Post by: Guernsey Exile on January 14, 2020, 12:23:53 pm
8pm
https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2020/january/dates-confirmed-for-burton-and-doncaster-fixtures/
Post by: RobTheRover on January 14, 2020, 12:31:53 pm
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Post by: philsky on January 14, 2020, 12:46:47 pm
23rd March
8pm
https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2020/january/dates-confirmed-for-burton-and-doncaster-fixtures/
24th rather than 23rd ?
Post by: adamtherover on January 14, 2020, 12:50:31 pm
They could be already relegated by then?or even sweeter,it could be the game to confirm their relegation.
im surprised that the EFL has actually finally made a decision about this game when the points could have a bearing on the final league table, but boy, how sweet would it be if this game relegated Bolton.
After the hearing's verdict was announced, every 2nd comment on the BWFC twitter feed was about how rovers fans were just whiny little b*tches!!! Please god, let karma run its course!!!!!
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 14, 2020, 01:45:41 pm
23rd March
8pm
https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2020/january/dates-confirmed-for-burton-and-doncaster-fixtures/
24th rather than 23rd ?
Which is Truth And Justice Memorial Day in Argentina. Presumably you'd only have a Memorial if Truth and Justice were dead...
https://www.officeholidays.com/calendars/2020/03/23
Post by: 5 on Tour on January 14, 2020, 02:17:22 pm
Post by: Frankie Rennie on January 14, 2020, 03:01:34 pm
Post by: Campsall rover on January 14, 2020, 03:07:20 pm
Post by: 5 on Tour on January 14, 2020, 03:07:59 pm
Don’t worry guys, we’ll be well and truly down by then so you won’t be celebrating our demise. It could though be us denying you a place in the play offs so I wouldn’t get too cocky if I were you!! 😉
We aren’t looking as low down the table as the play offs. You mean automatic promotion I assume? 😂
Post by: Surrey Rover on January 14, 2020, 04:18:12 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/doncaster-rovers/scores-fixtures/2020-03
Post by: adamtherover on January 14, 2020, 05:19:49 pm
Post by: Frankie Rennie on January 14, 2020, 05:28:48 pm
Don’t worry guys, we’ll be well and truly down by then so you won’t be celebrating our demise. It could though be us denying you a place in the play offs so I wouldn’t get too cocky if I were you!! 😉
We aren’t looking as low down the table as the play offs. You mean automatic promotion I assume? 😂
Ha ha very funny 5 on Tour. I wish you luck with that, you’ll need it but whatever we deprived you of it would maybe be some kind of reward for the over the top abuse you’ve fired at Wanderers.
Post by: drfchound on January 14, 2020, 05:35:40 pm
Should be a lovely friendly atmosphere.
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 14, 2020, 05:47:25 pm
Don’t worry guys, we’ll be well and truly down by then so you won’t be celebrating our demise. It could though be us denying you a place in the play offs so I wouldn’t get too cocky if I were you!! 😉
We aren’t looking as low down the table as the play offs. You mean automatic promotion I assume? 😂
Ha ha very funny 5 on Tour. I wish you luck with that, you’ll need it but whatever we deprived you of it would maybe be some kind of reward for the over the top abuse you’ve fired at Wanderers.
Are you still maintaining there was no EFL rule existing so you couldn't have broken one, like you were the other day?
Post by: Reesielad on January 14, 2020, 05:50:54 pm
Don’t worry guys, we’ll be well and truly down by then so you won’t be celebrating our demise. It could though be us denying you a place in the play offs so I wouldn’t get too cocky if I were you!!
We aren’t looking as low down the table as the play offs. You mean automatic promotion I assume?
Ha ha very funny 5 on Tour. I wish you luck with that, you’ll need it but whatever we deprived you of it would maybe be some kind of reward for the over the top abuse you’ve fired at Wanderers.
You won’t be depriving us of anything Frankie.
Get real, you have an absolute tactically inept buffoon masquerading as a football manager and barely any players good enough for this level.
Your massive fan base has just celebrated signing a non league striker signed from Enfield.
