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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Padge_DRFC on December 02, 2020, 07:57:49 pm
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Awful. Much worse than Sunderland. Never seen so many mis placed passes. Sunday league first touches. That was awful. Hopefully Moore goes psycho on the lot of them. Changes needed already at half time. Get Copps on for starters to keep hold of the ball
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We appear to be saying this every week. Has anybody thought we might just actually be an average mid table side?
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Nah we're the best in the league by mile and are playing shite clearly ;)
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Yep this level of performance isn't acceptable though.
We will always be that side that's always if we win our 4 games in hand we'll be 6th team.
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We appear to be saying this every week. Has anybody thought we might just actually be an average mid table side?
I've always thought it. Don't know why we always get so excited at the start of every season.
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Has anyone considered we’re up against a decent Hull side you can see why they’re flying
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Has anyone considered we’re up against a decent Hull side you can see why they’re flying
So that's why we can't control a ball and complete a 5 yard pass.
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We are only the second team to score at the KCOM in the league this season.
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Fair to anyone trying to find positives from that shower of shite.
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Crikey, here we go all the usual suspects out in force again as soon as we lose.
We played very well 2nd half and in the end were a bit unlucky not to get a point.
Hull are not top for no reason are they.
No we are not a mid table team and am very confident we can make the top 6.
Some of you lot need to get out more I think. Pathetic negativity being spouted.
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Fair to anyone trying to find positives from that shower of shite.
Call yourself a supporter. Hope we don’t have too many like you. :headbang:
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Perspective required. We’ve lost 2-1 away. Against the team top of the league.
Peterborough have just lost away to Wimbledon. A team we drew with and everyone lambasted the team. We are doing ok
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Awful. Much worse than Sunderland. Never seen so many mis placed passes. Sunday league first touches. That was awful. Hopefully Moore goes psycho on the lot of them. Changes needed already at half time. Get Copps on for starters to keep hold of the ball
What worse than being 0-2 down to Blackpool. Let’s face facts Hull a Championship side and can back their manager with quality where it counts . Rovers played well enough but struggle to put teams under pressure for long periods unlike Hull who had us chasing shadows for most of the game . Some poor performances from Smith Sims and Andrews didn’t help .
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Awful. Much worse than Sunderland. Never seen so many mis placed passes. Sunday league first touches. That was awful. Hopefully Moore goes psycho on the lot of them. Changes needed already at half time. Get Copps on for starters to keep hold of the ball
What worse than being 0-2 down to Blackpool. Let’s face facts Hull a Championship side and can back their manager with quality where it counts . Rovers played well enough but struggle to put teams under pressure for long periods unlike Hull who had us chasing shadows for most of the game . Some poor performances from Smith Sims and Andrews didn’t help .
Andrews??
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Fair to anyone trying to find positives from that shower of shite.
Call yourself a supporter. Hope we don’t have too many like you. :headbang:
Well, thing is, he can call himself a supporter. As much as a right to that as anyone else for that matter. It’s just he might have a different perspective to you. Probably should learn to except that. Your blind optimism, as great as it is, doesn’t work for all and sundry.
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Crikey, here we go all the usual suspects out in force again as soon as we lose.
We played very well 2nd half and in the end were a bit unlucky not to get a point.
Hull are not top for no reason are they.
No we are not a mid table team and am very confident we can make the top 6.
Some of you lot need to get out more I think. Pathetic negativity being spouted.
Yes all those things we can do in lockdown tier 3.....
Always helps I guess for you having Leeds United to fall back on.
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Awful. Much worse than Sunderland. Never seen so many mis placed passes. Sunday league first touches. That was awful. Hopefully Moore goes psycho on the lot of them. Changes needed already at half time. Get Copps on for starters to keep hold of the ball
What worse than being 0-2 down to Blackpool. Let’s face facts Hull a Championship side and can back their manager with quality where it counts . Rovers played well enough but struggle to put teams under pressure for long periods unlike Hull who had us chasing shadows for most of the game . Some poor performances from Smith Sims and Andrews didn’t help .
Andrews. Who do you really mean?
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I also apologise to Tom Anderson for being included in this. Best player by a mile tonight
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I think the frustration is not that we lost, it is that whether against good teams like Hull or very average teams, it is the same problems that go unsolved - slow starts, isolated striker, nearly always concede, keeper fragility, inability to break out of a high opposition press when we are playing out from back.
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There are a few contenders... Plymouth away 1st half, Sunderland and Blackpool 1st halves.
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Fair to anyone trying to find positives from that shower of shite.
