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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on December 27, 2021, 03:08:04 pm
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Give us something to give us hope, that team today would n’t compete in L2!
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Heard rumours that it will be Gary McSheffery getting the job, if so it will be a disappointing appointment imo
COYR
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Never mind how the fans feel. Whoever the new manager is, can you imagine how they feel watching that today?
They must have to like a challenge.
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Heard rumours that it will be Gary McSheffery getting the job, if so it will be a disappointing appointment imo
COYR
It depends if you take the view that he's got the max out of what he had available. I'd argue he has. From the 3 league games with the players he had he couldn't have got much more. A good win last time out aswell.
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We were never going to be able to compete with Sunderland today.
They were better in every department and quicker than us to every ball.
More experienced and more nous.
Anyone who thinks we had a chance of even getting a point today is guilty of wishful thinking.
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Franz Ferdinand and Sparks? Could be the combination we need. Sparks as the experienced older heads for the DoF role.
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Was World War 1 a mistake?
BobG
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Was World War 1 a mistake?
BobG
Been on the sherry have we?
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Heard rumours that it will be Gary McSheffery getting the job, if so it will be a disappointing appointment imo
COYR
Yep soundbites around the pressroom after the game suggests its GM tomorrow.
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Andy Butler on Twitter 2+2 = ???
COYR
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Heard rumours that it will be Gary McSheffery getting the job, if so it will be a disappointing appointment imo
COYR
It depends if you take the view that he's got the max out of what he had available. I'd argue he has. From the 3 league games with the players he had he couldn't have got much more. A good win last time out aswell.
I'm going disagree, he would have been better playing a few more experienced players today rather than 3 youth team players who for me are way off this standard at the minute, you could add a fourth with Horton if we had anyone else
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Back as a player ?
It’s what is needed at the back. Big time.
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Was World War 1 a mistake?
BobG
Been on the sherry have we?
No. I'm decrying your lack of sense, your lack of vision, of wisdom and of vision beyond the immediate.
BobG
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I think I must be the only one that wasn't disappointed with the result.
I predicted a 4-0 win for Sunderland. Just look at the goals they got, a penalty, and own goal and open play goal.
we had a team mainly made up of boys with little experience.
The boys put all they had in to the game and I must admit I was very happy with the performance.
Its a fight till the last game but thats what football is all about.
Its Mc Sheffrey for me.
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Was World War 1 a mistake?
BobG
Been on the sherry have we?
No. I'm decrying your lack of sense, your lack of vision, of wisdom and of vision beyond the immediate.
BobG
I would be interested to know why you would be against new ownership?
Lack of vision? What kind of vision is that, because where I am sat there appears to be a total lack of any vision. or do you mean the often quoted 5 year plan which has been in existence for the last 10 years?
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Back as a player ?
It’s what is needed at the back. Big time.
The very same Butler that watched on while Charlie Wyke nodded 4 into our Net unopposed ,last season at Stadium of Light.
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I think I must be the only one that wasn't disappointed with the result.
I predicted a 4-0 win for Sunderland. Just look at the goals they got, a penalty, and own goal and open play goal.
we had a team mainly made up of boys with little experience.
The boys put all they had in to the game and I must admit I was very happy with the performance.
Its a fight till the last game but thats what football is all about.
Its Mc Sheffrey for me.
I went to the game expecting nothing other than a defeat today.
I also thought it might be as many as 4-0 and when it went to three straight after the break I thought they might get six.
Three nil was a good result in the end.
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Franz Ferdinand and Sparks? Could be the combination we need. Sparks as the experienced older heads for the DoF role.
Ron to field the difficult questions at Press conferences.
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Back as a player ?
It’s what is needed at the back. Big time.
The very same Butler that watched on while Charlie Wyke nodded 4 into our Net unopposed ,last season at Stadium of Light.
Of course Anderson wasn’t culpable for any of them.
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It’s worrying that MCsheffry just said we will try to make 1 or 2 additions In Jan... seriously
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Back as a player ?
It’s what is needed at the back. Big time.
The very same Butler that watched on while Charlie Wyke nodded 4 into our Net unopposed ,last season at Stadium of Light.
Of course Anderson wasn’t culpable for any of them.
Do you mean Wright? Anderson didn't play that game.
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Heard rumours that it will be Gary McSheffery getting the job, if so it will be a disappointing appointment imo
COYR
It depends if you take the view that he's got the max out of what he had available. I'd argue he has. From the 3 league games with the players he had he couldn't have got much more. A good win last time out aswell.
I'm going disagree, he would have been better playing a few more experienced players today rather than 3 youth team players who for me are way off this standard at the minute, you could add a fourth with Horton if we had anyone else
We hadn’t a player fit to replace Blyth or Horton.
Bogle and Gardner both coming back from calf injuries so couldn’t play 90 minutes Barlow returning from Covid so he wasn’t ready for 90 minutes. There is no body else.
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Heard rumours that it will be Gary McSheffery getting the job, if so it will be a disappointing appointment imo
COYR
It depends if you take the view that he's got the max out of what he had available. I'd argue he has. From the 3 league games with the players he had he couldn't have got much more. A good win last time out aswell.
I'm going disagree, he would have been better playing a few more experienced players today rather than 3 youth team players who for me are way off this standard at the minute, you could add a fourth with Horton if we had anyone else
We hadn’t a player fit to replace Blyth or Horton.
Bogle and Gardner both coming back from calf injuries so couldn’t play 90 minutes Barlow returning from Covid so he wasn’t ready for 90 minutes. There is no body else.
And we've hopefully learned not to rush players back from whats happened to Taylor and Close.
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Heard rumours that it will be Gary McSheffery getting the job, if so it will be a disappointing appointment imo
COYR
Is expect If he’d engineered a win today it would be a different story .
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I think I must be the only one that wasn't disappointed with the result.
I predicted a 4-0 win for Sunderland. Just look at the goals they got, a penalty, and own goal and open play goal.
we had a team mainly made up of boys with little experience.
The boys put all they had in to the game and I must admit I was very happy with the performance.
Its a fight till the last game but thats what football is all about.
Its Mc Sheffrey for me.
