Worst 45 this season

[SoundbiteBarmyArmy]

Again I felt for Wright and Anderson. Maybe somebody can tell me different which i may have missed but, i didnt record a shot on or off target until the 37th minute. There is optimistic fans and then there is just pure and simple accepting defeats and powderpuff performances. Think even if we played well tonight we may have struggled. They were bigger, stronger and just ran through us at times tonight. We need some propper misters if the club wanna compete at the top end.

That's been the case since, well, since we last won the League One title. No bas**rds in the team.

[jmt23]

Im usually too optimistic, but I thought that was a very poor first half.

It certainly isnt effort, there was plenty of effort, but skill and control was the worst I have seen for a long time - it was if they had not played the game for a long time and lost the touch of the ball you get with regular play.

[Chris Black come back]

I think you have to strip away the opposition. How is it that we are consistently so bad in the first half against a range of teams? We all said this time last week the Blackpool first half was dreadful and we are back there yet again.

[IDM]

Again I felt for Wright and Anderson. Maybe somebody can tell me different which i may have missed but, i didnt record a shot on or off target until the 37th minute. There is optimistic fans and then there is just pure and simple accepting defeats and powderpuff performances. Think even if we played well tonight we may have struggled. They were bigger, stronger and just ran through us at times tonight. We need some propper misters if the club wanna compete at the top end.

Didn’t we have the first shot of the game.?  Fej turned his defender on the edge of the box but his shot was blocked at close quarters.?

Maybe you did miss that..

[Retdon1]

Taylor Richards just wandering around like he didn’t fancy it tonight... please get James back in at left back....Halliday got beat far too often and must have give 75% of his passes straight to a Hull player. John wasn’t far behind him, though did improve in the 2nd half. Rare off nights for Smith and Sims and Okinbirie looks like he’s played 3 divisions too high. Just not good enough... Darren please start playing players in their correct positions and change the formation because things are not working.

[DearneValleyRover]

Too many players had a poor game tonight, John, Smith, Richards and Sims. Zonal marking at set pieces caused problem after problem, playing a lone striker isn’t working either. Hull are a very good League 1 side and will probably go straight back up, we weren’t embarrassed but I do feel we let ourselves down and could have caused them more problems. It’s not the end of the world, play like that against Northampton though and questions will have to be asked

[Not Now Kato]

I think the frustration is not that we lost, it is that whether against good teams like Hull or very average teams, it is the same problems that go unsolved - slow starts, isolated striker, nearly always concede, keeper fragility, inability to break out of a high opposition press when we are playing out from back.

This pretty well sums it up for me.  I'll just add all the constant passing across the back and to & from the keeper even when not under pressure with no one in mid field creating runs into space for them to pass the ball to!

[since-1969]

Awful. Much worse than Sunderland. Never seen so many mis placed passes. Sunday league first touches. That was awful. Hopefully Moore goes psycho on the lot of them. Changes needed already at half time. Get Copps on for starters to keep hold of the ball

What  worse than being 0-2 down to Blackpool. Let’s face facts Hull a Championship side and can back their manager with quality where it counts . Rovers played well enough but struggle to put teams under pressure for long periods unlike Hull who had us chasing shadows for most of the game . Some poor performances from Smith Sims and Andrews didn’t help .

Andrews??

Ooops I meant Richards !!!

[Campsall rover]

Peterborough lost at Wimbledon.
Charlton lost at home to MK Dons.

Wonder what their supporters are saying right now.

We just lost by 1 goal to the top of table team. We must seriously be a very poor team.

 

[murham]

Experience...... we are a young side cobbled together with a great manager
However most of the Hull lads have been there and done it
We are doing well with good football as always
Learning is a steep curve

[dickos1]

Nobody is saying it was a terrible result if you bother to read the posts
The concerns are warranted, the first half performances in recent weeks have been dreadful
Plymouth,
Sunderland
Blackpool
Hull

All shocking first half performances

Playing players out of position is another concern

Nobody other than you is going on about this isolated result

[Padge_DRFC]

Leave him be he's already getting upset easily.

[scawsby steve]

Experience...... we are a young side cobbled together with a great manager
However most of the Hull lads have been there and done it
We are doing well with good football as always
Learning is a steep curve

Great manager? I love the bloke as a person, but no way has he yet proved himself to be a great manager.

I sincerely hope that he does though.

[Alan Southstand]

Good post Murham and, for me, the single biggest reason our form swings wildly. The Club’s strategy is what it is and we’re going to have this every season imho. DM’s doing the best he can with what he’s got.

Compare tonight’s midfield with what McCann had when he was manager. It makes you sit back and think. Some of these young lads have had no previous league experience and it’s showing.

[Padge_DRFC]

It shows why Wales are crap. Kane is probably 100 in line to get a call up for England. Smith is in the Wales team.

[sha66y]

Peterborough lost at Wimbledon.
Charlton lost at home to MK Dons.

