Danny Andrew

[pib]

Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.

This.

Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.

I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.

Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.

Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.

How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.

Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.

And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.

Don't think you have said, so it's nice to actually hear something from you.

If it's family concerns then why are you whinging about budgets and the club not offering him an acceptable salary?

[drfchound]

Red army, do you live on Broadway?

No, I lived on the  upper West Side when I lived in NYC

I mean Broadway, the road in Dunscroft.

[silent majority]

Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.

This.

Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.

I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.

Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.

Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.

How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.

Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.

And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.

Why don't you just spit it out? You've been dancing around the topic and dropping veiled hints all evening.

[redarmy82]

Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.

This.

Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.

I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.

Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.

Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.

How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.

Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.

And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.

Don't think you have said, so it's nice to actually hear something from you.

If it's family concerns then why are you whinging about budgets and the club not offering him an acceptable salary?

With the case of Rowe it was money. More than a 50 percent cut on his old contract.

[Retdon1]

Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.

This.

Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.

I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.

Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.

Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.

How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.

I suggest you read this https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-explains-why-he-pulled-plug-on-danny-andrew-contract-talks-162815?amp&__twitter_impression=true

No offence but I think I believe the words of McCann then yourself who hasn’t provided any evidence to any of your claims

I don't have to prove anything. I've been told from the horses mouth the reason he turned us down. If people want to believe the crap the club keeps putting out, that's up to them.

Again you provide no proof what so ever. Anyone can sit at a keyboard and type made up stuff.

[Retdon1]

Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.

This.

Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.

I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.

Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.

Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.

How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.

Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.

And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.

Don't think you have said, so it's nice to actually hear something from you.

If it's family concerns then why are you whinging about budgets and the club not offering him an acceptable salary?

With the case of Rowe it was money. More than a 50 percent cut on his old contract.

Most fans would agree with a cut in rowes wages. When we signed him, he was our marquee signing. Where as now he’s a squad player with a less than average injury record

[redarmy82]

Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.

This.

Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.

I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.

Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.

Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.

How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.

I suggest you read this https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-explains-why-he-pulled-plug-on-danny-andrew-contract-talks-162815?amp&__twitter_impression=true

No offence but I think I believe the words of McCann then yourself who hasn’t provided any evidence to any of your claims

I don't have to prove anything. I've been told from the horses mouth the reason he turned us down. If people want to believe the crap the club keeps putting out, that's up to them.

Again you provide no proof what so ever. Anyone can sit at a keyboard and type made up stuff.

Maybe the fact I posted the he'd gone six hours before the press had got wind of it.

The only proof you're ever going to get is if Andrew comes out with it himself, but then you'd only say he's talking shit, so what's the point?

[drfchound]

Red army, do you live on Broadway?

No, I lived on the  upper West Side when I lived in NYC

I mean Broadway, the road in Dunscroft.

Well, do you?

[redarmy82]

Red army, do you live on Broadway?

No, I lived on the  upper West Side when I lived in NYC

I mean Broadway, the road in Dunscroft.

Well, do you?

No, I do not live in Dunscroft. I live in High Melton.

[silent majority]

Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.

This.

Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.

I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.

Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.

Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.

How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.

I suggest you read this https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-explains-why-he-pulled-plug-on-danny-andrew-contract-talks-162815?amp&__twitter_impression=true

No offence but I think I believe the words of McCann then yourself who hasn’t provided any evidence to any of your claims

I don't have to prove anything. I've been told from the horses mouth the reason he turned us down. If people want to believe the crap the club keeps putting out, that's up to them.

Again you provide no proof what so ever. Anyone can sit at a keyboard and type made up stuff.

Maybe the fact I posted the he'd gone six hours before the press had got wind of it.

The only proof you're ever going to get is if Andrew comes out with it himself, but then you'd only say he's talking shit, so what's the point?

The club cut off talks with DA over a week ago, so being 6 hours ahead of the press means nothing. The club made a statement tonight because Fleetwood intended to make an announcement. Our club (I'm assuming it's yours too) wanted the information to come from them.

[pib]

Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.

This.

Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.

I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.

Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.

Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.

How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.

Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.

And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.

Don't think you have said, so it's nice to actually hear something from you.

If it's family concerns then why are you whinging about budgets and the club not offering him an acceptable salary?

With the case of Rowe it was money. More than a 50 percent cut on his old contract.

As someone else has since touched on, Rowe wasn't worth more money. He wasn't the main man any more. Good player on his day but another one I wouldn't break the bank for.

[redarmy82]

Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.

This.

Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.

I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.

Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.

Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.

How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.

I suggest you read this https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-grant-mccann-explains-why-he-pulled-plug-on-danny-andrew-contract-talks-162815?amp&__twitter_impression=true

No offence but I think I believe the words of McCann then yourself who hasn’t provided any evidence to any of your claims

I don't have to prove anything. I've been told from the horses mouth the reason he turned us down. If people want to believe the crap the club keeps putting out, that's up to them.

Again you provide no proof what so ever. Anyone can sit at a keyboard and type made up stuff.