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Agree with this ,was always going to be a tough ask the early goal wasn't ideal and in all honesty there was no contact it was a dive, if he'd gone half a yard further onto his outstretched leg I'd have no complaints. The 2nd goal killed us just before half time , we switched off and it's a lesson learned for the young lad was it Ravenhill ?, good finish by the Sunderland player.
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I think I must be the only one that wasn't disappointed with the result.
I predicted a 4-0 win for Sunderland. Just look at the goals they got, a penalty, and own goal and open play goal.
we had a team mainly made up of boys with little experience.
The boys put all they had in to the game and I must admit I was very happy with the performance.
Its a fight till the last game but thats what football is all about.
Its Mc Sheffrey for me.
I went to the game expecting nothing other than a defeat today.
I also thought it might be as many as 4-0 and when it went to three straight after the break I thought they might get six.
Three nil was a good result in the end.
When I saw the team I feared the worst and at half time I thought Sunderland would probably get 5, so to keep it down to 3 was a good result.
I felt sorry for the young kids being thrown in today and it wouldn't have happened had we not been on sky. It's a shame that we are so desperate for money that we have to give 3 points away when we are desperate for points.
It is as though we have owners with no money and are just existing. :chair: :chair:
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If they appoint McSheffrey that will tell me everything I need to know. Someone who will accept being given hardly any funds for players.
One or two players greatly underestimated what we need.
He’s done a decent job so far, but he is not the man for the job at this time. They don’t want to go out of their comfort zone if they appoint him.
The club and is the fans pay in the end.
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Just one point about the game, I am fairly sure it was Horton who could have given a hat-trick of penalties away today.
Whoever gets the managers job he's got to knock it out of him................
STOP PULLING SHIRTS, PARTICULARLY IN THE BOX.
To cap it all, half my family have now gone down with the virus and we have gone in to isolation.
This virus is spreading very fast and will affect football very soon.
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It’s worrying that MCsheffry just said we will try to make 1 or 2 additions In Jan... seriously
It’s called not showing your hand.
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What is needed with all these young players who struggled against the class of the opposition is for the experienced ones to play in a mature way, hold the ball up and think about the next pass. This would show leadership, instil a bit of confidence and give time for their inexperienced team mates to take up better positions to receive the ball. There was too much thoughtless booting it upfield. But we had only Rowe in the first half and Bogle and (to give him credit for once) Gardner in the second half who provided something of an example. Sadly, Dodoo, Hiwula, and Knoyle exhibit none of the sensible qualities that ought to be part of their games.
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Back as a player ?
It’s what is needed at the back. Big time.
The very same Butler that watched on while Charlie Wyke nodded 4 into our Net unopposed ,last season at Stadium of Light.
Of course Anderson wasn’t culpable for any of them.
Do you mean Wright? Anderson didn't play that game.
Yes, of course.
I was checking whether you were taking any notice. :chair:
(Technically I was right though that Anderson wasn’t culpable).
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Back as a player ?
It’s what is needed at the back. Big time.
The very same Butler that watched on while Charlie Wyke nodded 4 into our Net unopposed ,last season at Stadium of Light.
Of course Anderson wasn’t culpable for any of them.
Anderson , he wasn't even on the Bench.
If your going to contribute at least do some home work.
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Was World War 1 a mistake?
BobG
Been on the sherry have we?
No. I was referring to a well known joke that, clearly, you don't understand.
Cheers
BobG
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Back as a player ?
It’s what is needed at the back. Big time.
The very same Butler that watched on while Charlie Wyke nodded 4 into our Net unopposed ,last season at Stadium of Light.
Of course Anderson wasn’t culpable for any of them.
Anderson , he wasn't even on the Bench.
If your going to contribute at least do some home work.
Sorry sir.
I have already excused myself above….. if that is ok with you of course.
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If they appoint McSheffrey that will tell me everything I need to know. Someone who will accept being given hardly any funds for players.
One or two players greatly underestimated what we need.
He’s done a decent job so far, but he is not the man for the job at this time. They don’t want to go out of their comfort zone if they appoint him.
The club and is the fans pay in the end.
agree with that
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If they appoint McSheffrey that will tell me everything I need to know. Someone who will accept being given hardly any funds for players.
One or two players greatly underestimated what we need.
He’s done a decent job so far, but he is not the man for the job at this time. They don’t want to go out of their comfort zone if they appoint him.
The club and is the fans pay in the end.
agree with that
Of course you do.
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Lol!! I knew you would get it Brian!!
BobG
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I wish people would wake up and smell the coffee. With our player situation Klopp would struggle .
Our lead striker has barely played a game. With Bogle and Doodoo we haven't got that mobile option. We haven't had a consistent spine. We have chopped and changed keeper. Our midfield has been decimated. This is the worst I have seen it, for absentees, in 40 years.
Get behind whoever is answer. If we go down, get behind the club
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I wish people would wake up and smell the coffee. With our player situation Klopp would struggle .
Our lead striker has barely played a game. With Bogle and Doodoo we haven't got that mobile option. We haven't had a consistent spine. We have chopped and changed keeper. Our midfield has been decimated. This is the worst I have seen it, for absentees, in 40 years.
Get behind whoever is answer. If we go down, get behind the club
I totally agree.
I fully support the new manager ,the club whatever league we end up in.
"Once a Rover always a Rover"
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It is McSheffrey, don’t know what the delay is with the announcement, unless they want to announce it with a couple of new signings for the PR???
Don’t know if he’s what we need right now but from what I hear he’s a top bloke and comes across as intelligent when you hear him speak, obviously he’s got something about him, was the youngest player to play in prem when he made his debut for Cov.
I know there’s people on here who’ll say he’s the cheap option but if there’s nobody who’s done enough in the interview process to force the boards hand then we might as well go with what we’ve got.
Let’s get behind him! RTID
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If it’s gm, why was there an announcement that two of the candidates had previous prem experience.
It would just feel like the whole thing has been a charade.
Unless those prem candidates have seen the light and smelt the coffee.
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It is McSheffrey, don’t know what the delay is with the announcement, unless they want to announce it with a couple of new signings for the PR???
Don’t know if he’s what we need right now but from what I hear he’s a top bloke and comes across as intelligent when you hear him speak, obviously he’s got something about him, was the youngest player to play in prem when he made his debut for Cov.
