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Title: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on January 18, 2020, 07:08:30 pm
Every year, it gets a bit worse.

This entitled bleating everytime we don't steamroller an opponent.

I'll give you my two pennorth. We've just gone toe to toe with a side that will get a top three place. We have matched them in every aspect of play, other than one momentary lapse of concentration where we didn't close down for the goal. We had several chances where shots weren't cleanly struck or deflections took the ball into Marosi's hands. We've had two poor decisions go agai at us (penalty on Ennis and the foul given against us when Marosi spilled a catch).

It happens.

Ennis had an off-day.

It happens.

And then the floodgates open in here.

Quite pathetic to witness the bawling of grown men because they haven't got EXACTLY what they want.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: selby on January 18, 2020, 07:14:05 pm
  Billy, you are 100% correct, and the sad thing is I think the regulars on here could write  the same names down in a sealed envelope before any game, and get most names correct if we lost the game.
 
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on January 18, 2020, 07:14:54 pm
Agreed
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Campsall rover on January 18, 2020, 07:16:49 pm
  Billy, you are 100% correct, and the sad thing is I think the regulars on here could write  the same names down in a sealed envelope before any game, and get most names correct if we lost the game.
 
Absolutely we could Brian. It’s very sad and quite pathetic. Like a lot of big baby’s.
Pleased there are a few of us that understand football.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: since-1969 on January 18, 2020, 07:19:36 pm
  Billy, you are 100% correct, and the sad thing is I think the regulars on here could write  the same names down in a sealed envelope before any game, and get most names correct if we lost the game.
 
No today was the ceiling that we can’t brake through . DRFC have no intentions of putting investment in the team only token gestures of loans and window shopping for targets that will not come any where near a penny pinching club like ours !!!
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: bpoolrover on January 18, 2020, 07:20:19 pm
Not sure we matched them in the 1st half it was man against boys, last 10 mins and second half we did thou, I think it’s frustration why people are moaning, sadlier went off and we brought a guy on who to be fair did nothing wrong that couldn’t get a contract with a non league team and let’s be honest is no where near good enough for this league, we had may who was a decent squad player who we have let go and not replaced and we have played all season without a decent centre forward when the last few seasons we had one banging 20 goals plus, something somewhere has gone wrong with recruiting and to be fair at this level is not good enough
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: robchester on January 18, 2020, 07:24:14 pm
Well said Billy
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on January 18, 2020, 07:29:12 pm
  Billy, you are 100% correct, and the sad thing is I think the regulars on here could write  the same names down in a sealed envelope before any game, and get most names correct if we lost the game.
 
No today was the ceiling that we can’t brake through . DRFC have no intentions of putting investment in the team only token gestures of loans and window shopping for targets that will not come any where near a penny pinching club like ours !!!

Go on then, I’ll bite. Explain why we are a “penny pinching club”.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: RoversAlias on January 18, 2020, 07:34:13 pm
Completely right BST. I have to log off for the night after a defeat nowadays to avoid being bogged down in the negativity of it all.

Some of the sweary shouting every time we didn't just bang it in the goal from 30 yards from some people sat in front of me today was extremely tiresome. I half wanted to just leave before the end to avoid being around these sorts of fans, but of course I couldn't abandon the team before time!
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on January 18, 2020, 07:34:33 pm
Not sure we matched them in the 1st half it was man against boys, last 10 mins and second half we did thou, I think it’s frustration why people are moaning, sadlier went off and we brought a guy on who to be fair did nothing wrong that couldn’t get a contract with a non league team and let’s be honest is no where near good enough for this league, we had may who was a decent squad player who we have let go and not replaced and we have played all season without a decent centre forward when the last few seasons we had one banging 20 goals plus, something somewhere has gone wrong with recruiting and to be fair at this level is not good enough
In general I agree with you though re Bingham his stats are good as far as I can see - excellent goals per minute played, very good ratio of shots on target. He's had far less game time than others and could well be someone that figures. But yes, I would like to see us land that player DM has been trying to get.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: roversdude on January 18, 2020, 07:36:40 pm
Every year, it gets a bit worse.

This entitled bleating everytime we don't steamroller an opponent.

I'll give you my two pennorth. We've just gone toe to toe with a side that will get a top three place. We have matched them in every aspect of play, other than one momentary lapse of concentration where we didn't close down for the goal. We had several chances where shots weren't cleanly struck or deflections took the ball into Marosi's hands. We've had two poor decisions go agai at us (penalty on Ennis and the foul given against us when Marosi spilled a catch).