Call yourself a supporter. Hope we don’t have too many like you. :headbang:
Well, thing is, he can call himself a supporter. As much as a right to that as anyone else for that matter. It’s just he might have a different perspective to you. Probably should learn to except that. Your blind optimism, as great as it is, doesn’t work for all and sundry.
No one said he doesn’t have a right to say what he wants. But I have a right to disagree don’t I.
Calling us Shite is way way beyond what I saw tonight against the best team in the league so far this season.
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We played well for 15 mins either side of our goal.
John jules coming on and playing two up front made a massive difference
If Moore doesn’t play them both upfront on Saturday then questions clearly need to be asked
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Fair to anyone trying to find positives from that shower of shite.
Call yourself a supporter. Hope we don’t have too many like you. :headbang:
Well, thing is, he can call himself a supporter. As much as a right to that as anyone else for that matter. It’s just he might have a different perspective to you. Probably should learn to except that. Your blind optimism, as great as it is, doesn’t work for all and sundry.
No one said he doesn’t have a right to say what he wants. But I have a right to disagree don’t I.
Calling us Shite is way way beyond what I saw tonight against the best team in the league so far this season.
We were shocking in the first
No doubt about that
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OP and others way over the top. Need some perspective.
Yes, was a poor first half. Our passing was tentative after a few went astray due to the crap pitch and we made it too easy for Hull. Everyone was at it. Poor control, over playing the ball into trouble and to cap that, ref fell for Wilks play acting.
Recovered a bit second half but still some unforced errors. Once we scored I thought we might nick it but I'll give Lumley the benefit of doubt as it looked like he was unsettled by a deflection. Made a couple of good saves after that.
No point looking for scapegoats as it was a collective thing. No great damage losing there.
Dust ourselves down and move on to better things.
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Crikey, here we go all the usual suspects out in force again as soon as we lose.
We played very well 2nd half and in the end were a bit unlucky not to get a point.
Hull are not top for no reason are they.
No we are not a mid table team and am very confident we can make the top 6.
Some of you lot need to get out more I think. Pathetic negativity being spouted.
Yes all those things we can do in lockdown tier 3.....
Always helps I guess for you having Leeds United to fall back on.
That’s pathetic Padge and you are well out of order. You just can’t resist can you.
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We played well for 15 mins either side of our goal.
John jules coming on and playing two up front made a massive difference
If Moore doesn’t play them both upfront on Saturday then questions clearly need to be asked
Why? He's the manager not us!
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Fair to anyone trying to find positives from that shower of shite.
Call yourself a supporter. Hope we don’t have too many like you. :headbang:
Well, thing is, he can call himself a supporter. As much as a right to that as anyone else for that matter. It’s just he might have a different perspective to you. Probably should learn to except that. Your blind optimism, as great as it is, doesn’t work for all and sundry.
No one said he doesn’t have a right to say what he wants. But I have a right to disagree don’t I.
Calling us Shite is way way beyond what I saw tonight against the best team in the league so far this season.
Yes, of course you have the right to your view as well. But, calling others pathetic for expressing theirs is always likely to get a reaction isn’t it. Not looking for an argument (I’ve actually tried to bring some perspective in other posts) but just trying to bring some balance. I can see why some are getting frustrated with our performances
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We played well for 15 mins either side of our goal.
John jules coming on and playing two up front made a massive difference
If Moore doesn’t play them both upfront on Saturday then questions clearly need to be asked
Why? He's the manager not us!
And?
So nobody is never allowed to question a manager?
Playing him upfront on his own doesn’t work, Stevie wonder can see that.
Hopefully now Moore can see it also
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Again I felt for Wright and Anderson. Maybe somebody can tell me different which i may have missed but, i didnt record a shot on or off target until the 37th minute. There is optimistic fans and then there is just pure and simple accepting defeats and powderpuff performances. Think even if we played well tonight we may have struggled. They were bigger, stronger and just ran through us at times. We need some propper misters if the club wanna compete at the top end.
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OP and others way over the top. Need some perspective.
Yes, was a poor first half. Our passing was tentative after a few went astray due to the crap pitch and we made it too easy for Hull. Everyone was at it. Poor control, over playing the ball into trouble and to cap that, ref fell for Wilks play acting.
Recovered a bit second half but still some unforced errors. Once we scored I thought we might nick it but I'll give Lumley the benefit of doubt as it looked like he was unsettled by a deflection. Made a couple of good saves after that.
No point looking for scapegoats as it was a collective thing. No great damage losing there.
Dust ourselves down and move on to better things.
Don't see how it's over the top. Of all the games this season it's one of if not the worst 45 minutes. Barring 5 minutes the second half was just as bad.
