe the press story. It has since been deleted, although Andrew has himself Tweeted something similar.
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Anyone seen the Tweet from his wife?
What does it say?
Not to believe the press story. It has since been deleted, although Andrew has himself Tweeted something similar.
Needs some substance to counter the Clubs story
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Bang average left back at 29 signs for a club closer to his wife's home town shortly after they marry shocker. A spokesman says his new wife might influence his decision making.
An expert gave this advice: "Sign someone just as good if not better and move on"
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IF,It was for family reasons,I cannot see how signing for Fleetwood solves them.I got a feeling,he has signed for Fleetwood because as GM said we pulled out after waiting and waiting for him to sign,Leaving him with no club,so signs with the next club who would like him,possibly in a bit of a panic,I even think he may not be getting more or even the same money wise.Only thing I can think of is maybe DA wanted to cut down number of weeks training or wanted to travel to work from a longer distance than Rovers are prepared to allow their players,or something like that.Whatever reason it was,Im not disappointed,I liked him and think his style suited how GM likes his team to play,BUT and it's a big but for me,he is injury prone,I remember when we signed him after he refused a new/extended contract at Grimsby,they had only given him a 1 year contract initially due to their concerns over his long term injury while at Fleetwood previously.Now I also think it a bit of a gamble by Fleetwood now,especially with Barton as manager and their style of physical football,I can see Danny picking up another long term injury there pretty quickly.He has also had 7 clubs and 6 loan spells in 11 years,his longest ever spell being 3 years at
Cheltenham!
You are just making stuff up.
You have no idea whether he will be on less money at Fleetwood than he has been offered by Rovers (although redarmy82 will no doubt know).
As for him wanting to travel long distances to work......well he has been renting a house on a Broadway in Dunscroft..........so that can’t be a reason either.
Not making it up Hound,I said I got a feeling,never said Its true about the wages,I have no idea if it is true,but going on from more recent posts,distance from his family and work does seem to be his side of the story.
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Pussy whipped. End of story. I like Danny Andrew but he’s signed for an awful set of people, so he’s made his bed.
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Pussy whipped. End of story. I like Danny Andrew but he’s signed for an awful set of people, so he’s made his bed.
Until he trains his new wife to make it...... :thumbsup:
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I’m not sure making all this sort of stuff public is the right thing to do.
It’s kike we’re trying to justify what’s happened by criticising the player and bringing up things that happened behind closed doors.
But isn't that just what a lot of posters want?
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I’m not sure making all this sort of stuff public is the right thing to do.
It’s kike we’re trying to justify what’s happened by criticising the player and bringing up things that happened behind closed doors.
But isn't that just what a lot of posters want?
People were going crazy last year that nothing was coming out of the club so we didn't know where we stood so i suppose now at least everyone knows. Hasn't stopped minor hysteria. Personally i preferred it when a signing came out the blue, it meant we didn't get excited for no reason like with Newell
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Back in the 60's it took days or weeks for rumours to circulate and die.
It seemed a lot better then. Plus less stressful.
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Well he’s posted on Instagram thanking his agent lol.
Either he’s thick as shit or he genuinely is been paid more there than offered here.
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I’m not sure making all this sort of stuff public is the right thing to do.
It’s kike we’re trying to justify what’s happened by criticising the player and bringing up things that happened behind closed doors.
But isn't that just what a lot of posters want?
People were going crazy last year that nothing was coming out of the club so we didn't know where we stood so i suppose now at least everyone knows. Hasn't stopped minor hysteria. Personally i preferred it when a signing came out the blue, it meant we didn't get excited for no reason like with Newell
I’m more talking about McCann saying he wanted a new left back to replace Andrew a few weeks after taking over and how he couldn’t play how McCann wanted him to.
Just looks a tad like sour grapes
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I’m not sure making all this sort of stuff public is the right thing to do.
It’s kike we’re trying to justify what’s happened by criticising the player and bringing up things that happened behind closed doors.
But isn't that just what a lot of posters want?