It happens.

Ennis had an off-day.

It happens.

And then the floodgates open in here.

Quite pathetic to witness the bawling of grown men because they haven't got EXACTLY what they want.

Couldn’t have put it any better Billy
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: since-1969 on January 18, 2020, 07:42:55 pm
  Billy, you are 100% correct, and the sad thing is I think the regulars on here could write  the same names down in a sealed envelope before any game, and get most names correct if we lost the game.
 
No today was the ceiling that we can’t brake through . DRFC have no intentions of putting investment in the team only token gestures of loans and window shopping for targets that will not come any where near a penny pinching club like ours !!!

Go on then, I’ll bite. Explain why we are a “penny pinching club”.
Really !! Marquis money ?
Playing staff down to bare bones ,
Shrewsbury walked away from our offer inspite of risking player leaving in the summer that’s how low it was !
We are the only team in the EFL without a club No9 on the books.

SFB!
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Copps is Magic on January 18, 2020, 07:43:58 pm
We didn't go toe to toe with them. It was more like shadow boxing. We huffed and puffed but didn't throw a punch in anger. One half-decent chance for Taylor and that was it.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Lesonthewest on January 18, 2020, 07:45:13 pm
On the flip side fellas, it was the 52nd minute before we had a shot on target, at home, really? & for the 2nd home game in a row I wasn't entertained. It's not the lack of effort, or the losing to an extent, it's the lack of poor passing & lack of quality where it matters, in the last third. We will, in my opinion, fall well short of the top six with the current squad. We offered absolutely nothing threat wise in the first half, & huffed & puffed 2nd half when Coventry sat in & let us have the ball. Two or 3 additions & we will have a chance, if not, plan for next season.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: ravenrover on January 18, 2020, 07:48:09 pm
  Billy, you are 100% correct, and the sad thing is I think the regulars on here could write  the same names down in a sealed envelope before any game, and get most names correct if we lost the game.
 
No today was the ceiling that we can’t brake through . DRFC have no intentions of putting investment in the team only token gestures of loans and window shopping for targets that will not come any where near a penny pinching club like ours !!!

Go on then, I’ll bite. Explain why we are a “penny pinching club”.
Really !! Marquis money ?
Playing staff down to bare bones ,
Shrewsbury walked away from our offer inspite of risking player leaving in the summer that’s how low it was !
We are the only team in the EFL without a club No9 on the books.

SFB!
Go on then please let us all in on how little we offered Shrewsbury
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: since-1969 on January 18, 2020, 07:48:40 pm
  Billy, you are 100% correct, and the sad thing is I think the regulars on here could write  the same names down in a sealed envelope before any game, and get most names correct if we lost the game.
 
No today was the ceiling that we can’t brake through . DRFC have no intentions of putting investment in the team only token gestures of loans and window shopping for targets that will not come any where near a penny pinching club like ours !!!

Go on then, I’ll bite. Explain why we are a “penny pinching club”.
Really !! Marquis money ?
Playing staff down to bare bones ,
Shrewsbury walked away from our offer inspite of risking player leaving in the summer that’s how low it was !
We are the only team in the EFL without a club No9 on the books.

SFB!
Go on then please let us all in on how little we offered Shrewsbury
Not enough clearly !!
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Draytonian III on January 18, 2020, 07:49:45 pm
Well said Billy .
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Metalmicky on January 18, 2020, 07:54:14 pm
I think there are several WUM's on here and if you feed them.......
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Campsall rover on January 18, 2020, 07:58:03 pm
  Billy, you are 100% correct, and the sad thing is I think the regulars on here could write  the same names down in a sealed envelope before any game, and get most names correct if we lost the game.
 
No today was the ceiling that we can’t brake through . DRFC have no intentions of putting investment in the team only token gestures of loans and window shopping for targets that will not come any where near a penny pinching club like ours !!!

Go on then, I’ll bite. Explain why we are a “penny pinching club”.
Really !! Marquis money ?
Playing staff down to bare bones ,
Shrewsbury walked away from our offer inspite of risking player leaving in the summer that’s how low it was !
We are the only team in the EFL without a club No9 on the books.