I wish you luck for the season, you are the ones who will need it.
As for abuse, I think you’ll find if you search twitter, the abuse is pretty much one way. Go argue with Wigan and Preston. We have our own rivals, thanks.
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Post by: Frankie Rennie on January 14, 2020, 07:24:32 pm
We were out of order over our game and I agree you should have had the 3 points but obviously the EFL decided otherwise. My point though is that nobody now at the club were responsible yet are left to suffer for it so really your animosity to our club is unfortunate. It was mainly Parkinson’s fault the game was hooked and of course he cleared off after the event without penalty. Never mind I am looking forward to the game and hope it can be played in good spirit and also the game at your place which I’ll also be at.
Post by: Reesielad on January 14, 2020, 07:34:46 pm
Can’t disagree with much there Reesilad, we are utter rubbish at the moment and yes we will need lots of luck just to survive. I won’t even try to defend the morons that inhabit Twitter and Facebook or the abuse they’ve thrown around but in fairness you have plenty of your own the other way. In between the banter, I do genuinely wish you luck this season, I actually like your new manager, who I thought was badly treated at WBA, and the job he’s doing.
We were out of order over our game and I agree you should have had the 3 points but obviously the EFL decided otherwise. My point though is that nobody now at the club were responsible yet are left to suffer for it so really your animosity to our club is unfortunate. It was mainly Parkinson’s fault the game was hooked and of course he cleared off after the event without penalty. Never mind I am looking forward to the game and hope it can be played in good spirit and also the game at your place which I’ll also be at.
A lot of the Doncaster fans have only retaliated to the abuse we have taken from Bolton since the game that never was, through no fault of our own, wasn’t played.
Not a single Doncaster fan would of cared about Bolton, and if I’m honest, being a club that has survived such turmoil, we would of done nothing but wish you well. We even cancelled the contract of a decent squad player so he could sign for you. Even still, your fan base hasn’t stopped the torrent of abuse aimed at us.
Regardless of who was at the club, then, now, 15 years ago is irrelevant. You’re still the same club. I’m glad that some of your more sensible fans, yourself included, realise that this whole thing is a massive farce and you have come away with nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
Now, let’s get the game played. Home and away, then we can go back to hating Rotherham, Leeds and Scunthorpe.
All the best for the future, Frankie.
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Post by: 5 on Tour on January 14, 2020, 07:42:45 pm
Don’t worry guys, we’ll be well and truly down by then so you won’t be celebrating our demise. It could though be us denying you a place in the play offs so I wouldn’t get too cocky if I were you!! 😉
We aren’t looking as low down the table as the play offs. You mean automatic promotion I assume? 😂
Ha ha very funny 5 on Tour. I wish you luck with that, you’ll need it but whatever we deprived you of it would maybe be some kind of reward for the over the top abuse you’ve fired at Wanderers.
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Over the top abuse from us? Hahahahaha. That’s got to be the most hypocritical load of bullshit I’ve ever read - and we got a copy of the Tory manifesto just before the election. Your fans think we are bang out of order for not supporting you through YOUR hardship. Don’t remember seeing any of your lot helping us during ours. You were far too important for helping out smaller clubs but now you have struggled we aren’t sympathetic.
Your fan base has fired constant abuse at us for apparently not agreeing to a date. A date that the EFL were blocking due to appeal so we couldn’t agree to anyway? Are you for real?
Anyway I wish you the best of luck in League 2 next season. Oh the sights you will see. We will enjoy looking down at you. You the club who have squandered millions and still think you’re entitled to special treatment. Had you not had a man on the inside you wouldn’t even be in the football league right now.
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Post by: Frankie Rennie on January 15, 2020, 04:43:23 pm
I would though take issue with your “we didn’t care when you were in trouble” remark because I actually vividly remember collections outside the ground at the time, as we have done for numerous other clubs in difficulty over the years. Let’s be honest, it could easily happen to any of us with the finances as they are. It only needs the benefactor to walk away and you’re sunk! In fact there are several on the brink now so expect this to happen again very soon.