I had none Rovers fans watching this and said is this what you have to put up with every week. Fortunately not all the time
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Again I felt for Wright and Anderson. Maybe somebody can tell me different which i may have missed but, i didnt record a shot on or off target until the 37th minute. There is optimistic fans and then there is just pure and simple accepting defeats and powderpuff performances. Think even if we played well tonight we may have struggled. They were bigger, stronger and just ran through us at times tonight. We need some propper misters if the club wanna compete at the top end.
That's been the case since, well, since we last won the League One title. No bas**rds in the team.
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Im usually too optimistic, but I thought that was a very poor first half.
It certainly isnt effort, there was plenty of effort, but skill and control was the worst I have seen for a long time - it was if they had not played the game for a long time and lost the touch of the ball you get with regular play.
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I think you have to strip away the opposition. How is it that we are consistently so bad in the first half against a range of teams? We all said this time last week the Blackpool first half was dreadful and we are back there yet again.
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Again I felt for Wright and Anderson. Maybe somebody can tell me different which i may have missed but, i didnt record a shot on or off target until the 37th minute. There is optimistic fans and then there is just pure and simple accepting defeats and powderpuff performances. Think even if we played well tonight we may have struggled. They were bigger, stronger and just ran through us at times tonight. We need some propper misters if the club wanna compete at the top end.
Didn’t we have the first shot of the game.? Fej turned his defender on the edge of the box but his shot was blocked at close quarters.?
Maybe you did miss that..
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Taylor Richards just wandering around like he didn’t fancy it tonight... please get James back in at left back....Halliday got beat far too often and must have give 75% of his passes straight to a Hull player. John wasn’t far behind him, though did improve in the 2nd half. Rare off nights for Smith and Sims and Okinbirie looks like he’s played 3 divisions too high. Just not good enough... Darren please start playing players in their correct positions and change the formation because things are not working.
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Too many players had a poor game tonight, John, Smith, Richards and Sims. Zonal marking at set pieces caused problem after problem, playing a lone striker isn’t working either. Hull are a very good League 1 side and will probably go straight back up, we weren’t embarrassed but I do feel we let ourselves down and could have caused them more problems. It’s not the end of the world, play like that against Northampton though and questions will have to be asked
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I think the frustration is not that we lost, it is that whether against good teams like Hull or very average teams, it is the same problems that go unsolved - slow starts, isolated striker, nearly always concede, keeper fragility, inability to break out of a high opposition press when we are playing out from back.
This pretty well sums it up for me. I'll just add all the constant passing across the back and to & from the keeper even when not under pressure with no one in mid field creating runs into space for them to pass the ball to!
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Awful. Much worse than Sunderland. Never seen so many mis placed passes. Sunday league first touches. That was awful. Hopefully Moore goes psycho on the lot of them. Changes needed already at half time. Get Copps on for starters to keep hold of the ball
What worse than being 0-2 down to Blackpool. Let’s face facts Hull a Championship side and can back their manager with quality where it counts . Rovers played well enough but struggle to put teams under pressure for long periods unlike Hull who had us chasing shadows for most of the game . Some poor performances from Smith Sims and Andrews didn’t help .
Andrews??
Ooops I meant Richards !!!
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Peterborough lost at Wimbledon.
Charlton lost at home to MK Dons.
Wonder what their supporters are saying right now.
We just lost by 1 goal to the top of table team. We must seriously be a very poor team.
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
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Experience...... we are a young side cobbled together with a great manager
However most of the Hull lads have been there and done it
We are doing well with good football as always
Learning is a steep curve
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Nobody is saying it was a terrible result if you bother to read the posts
The concerns are warranted, the first half performances in recent weeks have been dreadful
Plymouth,
Sunderland
Blackpool
Hull
All shocking first half performances
Playing players out of position is another concern
Nobody other than you is going on about this isolated result
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Leave him be he's already getting upset easily.
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Experience...... we are a young side cobbled together with a great manager
However most of the Hull lads have been there and done it
We are doing well with good football as always
Learning is a steep curve
Great manager? I love the bloke as a person, but no way has he yet proved himself to be a great manager.
I sincerely hope that he does though.
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Good post Murham and, for me, the single biggest reason our form swings wildly. The Club’s strategy is what it is and we’re going to have this every season imho. DM’s doing the best he can with what he’s got.
Compare tonight’s midfield with what McCann had when he was manager. It makes you sit back and think. Some of these young lads have had no previous league experience and it’s showing.
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It shows why Wales are crap. Kane is probably 100 in line to get a call up for England. Smith is in the Wales team.
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Peterborough lost at Wimbledon.
Charlton lost at home to MK Dons.
Wonder what their supporters are saying right now.
We just lost by 1 goal to the top of table team. We must seriously be a very poor team.
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
Camps all, you are not addressing the issue that posters are being negative about....