Maybe the fact I posted the he'd gone six hours before the press had got wind of it.

The only proof you're ever going to get is if Andrew comes out with it himself, but then you'd only say he's talking shit, so what's the point?

The club cut off talks with DA over a week ago, so being 6 hours ahead of the press means nothing. The club made a statement tonight because Fleetwood intended to make an announcement. Our club (I'm assuming it's yours too) wanted the information to come from them.

I can't ever remember you posting proof of any of your claims? Like all the JR stuff. Where is it?

[redarmy82]

Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.

This.

Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.

I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.

Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.

Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.

How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.

Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.

And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.

Don't think you have said, so it's nice to actually hear something from you.

If it's family concerns then why are you whinging about budgets and the club not offering him an acceptable salary?

With the case of Rowe it was money. More than a 50 percent cut on his old contract.

As someone else has since touched on, Rowe wasn't worth more money. He wasn't the main man any more. Good player on his day but another one I wouldn't break the bank for.

And why should he take a 50 percent cut? He knows he can get more elsewhere.

[silent majority]

redarmy82,

What claims?

[redarmy82]

redarmy82,

What claims?

I can't remember word for word, but who had evidence against him, against his takeover bid?

[Rovers Return]

redarmy82,

What claims?

I can't remember word for word, but who had evidence against him, against his takeover bid?

YAWN 😴😴😴

[pib]

Is McCann that good any fool can say no, it's the easy way out. The trick is to have good negotiating skills, make people feel they are needed, rewarding effort is also necessary. All things and people are not equal.
Marosi butler Rowe Downing Andrew and Marquis to go and maybe whitehead. Yep he's good.

This.

Not quite this is it really, when he was reportedly offered much more than he was on. I think that's very good reward for effort, especially when one season was missed through injury and most of the second season was only marginally above average.

I really don't get all the whining. I liked Andrew and wanted him to do well for us but he's not THAT good. I'd be disappointed if we panicked and shelled out a big percentage of the budget on him.

Similar applies to Rowe albeit he didn't spend quite as much time injured and was actually one of our better players on his day.

Marosi another one who seemed to think he was worth much more money when actually, for all his potential, he ended up costing us almost as many games as he won us last season.

How do you know what we offered was acceptable? Maybe we've offered a lot less than other clubs are prepared to?
you don't.

Don't think I said that did I? McCann said we offered much more than he was on and would've been one of the best paid full backs in L1. If that ain't good enough for him then Fleetwood are welcome to him cos he ain't that good.

And as I said, Andrew has a different version, namely family concerns. But there you go.

Don't think you have said, so it's nice to actually hear something from you.

If it's family concerns then why are you whinging about budgets and the club not offering him an acceptable salary?

With the case of Rowe it was money. More than a 50 percent cut on his old contract.

As someone else has since touched on, Rowe wasn't worth more money. He wasn't the main man any more. Good player on his day but another one I wouldn't break the bank for.

And why should he take a 50 percent cut? He knows he can get more elsewhere.

He shouldn't, but he's in his 30s and doesn't look quite as good as he once did, so why should the club have him on more money than most of the other players?

Good luck to him if he can get more money elsewhere. Clubs dishing out daft money for 30+ players might explain why EFL clubs on the whole are in so much debt.

[vaya]

redarmy82,

What claims?

I can't remember word for word, but who had evidence against him, against his takeover bid?

Bit of a blast from the past for someone with a month on the clock.

[redarmy82]

redarmy82,

What claims?

I can't remember word for word, but who had evidence against him, against his takeover bid?

Bit of a blast from the past for someone with a month on the clock.

This was posted very recently.

[vaya]

redarmy82,

What claims?

I can't remember word for word, but who had evidence against him, against his takeover bid?

Bit of a blast from the past for someone with a month on the clock.

This was posted very recently.

I'm sure that's it.

[Drover]

IF,It was for family reasons,I cannot see how signing for Fleetwood solves them.I got a feeling,he has signed for Fleetwood because as GM said we pulled out after waiting and waiting for him to sign,Leaving him with no club,so signs with the next club who would like him,possibly in a bit of a panic,I even think he may not be getting more or even the same money wise.Only thing I can think of is maybe DA wanted to cut down number of weeks training or wanted to travel to work from a longer distance than Rovers are prepared to allow  their players,or something like that.Whatever reason it was,Im not disappointed,I liked him and think his style suited how GM likes his team to play,BUT and it's a big but for me,he is injury prone,I remember when we signed him after he refused a new/extended contract at Grimsby,they had only given him a 1 year contract initially due to their concerns over his long term injury while at Fleetwood previously.Now I also think it a bit of a gamble by Fleetwood now,especially with Barton as manager and their style of physical football,I can see Danny picking up another long term injury there pretty quickly.He has also had 7 clubs and 6 loan spells in 11 years,his longest ever spell being 3 years at
Cheltenham!