People were going crazy last year that nothing was coming out of the club so we didn't know where we stood so i suppose now at least everyone knows. Hasn't stopped minor hysteria. Personally i preferred it when a signing came out the blue, it meant we didn't get excited for no reason like with Newell
I’m more talking about McCann saying he wanted a new left back to replace Andrew a few weeks after taking over and how he couldn’t play how McCann wanted him to.
Just looks a tad like sour grapes
I agree Dickos.
There is no need for him to say stuff like that.
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He also says Andrew ended up one of best left backs in the league.
I think he said it more to emphasise how much DRFC have helped DA rather than slagging him off
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8 pages for a bang average left back who’s had a good back end to the season, we’ve lost miles better players in previous seasons and fans haven’t battered an eyelid.
Glad he’s gone we can move on and get someone else in who knows they might do a better job
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I’m not sure making all this sort of stuff public is the right thing to do.
It’s kike we’re trying to justify what’s happened by criticising the player and bringing up things that happened behind closed doors.
So what’s GM supposed to do or say. Nothing?
Then you will be claiming no information is being transmitted to supporters.
Do you think GM is lying about Andrews. Well for me reading between the lines Andrews has got a greedy Agent. GM was quite right to tell us why Andrews has gone imo.
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Free press reporting the new left back could be done today, that would be nice.
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Lots of nudge nudge wink wink stuff on here. We're in the know and we're going to treat you with a little morsel of information and then get arsey if you ask for anymore.
Well, to eradicate any uncertainty, I can categorically state that I don't know anyone at the club, no players, no staff or their families and friends. I don't get to hear any rumours of off the record chats. In fact, the last Rovers player I spoke to was Mark Rankine in Oscars bar in 1989. I know nothing. Zilch.
I think it's safe to say I know even less than you. Although I did speak to Jamie Price in Morrison's in Beverley when he was a Rovers player. I definitely need to get out more!
Are you sure that wasn't Jason Price, as he used to live round the corner from there? :D
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I’m not sure making all this sort of stuff public is the right thing to do.
It’s kike we’re trying to justify what’s happened by criticising the player and bringing up things that happened behind closed doors.
So what’s GM supposed to do or say. Nothing?
Then you will be claiming no information is being transmitted to supporters.
Do you think GM is lying about Andrews. Well for me reading between the lines Andrews has got a greedy Agent. GM was quite right to tell us why Andrews has gone imo.
The two players he felt he’d signed in Andrew and Newell and I appreciate he wanted, he’s come out publicly about the players negatively. He’s a professional, first he should not put it out in the public domain that we were close to both. It’s about time until players are signed he does not let it get into the public domain via local press.
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I’m not sure making all this sort of stuff public is the right thing to do.
It’s kike we’re trying to justify what’s happened by criticising the player and bringing up things that happened behind closed doors.
So what’s GM supposed to do or say. Nothing?
Then you will be claiming no information is being transmitted to supporters.
Do you think GM is lying about Andrews. Well for me reading between the lines Andrews has got a greedy Agent. GM was quite right to tell us why Andrews has gone imo.
The two players he felt he’d signed in Andrew and Newell and I appreciate he wanted, he’s come out publicly about the players negatively. He’s a professional, first he should not put it out in the public domain that we were close to both. It’s about time until players are signed he does not let it get into the public domain via local press.
I do agree with that. Maybe Gavin or someone should suggest it'd help get deals over the line if we kept quite
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I’m not sure making all this sort of stuff public is the right thing to do.
It’s kike we’re trying to justify what’s happened by criticising the player and bringing up things that happened behind closed doors.
So what’s GM supposed to do or say. Nothing?
Then you will be claiming no information is being transmitted to supporters.
Do you think GM is lying about Andrews. Well for me reading between the lines Andrews has got a greedy Agent. GM was quite right to tell us why Andrews has gone imo.
To be fair, I have seen and heard loads of times, when a key person leaves a business for a competitor, the Company that he left have started slagging him off and telling everyone that he was rubbish etc.
This situation with McCann and Andrew (why do people call him Andrews by the way) reminds me so much of it.