We are not playing very well and making other teams look a lot better than they are.... not necessarily because we have inferior players, though in some cases we do...we are not balanced, we have players playing out of position and we have a style of play that can reap results with the right players doing it......the problem is that we haven’t!
Which means we spend half the game trying to make something work that in all seriousness....just isn’t
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Nobody is saying it was a terrible result if you bother to read the posts
The concerns are warranted, the first half performances in recent weeks have been dreadful
Plymouth,
Sunderland
Blackpool
Hull
All shocking first half performances
Playing players out of position is another concern
Nobody other than you is going on about this isolated result
And I have said as much myself if you would care to read my posts.
This is not an easy league. Very few poor teams in it. Not many outstanding ones either from what I have seen either.
But if anyone thinks this relatively young side we have are going to put 90+ mins of consistency together match after match is living in cloud cookoo land.
We will grow stronger as the season goes on. There is a lot of ability in this squad.
Only 13 games played. 33 more to play. We are not even 1/3rd through yet.
The over reaction to every defeat we have is quite laughable by the same people time after time.
Constructive criticism is fine but some of the adjectives used to describe the team are shameful IMO
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Good post Murham and, for me, the single biggest reason our form swings wildly. The Club’s strategy is what it is and we’re going to have this every season imho. DM’s doing the best he can with what he’s got.
Compare tonight’s midfield with what McCann had when he was manager. It makes you sit back and think. Some of these young lads have had no previous league experience and it’s showing.
It's also showing that some of them are being played out of position.
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Crikey, here we go all the usual suspects out in force again as soon as we lose.
We played very well 2nd half and in the end were a bit unlucky not to get a point.
Hull are not top for no reason are they.
No we are not a mid table team and am very confident we can make the top 6.
Some of you lot need to get out more I think. Pathetic negativity being spouted.
I hope to be proven wrong but I really don’t think we will finish better than 10th this season.
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The second half against Carlisle wasn't much better either. Did we have a shot in that second half? Darren keeps saying where we need to improve so the players either aren't listening or they just can't do it. A decent manager now would see it's not working and pick a system suitable to the players available. For me Copps in the No.10 role none of this sticking him out on the left or on the bench.
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Crikey, here we go all the usual suspects out in force again as soon as we lose.
We played very well 2nd half and in the end were a bit unlucky not to get a point.
Hull are not top for no reason are they.
No we are not a mid table team and am very confident we can make the top 6.
Some of you lot need to get out more I think. Pathetic negativity being spouted.
I hope to be proven wrong but I really don’t think we will finish better than 10th this season.
Think you will be wrong hound. If we don’t i am sure you will remind me. :)
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Almost a third of the season done now which is when the table starts to take shape.
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Nobody is saying it was a terrible result if you bother to read the posts
The concerns are warranted, the first half performances in recent weeks have been dreadful
Plymouth,
Sunderland
Blackpool
Hull
All shocking first half performances
Playing players out of position is another concern
Nobody other than you is going on about this isolated result
And I have said as much myself if you would care to read my posts.
This is not an easy league. Very few poor teams in it. Not many outstanding ones either from what I have seen either.
But if anyone thinks this relatively young side we have are going to put 90+ mins of consistency together match after match is living in cloud cookoo land.
We will grow stronger as the season goes on. There is a lot of ability in this squad.
Only 13 games played. 33 more to play. We are not even 1/3rd through yet.
The over reaction to every defeat we have is quite laughable by the same people time after time.
Constructive criticism is fine but some of the adjectives used to describe the team are shameful IMO
Most of the criticism is constructive but you just get too defensive about it.
Also you’re doing it again, nobody at all has said they should be putting in 90 mins good performances each week no idea where you’ve got that from.
All people are saying is over the last 6 weeks or so our first half performances have been dreadful.
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Nobody is saying it was a terrible result if you bother to read the posts
The concerns are warranted, the first half performances in recent weeks have been dreadful
Plymouth,
Sunderland
Blackpool
Hull
All shocking first half performances
Playing players out of position is another concern
Nobody other than you is going on about this isolated result
And I have said as much myself if you would care to read my posts.
This is not an easy league. Very few poor teams in it. Not many outstanding ones either from what I have seen either.
But if anyone thinks this relatively young side we have are going to put 90+ mins of consistency together match after match is living in cloud cookoo land.
We will grow stronger as the season goes on. There is a lot of ability in this squad.
Only 13 games played. 33 more to play. We are not even 1/3rd through yet.
The over reaction to every defeat we have is quite laughable by the same people time after time.
Constructive criticism is fine but some of the adjectives used to describe the team are shameful IMO
I think 45 mins of consistency would be a start,....13 games played and we still have players looking under par and under confident.....