I know there’s people on here who’ll say he’s the cheap option but if there’s nobody who’s done enough in the interview process to force the boards hand then we might as well go with what we’ve got.
Let’s get behind him! RTID
The fact he was the youngest player in the prem has nothing to do with how well he can manage. We need a manager with substance, someone who has been around a few clubs and knows their way around a club. We can't stick it all on red so to speak and hope for the best with someone so inexperienced.
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I would expect a lot of managers have got some Premier league experience, whether it’s been as a youth coach or whatever. Maybe a journalist just wanted some titbits for a story.
Maybe the Managers with this experience did not impress in the interview.
One of my major concerns is who’s going to take over the youth team. If GM and FS are such outstanding candidates, surely we’ll struggle to replace them in their present roles.
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It is McSheffrey, don’t know what the delay is with the announcement, unless they want to announce it with a couple of new signings for the PR???
Don’t know if he’s what we need right now but from what I hear he’s a top bloke and comes across as intelligent when you hear him speak, obviously he’s got something about him, was the youngest player to play in prem when he made his debut for Cov.
I know there’s people on here who’ll say he’s the cheap option but if there’s nobody who’s done enough in the interview process to force the boards hand then we might as well go with what we’ve got.
Let’s get behind him! RTID
The fact he was the youngest player in the prem has nothing to do with how well he can manage. We need a manager with substance, someone who has been around a few clubs and knows their way around a club. We can't stick it all on red so to speak and hope for the best with someone so inexperienced.
I didn’t say it made him a good manager, I just said he’s obviously got something about him, self belief, a winner!
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It will make a mockery of the whole process if it’s taken this long to announce the guy that was in charge anyway.
The board will only tell you what they want us as fans to hear, remember dickovs comment about the fact he was told to tell the fans to appease us that we have a top six budget.
This is more or less the same, came out and made out we have had some serious interest only to announce the person with the least experience. I really do wish the board would actually come out and say the truth rather getting the fans backs up.
Don’t get me wrong I’m sure there was candidates who when presented with the budget and the squad were thinking no way.
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If it is GM, then good luck to him but he’ll need to set us up much better than he did yesterday otherwise we’ll be changing manager again in 6 months. Gaps as wide as the channel all over the place, my nephews under 15s team could have played through them.
I’m hoping the players at his disposal in midfield yesterday weren’t able to follow his instructions because they aren’t tactically aware enough (which is a different issue) rather than GM being very tactically naive yesterday.
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He’s obviously done enough at the club in his time there to convince the board that he’s the man for the job. Whoever they appointed people on here wouldn’t be happy. People saying Warnock and Mick Mc, that’s never happening, there’s a massive gulf between people’s expectations and our reality as where we are at as a club.
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If they appoint McSheffrey that will tell me everything I need to know. Someone who will accept being given hardly any funds for players.
One or two players greatly underestimated what we need.
He’s done a decent job so far, but he is not the man for the job at this time. They don’t want to go out of their comfort zone if they appoint him.
The club and is the fans pay in the end.
“Not the man for the job at this time”?
There isn’t a manager in the country who could do a job under these present circumstances of injuries and covid and to get results with this squad of players .
Add together the utter indifference of the board who earlier said that we were not in a relegation fight , along with their financial constraints, his task would require up to date knowledge of the players and what it’s deficiencies , McSheffrey and Sinclair would meet that , at least until the end of the season .
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If it is GM, then good luck to him but he’ll need to set us up much better than he did yesterday otherwise we’ll be changing manager again in 6 months. Gaps as wide as the channel all over the place, my nephews under 15s team could have played through them.
I’m hoping the players at his disposal in midfield yesterday weren’t able to follow his instructions because they aren’t tactically aware enough (which is a different issue) rather than GM being very tactically naive yesterday.
Agree it was woeful and the score line flattered us but I don’t think you can judge the management on yesterday’s performance, there’s perhaps only 2 players in the team who are league 1 standard, 5 players who’ve graduated from the youth team who are not yet conference level in my opinion and Jordy and Dodoo who are I don’t know what. Against a team with probably the best squad in the division. Totally men against boys, I don’t think there’s any manager in the world who could’ve got us a point.
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If it is GM, then good luck to him but he’ll need to set us up much better than he did yesterday otherwise we’ll be changing manager again in 6 months. Gaps as wide as the channel all over the place.
I’m hoping the players at his disposal in midfield yesterday weren’t able to follow his instructions because they aren’t tactically aware enough (which is a different issue) rather than GM being very tactically naive yesterday.
Agree it was woeful and the score line flattered us but I don’t think you can judge the management on yesterday’s performance, there’s perhaps only 2 players in the team who are league 1 standard, 5 players who’ve graduated from the youth team who are not yet conference level in my opinion and Jordy and Dodoo who are I don’t know what. Against a team with probably the best squad in the division. Totally men against boys, I don’t think there’s any manager in the world who could’ve got us a point.
Sadly, all of the above is true.
I have deleted the bit I don’t agree with from one of the posts.
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I agree with that brief analysis Beast. But when we come to play Morecambe we will have the same players. Galbraith should be available but that’s it. So will we be able to beat Morecambe away from home with the team / squad whoever gets the managers job.
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The board are so clueless about the football situation they probably planned to beat Sunderland then announce Garry Mac after game (as if we had a chance of beating them ) . Now there like shit that didn’t go to plan and will probably start the process again
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If it is GM, then good luck to him but he’ll need to set us up much better than he did yesterday otherwise we’ll be changing manager again in 6 months. Gaps as wide as the channel all over the place, my nephews under 15s team could have played through them.
I’m hoping the players at his disposal in midfield yesterday weren’t able to follow his instructions because they aren’t tactically aware enough (which is a different issue) rather than GM being very tactically naive yesterday.
A few of them haven't been available due to Covid so even Guardiola would struggle to get ideas into the players with only a couple hours work.
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I agree with that brief analysis Beast. But when we come to play Morecambe we will have the same players. Galbraith should be available but that’s it. So will we be able to beat Morecambe away from home with the team / squad whoever gets the managers job.
No, I very much doubt it. Even with Anderson I doubt we’d get a result no chance without.