SFB!
Go on then please let us all in on how little we offered Shrewsbury
Not enough clearly !!
Ever heard of Agents. That’s the biggest problem imo.
Well we are not going to pay them ridiculous fees. Well done Rovers. It’s a shame most other clubs don’t take the same stance. The whole game would be better for it.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: coventryrover on January 18, 2020, 08:00:38 pm
Have to vary the quick off.    Oppo  team  players just push forward.   To do it everytime is silly .

Firt half was like Sunderland,often eschewing the forward pass, the was the obvious one.

Ennis had it tough.  On his own and gets bullied by defenders.

Second half better intentions.  But just shows we need that forward .  Alfie may could have helped
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on January 18, 2020, 08:01:03 pm
On the flip side fellas, it was the 52nd minute before we had a shot on target, at home, really? & for the 2nd home game in a row I wasn't entertained. It's not the lack of effort, or the losing to an extent, it's the lack of poor passing & lack of quality where it matters, in the last third. We will, in my opinion, fall well short of the top six with the current squad. We offered absolutely nothing threat wise in the first half, & huffed & puffed 2nd half when Coventry sat in & let us have the ball. Two or 3 additions & we will have a chance, if not, plan for next season.

You’ll struggle to find anyone who’ll claim we played well today. I think the issue is that certain people turn it into an opportunity to slag off the board, manager, players, chips and beer, car parking etc.. anytime we don’t play like the Brazil 1982 team
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: ravenrover on January 18, 2020, 08:01:39 pm
  Billy, you are 100% correct, and the sad thing is I think the regulars on here could write  the same names down in a sealed envelope before any game, and get most names correct if we lost the game.
 
No today was the ceiling that we can’t brake through . DRFC have no intentions of putting investment in the team only token gestures of loans and window shopping for targets that will not come any where near a penny pinching club like ours !!!

Go on then, I’ll bite. Explain why we are a “penny pinching club”.
Really !! Marquis money ?
Playing staff down to bare bones ,
Shrewsbury walked away from our offer inspite of risking player leaving in the summer that’s how low it was !
We are the only team in the EFL without a club No9 on the books.

SFB!
Go on then please let us all in on how little we offered Shrewsbury
Not enough clearly !!
A figure would be appreciated rather than a pathetic attempt at humour
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: drfchound on January 18, 2020, 08:03:13 pm
  Billy, you are 100% correct, and the sad thing is I think the regulars on here could write  the same names down in a sealed envelope before any game, and get most names correct if we lost the game.
 
No today was the ceiling that we can’t brake through . DRFC have no intentions of putting investment in the team only token gestures of loans and window shopping for targets that will not come any where near a penny pinching club like ours !!!

Go on then, I’ll bite. Explain why we are a “penny pinching club”.
Really !! Marquis money ?
Playing staff down to bare bones ,
Shrewsbury walked away from our offer inspite of risking player leaving in the summer that’s how low it was !
We are the only team in the EFL without a club No9 on the books.

SFB!
Go on then please let us all in on how little we offered Shrewsbury
Not enough clearly !!
Ever heard of Agents. That’s the biggest problem imo.
Well we are not going to pay them ridiculous fees. Well done Rovers. It’s a shame most other clubs don’t take the same stance. The whole game would be better for it.






But the agents are here.
Other clubs have the same problems that we have.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Cbrover24 on January 18, 2020, 08:04:18 pm
Agree with what u said there Billy, personally I thought we were in the game up until they scored, then I felt we sort of went into our shell a bit, I thought the next 15/20 mins or so we were poor but finished the first half better! 2nd half I thought we looked more at the races, much better going forward and tbh I thought the goal for us was going to come at one point, but it never did and it is what it is! We lost, it’s not the end of the day, we don’t have a Devine right to win every game! We move on to the next game, which again will be a tough game! guaranteed there will be more losses and also more wins before this season is done with, and we will finish where we are suppose to this season! I mean it could be worse, we could of lost 0-5 at home today like sheff Wednesday to a team that was on a very poor run of form, but we have not!! Onwards and upwards to the next game!   
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Metalmicky on January 18, 2020, 08:06:09 pm
Agree with what u said there Billy, personally I thought we were in the game up until they scored, then I felt we sort of went into our shell a bit, I thought the next 15/20 mins or so we were poor but finished the first half better! 2nd half I thought we looked more at the races, much better going forward and tbh I thought the goal for us was going to come at one point, but it never did and it is what it is! We lost, it’s not the end of the day, we don’t have a Devine right to win every game! We move on to the next game, which again will be a tough game! guaranteed there will be more losses and also more wins before this season is done with, and we will finish where we are suppose to this season!   

hallelujah
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 18, 2020, 08:32:46 pm
Agree with what u said there Billy, personally I thought we were in the game up until they scored, then I felt we sort of went into our shell a bit, I thought the next 15/20 mins or so we were poor but finished the first half better! 2nd half I thought we looked more at the races, much better going forward and tbh I thought the goal for us was going to come at one point, but it never did and it is what it is! We lost, it’s not the end of the day, we don’t have a Devine right to win every game! We move on to the next game, which again will be a tough game! guaranteed there will be more losses and also more wins before this season is done with, and we will finish where we are suppose to this season!   

hallelujah

Yep, good summary.