I’m believe you were one of those that said we have probably the best back four in this league?
and you meant: Halliday,Wright,Anderson, James ..... a strong well drilled wall that could stop any strike force, and was the foundation for our best passages of play......
Unfortunately not many would disagree ......
But we now look disjointed, unbalanced, and vulnerable.....
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Peterborough lost at Wimbledon.
Charlton lost at home to MK Dons.
Wonder what their supporters are saying right now.
We just lost by 1 goal to the top of table team. We must seriously be a very poor team.
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
We were a very lucky team to only lose 2-1 and we were poor in too many positions tonight. What's with the obsession of having to pass everything back to the keeper? How many times do we get a free kick just inside our own half and pass the ball backwards. At times we either appear to be too negative or nobody wants to take the responsibility of going forward
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Nobody is saying it was a terrible result if you bother to read the posts
The concerns are warranted, the first half performances in recent weeks have been dreadful
Plymouth,
Sunderland
Blackpool
Hull
All shocking first half performances
Playing players out of position is another concern
Nobody other than you is going on about this isolated result
And I have said as much myself if you would care to read my posts.
This is not an easy league. Very few poor teams in it. Not many outstanding ones either from what I have seen either.
But if anyone thinks this relatively young side we have are going to put 90+ mins of consistency together match after match is living in cloud cookoo land.
We will grow stronger as the season goes on. There is a lot of ability in this squad.
Only 13 games played. 33 more to play. We are not even 1/3rd through yet.
The over reaction to every defeat we have is quite laughable by the same people time after time.
Constructive criticism is fine but some of the adjectives used to describe the team are shameful IMO
I think 45 mins of consistency would be a start,....13 games played and we still have players looking under par and under confident.....
I’m believe you were one of those that said we have probably the best back four in this league?
and you meant: Halliday,Wright,Anderson, James ..... a strong well drilled wall that could stop any strike force, and was the foundation for our best passages of play......
Unfortunately not many would disagree ......
But we now look disjointed, unbalanced, and vulnerable.....
Well I would prefer James at left back if that is what you mean by un balanced.
But yes I do think we have a very good back 4. It would be better balanced with James as John is not in his best position at left back. I think James would get forward more by playing there as well. John seems reluctant to try and go past his man when in the last 3rd. Seems happy to play the ball backwards.
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Nobody is saying it was a terrible result if you bother to read the posts
The concerns are warranted, the first half performances in recent weeks have been dreadful
Plymouth,
Sunderland
Blackpool
Hull
All shocking first half performances
Playing players out of position is another concern
Nobody other than you is going on about this isolated result
And I have said as much myself if you would care to read my posts.
This is not an easy league. Very few poor teams in it. Not many outstanding ones either from what I have seen either.
But if anyone thinks this relatively young side we have are going to put 90+ mins of consistency together match after match is living in cloud cookoo land.
We will grow stronger as the season goes on. There is a lot of ability in this squad.
Only 13 games played. 33 more to play. We are not even 1/3rd through yet.
The over reaction to every defeat we have is quite laughable by the same people time after time.
Constructive criticism is fine but some of the adjectives used to describe the team are shameful IMO
The thing is we have a minimum level of performance what we demand from the players and manager and they're currently not meeting that, especially in the first half performances, results aside. If you then take into account our defensive record of 2 clean sheets in 13 games it's not enough. Were not asking for Moore to be sacked or anything, we just want more.
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Peterborough lost at Wimbledon.
Charlton lost at home to MK Dons.
Wonder what their supporters are saying right now.
We just lost by 1 goal to the top of table team. We must seriously be a very poor team.
:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
We were a very lucky team to only lose 2-1 and we were poor in too many positions tonight. What's with the obsession of having to pass everything back to the keeper? How many times do we get a free kick just inside our own half and pass the ball backwards. At times we either appear to be too negative or nobody wants to take the responsibility of going forward
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Surely it's about getting them to press us so that it opens up space so we can play in the gaps?
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1st halves against MK Dons and Crewe? Both also very poor. But this 1st half bad performance problem goes back to last season as well as this. What we are seeing now is a team with lots of endeavour but a manager who is set in his ways and clearly not getting the best out of his team for whatever reason. In attacking areas in particular. I can accept the defeat tonight but not getting basic first touches and passes right is hard to stomach. The distance between striker and midfielders tonight was phenominal from minute 1, we created nothing and he waited until 64mins to change it.
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It’s becoming a theme that we are really poor in the first half. It needs addressing quickly. I’m not sure I buy that it’s a strong league with lots of good teams in it I actually think it’s quite weak
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Blah blah blah. Do some of you think we will win every game. If so, very delusional. It’s a tough league. We have a lot of quality players, doesn’t always work, but they give there best. Win, lose or draw, we have a fantastic club that is run well. They are proud to support the community and keep in touch without us (the fans ).
