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Title: News Coverage
Post by: foxbat on April 01, 2020, 08:57:02 pm
Will Channel 4 please cancel all other shows & put C4 News on 24/7 as a matter of urgency, until this crisis is over

The UK needs a news programme which tells us the truth & C4 News does this

All SKY & BBC News do is scramble round looking for someone who will LIE for the gov't
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Ldr on April 01, 2020, 08:58:03 pm
Tinfoil hat on order for you mate
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: foxbat on April 02, 2020, 01:51:23 pm
Wakey wakey, BBC...

everyone else has stopped repeating the privately briefed excuses of this shambolic goverment and started reporting the *fact* that it has failed to implement a coherent strategy
👇🏽
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 02, 2020, 03:56:49 pm
I find the difference is the bbc report what people say. Channel 4 report opinions on it.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Bentley Bullet on April 02, 2020, 04:41:36 pm
People read and watch what they want to see and hear.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on April 02, 2020, 04:51:58 pm
I find the difference is the bbc report what people say. Channel 4 report opinions on it.

Like that example during the Election campaign you mean? Where Kuenssberg reported that a Labour activist had thumped a Tory worker outside a hospital?

That was reporting what a person said. The person in question being Dominic Cummings.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: wilts rover on April 02, 2020, 05:07:46 pm
I find the difference is the bbc report what people say. Channel 4 report opinions on it.

Like that example during the Election campaign you mean? Where Kuenssberg reported that a Labour activist had thumped a Tory worker outside a hospital?

That was reporting what a person said. The person in question being Dominic Cummings.

Or more pertinently when the government finally realised that 'herd immunity' was a disaster and was set to kill 500000 people, she reported that 'the science has changed'.

No the science of a highly contagious and fatal virus stayed the same - the farcical government reaction to tackling changed.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on April 02, 2020, 05:12:09 pm
And that is the problem.

Kuenssberg and to a lesser extent, Peston, deliver "news" which is actually information drip fed out to them by No 10. It is shit, lazy journalism, whereby they cannot do hyper critical stuff because their access would be cut off.

And that is me speaking as someone who is a big supporter of the BBC. I just think it has totally lost it's way on what political reporting should be.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: scawsby steve on April 02, 2020, 05:28:17 pm
And that is the problem.

Kuenssberg and to a lesser extent, Peston, deliver "news" which is actually information drip fed out to them by No 10. It is shit, lazy journalism, whereby they cannot do hyper critical stuff because their access would be cut off.

And that is me speaking as someone who is a big supporter of the BBC. I just think it has totally lost it's way on what political reporting should be.

You mean it's no longer telling you the things you want to hear.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on April 02, 2020, 05:29:44 pm
No SS. I meant what I actually said.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: foxbat on April 02, 2020, 07:15:54 pm
BBC seem happy to go from one promise to the next.
They’re covering it like a Tory party election campaign.

Take the top line from the day’s briefing and lead the news with it.
Hopeless. . The real story is what is happening right now.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 02, 2020, 07:22:45 pm
And that is the problem.

Kuenssberg and to a lesser extent, Peston, deliver "news" which is actually information drip fed out to them by No 10. It is shit, lazy journalism, whereby they cannot do hyper critical stuff because their access would be cut off.

And that is me speaking as someone who is a big supporter of the BBC. I just think it has totally lost it's way on what political reporting should be.

You mean it's no longer telling you the things you want to hear.

The truth?
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: drfchound on April 02, 2020, 09:11:41 pm
Why don’t the people who dislike the BBC reporting just listen to ITV instead and see what they have to say.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: scawsby steve on April 03, 2020, 03:16:09 am
And that is the problem.

Kuenssberg and to a lesser extent, Peston, deliver "news" which is actually information drip fed out to them by No 10. It is shit, lazy journalism, whereby they cannot do hyper critical stuff because their access would be cut off.