Worth a listen to DM's post match which is now up on the match thread.

There's a message there to all those who's patience is wafer thin.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: drfcsteve on January 18, 2020, 08:36:09 pm
There are some apologists that will accept anything. I'm not sure what some people were watching but if that is the standard you are happy to accept, save yourself some money and go watch sunday league. It was boring. At one point the ball was passed back to Dieng and he just stood there looking at 10 statues in front of him.

We lost, and we fully deserved to lose. I'm not moaning about losing, I'm moaning about the absolute dross I had to spend £21 to watch.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: dickos1 on January 18, 2020, 08:44:26 pm
Where has all this agent nonsense come from?
Nobody has ever suggested from the club that we’re not signing players because of agents
SM has never mentioned agents being an issue.
We’ve signed dozens of players over the last few years and agents haven’t been an issue.

Yet people now all of a sudden are saying agents are the reason we aren’t signing players.

Nonsense
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: dknward2 on January 18, 2020, 08:52:20 pm
Don't think anyone minds if we lose to a better team but Coventry weren't that good we really need to sort out our set pieces.

Out of all our set plays I think maybe only 2 found one of our players.

Hopefully we won't play that bad again this season or have that many players have that many players have a bad game
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on January 18, 2020, 08:55:21 pm
There are some apologists that will accept anything. I'm not sure what some people were watching but if that is the standard you are happy to accept, save yourself some money and go watch sunday league. It was boring. At one point the ball was passed back to Dieng and he just stood there looking at 10 statues in front of him.

We lost, and we fully deserved to lose. I'm not moaning about losing, I'm moaning about the absolute dross I had to spend £21 to watch.

You’re missing the point. Nobody is saying it was a good performance. It wasn’t. The point BST and others are making is that the resident doomsayers go into meltdown whenever we don’t play like Brazil 1970.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 18, 2020, 09:07:42 pm
We did play like the 1970 Brazil team, but they're about 75 years old now.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: since-1969 on January 18, 2020, 09:15:05 pm
Agree with what u said there Billy, personally I thought we were in the game up until they scored, then I felt we sort of went into our shell a bit, I thought the next 15/20 mins or so we were poor but finished the first half better! 2nd half I thought we looked more at the races, much better going forward and tbh I thought the goal for us was going to come at one point, but it never did and it is what it is! We lost, it’s not the end of the day, we don’t have a Devine right to win every game! We move on to the next game, which again will be a tough game! guaranteed there will be more losses and also more wins before this season is done with, and we will finish where we are suppose to this season!   

hallelujah

Yep, good summary.

Worth a listen to DM's post match which is now up on the match thread.

There's a message there to all those who's patience is wafer thin.
We heard that it takes 3 years to build a team and he feels that after a few transfer windows and reshuffling the team we will get our chance. We hear in his tone of voice that he is getting fed up of being asked about transfers and it is up us if we think what he puts on the bench is good enough . So it’s not his fault we can only deduce a  from all this . 
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: the vicar on January 18, 2020, 09:44:32 pm
Don't think anyone minds if we lose to a better team but Coventry weren't that good we really need to sort out our set pieces.

Out of all our set plays I think maybe only 2 found one of our players.

Hopefully we won't play that bad again this season or have that many players have that many players have a bad game
No they wasn't that good we just laid down and let them do what they wanted
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Pancho Regan on January 18, 2020, 09:47:36 pm
Fifty years I’ve been supporting this team and it still hurts like hell when we lose.

I was really disappointed as I left the stadium this evening because I felt we could have done better.

Coventry were a good team and actually the first half was a cracking game of football, with entertaining stuff from both sides.
I just had a feeling when Shipley scored that superb goal that we would really struggle to get back on terms.
One goal was always going to settle this game, as the cliche goes.

