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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: andyst79 on January 12, 2022, 07:56:30 am
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On the move according to this
https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/football/portsmouth-fc/paul-downings-fratton-park-farewell-as-portsmouth-loan-out-central-defender-pursued-by-doncaster-cheltenham-and-stevenage-3523691
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If they are waiting for his exit to be signed off then unfortunately doesn’t sound like us as we have said we were waiting for clubs to make a decision.
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Not bothered about downing coming back really, would take jakobs and marquis though but this seems unlikely.
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Think it would be a good signing and add some valuable experience.
I hope we are also in for a left back though, i do not want to see Rowe in defence any more.
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Think it would be a good signing and add some valuable experience.
I hope we are also in for a left back though, i do not want to see Rowe in defence any more.
agreed but is there better out there wait and see i suppose
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Not coming here. Just been confirmed on Twitter
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We've got oluwu and Williams fit at the moment who looked decent on Saturday together. Then hopefully Anderson, John next month will give us depth in that area. Not sure it's a top priority, the midfield and attack is the focus surely?
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I said this when we were first linked with him. I couldn’t see is signing a CB when we had 4 on the books
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Downing isn’t what we need.
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Mchsheffrey said at the start that downing wasn’t top of his list
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Ah, but he also said he might not be going for his first choices.
(Tongue in cheek of course).
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I’d rather we signed a solid left back than a centre half.
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This transfer window will show how serious baldwin is.
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I’d rather we signed a solid left back than a centre half.
Absolutely Jonathan
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I’d rather we signed a solid left back than a centre half.
Agreed we need a left back desperately. Don’t like Danny Andrew as a person but what a footballer, his delivery from set pieces was absolutely outstanding! And he’s a left back at a struggling team in this division, we seem a million miles away from the standard, I really don’t envy McSheffrey!
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I think Olowu is a good left back. He has mistakes in his game and they are easier hidden at left back...he's pacy good on the ball and a threat from set pieces and is good in the air. Would love to see a dominant/experienced centre back come in and Olowu as a left back option and cover as CB or added competition to that slot.
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So no Downing street party for his arrival then
Cheltenham are signing anything that moves ..they certainly are at the races as they "March on".. Having a festival of signings.
It makes you wonder where the money is coming from
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This transfer window will show how serious baldwin is.
What does it have to do with Gavin? He doesn’t choose the targets nor does he control the purse strings
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I think Olowu is a good left back. He has mistakes in his game and they are easier hidden at left back...he's pacy good on the ball and a threat from set pieces and is good in the air. Would love to see a dominant/experienced centre back come in and Olowu as a left back option and cover as CB or added competition to that slot.
If Olowu was to be our left back then we would need a centre half. I probably haven’t paid enough attention to notice, but is he left footed?
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It seems Covid is not the issue in Cheltenham!
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I think Olowu is going to develop into a fantastic CB. Leave him there.
Remember when we signed Andy Griffin a few years back? Came in and was class.
I would like to see a LB of similar mould come in, the defence and team could do with an older head in there.
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This transfer window will show how serious baldwin is.
I don't get that. Do you think GB is making the decisions here?
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I’d rather we signed a solid left back than a centre half.
I agree. A L1 average standard left back would free Rowe up and be a big improvement on Horton. You would potentially improve in two positions with one signing.
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I’d rather we signed a solid left back than a centre half.
I agree. A L1 average standard left back would free Rowe up and be a big improvement on Horton. You would potentially improve in two positions with one signing.
Exactly this.
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This transfer window will show how serious baldwin is.
I don't get that. Do you think GB is making the decisions here?
It’s plain from Gavin’s interview that the transfer decisions are GMc’s
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Would agree with the left back observation however, would disagree with Danny Andrew as a benchmark. He was a poor defender first and foremost. Yes, occasionally scoring a spectacular goal but call me old fashioned, but I like full backs to defend first. Similar to Halliday who got up and down ok but was lacking at the ends where it matters, constantly getting beat for pace and not preventing crosses enough.
It's an area of weakness although, Olowu and John could play there but we need a specialist as I fear Horton gets beaten too easily and Rowe is better used further up.
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I’m still unsure of Horton to be honest, he came on leaps and bounds but seems to have stagnated a little bit lately (maybe a reflection on the confidence of the team at the minute). I’m a little concerned at how often he gets ‘megged’.
Definitely one for the future but him playing in front of Tommy didn’t work either, the majority of the game they both looked lost
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I find it really interesting who is making the decisions on transfers. In the meet the owners it sounded like they blamed Richie for the summer signings and then said that from now on it would be more a committee decision. That made me question the manager appointment, maybe an experienced manager wouldn't accept that system.
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We desperately need an organiser at the back though. Normally it is a centre half. Someone to encourage, sort out our line etc and hand the bollockings out when required. We currently don’t have that. You’d think Anderson would be that man but it doesn’t appear so.