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I agree with that brief analysis Beast. But when we come to play Morecambe we will have the same players. Galbraith should be available but that%u2019s it. So will we be able to beat Morecambe away from home with the team / squad whoever gets the managers job.
If we do not beat Morecambe away then who will we beat away this season steve. They are shipping goals at the moment and we have to go there and get 3 points.
A defeat would be disastrous and leave us on the precipice.
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I agree with the above comments about shape. You can judge McSheffrey on shape at a very simple level - how did he ask the players we had (whatever level they are) to 'set-up' on the pitch? For the first 20 minutes we had Hiwula, Doodoo and Rowe way too high up the pitch, barely getting a touch of the ball (I think skysports showed a graphic saying Doodoo had 1 (one) after about 20 minutes). The wing backs were way too wide and Smith was alone chasing the ball like a mad-man in front of the back 1? 2? 3?. At least McSheffrey recognized this in his post-match interview, but to say there was massive gaps across the pitch was an understatement.
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If you were a neutral looking on yesterday I thunk your conclusions must be that Hiwula is awful and lazy, couldn’t trap a bag of sand, Doddoo is awful and lazy gets smaller when trying to head a ball, Ravenhill is out of his depth, Horton and Knoyle are average at best, Blythe is not ready
Bogle is twice the player than what Hiwula and Doddoo is and got a lot of stick for Wellens freezing him out
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What was it Brian Clough used to say ? for a successful team you need a top quality Goalie, Centre Half and Centre Forwards that is what we need to be bringing in to the side.
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If you were a neutral looking on yesterday I thunk your conclusions must be that Hiwula is awful and lazy, couldn’t trap a bag of sand, Doddoo is awful and lazy gets smaller when trying to head a ball, Ravenhill is out of his depth, Horton and Knoyle are average at best, Blythe is not ready
Bogle is twice the player than what Hiwula and Doddoo is and got a lot of stick for Wellens freezing him out
I knew they were bad, (strikers) but yesterday they were on another level. Throw Cuker with Doddoo and Hiwula and i think they have scored 3 goals between them in over 50 league appearances.
Wtf was Wellens doing signing these frauds?
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Bogle won more headers in 45mins yesterday than Dodoo and Cukur have together won all season.
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I really feel for McSheffrey. This whole episode feels like it’s been poorly managed from a PR perspective. I’m honestly happy if he’s to be given the job. However the way it’s been allowed to drag out, and the timing overall, is such that the announcement will now be completely underwhelming. I’m not sure if that’s harsh on the club, or what they could or should have done differently. But they were in control of when they sacked Wellens and how fast to move the process thereafter, and we now find ourselves in a bit of a toxic place that’s harsh on McSheffrey.
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I really feel for McSheffrey. This whole episode feels like it’s been poorly managed from a PR perspective. I’m honestly happy if he’s to be given the job. However the way it’s been allowed to drag out, and the timing overall, is such that the announcement will now be completely underwhelming. I’m not sure if that’s harsh on the club, or what they could or should have done differently. But they were in control of when they sacked Wellens and how fast to move the process thereafter, and we now find ourselves in a bit of a toxic place that’s harsh on McSheffrey.
It should have been announced last week when it was put out that they had got their man, this delay is doing nothing at all in moral throughout the club, including the fans
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I’ve never known a club feck around so much appointing someone.
And before anyone comes out to say they do due diligence to get their man etc, it’s not done us too many favours in recent years has it?
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I’ve never known a club feck around so much appointing someone.
And before anyone comes out to say they do due diligence to get their man etc, it’s not done us too many favours in recent years has it?
They’ve had their man since last week, its getting stupid now, this was supposed to be a speeded up process this time, it seems to be taking longer
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You can certainly see why we struggle to get business done in a timely manner during most transfer windows...
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If it’s gm, why was there an announcement that two of the candidates had previous prem experience.
It would just feel like the whole thing has been a charade.
Unless those prem candidates have seen the light and smelt the coffee.
There wasn't an announcement. The Free Press just said it, huge difference.
Don't know why people think that the Free Press saying things is the same as Rovers coming out with a statement. It's not.
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So is there any hint at what time we will get to know??
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I’m pretty sure they said they had paperwork to get signed off. As today is another bank holiday, I suspect it will be tomorrow before that can be completed.
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Our board like to think they are something special when it comes to recruiting a new manager with the process they opt for, when really it’s a drawn out affair that does no one any good, takes pi— really
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Maybe a decision has not been made.
Maybe they were waiting for an answer from GM or someone else and they both said NO THANK YOU.
Maybe we have to start all over again with say 3 new interviews from the original applicants.
Well all those scenarios are actually possible because the silence is deafening.
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The silence of silent majority speaks a thousand words for me
I support this club through thick and thin but not to be told the slightest thing even a snippet speaks loads to me
Our club is being starved of oxygen and dying a slow death
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There appears to be a total media blackout today, even Hoden has not given any teasers
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Our board like to think they are something special when it comes to recruiting a new manager with the process they opt for, when really it’s a drawn out affair that does no one any good, takes pi— really
I think they do it to wind up fans ( laughs) like you!
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Why don’t you lot go out for a chuffin walk,
breathe in the fresh air, and stay the hell off whatever device you keep plugging into, it’s only football and it’s causing you unnecessary stress….
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Any news?
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The silence of silent majority speaks a thousand words for me
I support this club through thick and thin but not to be told the slightest thing even a snippet speaks loads to me
Our club is being starved of oxygen and dying a slow death
I'm not sure as to why my silence means anything.
Explain?
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Any news?
Unlikely to be announced today as per Hoden on Twitter.
Me thinks they have changed their mind on mcsheffery if it was ever made up in the first place
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There appears to be a total media blackout today, even Hoden has not given any teasers
Christ, is no-one allowed time off at Christmas?
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Could be any number of reasons why nothing has been announced yet. We have no right to demand anything. It happens when it happens. There’s no point anyone getting bent out of shape. I’m enjoying playing with my Total Control Racing set and Stretch Armstrong in the meantime…
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Surely an announcement before the Morecombe game?
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Shit board shit decision making and have no interest in football just the town. Put the club up for sale now!
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Shit board shit decision making and have no interest in football just the town. Put the club up for sale now!