Second half I thought we huffed and puffed and although we had loads of possession, every one of our attacks fizzled out and we never really looked like scoring.

The final ten minutes were painful. We still had lots of possession but we seemed to totally run out of ideas and we showed no composure.

The cross-field ball in added time from Sheaf which went out for a throw-in to Coventry just about summed us up.

I understand completely what BST means in the OP, and I’m deliberately not reading any threads from the doom-mongers.
But I feel we have to be picking up points at home to the Sunderlands and Coventrys if we want to make the play-offs.

Ah well, I’ll make the journey to Sunderland next Friday and I really hope we do ourselves justice.



Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: karlos on January 19, 2020, 12:02:56 am
Darren Moore says people haven't identified who he is really looking at and that he is glad about that. So that being said he has obviously identified players so why are the board or whoever else is in charge of getting these deals done not getting it done. Other clubs get business concluded so why are we not?
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: eastender on January 19, 2020, 12:20:41 am
On the flip side fellas, it was the 52nd minute before we had a shot on target, at home, really? & for the 2nd home game in a row I wasn't entertained. It's not the lack of effort, or the losing to an extent, it's the lack of poor passing & lack of quality where it matters, in the last third. We will, in my opinion, fall well short of the top six with the current squad. We offered absolutely nothing threat wise in the first half, & huffed & puffed 2nd half when Coventry sat in & let us have the ball. Two or 3 additions & we will have a chance, if not, plan for next season.

You’ll struggle to find anyone who’ll claim we played well today. I think the issue is that certain people turn it into an opportunity to slag off the board, manager, players, chips and beer, car parking etc.. anytime we don’t play like the Brazil 1982 team

Brazil farted in 1982 , a bit like us today.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Campsall rover on January 19, 2020, 08:50:32 am
Where has all this agent nonsense come from?
Nobody has ever suggested from the club that we’re not signing players because of agents
SM has never mentioned agents being an issue.
We’ve signed dozens of players over the last few years and agents haven’t been an issue.

Yet people now all of a sudden are saying agents are the reason we aren’t signing players.

Nonsense
Well i think it is a part of the problem.
Agents are holding out to get the best deal and are definitely a big problem in the game as a whole.
If you don’t want to believe it then that’s up to you.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: the vicar on January 19, 2020, 09:24:17 am
  Billy, you are 100% correct, and the sad thing is I think the regulars on here could write  the same names down in a sealed envelope before any game, and get most names correct if we lost the game.
 
No today was the ceiling that we can’t brake through . DRFC have no intentions of putting investment in the team only token gestures of loans and window shopping for targets that will not come any where near a penny pinching club like ours !!!

Go on then, I’ll bite. Explain why we are a “penny pinching club”.
Really !! Marquis money ?
Playing staff down to bare bones ,
Shrewsbury walked away from our offer inspite of risking player leaving in the summer that’s how low it was !
We are the only team in the EFL without a club No9 on the books.

SFB!
maybe not but maybe other teams are scoring more goals from other positions
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: the vicar on January 19, 2020, 09:30:17 am
Agree with what u said there Billy, personally I thought we were in the game up until they scored, then I felt we sort of went into our shell a bit, I thought the next 15/20 mins or so we were poor but finished the first half better! 2nd half I thought we looked more at the races, much better going forward and tbh I thought the goal for us was going to come at one point, but it never did and it is what it is! We lost, it’s not the end of the day, we don’t have a Devine right to win every game! We move on to the next game, which again will be a tough game! guaranteed there will be more losses and also more wins before this season is done with, and we will finish where we are suppose to this season! I mean it could be worse, we could of lost 0-5 at home today like sheff Wednesday to a team that was on a very poor run of form, but we have not!! Onwards and upwards to the next game!   
we were never in the game, but we'll I suppose you are right stating the obvious at 0-0 of course we would be as no one has scored
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 19, 2020, 10:03:09 am
 Not for the first time Rovers were far too slow and complacent and got brought down to earth. The performance was reminiscent of England's loss to Iceland at the 2016  Euros, only worse - We'd have lost to Tesco and Asda yesterday.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: IDM on January 19, 2020, 10:05:30 am
There was a ten minute spell just after half time where we had three excellent chances, and where we were really on top of the game.

Taylor burst into the box at an angle and had his bullet shot not been too close to Marosi it might have burst the net.

Then Copps breezed along the byline, chipped Marosi and their defender headed off the line.