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Who is Danny Andrew ? Doesn’t even play for us, so why are people wasting their time on him. He was with us, now he is not. Let’s move on for god sake
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Who is Danny Andrew ? Doesn’t even play for us, so why are people wasting their time on him. He was with us, now he is not. Let’s move on for god sake
Yeah coz we never talk about Paul Green, Michael McIndoe, Laurie Sheffield, Brian Stock, Richie Wellens etc etc etc.
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One of the very first things they advise people not to do, in an interview, is slag off the Company you last worked for.
What GM has done with one or two this last few weeks is similar and I thought he was above such things. Anyway, he's said what he has and that's that, so we move on. He will learn from this summer.
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He (McCann) does seem to be behaving and speaking differently this summer than he has done in the past.
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I’m not sure making all this sort of stuff public is the right thing to do.
It’s kike we’re trying to justify what’s happened by criticising the player and bringing up things that happened behind closed doors.
So what’s GM supposed to do or say. Nothing?
Then you will be claiming no information is being transmitted to supporters.
Do you think GM is lying about Andrews. Well for me reading between the lines Andrews has got a greedy Agent. GM was quite right to tell us why Andrews has gone imo.
I’ve no qualms about him saying what happened with the contract offer.
But in my opinion now he’s left he shouldn’t be coming to the press and revealing all this stuff about him not being very good when he came and he went to the board asking for him to be replaced.
There’s no reason at all why fans should know that, and it looks like he’s doing what fans do when a player leaves and start saying he wasn’t very good.
It’s a bit embarrassing that the manager is doing it
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Yes we talk about old players but 8 pages worth, no.
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Yes we talk about old players but 8 pages worth, no.
That is probably because DA divided opinion with the fans.
Some liked him and some didn’t.
Also some of us don’t like what McCann has been saying.
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I like DA. I like GM. However no one knows what actually got said or happened and what was said in the press, is all true I suppose
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I like DA. I like GM. However no one knows what actually got said or happened and what was said in the press, is all true I suppose
An old Chinese proverb is “ don’t believe all you read in the paper”.
I made up the bit about a Chinese proverb.
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Just catching up with this thread..
What really makes my piss boil is posters claiming to be in the know, give snippets of information with no detail nor substance, and don’t back up their arguments..
Put up, or shut up..
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8 pages for a bang average left back who’s had a good back end to the season, we’ve lost miles better players in previous seasons and fans haven’t battered an eyelid.
Glad he’s gone we can move on and get someone else in who knows they might do a better job
10 pages on the Sunderland forum about Reece James. Very mixed reviews of him!
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Mixed reviews from our fans on DA. But he is no longer with us.
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Just catching up with this thread..
What really makes my piss boil is posters claiming to be in the know, give snippets of information with no detail nor substance, and don’t back up their arguments..
Put up, or shut up..
Agreed. It's like we have to have an inquest about every player that leaves. It's football for gods sake. Who really cares what was said or not. Every manager has his own assessment of players and their worth. We have no reason to believe McCann isn't an honourable man and if he felt he was let down in anyway by the actions of player or agent, then he is within his rights to respond to questions when asked by the press. What he said wasn't scathing criticism but is a reflection of what alot of us assessed about Andrew's performances throughout the season.
Yesterday's chip paper. Move on.
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8 pages for a bang average left back who’s had a good back end to the season, we’ve lost miles better players in previous seasons and fans haven’t battered an eyelid.
Glad he’s gone we can move on and get someone else in who knows they might do a better job
10 pages on the Sunderland forum about Reece James. Very mixed reviews of him!
In fairness ten pages on a Sunderland board is probably the equivalent of 3 pages on our board with the volume of posters and views they probably have.
Not that it matters anyway, it’s what the forums for I guess. I don’t mind and do enjoy the constructive debates and varying opinions, it’s the bitching and arguing that spoils forums like this.
Good luck to Danny though, he wasn’t spectacular by any means but I wouldn’t say he was poor either. It’s a short career at the end of the day and he’s got to do what’s right for him and his family, money will always play a big part in any persons career regardless of the profession.
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I'm glad we didn't have the internet when Rankine, Brevett and Noteman were flogged along with Bruno colliding with a baseball bat.
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Could you imagine the same with Snods too Nudga
Did the baseball bat ever recover
Did remembered our player who got shot too there would have been pages on that speculating