[dickos1]

Fleetwood have been tracking him for a long time

[Drover]

Fleetwood have been tracking him for a long time

If thats the case,then I think it's highly unlikely family reasons.

[GazLaz]

He won’t be missed by me. A player we can easily improve on. Great left foot but his all round ability didn’t match it. Poor defender.

[eastender]

How long has this negotiation been going on then?
We find out today and he's fixed up by now.

He got married in Blackpool and went to Fleetwood on Honeymoon , it was all he could afford on his Rovers wage. 

[roversdude]

I said all along last season that we needed better at LB be it either Andrew stepping up or a replacement. Yes he improved towards the end of the season but I think his free kicks blinkered his failings.
Not too disappointed he has moved on regardless of circumstances.
Strange move unless he has been offered mega or he has family issues where he needs to be closer.
Alternatively he may be intimidated playing in front of decent sized crowds lol

[PDX_Rover]

Is redarmy82 Dave Parker? lol.

[drfchound]

IF,It was for family reasons,I cannot see how signing for Fleetwood solves them.I got a feeling,he has signed for Fleetwood because as GM said we pulled out after waiting and waiting for him to sign,Leaving him with no club,so signs with the next club who would like him,possibly in a bit of a panic,I even think he may not be getting more or even the same money wise.Only thing I can think of is maybe DA wanted to cut down number of weeks training or wanted to travel to work from a longer distance than Rovers are prepared to allow  their players,or something like that.Whatever reason it was,Im not disappointed,I liked him and think his style suited how GM likes his team to play,BUT and it's a big but for me,he is injury prone,I remember when we signed him after he refused a new/extended contract at Grimsby,they had only given him a 1 year contract initially due to their concerns over his long term injury while at Fleetwood previously.Now I also think it a bit of a gamble by Fleetwood now,especially with Barton as manager and their style of physical football,I can see Danny picking up another long term injury there pretty quickly.He has also had 7 clubs and 6 loan spells in 11 years,his longest ever spell being 3 years at
Cheltenham!

You are just making stuff up.
You have no idea whether he will be on less money at Fleetwood than he has been offered by Rovers (although redarmy82 will no doubt know).
As for him wanting to travel long distances to work......well he has been renting a house on a Broadway in Dunscroft..........so that can’t be a reason either.

[Filo]

IF,It was for family reasons,I cannot see how signing for Fleetwood solves them.I got a feeling,he has signed for Fleetwood because as GM said we pulled out after waiting and waiting for him to sign,Leaving him with no club,so signs with the next club who would like him,possibly in a bit of a panic,I even think he may not be getting more or even the same money wise.Only thing I can think of is maybe DA wanted to cut down number of weeks training or wanted to travel to work from a longer distance than Rovers are prepared to allow  their players,or something like that.Whatever reason it was,Im not disappointed,I liked him and think his style suited how GM likes his team to play,BUT and it's a big but for me,he is injury prone,I remember when we signed him after he refused a new/extended contract at Grimsby,they had only given him a 1 year contract initially due to their concerns over his long term injury while at Fleetwood previously.Now I also think it a bit of a gamble by Fleetwood now,especially with Barton as manager and their style of physical football,I can see Danny picking up another long term injury there pretty quickly.He has also had 7 clubs and 6 loan spells in 11 years,his longest ever spell being 3 years at
Cheltenham!

You are just making stuff up.
You have no idea whether he will be on less money at Fleetwood than he has been offered by Rovers (although redarmy82 will no doubt know).
As for him wanting to travel long distances to work......well he has been renting a house on a Broadway in Dunscroft..........so that can’t be a reason either.

You sure about that?

What number?

[drfchound]

IF,It was for family reasons,I cannot see how signing for Fleetwood solves them.I got a feeling,he has signed for Fleetwood because as GM said we pulled out after waiting and waiting for him to sign,Leaving him with no club,so signs with the next club who would like him,possibly in a bit of a panic,I even think he may not be getting more or even the same money wise.Only thing I can think of is maybe DA wanted to cut down number of weeks training or wanted to travel to work from a longer distance than Rovers are prepared to allow  their players,or something like that.Whatever reason it was,Im not disappointed,I liked him and think his style suited how GM likes his team to play,BUT and it's a big but for me,he is injury prone,I remember when we signed him after he refused a new/extended contract at Grimsby,they had only given him a 1 year contract initially due to their concerns over his long term injury while at Fleetwood previously.Now I also think it a bit of a gamble by Fleetwood now,especially with Barton as manager and their style of physical football,I can see Danny picking up another long term injury there pretty quickly.He has also had 7 clubs and 6 loan spells in 11 years,his longest ever spell being 3 years at
Cheltenham!

You are just making stuff up.
You have no idea whether he will be on less money at Fleetwood than he has been offered by Rovers (although redarmy82 will no doubt know).
As for him wanting to travel long distances to work......well he has been renting a house on a Broadway in Dunscroft..........so that can’t be a reason either.

You sure about that?

What number?

I know for sure but won’t be giving you the number.