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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: South East Rover on April 24, 2021, 09:54:54 pm
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Liam Hoden gave Jonh Bostock a 2 in player ratings, never seen lower than a 4 given a player
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That’s as much as he’s deserved since he’s been here IMO .
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Shocking that he is getting in ahead of Robertson.
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Wasn’t interested after getting kicked in first challenge
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Liam has it spot on
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Robertson started today and was replaced by Bostock who was on the bench.
Thought Bostock was extremely poor. His passing was inaccurate and his tackling was almost non existent, half hearted at best.
Having said that there was so little movement off the ball he had no one to pass it to most of the time.
The whole team would get a 2 out of 10 from me. Jones though did nothing wrong and in fact his distribution had more urgency and energy than any of the outfield players.
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Wasn’t interested after getting kicked in first challenge
It was hardly a kick, more a light tap. But Bostock did make the most of it!
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Good.
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Wow indeed. How did he get 2? I mean what did he actually do to be above 0 or 1. Presumably you get a 1 for entering the field of play so how did he get that 2nd mark?
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14 clubs, 29 years old
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Listen or read Warnocks book about his opinion of Bostock.
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https://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/the-debate-the-sad-tale-of-john-bostock-s-itinerant-odyssey_sto7742473/story.shtml
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https://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/the-debate-the-sad-tale-of-john-bostock-s-itinerant-odyssey_sto7742473/story.shtml
A very interesting article.
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Just watched the post match roundup that Liam does after each game and there is one very frustrated man, saying it as we the fans are seeing it. Well worth a watch if you haven’t seen it.
COYR
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Listen or read Warnocks book about his opinion of Bostock.
I'm guessing that's an opinion from when a 29 year old man was 15/16?
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Liam has it spot on
1 point for each completed pass maybe?
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Is There is a reason why bostock has had 300 previous clubs , think about it
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Is There is a reason why bostock has had 300 previous clubs , think about it
Probably something to do with his then-parent club loaning him out a lot.
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Just another sh*t signing from DM; and we're lumbered with him for next season.
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Just another sh*t signing from DM; and we're lumbered with him for next season.
What if he does well next season under a different manager and when team confidence isn't at rock bottom?
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Wow indeed. How did he get 2? I mean what did he actually do to be above 0 or 1. Presumably you get a 1 for entering the field of play so how did he get that 2nd mark?
Could have been for the PL quality of scream in that first tackle on him.
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Just another sh*t signing from DM; and we're lumbered with him for next season.
What if he does well next season under a different manager and when team confidence isn't at rock bottom?
I hope I'm wrong as I'm adamant there's a very high calibre player hidden away in John somewhere but I can see him just telling the club to terminate his contract so he can be on his way.
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More clubs than Tiger.
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I remember all the fuss and virtual back slapping of DM when Bostock signed for us and that people were looking at his videos a raving about how good he was going to be for us.
I have to admit that I had never heard of him before then and had an open mind with regards to how good he is/was.
On reflection, it isn’t hard to see that he does have lots of ability and on occasion he has played a defence splitting pass but in general he reminds me of Ray Wilkins (but not as good).
More often than not he plays the easy ball but that tends to be a non productive pass either backwards or square.
You can see he has a very good left foot and a good speed of thought but doesn’t seem to want to extend himself for the benefit of the team.
Maybe the right manager might get more from him.
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If something's seems too good to be true, it usually is.......I did mention this when he signed on (sorry for blowing my own trumpet). I didn't think we had signed a world beater that's for sure.
He had a couple of good games and I thought we had something, but he has been woeful recently, and getting worse.
Thing is tho: He hadn't played had a club for 8 months prior to us. He hadn't played a game for over a year. He averages a club a season so maybe something in his mindset is wrong. Maybe he is pissed off with looking up and seeing statues in red & white hoops.........
I'm interested to see what he's like after a proper preseason. The talents is there but the fitness isn't. Is the Mindset? I dunno.
For sure he needs better players around him. He needs to play in a system that suits him. Will that happen next season? Chances of him being here next season 50/50 at best.
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He’s seems more interested in his social media and YouTube channel, and I bet he’s on £10k a month as well from us
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£10k a month is average for a pro footballer I’d say?
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I bet he’s on more money than most at Rovers, contracted players
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Liam Hoden gave Jonh Bostock a 2 in player ratings, never seen lower than a 4 given a player
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Bostok has been so over rated .i am not surprised
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To put the cat firmly among the pigeons, in my view Bostock is by far the most gifted player we've ever had in my 40 years watching the Rovers. He's shown touches of class, albeit ever so briefly, that show why Barcelona were interested and he's way too good for this level as far as technical ability goes. I know almost every one of you will argue against that, but give me a chance to explain why I'm saying that without defending him.
Call it intuition, call it experience, call it having a laugh, whatever, but sometimes when you've been watching the game for long enough, there are certain players who just seem to have it. Not that they do anything with it necessarily, but that they have something about them that stands them above the rest. I'd never heard of John Bostock, or if I had, I'd since forgotten all about him, but I'll say this: Even if you knew nothing of his background, that guy has all the signs of an absolute dream of a player at the very highest level. I hope at least some of you understand where I'm coming from. I know its not working for him at present despite one or two MOM performances early on and I'll willingly agree that he seems completely uninterested right now.
