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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: selby on October 07, 2021, 01:55:01 pm
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Watched a news report this morning about the Labour led Sheffield City council stopping a Roy Chubby Brown show at the City Hall early next week despite a large protest to their actions.
Not a mention on Look North at lunchtime not surprisingly on the now WOKE BBC, but censorship of actions taken by an elected body against the wishes of a large number in their area who signed a petition wanting the show to go on.
The left need to look back in history and realise that the communists and the Nazi party started out that way.
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Actually Selby, the Communists started off assassinating the Tsar and Tsarina and the Nazis started off putting people in Dachau. I've scoured the history books and I can't find any example of them having "Step 1: Don't book shite, decades out of date comedians" in their playbook.
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Actually Selby, the Communists started off assassinating the Tsar and Tsarina and the Nazis started off putting people in Dachau. I've scoured the history books and I can't find any example of them having "Step 1: Don't book shite, decades out of date comedians" in their playbook.
So who makes the rules on what we are/not allowed to see and listen to. He does nothing for me but that's not the point.
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Your entitled to not like his humour Billy, but censorship of the right to offend, free speech and dictating what other people willing to purchase tickets and enjoy the type of entertainment they enjoy is the start of a very steep fall in the freedoms of the population of this country.
No doubt your happy with that and the odd visit to the Ballet being against free speech and democracy.
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Watched a news report this morning about the Labour led Sheffield City council stopping a Roy Chubby Brown show at the City Hall early next week despite a large protest to their actions.
Not a mention on Look North at lunchtime not surprisingly on the now WOKE BBC, but censorship of actions taken by an elected body against the wishes of a large number in their area who signed a petition wanting the show to go on.
The left need to look back in history and realise that the communists and the Nazi party started out that way.
Can’t believe there’s still an audience for Chubby Brown but if people want to watch him keeps them out of circulation for a couple of hours.
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I can’t believe that the Communists first action was killing the Tsar and his family and the first action of the Nazis was putting people in a concentration camp.
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Billy has a tendency to re-write History to suit his rhetoric Hound.
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I can’t believe that the Communists first action was killing the Tsar and his family and the first action of the Nazis was putting people in a concentration camp.
What a rotten post.
Yes the good old revolutionaries and the Nazis.
They waited a bit before committing atrocities.
By the way the Chubby Brown story is weeks old and has been on Look North at least twice.
Numbskulls were dressed up as Chubby, outside the City Hall protesting against the council weeks ago.
There's no place for nasty racist, homophobic, mysoginistic berks like him nowadays.
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Actually Selby, the Communists started off assassinating the Tsar and Tsarina and the Nazis started off putting people in Dachau. I've scoured the history books and I can't find any example of them having "Step 1: Don't book shite, decades out of date comedians" in their playbook.
The paying public are the judges of who is out of date and who isn't , not yourself or Sheffield City Council .
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Your entitled to not like his humour Billy, but censorship of the right to offend, free speech and dictating what other people willing to purchase tickets and enjoy the type of entertainment they enjoy is the start of a very steep fall in the freedoms of the population of this country.
No doubt your happy with that and the odd visit to the Ballet being against free speech and democracy.
Do your research before you spout off.
No-one has "banned" him. They've decided he's not appropriate for a publicly funded venue so they've chosen not to go ahead with the booking. If a private company want to book him and put him on their stage, they are totally at liberty to do so. Meanwhile, if the people of Sheffield don't like the Council decision, they can vote the councillors out.
But yeah...this is how Nazi Germany started...
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Actually Selby, the Communists started off assassinating the Tsar and Tsarina and the Nazis started off putting people in Dachau. I've scoured the history books and I can't find any example of them having "Step 1: Don't book shite, decades out of date comedians" in their playbook.
The paying public are the judges of who is out of date and who isn't , not yourself or Sheffield City Council .
Sheffield Council can decided who they do and do not choose to book in their own facilities though. That is all that has happened here.
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I can’t believe that the Communists first action was killing the Tsar and his family and the first action of the Nazis was putting people in a concentration camp.
What a rotten post.
Yes the good old revolutionaries and the Nazis.