There, there. Go and let Mummy kiss it better for you. :silly:
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Shit board shit decision making and have no interest in football just the town. Put the club up for sale now!
You buying like?
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Surely an announcement before the Morecombe game?
If we didn’t want to disrupt preparations for the Sunderland game, surely the same applies to the Morcombe game
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Surely an announcement before the Morecombe game?
I'd like it before the transfer window opens, but I'm not going to slash my wrists if it isn't.
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Shit board shit decision making and have no interest in football just the town. Put the club up for sale now!
Oh dear there goes the sound of a 2022 DRFC supporter.
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Shit board shit decision making and have no interest in football just the town. Put the club up for sale now!
Oh dear there goes the sound of a 2022 DRFC supporter.
Black Bank kiddie, d'you reckon?
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The silence of silent majority speaks a thousand words for me
I support this club through thick and thin but not to be told the slightest thing even a snippet speaks loads to me
Our club is being starved of oxygen and dying a slow death
Hit the nail on the head here for me
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Shit board shit decision making and have no interest in football just the town. Put the club up for sale now!
Jesus some people. Be good if you could back that up with some facts. Maybe you could organise a protest to get them out.
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Yesterday I was in the club shop and heard 2 elderly gents saying Bramall is deliberately trying to take the club into the National League.
I almost completely lost it with them. If I had not been with my Daughter and Grandson I might of done.
Were they being serious, you bet they were. :facepalm:
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The silence of silent majority speaks a thousand words for me
I support this club through thick and thin but not to be told the slightest thing even a snippet speaks loads to me
Our club is being starved of oxygen and dying a slow death
Hit the nail on the head here for me
We have been told a snippet about why there hasn't been an announcement yet, so that's wrong for a start.
PS Who do you think is working on today's non-match Bank Holiday? Both for the club and the local media who the announcement would be made to.
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Yesterday I was in the club shop and heard 2 elderly gents saying Bramall is deliberately trying to take the club into the National League.
I almost completely lost it with them. If I had not been with my Daughter and Grandson I might of done.
Were they being serious, you bet they were. :facepalm:
I bet they never mentioned anything like a logical reason about what Bramall would personally get out of doing something as stupid as that.
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48 years d**khead this as been coming for years by letting players contracts run down to the last minute and letting the squad become thinner and thinner with each passing year. We have a board that shows no passion which in turn leads to a lack of motivation going forward . Ask yourself why crowds are going down it’s because of the shit leadership from the top we are being shown!
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According to Hodden they are still talking to the candidates today, suggesting the big decision has yet to be made and an announcement is not likely.
Given that, I'm not sure why today was expected as the big reveal then.
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Yesterday I was in the club shop and heard 2 elderly gents saying Bramall is deliberately trying to take the club into the National League.
I almost completely lost it with them. If I had not been with my Daughter and Grandson I might of done.
Were they being serious, you bet they were. :facepalm:
I bet they never mentioned anything like a logical reason about what Bramall would personally get out of doing something as stupid as that.
I will give you 3 guesses Glyn. Bet you can’t get it in one. :clapping:
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48 years d**khead this as been coming for years by letting players contracts run down to the last minute and letting the squad become thinner and thinner with each passing year. We have a board that shows no passion which in turn leads to a lack of motivation going forward . Ask yourself why crowds are going down it’s because of the shit leadership from the top we are being shown!
Aye, because football's overflowing with boards that show 'passion', ain't it? Football directors are never off the media motivating everybody. Anybody would think that's what their job description is. :silly:
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Yesterday I was in the club shop and heard 2 elderly gents saying Bramall is deliberately trying to take the club into the National League.
I almost completely lost it with them. If I had not been with my Daughter and Grandson I might of done.
Were they being serious, you bet they were. :facepalm:
I bet they never mentioned anything like a logical reason about what Bramall would personally get out of doing something as stupid as that.
I will give you 3 guesses Glyn. Bet you can’t get it in one. :clapping:
Damn, you've stumped me. :silly:
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According to Hodden they are still talking to the candidates today, suggesting the big decision has yet to be made and an announcement is not likely.
Given that, I'm not sure why today was expected as the big reveal then.
I never expected any decision until Thurs at the earliest.
As I said I think they are waiting on a decision from someone other than GM
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My birthday tomorrow 21 again (I don't know how I do it ) lol but might get a nice pressie in morning on new manager
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Yesterday I was in the club shop and heard 2 elderly gents saying Bramall is deliberately trying to take the club into the National League.
I almost completely lost it with them. If I had not been with my Daughter and Grandson I might of done.
Were they being serious, you bet they were. :facepalm:
I bet they never mentioned anything like a logical reason about what Bramall would personally get out of doing something as stupid as that.
I will give you 3 guesses Glyn. Bet you can%u2019t get it in one. :clapping:
Damn, you've stumped me. :silly:
I knew it would. Made my Xmas that has. :thumbsup:
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Could the new bloke be talking to players to before he CV comes in just a thought
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My birthday tomorrow 21 again (I don't know how I do it ) lol but might get a nice pressie in morning on new manager
It’s Wed tomorrow. Bad luck. Don’t lie your at least 25.
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Could the new bloke be talking to be ew can players before he comes in ??????
It's more likely to be getting his backroom staff sorted, which could also mean letting other people know they're out of a job too.
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Find it difficult to understand why people slag the board. We are financially in a sound position. In the past we have had many ups and downs and still have a club to support. Don’t know how old the moaners are or what they expect but I am sure there are many of us who will still watch Doncaster rovers our club no matter what division we are in :scarf:
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48 years d**khead this as been coming for years by letting players contracts run down to the last minute and letting the squad become thinner and thinner with each passing year. We have a board that shows no passion which in turn leads to a lack of motivation going forward . Ask yourself why crowds are going down it’s because of the shit leadership from the top we are being shown!
I love being a d**khead.
Like I say do something about it. Your clearly quite angry about it.
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According to Hodden they are still talking to the candidates today, suggesting the big decision has yet to be made and an announcement is not likely.
Given that, I'm not sure why today was expected as the big reveal then.
According to Hoden last week, he inferred the decision had been made 'according to sources'.
Just shows you, we should always take things with a pinch until we hear from the horses!
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Skill
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There is another turgid series of the apprentice about to start. I reckon club Doncaster’s selection process could give this programme a run for its money.