Anyway, good luck to you for the rest of the season and don’t waste the 6 points we’ll be giving you!! 😀
Post by: Catte on January 16, 2020, 09:02:22 am
Don’t worry guys, we’ll be well and truly down by then so you won’t be celebrating our demise. It could though be us denying you a place in the play offs so I wouldn’t get too cocky if I were you!! 😉
We aren’t looking as low down the table as the play offs. You mean automatic promotion I assume? 😂
Ha ha very funny 5 on Tour. I wish you luck with that, you’ll need it but whatever we deprived you of it would maybe be some kind of reward for the over the top abuse you’ve fired at Wanderers.
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Over the top abuse from us? Hahahahaha. That’s got to be the most hypocritical load of bullshit I’ve ever read - and we got a copy of the Tory manifesto just before the election. Your fans think we are bang out of order for not supporting you through YOUR hardship. Don’t remember seeing any of your lot helping us during ours. You were far too important for helping out smaller clubs but now you have struggled we aren’t sympathetic.
Your fan base has fired constant abuse at us for apparently not agreeing to a date. A date that the EFL were blocking due to appeal so we couldn’t agree to anyway? Are you for real?
Anyway I wish you the best of luck in League 2 next season. Oh the sights you will see. We will enjoy looking down at you. You the club who have squandered millions and still think you’re entitled to special treatment. Had you not had a man on the inside you wouldn’t even be in the football league right now.
Wow you need to chill out a little, have a beer.
Of course we will enjoy league 2 because we still have a club to follow.
I like your conspiracy theory the man on the inside, if you think and the EFL thought that he had influenced or miss stepped he would not be on the inside any more. It was the FBI on the grassy knoll.
Please do not link all Bolton fans with those on click bait Twitter, they are there to get a reaction if it winds you up then walk away.
I think if you look into the supporting of smaller clubs, teams like Bury and others in the region have benefitted from Bolton's support over the years, I remember back in the days at Burnden Park Bury fans being allowed to carry buckets through the crowd collecting to keep a roof over their heads.
But this does not fit the kick Bolton whilst they are down agenda, I honestly wish Doncaster all the best I like DM and the way he sets his teams up and what I have seen this year of your team I think he could with a bit of fortune get you in the Championship this season.
Try and remember not all fans of a club are the same and it was unfortunate it was Doncaster that Parkinson selected to be the team - My preference once he had made the decision to do this would have been Tranmere (actually I would have preferred we had not done this, but clearly he was making a statement and I hope the penicillin kicks in soon), I would prefer them hating us just a little more than having upset the fans at Doncaster.
Post by: wing commander on January 16, 2020, 09:17:09 am
However after supporting this club and remembering how it felt when you genuinely felt that it was all over and we were finished..If having to go through this inconvenience actually helped Bolton buy some time and contributed to their survival as a Football club then it's a small price to pay..
Post by: Canadian Rover on January 16, 2020, 12:28:19 pm
That way they may learn a little bit more respect for us "smaller" clubs.
Post by: Campsall rover on January 16, 2020, 01:24:57 pm
It's not only the Bolton fans that were wind up merchants that behaved disgustingly the club at Bolton did. No pride or honour or sportsmanship from them. I'll gladly see them get relegated and hopefully into the conference too.You say “smaller clubs” well how big a club are Bolton now?
That way they may learn a little bit more respect for us "smaller" clubs.
Think a club is only as big as it’s status and Bolton will be a league 2 club very soon.
No guarantee they will bounce back next season and if Gary Hill is still manager next season then the conference is a more likely venue for them at the end of 2020/21 than a return to League 1
So Bolton in my mind is now a Small Club even if some of their delusional fans think they are a Premier League Club.
Post by: NickDRFC on January 16, 2020, 01:45:50 pm
It's not only the Bolton fans that were wind up merchants that behaved disgustingly the club at Bolton did. No pride or honour or sportsmanship from them. I'll gladly see them get relegated and hopefully into the conference too.You say “smaller clubs” well how big a club are Bolton now?
That way they may learn a little bit more respect for us "smaller" clubs.