They waited a bit before committing atrocities.
By the way the Chubby Brown story is weeks old and has been on Look North at least twice.
Numbskulls were dressed up as Chubby, outside the City Hall protesting against the council weeks ago.
There's no place for nasty racist, homophobic, mysoginistic berks like him nowadays.
Why is it a rotten post TT.
I was just commenting on a post by BST who had suggested what the first actions of the Commis and the Nazis was.
It wasn’t my suggestion.
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It was your rabid ultra right wing mate and WUM par excellence Selby who brought up the Nazis hound.
Read your post again.
Nit picking BST's post by effectively making excuses for the worst perpetrators of atrocities of the last century.
Well done.
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It was your rabid ultra right wing mate and WUM par excellence Selby who brought up the Nazis hound.
Read your post again.
Nit picking BST's post by effectively making excuses for the worst perpetrators of atrocities of the last century.
Well done.
Yep, I read it again TT.
I’m still only quoting bst and saying I didn’t realise that the people he mentioned had done the things he said as a first action.
I don’t expect you to go against bst by the way but you must realise what he had suggested isnt right.
Selby did mention the Nazis first, I agree, but bst posted after that.
For the record, I abhor what they did in WW2 and before and certainly am not making excuses for that.
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It is a toughie this one.
It all depends on what his 'material' consists of these days i guess.
Sexist, mysogynistic and racist jokes are not only unacceptable and inappropriate but illegal and if i were shouting this stuff on the streets i'd be arrested.
If his material these days consists of none of that then allow him to perform. Or make an arse of himself to be more apt.
I remember going to see Frankie Boyle at Buxton Opera House about 10 or so years ago and he started making sick jokes about Madeleine McCann. I walked out immediately. How can someone attempt to get laughs out of the disappearance of small child? What is more, the people sat around me found it amusing.
If i could have chucked in a potent incendiary device on leaving then i may have considered it.
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It is a toughie this one.
It all depends on what his 'material' consists of these days i guess.
Sexist, mysogynistic and racist jokes are not only unacceptable and inappropriate but illegal and if i were shouting this stuff on the streets i'd be arrested.
If his material these days consists of none of that then allow him to perform. Or make an arse of himself to be more apt.
I remember going to see Frankie Boyle at Buxton Opera House about 10 or so years ago and he started making sick jokes about Madeleine McCann. I walked out immediately. How can someone attempt to get laughs out of the disappearance of small child? What is more, the people sat around me found it amusing.
If i could have chucked in a potent incendiary device on leaving then i may have considered it.
Everyone knows what they going to get when they buy tickets to see Chubby Brown .
He's done it for fourty years up and down the country .
There's usual signage on arrival saying if you are easily offended stay away and it's printed on the advertising boards and tickets .
I've seen Chubby a number of times when I was younger and he takes the pyss out of himself as much as anybody else in my opinion .
I wouldn't go to see him today but I wouldn't hold it against anybody who did either .
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It was your rabid ultra right wing mate and WUM par excellence Selby who brought up the Nazis hound.
Read your post again.
Nit picking BST's post by effectively making excuses for the worst perpetrators of atrocities of the last century.
Well done.
Yep, I read it again TT.
I’m still only quoting bst and saying I didn’t realise that the people he mentioned had done the things he said as a first action.
I don’t expect you to go against bst by the way but you must realise what he had suggested isnt right.
Selby did mention the Nazis first, I agree, but bst posted after that.
For the record, I abhor what they did in WW2 and before and certainly am not making excuses for that.
A history lesson then Hound.
The Nazis came to power in early 1933.
Guess when Dachau was opened....
March 1933.
The Bolsheviks shot the Romanovs a few months after coming to power, so if you're nit picking then you're about right on that one.
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It was your rabid ultra right wing mate and WUM par excellence Selby who brought up the Nazis hound.
Read your post again.
Nit picking BST's post by effectively making excuses for the worst perpetrators of atrocities of the last century.
Well done.
Yep, I read it again TT.
I’m still only quoting bst and saying I didn’t realise that the people he mentioned had done the things he said as a first action.
I don’t expect you to go against bst by the way but you must realise what he had suggested isnt right.