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Yes the club had made their decision but they had to sort out the financial package with the candidates.
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Skill
Bagsy me be Lys Mousset
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According to Hodden they are still talking to the candidates today, suggesting the big decision has yet to be made and an announcement is not likely.
Given that, I'm not sure why today was expected as the big reveal then.
According to Hoden last week, he inferred the decision had been made 'according to sources'.
Just shows you, we should always take things with a pinch until we hear from the horses!
Taking it from the horses mouth, they wanted the process done and dusted in 2 weeks.
So almost 4 weeks later, you can’t blame people for hanging onto the very little bits of information we are getting.
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Find it difficult to understand why people slag the board. We are financially in a sound position. In the past we have had many ups and downs and still have a club to support. Don’t know how old the moaners are or what they expect but I am sure there are many of us who will still watch Doncaster rovers our club no matter what division we are in :scarf:
We are free falling into league 2 but this makes everything ok. The team was seriously short of quality at the beginning of the season and with a few injuries we now have a team that would fail to compete in conference north.
We will be nearer the bottom of league 2 next season and the budget will reflect that!
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Find it difficult to understand why people slag the board. We are financially in a sound position. In the past we have had many ups and downs and still have a club to support. Don’t know how old the moaners are or what they expect but I am sure there are many of us who will still watch Doncaster rovers our club no matter what division we are in :scarf:
We are free falling into league 2 but this makes everything ok. The team was seriously short of quality at the beginning of the season and with a few injuries we now have a team that would fail to compete in conference north.
We will be nearer the bottom of league 2 next season and the budget will reflect that!
'a few' injuries.
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According to Hodden they are still talking to the candidates today, suggesting the big decision has yet to be made and an announcement is not likely.
Given that, I'm not sure why today was expected as the big reveal then.
According to Hoden last week, he inferred the decision had been made 'according to sources'.
Just shows you, we should always take things with a pinch until we hear from the horses!
Fact, Liam Hoden does not know who the new manager is
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Liam Hoden has tweeted that the board made a decision 5 days ago, however met again today to discuss whether all board members remained happy with the decision.
This really has been poorly managed.
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But what's the rush lads? There's a full 3 days until the transfer window opens. We're only 6 points off safety. And we've scored 13 whole goals already this season.
So why would anyone expect any movement on a non match day bank holiday?!
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Liam Hoden has tweeted that the board made a decision 5 days ago, however met again today to discuss whether all board members remained happy with the decision.
This really has been poorly managed.
Maybe, just maybe, he was wrong the first time? not everything he says is gospel.
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We won’t be relegated this year. I can guarantee you that.
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Liam Hoden has tweeted that the board made a decision 5 days ago, however met again today to discuss whether all board members remained happy with the decision.
This really has been poorly managed.
A reminder that we have three board members.
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We won’t be relegated this year. I can guarantee you that.
I love your optimism, PDX, but what is it based on? We don't know who the new manager is yet, or what players he's bringing in.
I don't envy him.
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Liam Hoden has tweeted that the board made a decision 5 days ago, however met again today to discuss whether all board members remained happy with the decision.
This really has been poorly managed.
Maybe, just maybe, he was wrong the first time? not everything he says is gospel.
If it makes you feel better..
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We won’t be relegated this year. I can guarantee you that.
I love your optimism, PDX, but what is it based on? We don't know who the new manager is yet, or what players he's bringing in.
I don't envy him.
Probably based on the fact that there are only 3 days left of this year and relegation is decided in 2022.
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:evil:
We won’t be relegated this year. I can guarantee you that.
100% correct
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Liam Hoden has tweeted that the board made a decision 5 days ago, however met again today to discuss whether all board members remained happy with the decision.
This really has been poorly managed.
Poorly managed not I’d say. If they have changed their minds shows they were unsure possibly and if not all good.
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He tweeted today that the board was meeting today and speaking to the candidates after the meeting which implies a decision was not made 5 days ago !!
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We won’t be relegated this year. I can guarantee you that.
I love your optimism, PDX, but what is it based on? We don't know who the new manager is yet, or what players he's bringing in.
I don't envy him.
Probably based on the fact that there are only 3 days left of this year and relegation is decided in 2022.
Exactly Nick.
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We won’t be relegated this year. I can guarantee you that.
I love your optimism, PDX, but what is it based on? We don't know who the new manager is yet, or what players he's bringing in.
I don't envy him.
Probably based on the fact that there are only 3 days left of this year and relegation is decided in 2022.
Wow. I missed that. I'm standing at the back of the room now, with a pointed hat on.
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This protracted manager appointment scheme is starting to get on people's t*ts now. TBH it's the same with the announcements of new signings.... always drawn out - with the message that they are trying to get it over the line..... etc etc. IMO, we could perhaps do with a different tune..... just my opinion.
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We won’t be relegated this year. I can guarantee you that.
I love your optimism, PDX, but what is it based on? We don't know who the new manager is yet, or what players he's bringing in.
I don't envy him.
Probably based on the fact that there are only 3 days left of this year and relegation is decided in 2022.
Wow. I missed that. I'm standing at the back of the room now, with a pointed hat on.
Pay attention SS
To be perfectly honest I missed that as well. ;)
I am just doing my 100 lines right now. :crying:
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We won’t be relegated this year. I can guarantee you that.
And what odds are you offering
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This protracted manager appointment scheme is starting to get on people's t*ts now. TBH it's the same with the announcements of new signings.... always drawn out - with the message that they are trying to get it over the line..... etc etc. IMO, we could perhaps do with a different tune..... just my opinion.
Yep, we shouldn't bother teasing with any announcements at all until the deed is done. That'd stop the whinging. :silly:
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We won’t be relegated this year. I can guarantee you that.
And what odds are you offering
Kirk, you've been had, same as me and Camps.
We're all going to have to write 100 lines.
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This protracted manager appointment scheme is starting to get on people's t*ts now. TBH it's the same with the announcements of new signings.... always drawn out - with the message that they are trying to get it over the line..... etc etc. IMO, we could perhaps do with a different tune..... just my opinion.
Yep, we shouldn't bother teasing with any announcements at all until the deed is done. That'd stop the whinging. :silly:
I'd be happy with that.....