Even Bingham managed to fashion himself a shot in the box which was on target but didn’t test Marosi.

As others have said, we were far from our best yesterday but that defeat was hardly the end of the world.

This is the only thread I have read today - I saw the “borefest” one last night where only an hour after the game ended someone had posted that the board should be sacked.

Exactly the meltdown I predicted on the lucky pint thread at the end of the game.

All the doom monger posters - and we know who they are - don’t realise they are stifling proper debate.  It is definitely correct to debate squad issues, player performances etc but some of the extreme viewpoints make the forum farcical.

Yesterday’s game went against us but we were in the game until the final whistle and had plenty of attaching intent, but it didn’t pay off.  Borefest  my arse.!!
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: ravenrover on January 19, 2020, 10:10:47 am
  Billy, you are 100% correct, and the sad thing is I think the regulars on here could write  the same names down in a sealed envelope before any game, and get most names correct if we lost the game.
 
No today was the ceiling that we can’t brake through . DRFC have no intentions of putting investment in the team only token gestures of loans and window shopping for targets that will not come any where near a penny pinching club like ours !!!

Go on then, I’ll bite. Explain why we are a “penny pinching club”.
Really !! Marquis money ?
Playing staff down to bare bones ,
Shrewsbury walked away from our offer inspite of risking player leaving in the summer that’s how low it was !
We are the only team in the EFL without a club No9 on the books.

SFB!
Got that figure yet?
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Cramby10 on January 19, 2020, 10:20:23 am
There was a ten minute spell just after half time where we had three excellent chances, and where we were really on top of the game.

Taylor burst into the box at an angle and had his bullet shot not been too close to Marosi it might have burst the net.

Then Copps breezed along the byline, chipped Marosi and their defender headed off the line.

Even Bingham managed to fashion himself a shot in the box which was on target but didn’t test Marosi.

As others have said, we were far from our best yesterday but that defeat was hardly the end of the world.

This is the only thread I have read today - I saw the “borefest” one last night where only an hour after the game ended someone had posted that the board should be sacked.

Exactly the meltdown I predicted on the lucky pint thread at the end of the game.

All the doom monger posters - and we know who they are - don’t realise they are stifling proper debate.  It is definitely correct to debate squad issues, player performances etc but some of the extreme viewpoints make the forum farcical.

Yesterday’s game went against us but we were in the game until the final whistle and had plenty of attaching intent, but it didn’t pay off.  Borefest  my arse.!!
thought police in action again.
You’re as tiresome as the doom mongers and conspiracy theorists.
Give your head a shake me old fruit bat.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: IDM on January 19, 2020, 10:38:10 am
Thought police.??

Folks can think what they like, it’s how things are express that concerns me.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: colincramb on January 19, 2020, 10:58:32 am
Let’s be honest, if we were still playing now we wouldn’t have scored. Marosi didn’t need to make a single save. That’s very poor at home
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: IDM on January 19, 2020, 11:00:24 am
No saves.? Ask Taylor at least..
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 19, 2020, 11:06:44 am
Rovers played the whole game in first gear apart from a five-minute second-half spell of domination when they speeded up a bit. After that, they returned to first gear.

Coventry won the game in second gear.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: dickos1 on January 19, 2020, 11:57:45 am
Where has all this agent nonsense come from?
Nobody has ever suggested from the club that we’re not signing players because of agents
SM has never mentioned agents being an issue.
We’ve signed dozens of players over the last few years and agents haven’t been an issue.

Yet people now all of a sudden are saying agents are the reason we aren’t signing players.

Nonsense
Well i think it is a part of the problem.
Agents are holding out to get the best deal and are definitely a big problem in the game as a whole.
If you don’t want to believe it then that’s up to you.

Don’t disagree that they may be a problem in the game but it’s not the reason we’re failing to sign players at the moment.
Our stance hasn’t recently changed and we’ve previously managed
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on January 19, 2020, 12:35:24 pm
There was a ten minute spell just after half time where we had three excellent chances, and where we were really on top of the game.

Taylor burst into the box at an angle and had his bullet shot not been too close to Marosi it might have burst the net.

Then Copps breezed along the byline, chipped Marosi and their defender headed off the line.

Even Bingham managed to fashion himself a shot in the box which was on target but didn’t test Marosi.

As others have said, we were far from our best yesterday but that defeat was hardly the end of the world.

This is the only thread I have read today - I saw the “borefest” one last night where only an hour after the game ended someone had posted that the board should be sacked.