Wonder what their supporters are saying right now.

We just lost by 1 goal to the top of table team. We must seriously be a very poor team.

 

Camps all, you are not addressing the issue that posters are being negative about....

We are not playing very well and making other teams look a lot better than they are.... not necessarily because we have inferior players, though in some cases we do...we are not balanced, we have players playing out of position and we have a style of play that can reap results with the right players doing it......the problem is that we haven’t!
Which means we spend half the game trying to make something work that in all seriousness....just isn’t

[Campsall rover]

Nobody is saying it was a terrible result if you bother to read the posts
The concerns are warranted, the first half performances in recent weeks have been dreadful
Plymouth,
Sunderland
Blackpool
Hull

All shocking first half performances

Playing players out of position is another concern

Nobody other than you is going on about this isolated result

And I have said as much myself if you would care to read my posts. 

This is not an easy league. Very few poor teams in it. Not many outstanding ones either from what I have seen either.
But if anyone thinks this relatively young side we have are going to put 90+ mins of consistency together match after match is living in cloud cookoo land.

We will grow stronger as the season goes on. There is a lot of ability in this squad.
Only 13 games played. 33 more to play. We are not even 1/3rd through yet.

The over reaction to every defeat we have is quite laughable by the same people time after time.
Constructive criticism is fine but some of the adjectives used to describe the team are shameful IMO

[scawsby steve]

Good post Murham and, for me, the single biggest reason our form swings wildly. The Club’s strategy is what it is and we’re going to have this every season imho. DM’s doing the best he can with what he’s got.

Compare tonight’s midfield with what McCann had when he was manager. It makes you sit back and think. Some of these young lads have had no previous league experience and it’s showing.

It's also showing that some of them are being played out of position.

[drfchound]

Crikey, here we go all the usual suspects out in force again as soon as we lose.

We played very well 2nd half and in the end were a bit unlucky not to get a point.

Hull are not top for no reason are they.

No we are not a mid table team and am very confident we can make the top 6.

Some of you lot need to get out more I think. Pathetic negativity being spouted.

I hope to be proven wrong but I really don’t think we will finish better than 10th this season.

[TheFunk]

The second half against Carlisle wasn't much better either. Did we have a shot in that second half? Darren keeps saying where we need to improve so the players either aren't listening or they just can't do it. A decent manager now would see it's not working and pick a system suitable to the players available. For me Copps in the No.10 role none of this sticking him out on the left or on the bench.

[Campsall rover]

Crikey, here we go all the usual suspects out in force again as soon as we lose.

We played very well 2nd half and in the end were a bit unlucky not to get a point.

Hull are not top for no reason are they.

No we are not a mid table team and am very confident we can make the top 6.

Some of you lot need to get out more I think. Pathetic negativity being spouted.

I hope to be proven wrong but I really don’t think we will finish better than 10th this season.

Think you will be wrong hound. If we don’t i am sure you will remind me.   

[drfchound]

Almost a third of the season done now which is when the table starts to take shape.

[dickos1]

Nobody is saying it was a terrible result if you bother to read the posts
The concerns are warranted, the first half performances in recent weeks have been dreadful
Plymouth,
Sunderland
Blackpool
Hull

All shocking first half performances

Playing players out of position is another concern

Nobody other than you is going on about this isolated result

And I have said as much myself if you would care to read my posts. 

This is not an easy league. Very few poor teams in it. Not many outstanding ones either from what I have seen either.
But if anyone thinks this relatively young side we have are going to put 90+ mins of consistency together match after match is living in cloud cookoo land.

We will grow stronger as the season goes on. There is a lot of ability in this squad.
Only 13 games played. 33 more to play. We are not even 1/3rd through yet.

The over reaction to every defeat we have is quite laughable by the same people time after time.
Constructive criticism is fine but some of the adjectives used to describe the team are shameful IMO

Most of the criticism is constructive but you just get too defensive about it.

Also you’re doing it again, nobody at all has said they should be putting in 90 mins good performances each week no idea where you’ve got that from.
All people are saying is over the last 6 weeks or so our first half performances have been dreadful.

[sha66y]

Nobody is saying it was a terrible result if you bother to read the posts
The concerns are warranted, the first half performances in recent weeks have been dreadful
Plymouth,
Sunderland
Blackpool
Hull

All shocking first half performances

Playing players out of position is another concern

Nobody other than you is going on about this isolated result

And I have said as much myself if you would care to read my posts. 

This is not an easy league. Very few poor teams in it. Not many outstanding ones either from what I have seen either.
But if anyone thinks this relatively young side we have are going to put 90+ mins of consistency together match after match is living in cloud cookoo land.

We will grow stronger as the season goes on. There is a lot of ability in this squad.
Only 13 games played. 33 more to play. We are not even 1/3rd through yet.