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Liam Hoden has tweeted that the board made a decision 5 days ago, however met again today to discuss whether all board members remained happy with the decision.
This really has been poorly managed.
That surely is the clearest pointer yet that they were giving it to GM, and not entirely wholehearted in the decision, otherwise as has been said previously why delay if GM was the choice?
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Liam Hoden has tweeted that the board made a decision 5 days ago, however met again today to discuss whether all board members remained happy with the decision.
This really has been poorly managed.
That surely is the clearest pointer yet that they were giving it to GM, and not entirely wholehearted in the decision, otherwise as has been said previously why delay if GM was the choice?
I can’t see any mention that today’s meeting was to check the board members were still happy with decision. Have you got a link to that?
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Is anyone truly shocked by how they go about appointing a new manager, and we are going to get someone who is already at the club ??
If you have faith in him, appoint him straight away
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It’s unbelievable that a third tier footy club faffs around like they do with appointments, like they are some global, blue chip, white collar, multi billion pound company.
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Liam Hoden has tweeted that the board made a decision 5 days ago, however met again today to discuss whether all board members remained happy with the decision.
This really has been poorly managed.
That surely is the clearest pointer yet that they were giving it to GM, and not entirely wholehearted in the decision, otherwise as has been said previously why delay if GM was the choice?
It's the clearest pointer yet that Hoden's talking b*llocks.
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It’s unbelievable that a third tier footy club faffs around like they do with appointments, like they are some global, blue chip, white collar, multi billion pound company.
Let's drag in the nearest passer-by and give him the job. That'd be quick and you never know, we might just strike lucky.
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If the new manager knows, why else does it matter?
Don't give a flying f*ck when they choose to announce it.
Only thing then is for everyone to move on to talking b*llocks about transfers and budgets.
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If the new manager knows, why else does it matter?
Don't give a flying f*ck when they choose to announce it.
Only thing then is for everyone to move on to talking b*llocks about transfers and budgets.
But that'd mean missing out the 'it's the cheap option' b*llocks and I can't see that happening.
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It’s unbelievable that a third tier footy club faffs around like they do with appointments, like they are some global, blue chip, white collar, multi billion pound company.
Let's drag in the nearest passer-by and give him the job. That'd be quick and you never know, we might just strike lucky.
Or we could just continue with the cronyism by giving another person connected to the club the job.
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This is what happens when people let rumour become fact in their head. There's been no confirmation or word on anything people are talking about except a wish to have it done before Christmas which it hasn't been. If it's not done before the next game I'll be very surprised but I do think people taking rumours and making them fact is a little silly.
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https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/latest-on-doncaster-rovers-manager-search-3506620
Here's the article again from last week. I can't see anything yet that suggests Hoden was wrong with his expectation of events.
Make a brew and have a mince pie.
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I read it that the discussion today was just informing the candidates. I'd be surprised if the announcement wasn't tomorrow. Still 2 weeks too late imo though.
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Whoosh!
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It’s unbelievable that a third tier footy club faffs around like they do with appointments, like they are some global, blue chip, white collar, multi billion pound company.
Let's drag in the nearest passer-by and give him the job. That'd be quick and you never know, we might just strike lucky.
Or we could just continue with the cronyism by giving another person connected to the club the job.
That isn't cronyism, at all. We also haven't appointed a permanent manager from within the club since Dave Penney got the job almost 20 years ago.
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Sounds like more lies. Same old same old. Still a non league team off the field.
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We won’t be relegated this year. I can guarantee you that.
And what odds are you offering
100,000,000/1
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It’s unbelievable that a third tier footy club faffs around like they do with appointments, like they are some global, blue chip, white collar, multi billion pound company.
Let's drag in the nearest passer-by and give him the job. That'd be quick and you never know, we might just strike lucky.
Or we could just continue with the cronyism by giving another person connected to the club the job.
That isn't cronyism, at all. We also haven't appointed a permanent manager from within the club since Dave Penney got the job almost 20 years ago.
I was referring to Wellens, an ex player with reasonakdy fresh links to the club and board.
Butler to an extent. When Moore left we should have recruited a manager then. Not someone with previous club links.
And what could be GM.
Once I can accept.
Twice is more than coincidence.
If GM is appointed that seals it.
Familiarity breeds contempt.
Just my opinion.
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Heard rumours that it will be Gary McSheffery getting the job, if so it will be a disappointing appointment imo
COYR
Im wondering whether hes been offered the job & rightly having second thoughts. Hes done a great job with the u18’s & lets be honest theres serious investment needed to rebuild our squad. If i was him i’d stay as he is with the u18’s & wait for a better opportunity to come along.
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It’s unbelievable that a third tier footy club faffs around like they do with appointments, like they are some global, blue chip, white collar, multi billion pound company.
Let's drag in the nearest passer-by and give him the job. That'd be quick and you never know, we might just strike lucky.
Or we could just continue with the cronyism by giving another person connected to the club the job.
That isn't cronyism, at all. We also haven't appointed a permanent manager from within the club since Dave Penney got the job almost 20 years ago.
I was referring to Wellens, an ex player with reasonakdy fresh links to the club and board.
Butler to an extent. When Moore left we should have recruited a manager then. Not someone with previous club links.
And what could be GM.
Once I can accept.
Twice is more than coincidence.
If GM is appointed that seals it.
Familiarity breeds contempt.
Just my opinion.
That's still not cronyism though, is it? It does suggest a tendency to hire people familiar with the club for whatever reason, but still. Many, many clubs do it. Arsenal and Manchester United are two examples in the top flight who have done it recently, Barcelona do it all the time too.
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Liverpool didn't do too badly.
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There’s also a difference between someone already within the club, who has both bought into the ethos and is a known quantity, and an ex player who hasn’t stepped foot on the training ground since the day they left. Former is logic, latter is emotion.
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It’s shown a level of incompetence previously unknown since this manager episode has started. I have no problem with making sure you get the right man, I just thought they might have been a bit worried about being second bottom and giving the new manager time to get on with it.
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Think I’ve said somewhere previously, I will support GM if he gets the job today/tomorrow/next month but I genuinely worry this has an Andy butler escapade written all over it and we will be looking for yet another manager in the not too distant future.