Selby did mention the Nazis first, I agree, but bst posted after that.
For the record, I abhor what they did in WW2 and before and certainly am not making excuses for that.
A history lesson then Hound.
The Nazis came to power in early 1933.
Guess when Dachau was opened....
March 1933.
The Bolsheviks shot the Romanovs a few months after coming to power, so if you're nit picking then you're about right on that one.
Let’s call it a draw then.
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This coming Weekend, The selby, hound and tyke show, a walk back in history, get your tickets now.
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It was your rabid ultra right wing mate and WUM par excellence Selby who brought up the Nazis hound.
Read your post again.
Nit picking BST's post by effectively making excuses for the worst perpetrators of atrocities of the last century.
Well done.
Yep, I read it again TT.
I’m still only quoting bst and saying I didn’t realise that the people he mentioned had done the things he said as a first action.
I don’t expect you to go against bst by the way but you must realise what he had suggested isnt right.
Selby did mention the Nazis first, I agree, but bst posted after that.
For the record, I abhor what they did in WW2 and before and certainly am not making excuses for that.
A history lesson then Hound.
The Nazis came to power in early 1933.
Guess when Dachau was opened....
March 1933.
The Bolsheviks shot the Romanovs a few months after coming to power, so if you're nit picking then you're about right on that one.
Let’s call it a draw then.
Or you were wrong on a very important point in history hound
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I was just thinking about you and your petty vendetta is all hound
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Actually Sydney, I wasn’t wrong about anything to do with the Nazis or Dachau.
I had said I didn’t know whether what bst had said was right.
It seems he was on one point but not on the other.
Your apology would be nice, but probably not forthcoming.
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What about your petty vendetta, I wasn't wrong about that either?
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You should be on at the Sheffield City Hall, hound
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You lot could argue about the colour of shite.
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I was
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You should be on at the Sheffield City Hall, hound
SR, you crack on son.
I’m not getting into one of your induced arguments.
I hope you enjoyed your fry up this morning.
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'Son' ark at im, wandering the forum with a can of beer again hound
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Actually Sydney, I wasn’t wrong about anything to do with the Nazis or Dachau.
I had said I didn’t know whether what bst had said was right.
It seems he was on one point but not on the other.
Your apology would be nice, but probably not forthcoming.
You WERE wrong Hound for God's sake.
Read what you wrote.
"I don't expect you to go against BST but you must realise what he said was wrong,"
Which it wasn't.
You were nit picking just to agree with Selby
Are you Boris Johnson in disguise?
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TT, you lot must go to argument training classes.
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It was your rabid ultra right wing mate and WUM par excellence Selby who brought up the Nazis hound.
Read your post again.
Nit picking BST's post by effectively making excuses for the worst perpetrators of atrocities of the last century.
Well done.
Yep, I read it again TT.
I’m still only quoting bst and saying I didn’t realise that the people he mentioned had done the things he said as a first action.
I don’t expect you to go against bst by the way but you must realise what he had suggested isnt right.
Selby did mention the Nazis first, I agree, but bst posted after that.
For the record, I abhor what they did in WW2 and before and certainly am not making excuses for that.
A history lesson then Hound.
The Nazis came to power in early 1933.
Guess when Dachau was opened....
March 1933.
The Bolsheviks shot the Romanovs a few months after coming to power, so if you're nit picking then you're about right on that one.
Those dates being precisely why I chose those two examples, rather than Auschwitz or Stalin's Terror.
But yeah, Sheffield Council choosing to cancel Chubby Brown is clearly the first step towards genocide...
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It was your rabid ultra right wing mate and WUM par excellence Selby who brought up the Nazis hound.
Read your post again.
Nit picking BST's post by effectively making excuses for the worst perpetrators of atrocities of the last century.
Well done.
Yep, I read it again TT.
I’m still only quoting bst and saying I didn’t realise that the people he mentioned had done the things he said as a first action.
I don’t expect you to go against bst by the way but you must realise what he had suggested isnt right.
Selby did mention the Nazis first, I agree, but bst posted after that.
For the record, I abhor what they did in WW2 and before and certainly am not making excuses for that.