Think a club is only as big as it’s status and Bolton will be a league 2 club very soon.
No guarantee they will bounce back next season and if Gary Hill is still manager next season then the conference is a more likely venue for them at the end of 2020/21 than a return to League 1
So Bolton in my mind is now a Small Club even if some of their delusional fans think they are a Premier League Club.
Disagree with you there. One of my pet hates in football is when people say things like “Leeds/Forest/Wednesday should be in the top flight” based on their history - it’s rubbish, they are where they deserve to be. However it doesn’t make them smaller clubs than, say, Brighton or Watford just because they are in the league below them. There are all sorts of things that determine (for me) what makes a big club - historic success and fan base for example - and the league they currently reside in doesn’t really come into it.
Post by: Dutch Uncle on January 16, 2020, 01:48:21 pm
Personally like most Rovers fans I was furious at how Bolton treated us with so little respect.And nobody will ever convince me that the only reason that game was postponed was that Bolton had 2 home games in a week and the receiver just didn't have the funds to put them on and needed to buy time..
However after supporting this club and remembering how it felt when you genuinely felt that it was all over and we were finished..If having to go through this inconvenience actually helped Bolton buy some time and contributed to their survival as a Football club then it's a small price to pay..
I agree with this. It is a shame Bury were unable to survive, but if we helped Bolton then that is good for football IMHO.
However, and I may well be wrong, but I cannot remember any official comment from the Bolton club expressing any apology to DRFC and fans for inconvenience caused. I would be delighted to be wrong because such a statement would go a long way softening the apparent arrogance of the club and lack of respect/empathy for other clubs as expressed by WingCo above.
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on January 16, 2020, 02:39:50 pm
However, and I may well be wrong, but I cannot remember any official comment from the Bolton club expressing any apology to DRFC and fans for inconvenience caused. I would be delighted to be wrong because such a statement would go a long way softening the apparent arrogance of the club and lack of respect/empathy for other clubs as expressed by WingCo above.
An official full unreserved apology is the very least they could do. However there's several things Bolton could do as a gesture of good will. Putting out the same squad they had at the time is the only fair one that would gain respect.
Other gestures include paying for Rover's fans travel, and/or offering free away tickets (yes I believe that may not be allowed, but the EFL could be wise and allow this).
Post by: i_ateallthepies on January 16, 2020, 02:40:56 pm
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Post by: Campsall rover on January 16, 2020, 08:14:09 pm
Yes but you can see the point i am making surely.It's not only the Bolton fans that were wind up merchants that behaved disgustingly the club at Bolton did. No pride or honour or sportsmanship from them. I'll gladly see them get relegated and hopefully into the conference too.You say “smaller clubs” well how big a club are Bolton now?
That way they may learn a little bit more respect for us "smaller" clubs.
Think a club is only as big as it’s status and Bolton will be a league 2 club very soon.
No guarantee they will bounce back next season and if Gary Hill is still manager next season then the conference is a more likely venue for them at the end of 2020/21 than a return to League 1
So Bolton in my mind is now a Small Club even if some of their delusional fans think they are a Premier League Club.
Disagree with you there. One of my pet hates in football is when people say things like “Leeds/Forest/Wednesday should be in the top flight” based on their history - it’s rubbish, they are where they deserve to be. However it doesn’t make them smaller clubs than, say, Brighton or Watford just because they are in the league below them. There are all sorts of things that determine (for me) what makes a big club - historic success and fan base for example - and the league they currently reside in doesn’t really come into it.
Bolton may look a big Club compared to Macclesfield or Morecambe next season but compared to Bradford City and Plymouth Argyle if they are still in League 2 next season they will not look big.
In fact unless they storm the league it is likely their gates will be lower. So are Bradford and Plymouth big clubs? In league 2 maybe they are. Everything is comparative.
Put Bolton in the Championship and would you say they are a big club?
Compared to Leeds, Wednesday, Forest, Derby, WBA, Stoke, Middlesbrough, Cardiff, Bristol City, Birmingham City, Fulham etc etc they are not.