Isn’t it better to support a well run club!
Yes we want success, but, we have a club to support and be proud of
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Experience...... we are a young side cobbled together with a great manager
However most of the Hull lads have been there and done it
We are doing well with good football as always
Learning is a steep curve
the problem with it being a learning curve and having so many loan players(not that there is a choice at the minute) is by the time they have learned and got that little bit more experience they will have gone back to there parent clubs
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Awful. Much worse than Sunderland. Never seen so many mis placed passes. Sunday league first touches. That was awful. Hopefully Moore goes psycho on the lot of them. Changes needed already at half time. Get Copps on for starters to keep hold of the ball
What worse than being 0-2 down to Blackpool. Let’s face facts Hull a Championship side and can back their manager with quality where it counts . Rovers played well enough but struggle to put teams under pressure for long periods unlike Hull who had us chasing shadows for most of the game . Some poor performances from Smith Sims and Andrews didn’t help .
Andrews. Who do you really mean?
I agree. Danny Andrews was shocking. Barely touched the ball....
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Worst 45mins coincidently against the best team in the league. Hulls press in that first half was sensational.
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Worst 45mins coincidently against the best team in the league. Hulls press in that first half was sensational.
Agreed. They worked hard to stop us. That gave them the platform to wrestle control of the game from about the 20th minute onwards. They made us rush passes and we never really had a free man unless we broke the lines.
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Most sides seem to be able to operate an effective press against us for much of the game. If sides good and average are doing that to us regularly, perhaps we should be thinking of a plan b?
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I get nervous when Rovers are in the Championship and playing the big boys. Those big boys (Charlton, Wigan, Hull, Sunderland, Ipswich and more) are now all down in our league. Their fans have the right the whinge about their clubs, but we are doing well to be where we are. Win our 2 games in hand and we could be comfortably in the playoffs against these clubs. It's a really tough league and it's hard to realistically assess ourselves when we are so many games adrift, like other clubs.
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There is an issue with consistency. Just as Posh, Sunderland, Portsmouth, Ipswich etc are also struggling with it!
For our passing game to work, it has to be slick and everyone switched on and finding space. When a cog, or cogs in the wheel are not quite on it, it can be awful. You could see many of our players were too tentative, just too concerned about controlling the ball and struggling with the weight of the pass.
By enlarge this season, given or injuries and having to play players in diffrerenr roles, we have recovered quite well.
I think last night, the pitch was horrible and to begin with both teams were making errors however, we didn't adjust to it well and Hull benefitted by picking up the pieces. Whiteman was playing deep. Which may have been a planned tactic to keep things tight and then break out later in the game. That's why Fejiri seems to get isolated because we couldn't keep the ball long enough to get up to him.
We know our players are capable of better collectively and individually, that's why it's not as simple as some make out.
We lost to Hull away. Worse things happen at sea.
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Funny old game innit.?
If Fej’s early shot in the first half hadn’t have been blocked by the Hull defender we could have been 1-0 up in the early minutes..
What would that have done to Hull’s game plan and performance, and to our confidence.?
As for someone saying the league is poor, what utter rubbish.. apart from occasions where one team runs away at the top or bottom, the third division is always challenging and any side can come good. Every match has the potential to be tough regardless of the opposition.
If some of our fans want easy dominant wins most games, they’re watching the wrong league..
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It's funny the difference a single goal can make to fan's perspective. If it wasn't for that last goal, fans might have said how well we played to draw 1-1 against an outstanding top side. And if we had drawn at the KCOM stadium we could beat anyone else in the league.
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It's funny the difference a single goal can make to fan's perspective. If it wasn't for that last goal, fans might have said how well we played to draw 1-1 against an outstanding top side. And if we had drawn at the KCOM stadium we could beat anyone else in the league.
No I'd have said Hull should have won 6v1 and we got away with it
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It's funny the difference a single goal can make to fan's perspective. If it wasn't for that last goal, fans might have said how well we played to draw 1-1 against an outstanding top side. And if we had drawn at the KCOM stadium we could beat anyone else in the league.
No I'd have said Hull should have won 6v1 and we got away with it
Maybe we played well enough to shut down Hull and stop them winning 6-1.
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Thank goodness we have some level headed fans who understand that there are always 2 teams playing in a match. Hull pressed us extremely well in that 1st half and are a well drilled outfit with quite a bit of experience in the team.
This is not an easy league at all. Some big clubs in it who are not finding it easy themselves.