A history lesson then Hound.
The Nazis came to power in early 1933.
Guess when Dachau was opened....
March 1933.
The Bolsheviks shot the Romanovs a few months after coming to power, so if you're nit picking then you're about right on that one.
Those dates being precisely why I chose those two examples, rather than Auschwitz or Stalin's Terror.
But yeah, Sheffield Council choosing to cancel Chubby Brown is clearly the first step towards genocide...
Maybe not, but it's the first step towards controlling what people see and hear. I have no interest in Chubby Brown at all, however if there's an audience for him who i am i to say no you're not allowed to see him here. I suppose they'll have no issues with allowing trendy, left wing anti brexit comedians perform there though.
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They ARE allowed to see him. He hasn't been banned. It's a non-story.
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They can't see him at the City Hall. I just don't see why they felt that they had to do this.
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Sheffield Council OWNS the City Hall. They can choose wno to book and wno not to book. They decided they didn't want Chubby Brown.
If Sheffield Arena, or the O2 or the Dog and Duck reckon there's a business opportunity here, they are at liberty to book him.
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If the Sheffield council wants to be out of touch with the public it is entirely up to them.
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It’s nothing new. I’m old enough to remember when various Councils (mainly Tory Councils) and Universities around the UK banned the Sex Pistols from performing.
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If the Sheffield council wants to be out of touch with the public it is entirely up to them.
Then the public can vote them out. That's how it works.
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It’s nothing new. I’m old enough to remember when various Councils (mainly Tory Councils) and Universities around the UK banned the Sex Pistols from performing.
To be honest HA that was cos they're more into S&M and bondage sort of thing
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Don't forget places banning Life of Brian from privately owned cinemas
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Don't forget the obscenity charges for the Oz magazine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oz_(magazine)
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Clearly those previous bans led directly to the assassination of the Royal family and the overthrow of democracy.
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In that case i find footballers taking the knee offensive so can we have any who do banned from all league grounds?
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If the Sheffield council wants to be out of touch with the public it is entirely up to them.
Then the public can vote them out. That's how it works.
Yes, it (still) is thank goodness. Hopefully, the days of people demanding revotes are well and truly dead and buried.
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If the Sheffield council wants to be out of touch with the public it is entirely up to them.
Then the public can vote them out. That's how it works.
Yes, it (still) is thank goodness. Hopefully, the days of people demanding revotes are well and truly dead and buried.
They didn't want a vote in the first place.
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If it goes against "their values" They shouldn't have accepted the initial booking, problem solved. Or does it just go against "their values" cos somebody complained.
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If the Sheffield council wants to be out of touch with the public it is entirely up to them.
Then the public can vote them out. That's how it works.
Yes, it (still) is thank goodness. Hopefully, the days of people demanding revotes are well and truly dead and buried.
No. If people decide they voted for the wrong thing, they can change their minds at another vote.
That's how it works.
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In that case i find footballers taking the knee offensive so can we have any who do banned from all league grounds?
Or why not just ban the fan?
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If the Sheffield council wants to be out of touch with the public it is entirely up to them.
Then the public can vote them out. That's how it works.
Yes, it (still) is thank goodness. Hopefully, the days of people demanding revotes are well and truly dead and buried.
No. If people decide they voted for the wrong thing, they can change their minds at another vote.
That's how it works.
Yes, of course, people can change their minds and vote differently next time around, that's how it works. People who want a vote cancelled because the result didn't go their way is quite a different scenario, though, and that's NOT how it works!
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If the Sheffield council wants to be out of touch with the public it is entirely up to them.
Then the public can vote them out. That's how it works.
Yes, it (still) is thank goodness. Hopefully, the days of people demanding revotes are well and truly dead and buried.
No. If people decide they voted for the wrong thing, they can change their minds at another vote.
That's how it works.
Yes, of course, people can change their minds and vote differently next time around, that's how it works. People who want a vote cancelled because the result didn't go their way is quite a different scenario, though, and that's NOT how it works!
A cynic might think you guided those responses BB.
Grown up stuff and all that.
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BB
That response of you would have been masterful. Except for one problem. No-one ever wanted the Brexit vote cancelled.