I'm not sure how to describe why he doesn't make his talent work but there's something that doesn't quite click. Is it because of the class of players around him? Maybe they aren't up to his reading of the game. I see a misplaced easy pass and wonder how such a good player doesn't hit it off. Then he does it again. Is he trying too hard? Is he thinking this is somehow beneath him? I simply don't know. But I do know that there's always a reason a player so outstandingly talented fails to make the grade.
I could somehow see him being the problem in the dressing room. Not because he's a Billy big b*llocks, but because he just has something about him that doesn't fit. I'd hope that wasn't the case because he seems a nice enough guy on social media - but don't we all? However, the timing of our downturn in form would fit that very scenario (as would it being simple coincidence). We all know his history and the answer is there somewhere.
John Bostock, if you're reading this, you know you have talent to burn, you should be a premier league player, its so obvious in how you approach a ball, your balance and stance, you have it in yourself. So what's wrong? Why is it not working for you? Why hasn't it worked for you? I would love you to be the player I see you could be, to show us just how good you can be even for half a dozen matches before some bigger club takes you back where you should be. Your call John.
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Says John Bostock aka Beerseller
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Says John Bostock aka Beerseller
Ah shoot, I thought posting on here for 11 years before I signed for the Rovers would make it less obvious ;)
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Everything Beerseller's said about Bostock is true. The trouble is, the game's been full of these players over the years; Harry Forrester's another one.
It's a complete mystery as to why this happens to certain players.
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Us ordinary supporters who aren't privy to background information don't know what goes off in players' private lives that can affect their performances on the pitch. That isn't a criticism, by the way, footballers are entitled to privacy just as much as anyone else, and that's often why what happens to certain players remains a mystery, and rightly so.
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I think John has the talent to be a top player in this league.
Would love to see him taking more leadership and controlling the midfield, taking the game by the scruff of its neck like Whiteman used to.
I'm sure the current low confidence level in the group isn't helping his style.
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There's some nonsense talked about Bostock having so many clubs.
He was a talented kid who lost his way. Wasn't good enough for the Sours side he was contracted to, so was regularly loaned out.
Then when his contract ended, he took a big decision to restart his career abroad. Where he did well and won rapid moves to progressively bigger clubs in a short space of time.
There's no indication at all that he flits restlessly from club to club.
And I also agree that there is a very talented player in there. But he'd need a side building around him. The current one, the way it is set up is leaden footed, whereas he needs intelligent runners he can pick out.
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I seem to remember thinking John Doolan was absolute dog shit and a waste of a signing when he was in and out of the side in the last season of the Conference days. Once he established himself in the centre mid he was immense the following season in League One.
Hopefully Bostock will prove similar, and will benefit from being a regular starter with most of the play coming through him. Its certainly a position where you need to be in sync with the other players.
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I think Bostock gets more criticism than he deserves. U can see his quality on the ball and I think sometimes he plays passes that no other player in our team can but unfortunately the players in front of him don’t get on the end of them whether that’s because they’re not intelligent enough to make the run or they just don’t expect him to pick the pass. I also think he needs someone next to him who will do the dirty work and allow him to get further forward and help the attack.
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The guys quality, said it in previous posts, big ifs, but if we get a manager that can get the best out of him, if we get better players around him who actually move, if we get a full preseason out of him, & if he fancies it, we will have a player next season, I 'm convinced of it.
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Trouble he thinks he is bigger than the game same as PAUL POGBA
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In this league his single pace may not be helping him, given his age it is not likely something he has ever had, or to gain. I am unsure about him, yet he does show flashes of real quality, no more than the two Ben's (Whiteman & Sheaf) we had though. So who knows with a new manager or at the very least a new team he may shine.
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Bostock really isn't the problem. Scapegoat springs to mind.
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Bostock really isn't the problem. Scapegoat springs to mind.
Scapegoat for who? Most of us are saying that apart from Anderson, Taylor, and the young 'uns, the whole bloody lot should be cleared out.
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I'm going to commit sacrilege now.
Anderson hasn't been any better than the rest over this past ten games. He's looked a shadow of what he was before Balcombe wiped him out at Fleetwood.
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I'm going to commit sacrilege now.
Anderson hasn't been any better than the rest over this past ten games. He's looked a shadow of what he was before Balcombe wiped him out at Fleetwood.
Knocked the animal out of him. Fingers crossed he finds his inner pyscho again in pre season.
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I'm going to commit sacrilege now.
Anderson hasn't been any better than the rest over this past ten games. He's looked a shadow of what he was before Balcombe wiped him out at Fleetwood.
I would agree with this.
He has the strongest case by far out of the entire back line, but we need to think the unthinkable this summer with the defensive unit.
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Tom has carried a lot of responsibility though. He’s carried the rest of the ever changing back line.
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Under a good manager Bostock would run this league. He is not a Ben Whiteman replacement no matter what DM or AB think. He should be playing further forward where his talent can destroy teams. Hopefully the new manager will use him in a way that will allow him to show off his tremendous talent.