Look at the inconsistency of Ipswich, Portsmouth, Charlton & Sunderland.
Peterborough have lost 5 games.
We are not anywhere near the finished article but 21 points from 13 games is a solid start to the season.
We have now played, Charlton, Ipswich, Portsmouth, Lincoln, Sunderland & Hull.
6 of the better teams in this league and Won 4 Drew 1 & Lost 1 so that shows to me we are more than capable of competing at the top end of this league.
We also have 2 games in hand on a number of teams above us.
Yes we need to find more consistency, but so do all the teams mentioned above. That is what every club is striving for. This is a very very competitive league.
Let’s see where we are before the Christmas games. If we can have a good run of results in our next 5 games we will be very well placed to launch a serious assault on the play off places.
I honestly think we will be stronger in the 2nd half of the season when our younger players will have gained more 1st team Football League experience.
Let’s just have a bit of perspective and level headiness about the level of performance we have seen so far. 6/10 I will give it. Let’s get that to 7/10 by Christmas and 8/10 by end of Feb & 9/10 by Easter.
Finish with a 10/10 v Posh last game.
Up the Rovers. :rtid:
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It's funny the difference a single goal can make to fan's perspective. If it wasn't for that last goal, fans might have said how well we played to draw 1-1 against an outstanding top side. And if we had drawn at the KCOM stadium we could beat anyone else in the league.
That’s exactly what everyone would have said. What a great point we got and it would have been all positive.
Many of the posters on this thread would never have even bothered to post.
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We’ve been sussed, nulify Whiteman and you nulify Doncaster Rovers, every man and his dog can see it, we need responsibility takers, at the moment we have none, someone should be dropping deeper to help Whiteman out, theres no fluidity at all
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How about, we were beaten on the night by a better team.
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How about, we were beaten on the night by a better team.
We were, but what concerns me is DM thought we were the better side and deserved to win, if he really thinks that he is deluded
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It's funny the difference a single goal can make to fan's perspective. If it wasn't for that last goal, fans might have said how well we played to draw 1-1 against an outstanding top side. And if we had drawn at the KCOM stadium we could beat anyone else in the league.
No I'd have said Hull should have won 6v1 and we got away with it
No you would not have even posted in all probability.
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It's funny the difference a single goal can make to fan's perspective. If it wasn't for that last goal, fans might have said how well we played to draw 1-1 against an outstanding top side. And if we had drawn at the KCOM stadium we could beat anyone else in the league.
No I'd have said Hull should have won 6v1 and we got away with it
No you would not have even posted in all probability.
Give it a rest now. You've already got upset twice
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It looked to me like we were 10 yards too deep for most of the game, especially 1st half, and every time the ball went up to Fejiri he had nobody running off him or even within 10 yards of him. Most of the time there wasn't another Rovers player in shot on the screen!
I think Fejiri has a lot of work to do on his hold up play but he had no chance really last night with the scraps he was feeding off.
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It's funny the difference a single goal can make to fan's perspective. If it wasn't for that last goal, fans might have said how well we played to draw 1-1 against an outstanding top side. And if we had drawn at the KCOM stadium we could beat anyone else in the league.
No I'd have said Hull should have won 6v1 and we got away with it
6-1 is absolute nonsense.
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It's funny the difference a single goal can make to fan's perspective. If it wasn't for that last goal, fans might have said how well we played to draw 1-1 against an outstanding top side. And if we had drawn at the KCOM stadium we could beat anyone else in the league.
No I'd have said Hull should have won 6v1 and we got away with it
6-1 is absolute nonsense.
Is it really though? We could quite easily have been 3 or 4 nil down at half time. We was that bad in the first half.
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Probably put nonsense and meant 9v1
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I'll show you when replays up of every chance.
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It's funny the difference a single goal can make to fan's perspective. If it wasn't for that last goal, fans might have said how well we played to draw 1-1 against an outstanding top side. And if we had drawn at the KCOM stadium we could beat anyone else in the league.
No I'd have said Hull should have won 6v1 and we got away with it
6-1 is absolute nonsense.
Is it really though? We could quite easily have been 3 or 4 nil down at half time. We was that bad in the first half.
Yes it is. No point explaining shot values to you is there.
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I'll show you when replays up of every chance.
Watched the game, watched chances back today and also seen some top model numbers on the game. About a 1% chance of that game finishing 6-1.
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It finished 1-2, we were second best but almost nicked Andrew whilst we had a decent spell in the game.
Doesn’t matter what it could have been..
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I'm hoping that there was something amiss with their pitch because that had to be the worst passage of passing play we have had for a long time, we struggled to make even the simple pass stick, it happens when you get the odd player off his game but last night seemed to be a field day for everyone. I know the opposition have a part to play in any display but we seemed full on with it, i hope we don't pay a bonus for every touch that the keeper and the centrebacks have, we would go bust!