You're doing your thing again. Having an argument with that imaginary person in your head.
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B*llocks.
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It was your rabid ultra right wing mate and WUM par excellence Selby who brought up the Nazis hound.
Read your post again.
Nit picking BST's post by effectively making excuses for the worst perpetrators of atrocities of the last century.
Well done.
Yep, I read it again TT.
I’m still only quoting bst and saying I didn’t realise that the people he mentioned had done the things he said as a first action.
I don’t expect you to go against bst by the way but you must realise what he had suggested isnt right.
Selby did mention the Nazis first, I agree, but bst posted after that.
For the record, I abhor what they did in WW2 and before and certainly am not making excuses for that.
A history lesson then Hound.
The Nazis came to power in early 1933.
Guess when Dachau was opened....
March 1933.
The Bolsheviks shot the Romanovs a few months after coming to power, so if you're nit picking then you're about right on that one.
Those dates being precisely why I chose those two examples, rather than Auschwitz or Stalin's Terror.
But yeah, Sheffield Council choosing to cancel Chubby Brown is clearly the first step towards genocide...
What an utter nob you are.
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When you think about it RCB is very much like johnson but better groomed and his jokes are not as hurtful
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If the Sheffield council wants to be out of touch with the public it is entirely up to them.
Then the public can vote them out. That's how it works.
Yes, it (still) is thank goodness. Hopefully, the days of people demanding revotes are well and truly dead and buried.
No. If people decide they voted for the wrong thing, they can change their minds at another vote.
That's how it works.
I didn't decide i voted for the wrong thing and am happy at long last we are getting what we wanted for years. Dress it up how you want the remainers wanted another go at turning over the decision i voted for because they didn't like the outcome.
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If the Sheffield council wants to be out of touch with the public it is entirely up to them.
Then the public can vote them out. That's how it works.
Yes, it (still) is thank goodness. Hopefully, the days of people demanding revotes are well and truly dead and buried.
No. If people decide they voted for the wrong thing, they can change their minds at another vote.
That's how it works.
Except that it doesn't work. Labour's mullering in the North and North-East proved that.
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If the Sheffield council wants to be out of touch with the public it is entirely up to them.
Then the public can vote them out. That's how it works.
Yes, it (still) is thank goodness. Hopefully, the days of people demanding revotes are well and truly dead and buried.
No. If people decide they voted for the wrong thing, they can change their minds at another vote.
That's how it works.
I didn't decide i voted for the wrong thing and am happy at long last we are getting what we wanted for years. Dress it up how you want the remainers wanted another go at turning over the decision i voted for because they didn't like the outcome.
What about all of the leave voters that expected sensible adult negotiations leading to something like the promised Norway deal?
I doubt the leave majority would have been achieved if the Brexit we have ended up with was the one proposed at the time.
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If the Sheffield council wants to be out of touch with the public it is entirely up to them.
Then the public can vote them out. That's how it works.
Yes, it (still) is thank goodness. Hopefully, the days of people demanding revotes are well and truly dead and buried.
No. If people decide they voted for the wrong thing, they can change their minds at another vote.
That's how it works.
I didn't decide i voted for the wrong thing and am happy at long last we are getting what we wanted for years. Dress it up how you want the remainers wanted another go at turning over the decision i voted for because they didn't like the outcome.
What about all of the leave voters that expected sensible adult negotiations leading to something like the promised Norway deal?
I doubt the leave majority would have been achieved if the Brexit we have ended up with was the one proposed at the time.
Idler, I am sure that in 2016 not many people would have known how things have ended up.
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I agree with that hound but the absolute waste of time posturing and in fighting rather than trying to negotiate the best deal for the country is unforgivable.
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I agree with that hound but the absolute waste of time posturing and in fighting rather than trying to negotiate the best deal for the country is unforgivable.
Agreed.
One big mess.
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I would like to know how much Farage's and Rees Mogg's bank balances have increased as the normal person's has decreased.
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You lot could argue about the colour of shite.
in their "morning constitututional" meetings
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Funny though that no one jumps in with a post like that when some of our more prolific posters are having their multi post arguments.