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I find the difference is the bbc report what people say. Channel 4 report opinions on it.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 02, 2020, 03:56:49 pmI find the difference is the bbc report what people say. Channel 4 report opinions on it.Like that example during the Election campaign you mean? Where Kuenssberg reported that a Labour activist had thumped a Tory worker outside a hospital?That was reporting what a person said. The person in question being Dominic Cummings.
And that is the problem.Kuenssberg and to a lesser extent, Peston, deliver "news" which is actually information drip fed out to them by No 10. It is shit, lazy journalism, whereby they cannot do hyper critical stuff because their access would be cut off.And that is me speaking as someone who is a big supporter of the BBC. I just think it has totally lost it's way on what political reporting should be.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 02, 2020, 05:12:09 pmAnd that is the problem.Kuenssberg and to a lesser extent, Peston, deliver "news" which is actually information drip fed out to them by No 10. It is shit, lazy journalism, whereby they cannot do hyper critical stuff because their access would be cut off.And that is me speaking as someone who is a big supporter of the BBC. I just think it has totally lost it's way on what political reporting should be.You mean it's no longer telling you the things you want to hear.
Quote from: scawsby steve on April 02, 2020, 05:28:17 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 02, 2020, 05:12:09 pmAnd that is the problem.Kuenssberg and to a lesser extent, Peston, deliver "news" which is actually information drip fed out to them by No 10. It is shit, lazy journalism, whereby they cannot do hyper critical stuff because their access would be cut off.And that is me speaking as someone who is a big supporter of the BBC. I just think it has totally lost it's way on what political reporting should be.You mean it's no longer telling you the things you want to hear.The truth?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 02, 2020, 04:51:58 pmQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 02, 2020, 03:56:49 pmI find the difference is the bbc report what people say. Channel 4 report opinions on it.Like that example during the Election campaign you mean? Where Kuenssberg reported that a Labour activist had thumped a Tory worker outside a hospital?That was reporting what a person said. The person in question being Dominic Cummings.I don't disagree, they should check their information in political reporting certainly a little more than they do. I do though think channel 4 build up a narrative that often suits them, certainly did in Brexit coverage, not so in others. I'm not a huge fan of news presenters spouting opinions of any kind on any side of an argument, there are plenty of other programmes and shows for that. I'm not a huge fan of Sky news in a lot of ways but I do often like that they'll have debates with conflicting opinions which allows the viewer to form their own opinion.Foxbat, the BBC are reporting what the politicians and leaders of the country say, it is right they do that.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on April 02, 2020, 07:22:45 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 02, 2020, 05:28:17 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 02, 2020, 05:12:09 pmAnd that is the problem.Kuenssberg and to a lesser extent, Peston, deliver "news" which is actually information drip fed out to them by No 10. It is shit, lazy journalism, whereby they cannot do hyper critical stuff because their access would be cut off.And that is me speaking as someone who is a big supporter of the BBC. I just think it has totally lost it's way on what political reporting should be.You mean it's no longer telling you the things you want to hear.The truth?According to who? You?
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 03, 2020, 08:52:00 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 02, 2020, 04:51:58 pmQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 02, 2020, 03:56:49 pmI find the difference is the bbc report what people say. Channel 4 report opinions on it.Like that example during the Election campaign you mean? Where Kuenssberg reported that a Labour activist had thumped a Tory worker outside a hospital?That was reporting what a person said. The person in question being Dominic Cummings.I don't disagree, they should check their information in political reporting certainly a little more than they do. I do though think channel 4 build up a narrative that often suits them, certainly did in Brexit coverage, not so in others. I'm not a huge fan of news presenters spouting opinions of any kind on any side of an argument, there are plenty of other programmes and shows for that. I'm not a huge fan of Sky news in a lot of ways but I do often like that they'll have debates with conflicting opinions which allows the viewer to form their own opinion.Foxbat, the BBC are reporting what the politicians and leaders of the country say, it is right they do that.Is it right that they cut the daily briefing though?