The over reaction to every defeat we have is quite laughable by the same people time after time.
Constructive criticism is fine but some of the adjectives used to describe the team are shameful IMO

I think 45 mins of consistency would be a start,....13 games played and we still have players looking under par and under confident.....

I’m believe you were one of those that said we have probably the best back four in this league?

and you meant:  Halliday,Wright,Anderson, James ..... a strong well drilled wall that could stop any strike force, and was the foundation for our best passages of play......

Unfortunately not many would disagree ......

But we now look disjointed, unbalanced, and vulnerable.....

[EasyforDennis]

Peterborough lost at Wimbledon.
Charlton lost at home to MK Dons.

Wonder what their supporters are saying right now.

We just lost by 1 goal to the top of table team. We must seriously be a very poor team.

 

We were a very lucky team to only lose 2-1 and we were poor in too many positions tonight. What's with the obsession of having to pass everything back to the keeper? How many times do we get a free kick just inside our own half and pass the ball backwards. At times we either appear to be too negative or nobody wants to take the responsibility of going forward
.

[Campsall rover]

Nobody is saying it was a terrible result if you bother to read the posts
The concerns are warranted, the first half performances in recent weeks have been dreadful
Plymouth,
Sunderland
Blackpool
Hull

All shocking first half performances

Playing players out of position is another concern

Nobody other than you is going on about this isolated result

And I have said as much myself if you would care to read my posts. 

This is not an easy league. Very few poor teams in it. Not many outstanding ones either from what I have seen either.
But if anyone thinks this relatively young side we have are going to put 90+ mins of consistency together match after match is living in cloud cookoo land.

We will grow stronger as the season goes on. There is a lot of ability in this squad.
Only 13 games played. 33 more to play. We are not even 1/3rd through yet.

The over reaction to every defeat we have is quite laughable by the same people time after time.
Constructive criticism is fine but some of the adjectives used to describe the team are shameful IMO

I think 45 mins of consistency would be a start,....13 games played and we still have players looking under par and under confident.....

I’m believe you were one of those that said we have probably the best back four in this league?

and you meant:  Halliday,Wright,Anderson, James ..... a strong well drilled wall that could stop any strike force, and was the foundation for our best passages of play......

Unfortunately not many would disagree ......

But we now look disjointed, unbalanced, and vulnerable.....

Well I would prefer James at left back if that is what you mean by un balanced.
But yes I do think we have a very good back 4. It would be better balanced with James as John is not in his best position at left back. I think James would get forward more by playing there as well. John seems reluctant to try and go past his man when in the last 3rd. Seems happy to play the ball backwards.

[DonnyOsmond]

Nobody is saying it was a terrible result if you bother to read the posts
The concerns are warranted, the first half performances in recent weeks have been dreadful
Plymouth,
Sunderland
Blackpool
Hull

All shocking first half performances

Playing players out of position is another concern

Nobody other than you is going on about this isolated result

And I have said as much myself if you would care to read my posts. 

This is not an easy league. Very few poor teams in it. Not many outstanding ones either from what I have seen either.
But if anyone thinks this relatively young side we have are going to put 90+ mins of consistency together match after match is living in cloud cookoo land.

We will grow stronger as the season goes on. There is a lot of ability in this squad.
Only 13 games played. 33 more to play. We are not even 1/3rd through yet.

The over reaction to every defeat we have is quite laughable by the same people time after time.
Constructive criticism is fine but some of the adjectives used to describe the team are shameful IMO

The thing is we have a minimum level of performance what we demand from the players and manager and they're currently not meeting that, especially in the first half performances, results aside. If you then take into account our defensive record of 2 clean sheets in 13 games it's not enough. Were not asking for Moore to be sacked or anything, we just want more.

[DonnyOsmond]

Peterborough lost at Wimbledon.
Charlton lost at home to MK Dons.

Wonder what their supporters are saying right now.

We just lost by 1 goal to the top of table team. We must seriously be a very poor team.

 

We were a very lucky team to only lose 2-1 and we were poor in too many positions tonight. What's with the obsession of having to pass everything back to the keeper? How many times do we get a free kick just inside our own half and pass the ball backwards. At times we either appear to be too negative or nobody wants to take the responsibility of going forward
.

Surely it's about getting them to press us so that it opens up space so we can play in the gaps?

[StocksArmy]

1st halves against MK Dons and Crewe? Both also very poor. But this 1st half bad performance problem goes back to last season as well as this. What we are seeing now is a team with lots of endeavour but a manager who is set in his ways and clearly not getting the best out of his team for whatever reason. In attacking areas in particular. I can accept the defeat tonight but not getting basic first touches and passes right is hard to stomach. The distance between striker and midfielders tonight was phenominal from minute 1, we created nothing and he waited until 64mins to change it.

[Donnybax]

It’s becoming a theme that we are really poor in the first half. It needs addressing quickly. I’m not sure I buy that it’s a strong league with lots of good teams in it I actually think it’s quite weak