Exactly the meltdown I predicted on the lucky pint thread at the end of the game.

All the doom monger posters - and we know who they are - don’t realise they are stifling proper debate.  It is definitely correct to debate squad issues, player performances etc but some of the extreme viewpoints make the forum farcical.

Yesterday’s game went against us but we were in the game until the final whistle and had plenty of attaching intent, but it didn’t pay off.  Borefest  my arse.!!

That 10 minute spell followed the last 10 mins if the first half, in which we had a clear penalty not given, and somehow contrived to miss a chance from 6 inches in front of the goal line (albeit that the ref incorrectly blew for a foul on Marosi,when he'd actually been blocked by three of his own defenders).

People saying that we never looked like scoring have some strange selective memories.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: IDM on January 19, 2020, 12:37:29 pm
We were very close to scoring, but because we didn’t, folks have selective memories..

Had Taylor’s shot beaten Marosi I would expect us to have gone on to win the game..

Funny old game, innit.?
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: dickos1 on January 19, 2020, 12:43:38 pm
Whatever the results, whatever chances we create it doesn’t alter the fact that we need a goalscorer.
The whole side would transform with a proper number 9 with ennis off him
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on January 19, 2020, 12:45:22 pm
Those days happen.

I thought our passing was excellent and Coventry had to play a very high tempo press to contain it. For most of the first half, they WERE successful in containing us, but you could see it take a physical toll on them and they became less and less successful at pressing us as the game wore on. Ennis had possibly the poorest game I've seen him have for us, and our shots from 12-20 yards were poor. It happens. But to read disaster into yesterday is a depressingly predictable OTT response.

For what it's worth, I do think we will come up slightly short of the play-offs this year. I think we don't quite have the quality to overcome the physicality of a Coventry or a Sunderland. But as a work in progress, Moore is doing a superb job.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: The Beast on January 19, 2020, 01:14:02 pm
The Club is in a lot better position now than it was for the first 15 years of my Rovers supporting life. I think the trouble is a lot of our fans jumped on the bandwagon when the club was relaunched by John Ryan and all they’ve known is success, so when we’re not rolling teams over they just moan, they have unrealistic expectations and quite a lot of them are not very knowledgeable about football, don’t realise there’s 2 teams on the pitch.
   After the summer we had I thought we might struggle to stay up this season, so I’m more than happy with the position we’re in. Yesterday we got beat by the better team, get over it, that’s football! We’re not a championship club, we never will be, Doncaster is a town full of glory supporting w@nk£rs!
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: scawsby steve on January 19, 2020, 03:15:59 pm
The Club is in a lot better position now than it was for the first 15 years of my Rovers supporting life. I think the trouble is a lot of our fans jumped on the bandwagon when the club was relaunched by John Ryan and all they’ve known is success, so when we’re not rolling teams over they just moan, they have unrealistic expectations and quite a lot of them are not very knowledgeable about football, don’t realise there’s 2 teams on the pitch.
   After the summer we had I thought we might struggle to stay up this season, so I’m more than happy with the position we’re in. Yesterday we got beat by the better team, get over it, that’s football! We’re not a championship club, we never will be, Doncaster is a town full of glory supporting w@nk£rs!

We're not a Championship club, we never will be? Without realising it, you've just made the most negative post on this thread.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: redwine on January 19, 2020, 06:42:31 pm
I may be out of step here, but I think it's all down to perspective. It's only football.

I'm in to see my consultant urologist next week to find out the results of my PSA test.

Take time to enjoy what's around you, because you won't always be here.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: IDM on January 19, 2020, 06:45:11 pm
Spot on there.. we love our football and we all want our team to do well, but it shouldn’t be so important.

Hope your results go well redwine..
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: drfchound on January 19, 2020, 06:47:41 pm
Yeah, good luck redwine.
Hope all is well.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Metalmicky on January 19, 2020, 06:56:52 pm
I may be out of step here, but I think it's all down to perspective. It's only football.

I'm in to see my consultant urologist next week to find out the results of my PSA test.

Take time to enjoy what's around you, because you won't always be here.

I wish you well chap - my old man is going through similar..... I really can't believe some pricks waste most of their day pontificating on here and forget that there are more important things in life......
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 19, 2020, 07:14:58 pm
Of course, there are far more important things in life than the fortunes of Doncaster Rovers, and irrespective of the opinions of both critics and worshippers of the clubs ruling body, football pales into insignificance in the scheme of things.