The build up was far to slow again and we struggle to see a forward pass when its on, we seem very risk averse to changing our setup, ironically when we put the substitutions on we changed the setup and looked like we had some bite and capitalised on that to get our goal, if we have learnt anything so far its that we cant have Feji playing on his own up front,, if we insist on this then stick JJ on but our formation does not lend itself to giving the lone striker enough support,
Who knows maybe if we play this way but with some pace and directness (less back passes as it kiills our forward play) to go with some slicker passing we may still pull it out of the bag yet.
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Awful. Much worse than Sunderland. Never seen so many mis placed passes. Sunday league first touches. That was awful. Hopefully Moore goes psycho on the lot of them. Changes needed already at half time. Get Copps on for starters to keep hold of the ball
What worse than being 0-2 down to Blackpool. Let’s face facts Hull a Championship side and can back their manager with quality where it counts . Rovers played well enough but struggle to put teams under pressure for long periods unlike Hull who had us chasing shadows for most of the game . Some poor performances from Smith Sims and Andrews didn’t help .
Andrews. Who do you really mean?
I agree. Danny Andrews was shocking. Barely touched the ball....
longest legs in football
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I'll show you when replays up of every chance.
Watched the game, watched chances back today and also seen some top model numbers on the game. About a 1% chance of that game finishing 6-1.
What channel did you watch to see the top models? Were they the half time entertainment?
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It's funny the difference a single goal can make to fan's perspective. If it wasn't for that last goal, fans might have said how well we played to draw 1-1 against an outstanding top side. And if we had drawn at the KCOM stadium we could beat anyone else in the league.
No I'd have said Hull should have won 6v1 and we got away with it
No you would not have even posted in all probability.
Give it a rest now. You've already got upset twice
I am not upset Padge. Your the one who seems to have a problem with the team. Not me.
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Why can't football fans have opinions?!
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Why can't football fans have opinions?!
Who says they can’t. There are plenty of them on here.
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Why can't football fans have opinions?!
Who says they can’t. There are plenty of them on here.
You seem to cry when someone has an opinion different to yours.
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Why can't football fans have opinions?!
Who says they can%u2019t. There are plenty of them on here.
You seem to cry when someone has an opinion different to yours.
Give it a rest. How many times do I have to say on here that I am allowed to disagree with other peoples opinions. Does that mean I am crying Janso. No it does not.
Crikey I get plenty of Likes from you on my posts. Thanks for those by the way. :)
It is a forum for opinions. All opinions are fine as long as they are not abusive.
Even ones that disagree with me Ok. Have I made that one clear enough because it is about the 20th time I have said that.
My opinions are not right, they are just my opinion. Right to me possibly wrong to someone else.
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I get nervous when Rovers are in the Championship and playing the big boys. Those big boys (Charlton, Wigan, Hull, Sunderland, Ipswich and more) are now all down in our league. Their fans have the right the whinge about their clubs, but we are doing well to be where we are. Win our 2 games in hand and we could be comfortably in the playoffs against these clubs. It's a really tough league and it's hard to realistically assess ourselves when we are so many games adrift, like other clubs.
Someone posted yesterday that he was expecting someone to bring up the subject of “win our games in hand and we will be in the top six”.
That does seem to be a recurring theme for us over the last couple of seasons.
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It looked to me like we were 10 yards too deep for most of the game, especially 1st half, and every time the ball went up to Fejiri he had nobody running off him or even within 10 yards of him. Most of the time there wasn't another Rovers player in shot on the screen!
I think Fejiri has a lot of work to do on his hold up play but he had no chance really last night with the scraps he was feeding off.
It was more like twenty yards pib.
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DM seems to have a completely different take on the game than the rest of us. In the football heaven interview, the interviewer said that rovers would have been fortunate to come away with a point.. DM bluntly told him he was wrong!?!! Was he really? For me, a point would have been day light robbery.. One shot on goal all game?
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The thing is though Adam that plenty of people will soak up that comment by Moore and take it to be gospel.
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DM seems to have a completely different take on the game than the rest of us. In the football heaven interview, the interviewer said that rovers would have been fortunate to come away with a point.. DM bluntly told him he was wrong!?!! Was he really? For me, a point would have been day light robbery.. One shot on goal all game?
If DM thought we deserved a point last night then for me there is something amiss with his thinking.
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Hopefully a case of keep the strong words private in the dressing room
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Hopefully a case of keep the strong words private in the dressing room
Spot on. It won’t do the players any favours if the manager is seen to be berating them in public, even if criticism is warranted..