Williams isn’t really good enough if you’re honest with yourselves and I doubt John will extend. So I would say we need someone like Downing.
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I think Olowu is a good left back. He has mistakes in his game and they are easier hidden at left back...he's pacy good on the ball and a threat from set pieces and is good in the air. Would love to see a dominant/experienced centre back come in and Olowu as a left back option and cover as CB or added competition to that slot.
Leave him at centre back, we have seen what it can do with Cam John and get a natural left back in.
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Knoyle is a decent player but we don’t have a second choice behind him. Not saying we should not get a left back, but at least now we have Rowe and Horton. On the right it is just Knoyle at present. That’s a big risk area.
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Knoyle is a decent player but we don’t have a second choice behind him. Not saying we should not get a left back, but at least now we have Rowe and Horton. On the right it is just Knoyle at present. That’s a big risk area.
Charlie Seaman
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Like BR said we have Charlie Seaman as cover for RB he may not be the ideal but neither is Horton.
Therefore I can go with a good left sided defender who could play LB. This would allow Tommy into a midfield Role getting further up the pitch or Left wing back if we play 352 or 343. We won’t see Anderson and John until at least February and not early.
Bringing Downing in would have been good but all the three CHs would be predominantly right footed.
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Left back has to be one of the top three priorities for us at the moment.
I'd rank it, in order:
Striker
Holding Mid
Left Back
And then below that:
Winger
Centre Back
Goalkeeper
Not that I'm asking for much like...
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As the week (and the window) heads towards the half way point, you really would hope to be seeing significant signs of activity soon. All we seem to get so far is reasons why certain deals (including some that have been acknowledged as targets) can’t happen. You would hope we aren’t waiting too much longer for clubs to make decisions to release players.
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This transfer window will show how serious baldwin is.
I don't get that. Do you think GB is making the decisions here?
my mistake. This transfer window will show how serious the board are.
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As the week (and the window) heads towards the half way point, you really would hope to be seeing significant signs of activity soon. All we seem to get so far is reasons why certain deals (including some that have been acknowledged as targets) can’t happen. You would hope we aren’t waiting too much longer for clubs to make decisions to release players.
Well have we signed GMC first choice striker or is there still one to come.
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Need a wide player also.
Hiwula is doing nothing and Taylor injured.
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I get the thinking behind signing a left back but personally i think all our efforts should be on scoring goals. It's what we can't do. Our defence isn't great but it's not why we are bottom.
A centre midfielder who makes it harder for us to play through would be a priority ahead of a left back imo. Just let Horton have a run in the team with Rowe ahead of him to help guide him through games. Remember he's had Hiwula in front of him and a different centre half every week to the side that won't have helped his defending.
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Back to Downing, it looks as if he’s off to Rochdale
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We must either not need a centre half or have other players lined up. Rochdale wouldn't be out bidding us you'd think
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Thing is we have 6 centre half’s plus Rowe who can play there in an emergency, granted Anderson and Cam are out at the moment but Tom SHOULD be back in a month
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How far away from fitness is Joe Wright?.
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Joe will be playing for us next season.
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Its full backs we are crying out for, not central defenders.
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We've got oluwu and Williams fit at the moment who looked decent on Saturday together. Then hopefully Anderson, John next month will give us depth in that area. Not sure it's a top priority, the midfield and attack is the focus surely?
Olowu and Williams will get mullered against the sides we have coming up.
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Olowu and Williams will get mullered against the sides we have coming up.
I think Olowu has shown great promise - I personally put him above Williams in our current squad.
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If possible we need a centre back, we don’t keep clean sheets with the players fit. You have to plug it up at the back.
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We must either not need a centre half or have other players lined up. Rochdale wouldn't be out bidding us you'd think
I wouldn't guarantee that.
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Left back has to be one of the top three priorities for us at the moment.
I'd rank it, in order:
Striker
Holding Mid
Left Back
And then below that:
Winger
Centre Back
Goalkeeper
Not that I'm asking for much like...
I'd have a creative winger higher up the list, as you don't score if you don't create chances.
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Personally I don't think we need Downing to add to our crop of centre halves. We don't want to land another with a questionable injury record on contract to solve a short term problem.
As said above, if anything, it's a specialist full back that's more pressing.
Downing will no doubt be looking for a more permanent home so if Rochdale can give him that, then good luck to them.
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As said above, if anything, it's a specialist full back that's more pressing.
Or even a pressing full back.... :whistle:
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That should iron a few of the problems out.
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You guys crease me up!!
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I can see him steaming down the wing...
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Do the names, Murphy Richards and Russell Hobbs need to be put in the Rumour Mill??
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Just heard he’s signed for Corby Town
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I bet his agent trousered a big percentage of the signing on fee.
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Some whoppers on twitter think this means we can’t compete financially with rochdale.
Do they ever have a day off?
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Some whoppers on twitter think this means we can’t compete financially with rochdale.
Do they ever have a day off?
I think it's pretty obvious they don't.
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