Hope all is well.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 19, 2020, 07:35:49 pm
All the best redwine!
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: silent majority on January 19, 2020, 07:41:59 pm
I may be out of step here, but I think it's all down to perspective. It's only football.

I'm in to see my consultant urologist next week to find out the results of my PSA test.

Take time to enjoy what's around you, because you won't always be here.

Oh absolutely,

I'm having to reassess my contribution to the supporters movement at the moment because my health is currently causing issues. For the last couple of months I've been in and out of hospital for minor surgery and a whole series of tests to find out what's going on.

It certainly makes you think.

Good luck by the way!
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Not Now Kato on January 19, 2020, 09:31:40 pm
Best wished redwine, and you too SM.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Campsall rover on January 19, 2020, 09:43:13 pm
Yes all the best SM and redwine.

Health is the most important thing and we should always remember to have a bit of perspective when discussing football.
It is not and never will be the be all and end all.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: drfchound on January 19, 2020, 09:56:46 pm
Good wishes for a good diagnosis and quick recovery SM.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: wing commander on January 20, 2020, 08:55:06 am
   Yes fingers crossed for both of you,hope everythings okay.Personally I wouldn't blame you for taking a step back.Especially after all the abuse you get from certain people who haven't got a Scooby doo just how much work you actually do for the fans and the club.

   People don't have to agree with you on everything Rovers,we've had our difference of opinion ourselves but there's no excuse for not been able to debate your points and resort to abuse..

   On the game itself,again total over reaction from some.Coventry are a good side,Robins is further down the road in developing his side than DM is.At the end of the day it was a even game that we lost out on due to a good strike right in the corner.

   I will say one thing though,it highlights my moans about too many loan players.It takes more than one season to develop some of the understanding that Coventry players had.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: Alickismyhero on January 20, 2020, 09:43:06 am
I may be out of step here, but I think it's all down to perspective. It's only football.

I'm in to see my consultant urologist next week to find out the results of my PSA test.

Take time to enjoy what's around you, because you won't always be here.

Redwine,
I had the  PSA test, everyone over 50 should have this test, followed by the biopsy and finished with a rebore of the prostate. I am pleased to say the results were good. I left out the fact I broke my ankle in the same period falling off a ladder!!! which involved a 4 day stay in hospital having it screwed back together. Having completed 30 years in the London FB I decided to keep it a secret from my old fireman that in fact I fell off a ladder.

My golfing mate was persistent in asking me about all the symptoms I had with the prostate so I advised him to go to the doctors and get the PSA test, he did and he was diagnosed with the dreaded cancer. He's doing well but I am sure he wouldn't be here now had we not talked.

Sorry to go on about this but another strange example. My brother had the PSA, biopsy at DRI and then diagnosed with cancer. He phones me up tells me the bad news, says that he is going on holiday and will sort things out when he gets back. Gets back off holiday and receives a call from Sheffield saying that in fact he hadn't got cancer, a roller coaster of news.

BOYS, IF YOU ARE 50 TAKE MY ADVISE, AS A MATTER OF ROUTINE, GO TO THE DOCTORS AND GET A PSA TEST. 

Its not a perfect test but its the best available at the moment and just a simple blood test, not an arm full.

Best of luck Redwine and SM I know what you are going through, it keeps things in perspective............


.......who needs a striker.
Title: Re: It's getting worse int it?
Post by: sha66y on January 20, 2020, 06:38:40 pm
The Club is in a lot better position now than it was for the first 15 years of my Rovers supporting life. I think the trouble is a lot of our fans jumped on the bandwagon when the club was relaunched by John Ryan and all they’ve known is success, so when we’re not rolling teams over they just moan, they have unrealistic expectations and quite a lot of them are not very knowledgeable about football, don’t realise there’s 2 teams on the pitch.
   After the summer we had I thought we might struggle to stay up this season, so I’m more than happy with the position we’re in. Yesterday we got beat by the better team, get over it, that’s football! We’re not a championship club, we never will be, Doncaster is a town full of glory supporting w@nk£rs!

We're not a Championship club, we never will be? Without realising it, you've just made the most negative post on this thread.

Fine line between negative and realistic..... I also feel this team is nowhere near the Championship, ...a good top end league one team flirting with the play off group is all I see,  however I am open to being proven wrong over the next 3 seasons,
I have eyes , I see the limitations, and I see a good team doing well..........just not well enough yet!