Post by: NickDRFC on January 16, 2020, 10:10:50 pm
Yes but you can see the point i am making surely.It's not only the Bolton fans that were wind up merchants that behaved disgustingly the club at Bolton did. No pride or honour or sportsmanship from them. I'll gladly see them get relegated and hopefully into the conference too.You say “smaller clubs” well how big a club are Bolton now?
That way they may learn a little bit more respect for us "smaller" clubs.
Think a club is only as big as it’s status and Bolton will be a league 2 club very soon.
No guarantee they will bounce back next season and if Gary Hill is still manager next season then the conference is a more likely venue for them at the end of 2020/21 than a return to League 1
So Bolton in my mind is now a Small Club even if some of their delusional fans think they are a Premier League Club.
Disagree with you there. One of my pet hates in football is when people say things like “Leeds/Forest/Wednesday should be in the top flight” based on their history - it’s rubbish, they are where they deserve to be. However it doesn’t make them smaller clubs than, say, Brighton or Watford just because they are in the league below them. There are all sorts of things that determine (for me) what makes a big club - historic success and fan base for example - and the league they currently reside in doesn’t really come into it.
Bolton may look a big Club compared to Macclesfield or Morecambe next season but compared to Bradford City and Plymouth Argyle if they are still in League 2 next season they will not look big.
In fact unless they storm the league it is likely their gates will be lower. So are Bradford and Plymouth big clubs? In league 2 maybe they are. Everything is comparative.
Put Bolton in the Championship and would you say they are a big club?
Compared to Leeds, Wednesday, Forest, Derby, WBA, Stoke, Middlesbrough, Cardiff, Bristol City, Birmingham City, Fulham etc etc they are not.
I can read the point you are making, I just don’t agree with it. I think you’ve also contradicted yourself - you said “a club is only as big as it’s status” but then in your hypothetical scenario of Bolton being in the Championship you say that some clubs of the same status would be bigger.
Bolton are hardly a massive club but at League One and especially League Two it’s hard to deny that they are/would be a big fish at that level. They’ve spent a large portion of their history in the top flight, won the FA Cup several times and played in Europe - that makes them a big club in my eyes. You might not agree but that’s how I see it.
Post by: Campsall rover on January 17, 2020, 09:13:18 am
Being a big club is all comparative and it depends what information you use to make those comparisons.
Bolton in my eyes are anything but a big club as they stand now and to you they are a big club.
I think we should leave it at that. Opinions Opinions :)
Post by: Catte on January 17, 2020, 01:13:45 pm
Pet hate is hearing pundits say they would love Leeds to be back in the Prem as that is where they belong, this to me is arse and you need to be careful what you wish for as they have more than their share of nut jobs following them looking to make a name for themselves.
Are Bolton a big club, well most of the fans who have followed as long as I have would say no, the Prem we were punching above our weight, we loved it but without Sam Allardyce it is unlikely we would have stayed anywhere near the length that we did. We were not a big club then somewhere between Bournemouth and Crystal Palace for a comparison. Are we a big club in this league we probably should be, but we are not yes teams like to come to our stadium and they all fancy playing us.
Will we be a big club next season in the 2nd Division if Bradford are still there we will probably be on a par with them. We have some history we have some ambition but I suspect next season at least at the start we will be back down to our core of loyal fans and most will be my age struggling to remember when Djorkaeff, Jay Jay, Hierro, Campo, Stuart Holden, Jaaskelainen, Stelios and Ivan Klasnic used to turn out for us.
As a fan our job is to dream and hope those in charge know what they are doing, sadly for some time now the last bit has been missing.
Post by: Metalmicky on January 17, 2020, 02:14:01 pm
I kind of agree with most of the comments to some extent.
Pet hate is hearing pundits say they would love Leeds to be back in the Prem as that is where they belong, this to me is arse and you need to be careful what you wish for as they have more than their share of nut jobs following them looking to make a name for themselves.
I think we're all hoping it's time for some..........
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Post by: dickos1 on January 29, 2020, 08:23:56 am
Bournemouth aren’t a bigger club than Bolton, Bradford just because they’re currently in the prem