Funny though, those originally scoffing at the proposed ‘dinosaurs’ being linked with the job in the early days of this process are the same ones now stating GM is a cheap option and lacks experience. They literally can’t win.
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Think I’ve said somewhere previously, I will support GM if he gets the job today/tomorrow/next month but I genuinely worry this has an Andy butler escapade written all over it and we will be looking for yet another manager in the not too distant future.
Funny though, those originally scoffing at the proposed ‘dinosaurs’ being linked with the job in the early days of this process are the same ones now stating GM is a cheap option and lacks experience. They literally can’t win.
I don't think that's the case at all. The people on about cheap option and saying GM isn't good enough all wanted a big name or Flynn, even if the big name has done F all for 10 years.
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Think I’ve said somewhere previously, I will support GM if he gets the job today/tomorrow/next month but I genuinely worry this has an Andy butler escapade written all over it and we will be looking for yet another manager in the not too distant future.
Funny though, those originally scoffing at the proposed ‘dinosaurs’ being linked with the job in the early days of this process are the same ones now stating GM is a cheap option and lacks experience. They literally can’t win.
Might be another Andy Butler, though given what we've seen with the dress rehearsal, I don't think so... Or he might be a Dave Penney.
Everyone needs to start somewhere.
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Think I’ve said somewhere previously, I will support GM if he gets the job today/tomorrow/next month but I genuinely worry this has an Andy butler escapade written all over it and we will be looking for yet another manager in the not too distant future.
Funny though, those originally scoffing at the proposed ‘dinosaurs’ being linked with the job in the early days of this process are the same ones now stating GM is a cheap option and lacks experience. They literally can’t win.
I don't think that's the case at all. The people on about cheap option and saying GM isn't good enough all wanted a big name or Flynn, even if the big name has done F all for 10 years.
Its not a cheap option if you're putting a full support structure in place.
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The difference between McSheffrey is that he's run the U23s and now the U18s. He's previously coached professional footballers. Andy Butler was coaching amateurs at a very low level. Also he hasn't just been their teammate.
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Announcement due
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McSheffrey Announced.
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https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2021/december/gary-mcsheffrey-appointed-permanent-doncaster-rovers-manager/
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I’d love to know who the “ex prem “ candidates were. And why they were not chosen .
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I’d love to know who the “ex prem “ candidates were. And why they were not chosen .
'Ex Prem' or 'Premiership experience'?
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Well GM was in the recruitment meeting, so I assume he has approved all targets in the transfer window, I expect we have set the wheels in motion to get them in quickly
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He came out on top of 100+ applicants. What a joke. Cheap appointment, completely predictable and underwhelming as usual. Why waste 3 weeks or so supposedly going through a process.
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I’d love to know who the “ex prem “ candidates were. And why they were not chosen .
'Ex Prem' or 'Premiership experience'?
Never mentioned management experience in prem
Good appointment in my opinion especially with the support staff incoming
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I’d love to know who the “ex prem “ candidates were. And why they were not chosen .
The announcement says GM demonstrated a better understanding of what was required to push the team on at this moment in time. The other managers probably hadn't done their homework.
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On 15th dec it was reported that two ex premier league managers were in a 5 man shortlist for the job. ( Yorkshire post)
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On 15th dec it was reported that two ex premier league managers were in a 5 man shortlist for the job. ( Yorkshire post)
'Reported'
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Moore was an ex PL manager.. was doing ok and got poached. Do we want that again?
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On 15th dec it was reported that two ex premier league managers were in a 5 man shortlist for the job. ( Yorkshire post)
Not the club then?
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Think I’ve said somewhere previously, I will support GM if he gets the job today/tomorrow/next month but I genuinely worry this has an Andy butler escapade written all over it and we will be looking for yet another manager in the not too distant future.
Funny though, those originally scoffing at the proposed ‘dinosaurs’ being linked with the job in the early days of this process are the same ones now stating GM is a cheap option and lacks experience. They literally can’t win.
I don't think that's the case at all. The people on about cheap option and saying GM isn't good enough all wanted a big name or Flynn, even if the big name has done F all for 10 years.
Its not a cheap option if you're putting a full support structure in place.
TBH Martin, how can anyone know whether GM is a cheap option or not when they haven’t a clue how much he is being paid.
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Think I’ve said somewhere previously, I will support GM if he gets the job today/tomorrow/next month but I genuinely worry this has an Andy butler escapade written all over it and we will be looking for yet another manager in the not too distant future.
Funny though, those originally scoffing at the proposed ‘dinosaurs’ being linked with the job in the early days of this process are the same ones now stating GM is a cheap option and lacks experience. They literally can’t win.
I don't think that's the case at all. The people on about cheap option and saying GM isn't good enough all wanted a big name or Flynn, even if the big name has done F all for 10 years.
Its not a cheap option if you're putting a full support structure in place.
TBH Martin, how can anyone know whether GM is a cheap option or not when they haven’t a clue how much he is being paid.
Maybe listen to GM's interview?
He says exactly what I've been saying for weeks.
Nobody questioned RW's salary, nor DM's or any of the previous managers so I fail to see why they should question GM. Is it just because a section of our fan base think its great to level criticism based on no information at all?
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Martin do you really need to ask that question, when we all know the answer
Obviously!!!!
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Think I’ve said somewhere previously, I will support GM if he gets the job today/tomorrow/next month but I genuinely worry this has an Andy butler escapade written all over it and we will be looking for yet another manager in the not too distant future.
Funny though, those originally scoffing at the proposed ‘dinosaurs’ being linked with the job in the early days of this process are the same ones now stating GM is a cheap option and lacks experience. They literally can’t win.
I don't think that's the case at all. The people on about cheap option and saying GM isn't good enough all wanted a big name or Flynn, even if the big name has done F all for 10 years.
Its not a cheap option if you're putting a full support structure in place.
TBH Martin, how can anyone know whether GM is a cheap option or not when they haven’t a clue how much he is being paid.
Maybe listen to GM's interview?
He says exactly what I've been saying for weeks.
Nobody questioned RW's salary, nor DM's or any of the previous managers so I fail to see why they should question GM. Is it just because a section of our fan base think its great to level criticism based on no information at all?
Exactly. Whine and moan for the sake of it.