And that is me speaking as someone who is a big supporter of the BBC. I just think it has totally lost it's way on what political reporting should be.

You mean it's no longer telling you the things you want to hear.

The truth?

According to who? You?
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 03, 2020, 08:52:00 am
I find the difference is the bbc report what people say. Channel 4 report opinions on it.

Like that example during the Election campaign you mean? Where Kuenssberg reported that a Labour activist had thumped a Tory worker outside a hospital?

That was reporting what a person said. The person in question being Dominic Cummings.

I don't disagree, they should check their information in political reporting certainly a little more than they do.  I do though think channel 4 build up a narrative that often suits them, certainly did in Brexit coverage, not so in others.  I'm not a huge fan of news presenters spouting opinions of any kind on any side of an argument, there are plenty of other programmes and shows for that.  I'm not a huge fan of Sky news in a lot of ways but I do often like that they'll have debates with conflicting opinions which allows the viewer to form their own opinion.

Foxbat, the BBC are reporting what the politicians and leaders of the country say, it is right they do that.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Filo on April 03, 2020, 09:01:55 am
I find the difference is the bbc report what people say. Channel 4 report opinions on it.

Like that example during the Election campaign you mean? Where Kuenssberg reported that a Labour activist had thumped a Tory worker outside a hospital?

That was reporting what a person said. The person in question being Dominic Cummings.

I don't disagree, they should check their information in political reporting certainly a little more than they do.  I do though think channel 4 build up a narrative that often suits them, certainly did in Brexit coverage, not so in others.  I'm not a huge fan of news presenters spouting opinions of any kind on any side of an argument, there are plenty of other programmes and shows for that.  I'm not a huge fan of Sky news in a lot of ways but I do often like that they'll have debates with conflicting opinions which allows the viewer to form their own opinion.

Foxbat, the BBC are reporting what the politicians and leaders of the country say, it is right they do that.

Is it right that they cut the daily briefing though?
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 03, 2020, 09:26:05 am
And that is the problem.

Kuenssberg and to a lesser extent, Peston, deliver "news" which is actually information drip fed out to them by No 10. It is shit, lazy journalism, whereby they cannot do hyper critical stuff because their access would be cut off.

And that is me speaking as someone who is a big supporter of the BBC. I just think it has totally lost it's way on what political reporting should be.

You mean it's no longer telling you the things you want to hear.

The truth?

According to who? You?

What? I'm saying people want to hear the truth. Not according to anyone, just y'know the truth...?
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: Iberian Red on April 03, 2020, 11:41:03 am
I form all my educated opinions from some bloke I heard on the radio the other day.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: drfchound on April 03, 2020, 12:44:04 pm
I find the difference is the bbc report what people say. Channel 4 report opinions on it.

Like that example during the Election campaign you mean? Where Kuenssberg reported that a Labour activist had thumped a Tory worker outside a hospital?

That was reporting what a person said. The person in question being Dominic Cummings.

I don't disagree, they should check their information in political reporting certainly a little more than they do.  I do though think channel 4 build up a narrative that often suits them, certainly did in Brexit coverage, not so in others.  I'm not a huge fan of news presenters spouting opinions of any kind on any side of an argument, there are plenty of other programmes and shows for that.  I'm not a huge fan of Sky news in a lot of ways but I do often like that they'll have debates with conflicting opinions which allows the viewer to form their own opinion.

Foxbat, the BBC are reporting what the politicians and leaders of the country say, it is right they do that.

Is it right that they cut the daily briefing though?







I have only seen that happen once.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: foxbat on April 04, 2020, 03:27:59 pm
RE:

Foxbat, the BBC are reporting what the politicians and leaders of the country say, it is right they do that.

that's fine as long as they are explaining it is what the leaders of the country are saying

and not reporting it as actual fact.
Title: Re: News Coverage
Post by: selby on April 04, 2020, 04:13:46 pm
I would have thought someone like you would have watched the TV Iberian, it is easier with pictures at your age.